Your gripes with CoC II

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I would genuinely like to know whether three out of four gods to soulbind witb was always the plan or there were ideas for seven soulbinds that got paired down to three later.
There were only ever plans for the three. You aren't even planned to meet several of the gods.
 

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I think there were also vague plans for Velun to have a soulbind at one point (since Tobs wrote the wiki's entry and had one listed for him) but that got abandoned. Or maybe that was just a hypothetical, all we know is it's definitely not happening now.
 
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There were only ever plans for the three. You aren't even planned to meet several of the gods.
I see. Thanks.

Yeah it would probably be hard to get jiggy with a tree man or whatever Velun is. So I guess all Mallach wants from us is dicks and/or holes. IG Sorra will not be met either?
 

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Small gripe, I mostly play around it. But it makes me really sad when certain pregnancies just yeet the child away. Like, Rags sends the kid back to the Sailgraves and the Leothran pregnancy has the champion give up the kits to the village. I want to keep my babies near me.
 

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Rags was especially a downer considering the other orcs put their babies in the nursery (and then presumably goes by motherly intuition and/or pure guesswork to figure out which tyke is theirs) but the most detailed orcy romance is all "meh, I fedexed the brat to my ma, don't wanna be held back by that while we're banging!"
 

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Rags was especially a downer considering the other orcs put their babies in the nursery (and then presumably goes by motherly intuition and/or pure guesswork to figure out which tyke is theirs) but the most detailed orcy romance is all "meh, I fedexed the brat to my ma, don't wanna be held back by that while we're banging!"
Kind of surprising in retrospect they didn't just send Ragnild's kids to the nursery, especially since they have a better chance of not turning into murderhobos that way. Although maybe the response to that decision is why every other orcess just sends her kids to the nursery, now that I think about it.
 
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It's weird how there's one instance of gender-specific armor in the game, that being the Tiran Temple's Tiran Nun's Habit and Tiran Vestements. Why is it gender-locked? They have identical stats, but the nun's habit is described as "rather revealing" and has a generally more descriptive description. While both of these are described as fancy and form-fitting, I think it would be better if there was just a choice in which option to take beyond changing your gender right before opening the chest.
Nooooooo! I need a nun outfit for my ambush.
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But yes, I agree. Just create 2 different pieces of outfits with same stats. One revealing and one conceling. So if someone wants to go out as scandalously flamboyant, there.
 
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How about cute clothing for our champion? I don't want to look badass or sexy, I prefer something comfortable and cute, with unique stats. I get it's a smut game but character customization seems important here, too.
 

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1. There's arona scene in the daycare holding "oldest kid". Champion had a couple orc kids but not with her, so the dialogue feels jarring. That said is there other scenes with the other parent in daycare esp if they're party member/locals?

2. Sometimes I wish i can turn off the pop up romance-ish event like with arona and ryn

3. Accidentally locked myself out from rescuing kiyoko and prince philander.....i only play one save file so going through everything again is just too much. I didn't know what I was supposed to do either so I keep returning to kitsune den and the abandoned camp multiple times trying to retrigger it. I think in kiyoko case I declined due not yet preparing my party, and in philander case I checked every options from the beginning so when i got an offer to learn skill I said yes to it

4. Need more masculine masculine men, early on i keep meeting ladies w/ dick or fembois until I met brint.

I just started playing last week and got hooked on the lore + worldbuilding. Can't wait to see more
 

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You can avoid the Carmen Blue Balls scene by just having a bed partner, since I almost always keep having either Ryn or Azzy with me I have only ever seen that scene a single time. Actually didn't know until now that was what triggered it.

Agreed with Masturbation point, but not sure what the training inconsistency refers to. Some training sessions not passing a day? I think they all should so that would be bugs to report on. Otherwise main thing I know of is Zo's training scenes saying that's enough for one day, when really (in current build) you only need a day to pass once you have unlocked a power so that the next button can appear. I tend to just skip over to the Puppers and let time pass for that.
 
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3. Accidentally locked myself out from rescuing kiyoko and prince philander.....
How? Did you not get the necklace? Did you make the wrong choice at the capsite?
i only play one save file so going through everything again is just too much.
Not for nothing but this is exactly why I play multiple save files and sometimes just leave it at a certain point.
4. Need more masculine masculine men, early on i keep meeting ladies w/ dick or fembois until I met brint.
Yeah we've seen a lot of that sentiment on this thread. Just know you're not alone.
 

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You can avoid the Carmen Blue Balls scene by just having a bed partner, since I almost always keep having either Ryn or Azzy with me I have only ever seen that scene a single time. Actually didn't know until now that was what triggered it.

