Your gripes with CoC II

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Ria Brew

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I like listening to accents, it's kinda soothing but it's really hard for me to read when people try to write them which is why I don't engage much with the sisters. I feel l have to reread everything to make sure I understood it. Nothing against em otherwise, just me being bad at reading.

And yeah Lia is pretty inoffensive in terms of written portrayal. Not too hard to read her dialogue.
 

War Demon

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To be honest I just did the list just to see who all of you would be in your list. I didn't think it would be such a conversation starter. Hell of it makes it easier you can list them in any order.
 

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My electricity went out before I could finish a serious comment that I took my time with. How do I access my drafts? I saved it multiple times. :|
 

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"needs humbling" list is Tollus, in both impersonal and personal contexts. Then again this seems to be for interactable NPC's
There is just one thing I would like to add to that. That being you like fight Tollus like 3 times, and easily kick and humble his bald headed ass everytime. So that's why I left him out plus we'll probably be kicking his ass again somewhere down the line.

As for not adding Kas I'm doing the romance angle. Also I've been to Kasyrra dream palace she's not so bad there. You actually talk to her, there's dialogue with Kas, and then when you discover the dungeon in the dream palace. Kas let's you bound her up and your way with her, that why I didn't include Kasyrra.

But yeah anyway who would guys pick. You know mine and you know why.
 

A1teros

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As for not adding Kas I'm doing the romance angle. Also I've been to Kasyrra dream palace she's not so bad there. You actually talk to her, there's dialogue with Kas, and then when you discover the dungeon in the dream palace. Kas let's you bound her up and your way with her, that why I didn't include Kasyrra.
I'm doing the romance route too actually, the reason I mention her is because of her attitude towards the Marches, she thinks they're primitives and stepping stones on her way to becoming a god or whatever so she can do whatever to them. Her attitude towards Champ though is probably pretty favorable, still don't know enough about her motives to make a judgement. It'd be nice if she actually did love Champ but we still don't know what she needs their soul for. But regardless of the reason, it still falls into "it's in my rights to decide what you do" territory.
 

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I'm doing the romance route too actually, the reason I mention her is because of her attitude towards the Marches, she thinks they're primitives and stepping stones on her way to becoming a god or whatever so she can do whatever to them. Her attitude towards Champ though is probably pretty favorable, still don't know enough about her motives to make a judgement. It'd be nice if she actually did love Champ but we still don't know what she needs their soul for. But regardless of the reason, it still falls into "it's in my rights to decide what you do" territory.
Yeah I get ya but at the same time that's kinda what the whole game is about. The Champ Vs. Kas for the fate of the world.

I just thought of a fun scenario with The Champ, Kasyrra, and Tollus. All end up in like a triple threat, but seeing how both The Champ and Kas can't stand Tollus. But can tolerate each other, it would be extremely funny if The Champ, And Kas just give each other a look.

A look that translates into "hey want beat the shit out of the balled headed turd. Before we fight each other?" following that "Oh so much". I think that would be funny don't know about anyone else.
 
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Melancholy Man

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Final gripe of the night and week, at least for me. So I'm watching Vikings for some R&R before going back to a study sesh and it hit me while I'm watching the new session that intros Ragnar kids and their personalities - I don't like Mitra and why I'm not fond of Dragon Daughter (they're moe but I don't care if you're cute) is not because they don't look like us but they don't share any traits with us. Ragnar's kids each share an aspect of him; his intelligence, his bravery, his arrogance, his ambition, his will to survive, his ruthlessness, and those traits form a core part of both their character flaws and virtues. TOBs is low-key ahead of everyone: child Kinu has that core PC trait of learning quickly and then letting her ability go to her head, causing her to feel the need to be perfect, is Chef's Kiss
 

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I'm doing the romance route too actually, the reason I mention her is because of her attitude towards the Marches, she thinks they're primitives and stepping stones on her way to becoming a god or whatever so she can do whatever to them. Her attitude towards Champ though is probably pretty favorable, still don't know enough about her motives to make a judgement. It'd be nice if she actually did love Champ but we still don't know what she needs their soul for. But regardless of the reason, it still falls into "it's in my rights to decide what you do" territory.
Thing is, the Marches are primitive, being currently stuck in sort of a fantasy Post-Apocalypse scenario due to the events of the Godswar. If Kasyrra had shown up at the time of Old Belhar it would have been a different song (along with IMO a "Hey wait a bit, this looks familiar..." as I'm by now reasonably sure the original plane-hopping Sorcerer's city came from Belhar before crashing into Mareth), but the Marches by now are at a Bronze Age practically, not really having rediscovered how to forge steel weapons, and she's got fucking magitech and knows what electricity is.

