Really close. Lumia's already under review.
The whole shebang I believe. Lumiaquest. Lumian keep. Lumia as an NPC. A bunch of valkyries...
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The whole shebang I believe. Lumiaquest. Lumian keep. Lumia as an NPC. A bunch of valkyries...
Well, I ask because I don't know what the exact production order is, or what stuff is getting prioritised by who. So far, all I really know about the main thing I'm anticipating is "It's huge and therefore won't be available for a while yet", so just makin' wild stabs in the dark.
Well, that's neat. I don't know if my current character is gonna have much use for Lumian worship, though I'm definitely curious to see more Gods make a bid.
The CoC2 Bug Reports sub-forum.
There are bugs still from April, May and June of 2021 that haven't even been addressed (as in a reply), let alone fixed.
There is such a lack of communication going on from the CoC2 dev team currently with regards to bug reports that it seriously makes the in-game message of "Editing by YOU" look like it's irony.
It almost seems like a bug has to quite literally be game-breaking for it to be addressed. Otherwise, it seems like the onus is on the player who reported the bug to then check the bug after each patch, instead of it being the devs' responsibility (assuming they want to keep their game bug free).
Would hope there would be more communication / feedback, and bug reports would be checked from the oldest to the newest (and more frequently at that, to avoid such a backlog), instead of always having it be the newest first. Otherwise the cycle of having bug reports slip through the cracks will always persist.
There are bugs still from April, May and June of 2021 that haven't even been addressed (as in a reply), let alone fixed.
There is such a lack of communication going on from the CoC2 dev team currently with regards to bug reports that it seriously makes the in-game message of "Editing by YOU" look like it's irony.
It almost seems like a bug has to quite literally be game-breaking for it to be addressed. Otherwise, it seems like the onus is on the player who reported the bug to then check the bug after each patch, instead of it being the devs' responsibility (assuming they want to keep their game bug free).
Would hope there would be more communication / feedback, and bug reports would be checked from the oldest to the newest (and more frequently at that, to avoid such a backlog), instead of always having it be the newest first. Otherwise the cycle of having bug reports slip through the cracks will always persist.
While I feel that the lack of attention to older more minor bugs is because they're trying to focus on new content (the lack of which often garners more complaints than lack of bugfixes), it would be nice to have a little more feedback on bugs that are being addressed. The team working on TiTS is superb in this regard; they not only reply to a bug thread with a brief "fixed in next release" post, but actually move the thread to a specific "Fixed" subforum.
EDIT: I stand partially corrected. There is a "Fixed" subforum here, but it's fallen into disuse. Looks like it hasn't been used since June.
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Dunno if this has been brought up before, but I'd really like a way to acquire the High Ground quest without having to bring Gweyr back. I can't be the only one uncomfortable with bring someone with her history to come live in the nursery where my kids are. The High Ground then constantly referencing a scene whose characters include an insane child murder doesn't really help matters.
Yeah, that’s definitely a noticeable issue. Just to give an example from my own experience, there are several bugs/errors with the demon transformatives that have been reported through multiple threads by myself and others since their release, and they’re still showing the same issues after every single patch.
Hmm, thanks for the reply, although I do somewhat disagree with one of your points, which I'll mention below.
So, not sure what the implication was with regards to "the lack of attention to older more minor bugs".
If that's to say that all of the older bug reports are about "minor bugs", then I disagree, because that seems like a sweeping generalization. There is definitely at least one that should fit in the "major bug" category - which I won't link here, because I'd like to motivate the devs to actually have a look at the older bug reports.
If that's not supposed be a generalization that all the older bug reports are "minor bugs", then the statement itself still seems pretty dismissive of the older bug reports, as though the devs are justified in ignoring the older bug reports, and should continue to do so. Which I also disagree with, because that essentially seems to imply that one must report bugs without any expectations of it ever being addressed, let alone fixed, and the basis for that is that the devs just didn't go through the bug reports for a few months (for whatever reason). Kind of seems like a slap in the face to players' / users' efforts to report potential issues they find, and trying to improve the game (something you'd think the devs would also want).