Agreed with Masturbation point, but not sure what the training inconsistency refers to. Some training sessions not passing a day? I think they all should so that would be bugs to report on. Otherwise main thing I know of is Zo's training scenes saying that's enough for one day, when really (in current build) you only need a day to pass once you have unlocked a power so that the next button can appear. I tend to just skip over to the Puppers and let time pass for that.
Yeah, mean outside of that. Carmen claims that it's a "dream", yet neither the Ring of Pure Thought nor turning Dream Events off bypasses that scene.
Yes, alleviating the "Blue Balled" status effect bypasses getting the scene, but at higher Libido the Blue Balled status affect can occur whilst sleeping (so, prior to sleeping, no Blue Balled status effect, then during the sleep the status effect occurs), and causing the scene to occur without any way to avoid it (at least seem to recall that interaction happening before).
Same criticism goes for Viviane's scene when the champion gets the Witch Outfit (or her Halloween scene, as they seem to be the same scene, though the Halloween version of the scene is avoidable with Holiday Events off) - no way to avoid her coming on to the champion whilst they sleep - so effectively her recruitment cannot be done without letting her violate the champion - and it's canon that she does that (and therefore, not a dream, as the Wiki seems to want to imply), because she brings it up when the champion meets her in the forest.
Same criticism with Kasyrra's scene if you try and fight her in the "dream" she overpowers the champion and... so yeah. No way to avoid these things other than "don't try xyz" or "don't interact with abc" or "actually avoid going to region def".

The training inconsistency has already been reported on the CoC2 Bug Reports sub-forum, and has been brought up here before a couple of years ago. It's still in the game, so at this point the developers must be fine with it being in the game, hence just mentioning it as a gripe and not further reporting it as a bug - because doing so seems like it would be a waste of time, well, arguably more of a waste of time.
 
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How? Did you not get the necklace? Did you make the wrong choice at the capsite?
To be fair CoM is fairly hard without a guide, and as for the necklace you can lock yourself out either by choosing [gross] when looking at the painting or just saying no to picking it up.
 

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To be fair CoM is fairly hard without a guide, and as for the necklace you can lock yourself out either by choosing [gross] when looking at the painting or just saying no to picking it up.
Regarding the necklace, I was always pretty sure [Gross] was just the opt-out of Kiyoko's content considering that mural told you everything you needed to know about what her content would be like. Didn't think you could refuse to pick up the necklace and not come back for it though.
 

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Ah, no you're right about the picking it back up part. I always forget that's an option.
 
I think that we could still have an option to tell Karmen to buzz off with her nightly excursions. Consent is in order.
This is why you always keep the good ol' frosthammer under your pillow, and your entire posse of weird nymphomaniac groupies hiding behind the door with cricket bats whenever you go to sleep.

Champions need not pay taxes, whether they be taken from one purse or the other.
 

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-Masturbation immediately resulting in the champion sleeping, and advancing a day (what possible narrative reason?).
Its the advancing a day part that gets me. Correct me if I'm wrong but in the first CoC the champ would pass out but then wake up a few hours later if they took the masturbate action right?

-Training inconsistency.
Could you elaborate and be more clear about what you mean by this? Its pretty hard to know what you mean just from the word "training" seeing as though there are quite a few scenes in the game that would fall under that term.

-Carmen's blue balls scene (no way to avoid).
This is just factually untrue. I literally didn't even know about this scene until I specifically made a new character that I was trying to play as celibate for a joke. In a game where (almost) everyone you talk to is willing to be dicked down or dick you down you really have to go out of your way on purpose to not be getting any action. Also doesn't it technically count as a dream scene? There is an option to turn those off entirely in the menu.
 
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Its the advancing a day part that gets me. Correct me if I'm wrong but in the first CoC the champ would pass out but then wake up a few hours later if they took the masturbate action right?


Could you elaborate and be more clear about what you mean by this? Its pretty hard to know what you mean just from the word "training" seeing as though there are quite a few scenes in the game that would fall under that term.


This is just factually untrue. I literally didn't even know about this scene until I specifically made a new character that I was trying to play as celibate for a joke. In a game where (almost) everyone you talk to is willing to be dicked down or dick you down you really have to go out of your way on purpose to not be getting any action. Also doesn't it technically count as a dream scene? There is an option to turn those off entirely in the menu.

A few of those were answered above, like it not being a dream sequence (it will happen with them turned off), same as with Viv's milking scene.

But yes, in COC1 the time was just advanced a few hours after the masturbation. That seems a much better choice overall, even if it's something like 3 hours. And for the record I have no idea how Champ can have orgies and just get up and walk away after multiple orgasms, but has to take a nap however long after being visited by Ms Hand and her five daughters. I'm going to attribute it to the Champ's sex prowess just being that freaking good and it causing some sort of positive feedback loop of some kind that the universe just can't deal with.
 
