Your gripes with CoC II

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CitrusWolf

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That's not a very good example. Such a gift likely brought up memories of the past when she was ostracized and bullied for her preferences. So perhaps you should further examine something before trying to bring up that the author had "no idea what they mean." The word is well known and I'm sure The Observer knew exactly what direction he wanted it to go in, rather than it being some sort of mistake like you are implying.
okay so this is pretty much wrong, while that may be the sentiment, "increasingly melancholy" is plainly miswritten, "increasingly melancholic" would be the correct way to write it
 

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I recently tried the "selling your soul for fluffy tail" route, and I found myself wishing that the world was just a bit more responsive to such a momentous choice.

I really loved the scenes immediately surrounding the transformation, but I had been hoping to see more initial reactions from NPCs (particularly around the Den) to the champ's change. Yes, their dialogue changes to be more polite, but it's all business-as-usual otherwise.

A few more scenes showing the champ getting used to their new body/reality would have been fun, too. Even some sort of summary/montage would have helped to bridge the gap.

It's also a bit strange that nobody outside the Den reacts in any way to the champ's change. (Aren't kitsune supposed to be discriminated against?) ...But I fully understand how much work this would take to implement.
 

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had been hoping to see more initial reactions from NPCs (particularly around the Den) to the champ's change. Yes, their dialogue changes to be more polite, but it's all business-as-usual otherwise.
This is something that could be worked on sometime, I agree.
A few more scenes showing the champ getting used to their new body/reality would have been fun, too.
Try doing some of the exclusive sex scenes, especially the foxfire and patslut ones. Like a lot of parser calls for race, height, stats, class, etc, many blend so seamlessly into the text that most people don't notice until they're pointed out, or they see the docs for themselves.

It's also a bit strange that nobody outside the Den reacts in any way to the champ's change.
The scope is what it is, same way no one reacts whenever Champ changes race or sex. Valkyries will have reactivity from Lumian clergy and related quests, and Astrida from 'manders and perhaps the odd rogue wizard, but we do what we can within a reasonable scope before the marginal benefit per unit of expended effort drops too low.
 

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Don't know if anyone else feels this way but I feel like Stances should be separate from spammable At-Will abilities/spells. We should have an at-will ability, a stance ability, then two recharge, one encounter, one ultimate. I know it's something that probably never be changed, but since most stances are fire and forget just feel like they aren't really "at will."
 

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Stances generally need to be At-Will so that you can reenter them if you get knocked out of them, and a number of them have benefits on activation as well as ongoing ones (Bolstering Dance, Charge Weapon, the Threat portion of Duelist's Stance, Flametongue for Agni, the attack power buff of Ranger's Stance...) so being able to turn them off and back again in the same turn is also a tangible benefit.

Meanwhile, as the game is balanced around five Powers (which include Stances) I don't see the devs deciding to turn them into a separate slot because then they'd have to rebalance things to account for the player getting one more ability to play with.
 

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I'm saddened to live in a world where "melancholy" is somehow, apparently, considered a fancy word.
I took that into consideration with that and other examples, it's still the wrong usage and I say that as someone who writes and edits semi-professionally.
As a fellow sometimes-paid writer and editor, please stop. You're making us both look ridiculous, and the good points are drowning in everything else.
 
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AStrangeGeek

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Uses more common language, and while admittedly longer would flow better in the scene. Whilst also better hinting at her past trauma without shattering immersion due to sentence issues, wrong word form and other issues.
While I agree that the original sentence indeed needs to be touched up a bit, the idea that "melancholy" is somehow too complex or fancy a word for prose is just plain silly. It can flow perfectly well with that word.
 
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As someone who thoroughly enjoys the "game" part of COC2 (great work guys!) and likes messing around with builds and numbers, it'd be nice to be able to see how powers scale within the game (eg. Spellpower/2, etc.) rather than just the final numbers. Though... one or two power cards already have so much text they go off screen for me. Hm.

I'd use the Wiki, but it still references Resolve.

