Your gripes with CoC II

[Joey75421]

The Observer's writing needs a lot more quality control, Their work is rife with gems like this from them trying to use fancy words and having no idea what they mean.

Given the context I highly doubt she's growing depressed or sad from her gift. It'd be more accurate to say she'd be growing increasingly pensive or contemplative. And that's only one example, there are many, many others.

That's not a very good example. Such a gift likely brought up memories of the past when she was ostracized and bullied for her preferences. So perhaps you should further examine something before trying to bring up that the author had "no idea what they mean." The word is well known and I'm sure The Observer knew exactly what direction he wanted it to go in, rather than it being some sort of mistake like you are implying.

 

[Kesil]

I have noticed that there's at least one writer which seems to favour what would seem as good titles for smutty post rock albums, what with "undulating ripples feeding through the overwrought tactile resolution" or love juices sizzling and imbuing manhoods with slavering rutting desire.

 

[Naas]

That's not a very good example. Such a gift likely brought up memories of the past when she was ostracized and bullied for her preferences. So perhaps you should further examine something before trying to bring up that the author had "no idea what they mean." The word is well known and I'm sure The Observer knew exactly what direction he wanted it to go in, rather than it being some sort of mistake like you are implying.

I took that into consideration with that and other examples, it's still the wrong usage and I say that as someone who writes and edits semi-professionally. It's definitely a mistake based on the surrounding prose to that particular line and typical language usage of the word melancholy. If she were to grow melancholic (correct usage in that particular instance if they absolutely had to use melancholy) it would be momentary due to the mood. Due to the usage of increasingly in the sentence and from the surrounding text having her grow increasingly pensive or reflective makes far more contextual sense. And there's other examples littered throughout their writing of the same kind of contextual usage mistakes.

Hence I picked that specific example as the two sentence halves don't fit each other and clash. As without having to post too much of the scene for people to see as a potential spoiler it works as a good showcase. It throws the pacing of their writing off when honestly simpler writing would be more fitting and carry more weight to it.
For example, perhaps something along the lines of this:

As Rags considers herself in the mirror, her smile fades for a moment. Her eyes flashing with sadness before her fingertips find the fabric of her sundress. Her expression softening again after a moment as her fingers softly trace over her curves.

Uses more common language, and while admittedly longer would flow better in the scene. Whilst also better hinting at her past trauma without shattering immersion due to sentence issues, wrong word form and other issues.

Berwyn is an exception because he was a companion. Companions are required to have constant support, and he had a questline that was left dangling, so the fact that his original writer was gone meant that either some other writer was going to be required to take him up and fully support him, or that he had to be removed from being a companion. I believed that it would be the full support, but it seems to have been the latter. They didn't want to force someone to write two companions, and it seems that nobody who was eligible for having a companion wanted to take him as one, so, he was removed from the companions.

Got to admit his companion support being pulled surprised me. Personally I'd have left his companion support in there and moved a key item needed for the main quest into his quest line that player's have to recover. That way he could have organically lost companion support following quest events and would effectively be an Act I only companion, until such a time as support is added back.

 

[wery12345]

My guy your wrong in both departments.

 

[Treacherous_Usurper]

The puzzle instructions in the dungeon where you fight Vacia are ambiguous.
Depending on how you interpret them there's at minimum two, at maximum 6-8 valid solutions, but the game only accepts one.

I know because I wrote a python script that checks all possible permutations.

 

[Naas]

My guy your wrong in both departments.

I get paid to do this.... It's even more evident in Kohaku's V scene, there's words in there that most adults of normal intelligence won't know at a glance and using them serves no purpose other than to flex and confuse people.

 

[CitrusWolf]

That's not a very good example. Such a gift likely brought up memories of the past when she was ostracized and bullied for her preferences. So perhaps you should further examine something before trying to bring up that the author had "no idea what they mean." The word is well known and I'm sure The Observer knew exactly what direction he wanted it to go in, rather than it being some sort of mistake like you are implying.

okay so this is pretty much wrong, while that may be the sentiment, "increasingly melancholy" is plainly miswritten, "increasingly melancholic" would be the correct way to write it

 

[CuteBruiser]

I recently tried the "selling your soul for fluffy tail" route, and I found myself wishing that the world was just a bit more responsive to such a momentous choice.

I really loved the scenes immediately surrounding the transformation, but I had been hoping to see more initial reactions from NPCs (particularly around the Den) to the champ's change. Yes, their dialogue changes to be more polite, but it's all business-as-usual otherwise.