Adding more content to the game is important, but that's not to say that bug reports can completely be ignored. Without fixing the potential bugs in the new content, it would possibly not be accessible (or at least one aspect from it might possibly not be accessible), no? So, if it's fine to fix the bugs for newer content, then why is it not okay to fix the bugs that might possibly appear in older content?
This doesn't seem like it would be an issue if the devs were better at fixing the bugs in a more timely manner.
Oh, and also, the Fixed sub-forum for CoC2 was last used in July 2022, not in June.
Would hope the devs, or more specifically Savin, the project's lead, would reply to my original post - as that could possibly help with some clarity on the matter.
As it stands right now, it just seems as though this is something they'd rather not address, in any capacity.
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Wsan using "god" as an exclamation in his writing when monotheism is obviously incorrect in the setting; it should be "gods".
Thanks for that. Good to stay informed.That's why we're telling you!
Back to griping for a moment tho, I was briefly reminded earlier about what Tollus' endgame was after replaying from an earlier save with another character, and I still have issues with this guy and how petty his motives are. I mean on the face of it, it's fine, but combine that with limited appearances and a general lack of personality and he feels very flat and dull as an antagonist.
And I mean, I would be okay with that if he was just a one-shot quest boss, or if summoning Kasyrra led to him dying or being turned into a demon because then at least this would make sense. But he's technically the secondary main antagonist of the story behind Kasyrra herself, and a personal antagonist to Cait because he sacrificed her sister to summon Kas and Quinn because the latter used to be in his cult. It just sucks that this guy is so utterly lame.
In all honesty, I used to follow this game with each update, but I stopped after they removed Berwyn as a party member as he was one of my favorite companions. You'd think someone else would be willing to step up and take over writing duties.
It's been explained a dozen fucking time's why they didn't do that.
For some reason I got stuck on a way to open this comment. Guess because it's a continuation of the sentiments I've expressed already, but in any case.
Anyway, I suppose I'm trying to say that as far as Alissa goes, she's a horrible person, an abuser of multiple kinds, she hurt our darling Etheryn and reduced her to a beaten-dog toy, so when I say I enjoy fighting her I don't mean I actually like her, and while I'm not exactly rooting for a murder sim level of gore when we finally track her down, I'm also not gonna shed any tears if the only options to deal with her are Kill Her, Let Ryn Kill or Jail Her. She's more than earned it.
But, that's what makes her a well-written antagonist. She's a horrible person, but also a horrible person that most people probably understand. Not just as a sexual abuser, but also an abusive older sibling who picks on their little brothers and sisters, that one idiot at work who's protected from consequences and has a job as a manager just because their mom or dad has a controlling stake in the company and doesn't want to let them be fired, that rich bitch who thinks being born to wealth and priviledge makes her better than you, any smug racist or -ist someone could meet on the street. These things make her more plausible as an existing person and, combined with her lengthy rapsheet, adds catharsis to beating her up. I'm sure finally fighting her will be a lot of fun.
She's also got a lot more leeway than Tollus in that while she's a bad guy, she's not the bad guy; in fact, Kasyrra is quite open about the fact she sees Alissa as nothing but a toy, one she's no longer interested in playing with. That means she doesn't need to make frequent appearances or be anything more than Etheryn's end goal, so it's not necessary for her to have a complex personality or goals.
Tollus doesn't have that leeway because like I said, he is a major antagonist, one with a personal connection to two of our party members. And yet his reasons for founding (?) the cult and working to undermine the baroness... is because he thinks living through the Godswar makes him entitled to a title and riches? (I think that's what he wants. I can't go look it up again at the moment.) This is so laughable that even the characters seem kinda bitter about how lame his motives are.
I think it's fixable though. The writers just need to give him more of a personality than "Mwahahahaha I'm so evil!" next time we see him, offer some insight on how he recruits people into the cult, maybe let us see what sorts of things he's up to besides being Kasyrra's willing servant. The cult itself is the same.