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Y'know, I'm enjoying Kasyrra as an antagonist so far. She definitely feels more interesting and present compared to Lethice who was one of the worst things about the first game. I just wish the cult she was worshipped by was even half as interesting as her. At this point I find Alissa more enjoyable than them.
 
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Y'know, I'm enjoying Kasyrra as an antagonist so far. She definitely feels more interesting and present compared to Lethice who was one of the worst things about the first game. I just wish the cult she was worshipped by was even half as interesting as her. At this point I find Alissa more enjoyable than them.
We have the cult of the fluffy tail, but where's the cult of the futa cock? You'd expect that to be Kasyrra, but it doesn't really reflect that.
Also, there's a suspicious lack of futas among the Kitsune, makes you wonder if they got converted by some other god instead. I don't think it'd be fair for a Kitsune to have their soul be owned by the Kitsune god from birth.
 
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We have the cult of the fluffy tail, but where's the cult of the futa cock? You'd expect that tod be Kasyrra, but it doesn't really reflect that.
There's enough of that going around Savarra that you don't need a cult; just walk outside and you'll probably find one to worship in short order.
Also, there's a suspicious lack of futas among the Kitsune, makes you wonder if they got converted by some other god instead. I don't think it'd be fair for a Kitsune to have their soul be owned by the Kitsune god from birth.
Except that this is exactly how it works; all kitsune souls are part of their communal oversoul from birth. Floofs are either male or female with no naturally occurring intersex members because they're godsworn and that's how Keros wants things to be, just like all Astrida are big muscly dickgirls whose souls belong to Nareva from birth. The gods can transform the Champ into one in return for your soul, but that's not how it 'normally' works for those two. The only godsworn we know of who are normally transformed from mortals rather than born into the role are Lumia's valkyries.

The one planned (but very back-burnered so who knows if/when she'll get in) floof who is intersex wasn't born that way, it being described as a case of Not-Shinto Fuckery happening.
 
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all kitsune souls are part of their communal oversoul from birth.
I wonder if there are Kitsune who don't agree with that/don't like it. That on its own would be a good reason to fight Keros. If it's fundamentally impossible for such a Kitsune to exist that'd mean a) Kitsune are all brainwashed or b) they share a hivemind in some sense.
a) would be a good reason for a holy crusade against said god, b) would mean all the Kitsune content is just you doing it with a different avatar of Keros, which has all kinds of funny (well, maybe uncomfortable to some, but funny to me) impliciations for their content.
 
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WolframL

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You, uhhh, might wanna refresh your memory on how soul lore works in this setting, because that's not how the kitsune are at all. And I'm not sure how you made the flying leap from 'Can't be born intersex' to 'Brainwashing' in the first place.
 
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Does seem odd that an entire race exists in a world like CoC2 and not one has any inclination to go herm.
pretty sure that is just due to who manages the whole race and content not being into such, the only character that I know the observer writes that can have both is the champ and even then I think there is always a significant ignoring of the genitals not necessary for the scene
 

bibbitybobbityboop

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Does seem odd that an entire race exists in a world like CoC2 and not one has any inclination to go herm.
I don't recall if the local den has any alchemy going on, but considering they have trade access to the Winter City and (presumably) the merchant-alchemists there, availability is probably not the most limiting factor. This means I have no idea what is, though.

On another hand, it might just be a quirk of the local population. Or writer tastes, but that's not a lore reason.
 

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Does seem odd that an entire race exists in a world like CoC2 and not one has any inclination to go herm.
It's just an effect of the writers not being interested in writing a herm kitsune, its not really a reflection on what the actual potential number of kitsune herms are in Savarra. Similar to how in TiTS female Dzaan are supposed to outnumber herms in universe, but in the game there's 10+ herm Dzaan and one female.
 

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It's just an effect of the writers not being interested in writing a herm kitsune, its not really a reflection on what the actual potential number of kitsune herms are in Savarra. Similar to how in TiTS female Dzaan are supposed to outnumber herms in universe, but in the game there's 10+ herm Dzaan and one female.
there is a Dzaan female????!?!
 