A few more scenes showing the champ getting used to their new body/reality would have been fun, too. Even some sort of summary/montage would have helped to bridge the gap.

It's also a bit strange that nobody outside the Den reacts in any way to the champ's change. (Aren't kitsune supposed to be discriminated against?) ...But I fully understand how much work this would take to implement.

 

[The Observer]

had been hoping to see more initial reactions from NPCs (particularly around the Den) to the champ's change. Yes, their dialogue changes to be more polite, but it's all business-as-usual otherwise.

This is something that could be worked on sometime, I agree.

A few more scenes showing the champ getting used to their new body/reality would have been fun, too.

Try doing some of the exclusive sex scenes, especially the foxfire and patslut ones. Like a lot of parser calls for race, height, stats, class, etc, many blend so seamlessly into the text that most people don't notice until they're pointed out, or they see the docs for themselves.

It's also a bit strange that nobody outside the Den reacts in any way to the champ's change.

The scope is what it is, same way no one reacts whenever Champ changes race or sex. Valkyries will have reactivity from Lumian clergy and related quests, and Astrida from 'manders and perhaps the odd rogue wizard, but we do what we can within a reasonable scope before the marginal benefit per unit of expended effort drops too low.

 

[IraMorti]

Don't know if anyone else feels this way but I feel like Stances should be separate from spammable At-Will abilities/spells. We should have an at-will ability, a stance ability, then two recharge, one encounter, one ultimate. I know it's something that probably never be changed, but since most stances are fire and forget just feel like they aren't really "at will."

 

[WolframL]

Stances generally need to be At-Will so that you can reenter them if you get knocked out of them, and a number of them have benefits on activation as well as ongoing ones (Bolstering Dance, Charge Weapon, the Threat portion of Duelist's Stance, Flametongue for Agni, the attack power buff of Ranger's Stance...) so being able to turn them off and back again in the same turn is also a tangible benefit.

Meanwhile, as the game is balanced around five Powers (which include Stances) I don't see the devs deciding to turn them into a separate slot because then they'd have to rebalance things to account for the player getting one more ability to play with.

 

[bibbitybobbityboop]

I'm saddened to live in a world where "melancholy" is somehow, apparently, considered a fancy word.

I took that into consideration with that and other examples, it's still the wrong usage and I say that as someone who writes and edits semi-professionally.

As a fellow sometimes-paid writer and editor, please stop. You're making us both look ridiculous, and the good points are drowning in everything else.

 

[AStrangeGeek]

Uses more common language, and while admittedly longer would flow better in the scene. Whilst also better hinting at her past trauma without shattering immersion due to sentence issues, wrong word form and other issues.

While I agree that the original sentence indeed needs to be touched up a bit, the idea that "melancholy" is somehow too complex or fancy a word for prose is just plain silly. It can flow perfectly well with that word.

 

[CuteBruiser]

As someone who thoroughly enjoys the "game" part of COC2 (great work guys!) and likes messing around with builds and numbers, it'd be nice to be able to see how powers scale within the game (eg. Spellpower/2, etc.) rather than just the final numbers. Though... one or two power cards already have so much text they go off screen for me. Hm.

I'd use the Wiki, but it still references Resolve.

 

[bibbitybobbityboop]

I'd use the Wiki, but it still references Resolve.

The game still references or tries to heal/damage Resolve in places. For example, the random gain/drain event while wandering around the old forest.

 

[The Observer]

The game still references or tries to heal/damage Resolve in places. For example, the random gain/drain event while wandering around the old forest.

Please bug report such instances.

 

[MarcoPolo121]

Y'know, I'm enjoying Kasyrra as an antagonist so far. She definitely feels more interesting and present compared to Lethice who was one of the worst things about the first game. I just wish the cult she was worshipped by was even half as interesting as her. At this point I find Alissa more enjoyable than them.

 

[Treacherous_Usurper]

Y'know, I'm enjoying Kasyrra as an antagonist so far. She definitely feels more interesting and present compared to Lethice who was one of the worst things about the first game. I just wish the cult she was worshipped by was even half as interesting as her. At this point I find Alissa more enjoyable than them.

We have the cult of the fluffy tail, but where's the cult of the futa cock? You'd expect that to be Kasyrra, but it doesn't really reflect that.
Also, there's a suspicious lack of futas among the Kitsune, makes you wonder if they got converted by some other god instead. I don't think it'd be fair for a Kitsune to have their soul be owned by the Kitsune god from birth.