Anyway, I suppose I'm trying to say that as far as Alissa goes, she's a horrible person, an abuser of multiple kinds, she hurt our darling Etheryn and reduced her to a beaten-dog toy, so when I say I enjoy fighting her I don't mean I actually like her, and while I'm not exactly rooting for a murder sim level of gore when we finally track her down, I'm also not gonna shed any tears if the only options to deal with her are Kill Her, Let Ryn Kill or Jail Her. She's more than earned it.
But, that's what makes her a well-written antagonist. She's a horrible person, but also a horrible person that most people probably understand. Not just as a sexual abuser, but also an abusive older sibling who picks on their little brothers and sisters, that one idiot at work who's protected from consequences and has a job as a manager just because their mom or dad has a controlling stake in the company and doesn't want to let them be fired, that rich bitch who thinks being born to wealth and priviledge makes her better than you, any smug racist or -ist someone could meet on the street. These things make her more plausible as an existing person and, combined with her lengthy rapsheet, adds catharsis to beating her up. I'm sure finally fighting her will be a lot of fun.
She's also got a lot more leeway than Tollus in that while she's a bad guy, she's not the bad guy; in fact, Kasyrra is quite open about the fact she sees Alissa as nothing but a toy, one she's no longer interested in playing with. That means she doesn't need to make frequent appearances or be anything more than Etheryn's end goal, so it's not necessary for her to have a complex personality or goals.
Tollus doesn't have that leeway because like I said, he is a major antagonist, one with a personal connection to two of our party members. And yet his reasons for founding (?) the cult and working to undermine the baroness... is because he thinks living through the Godswar makes him entitled to a title and riches? (I think that's what he wants. I can't go look it up again at the moment.) This is so laughable that even the characters seem kinda bitter about how lame his motives are.
I think it's fixable though. The writers just need to give him more of a personality than "Mwahahahaha I'm so evil!" next time we see him, offer some insight on how he recruits people into the cult, maybe let us see what sorts of things he's up to besides being Kasyrra's willing servant. The cult itself is the same.
As for Alissa: I want Arona to go through with her threat to punt her head into the sun. A lava lake would do in a pinch.
As for Tollus: It was stated that he's the descendant of the noble who used to rule the land the baroness Carmen now owns. His ancestor was a coward who ran away when the war started and was subsequently stripped of his title, which went to Carmen and her... biological issues mean that she holds it to this day.
Tollus feels entitled to the land because he is the progeny of its former ruler and he's convinced himself that his ancestor was tricked somehow, making him the legal air by right. He's also not really Kasyrra's willing servant. He was fine so long as she was just a nebulous evil force giving him power but he hates actually having to share the spotlight with her. Now that she's actually in Savarra the majority of the cult listens to her instead of him and he loathes it. That's why he's planning to overthrow her and imprison her in a magical crystal. He's a piece of work alright.
Here there be SPOILERS.
We can kill her, we can keep her alive.
When left up to Ryn, Low Conf Ryn squeaks and ends up killing her. High Conf Ryn jails her.
Arona's alternative results in a loud CRUNCH.
When left up to Ryn, Low Conf Ryn squeaks and ends up killing her. High Conf Ryn jails her.
Arona's alternative results in a loud CRUNCH.
And people wonder why I keep Ryn at low confidence. She is squeamish, she is adorable and she is incompetent. All great qualities.
Also -- yes! -- a threesome can happen.
Also -- yes! -- a threesome can happen.
to be honest, yeah squeamish and adorable are great, but its the execution of keeping her low confidence that makes one go "oh no" since you have to be horrible to her, if there was a low confidence ryn where you are also nice to her that sort of content may be of interest to people that like crybabies but don't want to be the worst person in the game
Oh, I get that.
In same wain as you, I would like to be able to be nice to Ryns without rising her confidence. For there to be a way for us to lock her at certain range so that you can be as nice to her as you want yet she will still stay her same, shy, submissive self.