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That there aren't more outfit sets in the game, or in the very least any MALE outfits. Every time I look at my equipment and read the item descriptions I find it hard not to either imagine male champions either looking like he's cross dressing or a bargain bin clown to get the best stats. Also why do we have shirts for topwear but very few pants options for the bottomwear? Kind of wonder if when my mage wears robes he's not wearing pants, unless I get the studded leathers or something.
 

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I'm saddened to live in a world where "melancholy" is somehow, apparently, considered a fancy word.

As a fellow sometimes-paid writer and editor, please stop. You're making us both look ridiculous, and the good points are drowning in everything else.

While I agree that the original sentence indeed needs to be touched up a bit, the idea that "melancholy" is somehow too complex or fancy a word for prose is just plain silly. It can flow perfectly well with that word.
I didn't say too fancy nor did I say too complex a word, simply that given the common usage that most people will associate with it and that particular piece of writing that it is the wrong word to use for the intended context.
 

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I've already made the bug report for this... but I'm going to complain about it here for two reasons. First I just want more eyes on this so this doesn't sit on the back burner for months before it finally gets patched. Second the fact that months after the combat overhaul there is a combat bug for one of your companions is crazy to me.

If you're wondering what I'm talking about, not only does Atugia's perk "font of well" still mention resolve. It's still uses Max resolve for its math. I figured this out because if it was properly using Max HP instead it would be healing her every turn for double what it currently does. So this bug is currently a large Nerf for her.
 

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I've already made the bug report for this... but I'm going to complain about it here for two reasons. First I just want more eyes on this so this doesn't sit on the back burner for months before it finally gets patched. Second the fact that months after the combat overhaul there is a combat bug for one of your companions is crazy to me.

If you're wondering what I'm talking about, not only does Atugia's perk "font of well" still mention resolve. It's still uses Max resolve for its math. I figured this out because if it was properly using Max HP instead it would be healing her every turn for double what it currently does. So this bug is currently a large Nerf for her.
No, no it doesn't use the max resolve. Even if it did, that returns maxHP now.
I nerfed the amount she heals per turn because it was literally absurd. That was an intentional change. She's still one of the best tanks in the game. She might even be the best tank in the game. She's incredibly good. So yes, it is a large nerf for her.
I just apparently either missed the text change or, because of my explanation of HP being "an abstraction of one's willingness to continue fighting", felt it fine enough conceptually to remain.
 

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KERROOOOOOS!!!! He could've at least TOLD the player that freeing your family would trap them in the orb without you for 10+ years, but nooooo! He had to keep it a secret until it was too late! And here I was considering giving my precious soul to him after all! Stupid Trickster :mad: I wouldn't have minded a throwaway line where it's like "you lived with floof fam for 10 years and were very happy" but I guess he's JUST GOTTA BE LIKE THAT! I'll keep my soul to myself, tyvm :mad: you have BLUNDERED my good sir, and I will be keeping my soul to MYSELF.

EDIT: After thinking it through more rationally it'd also be acceptable if there was some explanation as to why you living with your family as they're being extracted isn't possible, then I could've at least visited them one last time to give them an ample, teary-eyed warning before going through with it, cause you living with your fam for those 10 years would remove a lot of the emotional impact the scene otherwise has. What makes me mad is the UNNECESSARY deception. If he wanted my soul then he wouldn't want to aggravate the character too much because it'd have to be freely given, he's not a demon. He just pulled the wool over my eyes for no good reason. Oh well, maybe he didn't see that coming either. In fact that's probably the explanation. God dammit what a waste of a post this was.
Off topic but where do you find all that content at? I had no idea this god of mischief or whatever existed. I thought I did pretty much everything there is to do right now.
 

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1) That comment is over two years old.
2) The place to find the God Of All Floofs is, shockingly, the Floofhaus. If you've never encountered him, you've clearly missed a lot of content because aside from his own interactions he's instrumental in freeing Kiyoko (after which point she becomes a party member with all that implies) and gated behind that is a separate story for Kinu. Also, the first (and currently only, but more are on the way) soulbinding option in the game comes from him.
 
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