It's a bit of an aside that I have no idea how the fuck she even knows those things considering Mareth in COC1 was not exactly a shining beacon of civilization and I didn't really feel Lethice's palacce was much more either (but then again, that was a allegedly a bit of rush job compared to what it could have been), but at least going by Kasyrra's logic as presented in this game, she's literally an alien conqueror with superior technology come to subjugate the primitives.
 

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We actually do: she wants to use it to make her own, biological children that aren't imps, preferably without losing her demonhood in the process.
I know that this is long while way yet and assuming Kasyrras plan works, but does anyone know if this will be ingame event or something reserved for epilogue?
 

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I know that this is long while way yet and assuming Kasyrras plan works, but does anyone know if this will be ingame event or something reserved for epilogue?
Probably epilogue. That seems like a BIG deal and is the BBEG's endgame. Itd be weird to resolve that at any point that isn't the ending of the game.
 

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Here's my new latest Gripe pretty small I think. But some Character names being harder to say then others.

Like for example "Gweyr" how do pronounce that also "Ailah"? They should put a pronunciation in the Wiki under each name.
 

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Kingu2

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placental mass in the eggshell, perhaps
No I get why it's there. When drawing humanoids the bellybutton is one of those things that we know should be there without ever thinking about why. feel free to pay it no mind, it's really not worth thiking about.
 

TheShepard256

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Well... the thing about belly buttons is that they come from having an umbilical cord, right? If so, that would imply the egg-laying races have a similar prenatal development process to the live-birthing races, which makes sense given that they're naturally capable of breeding with each other to produce fertile offspring and are thus the same species. My head-canon (and this applies to TiTS as well) is that pregnancies for egg-laying races goes mostly the same as for live-birthing races, only near the end, the placental fluids become much more nutrient-dense (acting as the equivalent of a yolk), the placenta calcifies (to form an eggshell-like structure) and the umbilical cord switches from using the mother's bloodstream to using the now nutrient-dense placental fluids.
 

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Is it just me or do the kill options feel out of place? I don't want to sound ungrateful because getting to do some edgy stuff every once in a while is nice but they never feel like they have the necessary build-up for it or justification.
 

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Is it just me or do the kill options feel out of place? I don't want to sound ungrateful because getting to do some edgy stuff every once in a while is nice but they never feel like they have the necessary build-up for it or justification.
Yeah it'd be one thing if they were just for the imps considering they're just little rape machines, but not so much the rest. It's what causes the murderboners to come about from time to time here.
 

Sacremas

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I tbh feel way more justified to kill Arona than I ever do to kill Sandre and Caera. Both are trying to assault and rape me, but only one of those are keeping a huge amount of slaves. S&C don't seem more evil than the Mino miners or Hobgoblins, so executing them just seem weird even for my paladin type. I would on the other hand appreciate an option to scare S&C so much they just leaves my characters that aren't interested in them alone, rather than have to outright kill them.
 

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Let's see, KILLING!
Alyssa: Justified
Alraune: Not really, unless you don't ask her about her story.
Corrupted centaurs: Justified
Behemoth: Justified
Sandre and Caera: Not really
Imps: Text book definition of justified
Amalgam/Corrupted Dryad: Mercy killings
(I spare them, hoping they get help)
Wyld tree: Justified.
Elves in Dracia: Not really.
Gytha/Dragon Knight: Not really
Psion: Not really

I think I got them all, but if I missed a K event, let me know.
 

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Melancholy Man

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Yeah, like with the Elves in Rynquest, it's not like they are an honor-bound culture like in Game of Thrones or Vikings, so why am I executing them? It can't just be about them being tainted because it has long been established that tainted folks can be reasoned with and be made useful in some way. Or in the mushroom quest where I think the best example of missed potential in making ppl agonize over killing someone and whether it's mercy is the Mushroom Trio lady. The situation around her should have played up a bit more; imagine having your thoughts invaded constantly if you try to think you'd have no privacy in your own mind. Not to mention the nerve pain and horny.
 
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Let's see, KILLING!
Alyssa: Justified
Alraune: Not really, unless you don't ask her about her story.
Corrupted centaurs: Justified
Behemoth: Justified
Sandre and Caera: Not really
Imps: Text book definition of justified
Amalgam/Corrupted Dryad: Mercy killings
(I spare them, hoping they get help)
Wyld tree: Justified.
Elves in Dracia: Not really.
Gytha/Dragon Knight: Not really
Psion: Not really

I think I got them all, but if I missed a K event, let me know.
I have Amalgam in my wayfort, have to admit I kinda forgotten where she came from.
I only usually kill Imps and the Behemoth. Not to bothered about murder in a porn game.
Who is Psion?
 

War Demon

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Just a quick question is The Storm Glaive worth fighting the Harpies for, or should I bring Agni with me.

I love that her nick name is is the same as a character from them video game "SMITE". Both of them use fire it's I just think that's great. If anyone here has played "SMITE" you'll know who I'm talking about.
 
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