Maybe after completing her quest, she stays locked at the range you she was when entering. If a player kept Ryn subby/shy at that point into the story, I think it is fair to assume that they not care about her or want her that way.
Or even sooner than that so that you could indulge yourself in your subby princess to your hearts content.
Hope it gets added because I do not like the feeling of getting punished for being nice to my sub.
Yeah, that's what I was going for. Though I wrote that comment at 1 in the morning at a point when I couldn't look it up in the game, so that's my excuse.
But, the main reason I bring this up is because if every antagonist was written as flatly as Tollus I wouldn't care, but they're not. I'd just chalk it up as part of the fact this is a PORN game. Why complain that a PORN game is not Game of Thrones-tier writing? But of course that's not the case. Kasyrra herself is very deliberately written as a contrast to Lethice from CoC1, who was herself frequently criticised for being a generic and uninvolved main antagonist, by having an actual personality, clear and understandable motives and potentially a personal relationship with the Champion and most of the minor antagonists like the Alraune, Captain Kae'lyn, Chieftan Taldahs and Queen Nyzerrah also have understandable motives, and can be summed up with the following quote from Henry Fonda in 12 Angry Men: "They're just people! People make mistakes!" Taldahs was trying to make a world where his daughter would be safe, the Alraune seems to be just following her instincts, Queen Nyzeerah was beaten in combat and wanted to sort out her hive's honey shortage, and so on.
By contrast, the cult itself just seems very flat, and most don't seem to have a personality of any kind beyond "I'm so horny, lol!" Which, fine okay, but at this point I'm ready to see the back of them unless there are plans for a deeper explanation of how they came to be formed.
So this is not official but you can download save files, edit the values inside and load them. I've done it sometimes to get around money demands. You could edit her confidence down to 0 or whatever any time it gets too high if you want to experience the nice sex scenes.
save editing is so annoying tho, I hate that pop up
JavaScript:
//Will return Etheryn's confidence.
etheryn.confidence();
//Lets assume Etheryn's confidence is at 0 and one wants to increase it to 100.
etheryn.confidence(100);
//Now lets assume one wants to view low confidence Etheryn's scenes
//It will thus be minus whatever etheryn.confidence(); returns
etheryn.confidence();
//returns 100 as was inputted earlier
//So now do etheryn.confidence(-100); to subtract that 100 from the confidence.
etheryn.confidence(-100);
//returns 0
//Just subtract the amount that you get when you call etheryn.confidence(); in the brackets
//So, etheryn.confidence(); returns value -> etheryn.confidence(minusReturnedValue); -> 0 confidence EtherynNo save editing required, purely through the console (so no annoying pop-up). Just make sure to save to file before attempting, in case anything goes wrong.
So here's a gripe I have about CoC2, and I'm probably the only one who's enough of a grammar nazi to really care.
To quote Princess Bride: You keep using that word. I don't think it means what you think it means.
And that word is gloaming.
As in "left a gloaming cut in his wake."
Gloaming is not an adjective, it's a noun. It means "twilight" or "dusk", thus its use here makes no sense. I mean, I don't know, unless you were going for dusk = red or something like that? But that's really a stretch in my view.
To quote Princess Bride: You keep using that word. I don't think it means what you think it means.
And that word is gloaming.
As in "left a gloaming cut in his wake."
Gloaming is not an adjective, it's a noun. It means "twilight" or "dusk", thus its use here makes no sense. I mean, I don't know, unless you were going for dusk = red or something like that? But that's really a stretch in my view.
My thoughts on Berwyn being removed as a companion aside, I think it's annoying that after you complete his quest chain he also loses half his lewd scenes
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I've not finished the corrupted lupines quest, but it's odd that we can't kill them, especially given their taunts that they'll hound us until they can capture us. Is the dividing line between them and the centaurs that they say words to us first, however hostile? But we saw in Ahmri quest that the corrupted centaurs can talk so I doubt that's it.
You know, my autocorrect does not recognize gloaming as a word at all and instead changed it to gleaming, which is an adjective. Maybe that's the reason.
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