So speaketh the Antler, so it shall be.
Careful now, my ego is already approaching critical mass.
I'm going to attribute it to the Champ's sex prowess just being that freaking good and it causing some sort of positive feedback loop of some kind that the universe just can't deal with.
I thought this just went without saying. It's also why everyone and their cousin is thirsting for the champ clamp, they're a sexual eldritch abomination that lesser minds are drawn to.

This is the reason there is no ascension ending, they're already a force beyond mortal comprehension that is only kept in check because their very nature has them focused solely on the procurement of more secks rather then pondering on things long enough to realize they're pretty much God.

It's also why Mallach will not soul bind champ under any circumstance. Forget the whole 'Mallach does not do soulbinds', it's actually because their fields of influence overlap far too much, and a spiritual connection would result in the stronger of the two involuntarily assimilating the other into their being. cat god knows better then to pick that battle.
 

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A few of those were answered above, like it not being a dream sequence (it will happen with them turned off), same as with Viv's milking scene.

But yes, in COC1 the time was just advanced a few hours after the masturbation. That seems a much better choice overall, even if it's something like 3 hours. And for the record I have no idea how Champ can have orgies and just get up and walk away after multiple orgasms, but has to take a nap however long after being visited by Ms Hand and her five daughters. I'm going to attribute it to the Champ's sex prowess just being that freaking good and it causing some sort of positive feedback loop of some kind that the universe just can't deal with.

We just need more masturbation options:

  • Cheeky little wank: into the next quiet corner, put Cait's boobs on the mind player, 5 minutes, done
  • Proper Five vs. Johnny: An elegant game from a more civilized age. Take an hour or two, browse your reference material, take your time, relax.
  • The deluxe wankathon: Clsoe yourself in, start organizing your wank bank, edge yourself ever closer but stop short for hours on end until it's time to play fireman and dancer and cum till you fall unconscious.
 

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It's also why Mallach will not soul bind champ under any circumstance. Forget the whole 'Mallach does not do soulbinds', it's actually because their fields of influence overlap far too much, and a spiritual connection would result in the stronger of the two involuntarily assimilating the other into their being. cat god knows better then to pick that battle.
This has been my head-canon for a grip so I'm glad someone else came to the same conclusion as me lol
 

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More likely, it's that Mallach's (apparently) favoured people (Catfolk) are already available as a playable race and don't have any special abilities or magic spells. Ditto Sorra. If you want to be remade in Sorra's image, just stock up on Golden Harpy Eggs. Velun would actually be interesting to see, but alas.
 
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How? Did you not get the necklace? Did you make the wrong choice at the capsite?

Not for nothing but this is exactly why I play multiple save files and sometimes just leave it at a certain point.

Yeah we've seen a lot of that sentiment on this thread. Just know you're not alone.
When i brought the necklace to the matriarch I forgot what I picked and then the item disappeared. Maybe that's the wrong part. Altho since I strictly play vag!champion idk how to rescue kiyoko.

I ended up playing new save file just to check brint breaking champion's virginity scene (it was so good and worth the hassle). There are a couple non minotaur npc I'm interested in bedding, but most of them are only found in late game. I'm collecting different races in the nursery so

At least in new save point I saved the prince and princess but it seems he can't get champion pregnant. Aw.
 

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When i brought the necklace to the matriarch I forgot what I picked and then the item disappeared. Maybe that's the wrong part. Altho since I strictly play vag!champion idk how to rescue kiyoko.

I ended up playing new save file just to check brint breaking champion's virginity scene (it was so good and worth the hassle). There are a couple non minotaur npc I'm interested in bedding, but most of them are only found in late game. I'm collecting different races in the nursery so

At least in new save point I saved the prince and princess but it seems he can't get champion pregnant. Aw.
You need to at least have a bit of a relationship with Kiyoko I think. Rescuing her requires having at least 4 kids with her, including Kinu. You can get around being a herm by getting a special piercing from Evergreen that makes a glowlight dick grow from your clit, which also lets you knock up Kiyoko.
 

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Maybe that's just to meet with Komari and keep the amulet. Because I remember specifically being told by Keros he needed at least 4 kids to free Kiyoko from the Astral Plane.
 

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Maybe that's just to meet with Komari and keep the amulet. Because I remember specifically being told by Keros he needed at least 4 kids to free Kiyoko from the Astral Plane.
you are horribly misremembering that scene because Keros doesn't even mention that you would get her pregnant. All he says is that she needs your essence to create a physical body for her.
 
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