 

[WolframL]

We have the cult of the fluffy tail, but where's the cult of the futa cock? You'd expect that tod be Kasyrra, but it doesn't really reflect that.

There's enough of that going around Savarra that you don't need a cult; just walk outside and you'll probably find one to worship in short order.

Also, there's a suspicious lack of futas among the Kitsune, makes you wonder if they got converted by some other god instead. I don't think it'd be fair for a Kitsune to have their soul be owned by the Kitsune god from birth.

Except that this is exactly how it works; all kitsune souls are part of their communal oversoul from birth. Floofs are either male or female with no naturally occurring intersex members because they're godsworn and that's how Keros wants things to be, just like all Astrida are big muscly dickgirls whose souls belong to Nareva from birth. The gods can transform the Champ into one in return for your soul, but that's not how it 'normally' works for those two. The only godsworn we know of who are normally transformed from mortals rather than born into the role are Lumia's valkyries.

The one planned (but very back-burnered so who knows if/when she'll get in) floof who is intersex wasn't born that way, it being described as a case of Not-Shinto Fuckery happening.

 

[Treacherous_Usurper]

all kitsune souls are part of their communal oversoul from birth.

I wonder if there are Kitsune who don't agree with that/don't like it. That on its own would be a good reason to fight Keros. If it's fundamentally impossible for such a Kitsune to exist that'd mean a) Kitsune are all brainwashed or b) they share a hivemind in some sense.
a) would be a good reason for a holy crusade against said god, b) would mean all the Kitsune content is just you doing it with a different avatar of Keros, which has all kinds of funny (well, maybe uncomfortable to some, but funny to me) impliciations for their content.

 

[WolframL]

You, uhhh, might wanna refresh your memory on how soul lore works in this setting, because that's not how the kitsune are at all. And I'm not sure how you made the flying leap from 'Can't be born intersex' to 'Brainwashing' in the first place.

 

[Acharehnus]

Does seem odd that an entire race exists in a world like CoC2 and not one has any inclination to go herm.

 

[CitrusWolf]

Does seem odd that an entire race exists in a world like CoC2 and not one has any inclination to go herm.

pretty sure that is just due to who manages the whole race and content not being into such, the only character that I know the observer writes that can have both is the champ and even then I think there is always a significant ignoring of the genitals not necessary for the scene

 

[bibbitybobbityboop]

Does seem odd that an entire race exists in a world like CoC2 and not one has any inclination to go herm.

I don't recall if the local den has any alchemy going on, but considering they have trade access to the Winter City and (presumably) the merchant-alchemists there, availability is probably not the most limiting factor. This means I have no idea what is, though.

On another hand, it might just be a quirk of the local population. Or writer tastes, but that's not a lore reason.

 

[HugLife]

Does seem odd that an entire race exists in a world like CoC2 and not one has any inclination to go herm.

It's just an effect of the writers not being interested in writing a herm kitsune, its not really a reflection on what the actual potential number of kitsune herms are in Savarra. Similar to how in TiTS female Dzaan are supposed to outnumber herms in universe, but in the game there's 10+ herm Dzaan and one female.

 

[CitrusWolf]

It's just an effect of the writers not being interested in writing a herm kitsune, its not really a reflection on what the actual potential number of kitsune herms are in Savarra. Similar to how in TiTS female Dzaan are supposed to outnumber herms in universe, but in the game there's 10+ herm Dzaan and one female.

there is a Dzaan female????!?!

 

[bibbitybobbityboop]

there is a Dzaan female????!?!

Extrameet on Myrellion provides a fleeting encounter with one, yes.

 

[Ultra Chad]

Why after beating Sigrune you can't have victory sex with her?

 

[TheShepard256]

there is a Dzaan female????!?!

Extrameet on Myrellion provides a fleeting encounter with one, yes.

There's also Milly, who is sent to pick up the probe on Mhen'ga and has an optional one-off sex scene.

 

[IraMorti]

That there aren't more outfit sets in the game, or in the very least any MALE outfits. Every time I look at my equipment and read the item descriptions I find it hard not to either imagine male champions either looking like he's cross dressing or a bargain bin clown to get the best stats. Also why do we have shirts for topwear but very few pants options for the bottomwear? Kind of wonder if when my mage wears robes he's not wearing pants, unless I get the studded leathers or something.