Your gripes with CoC II

[Akhter13]

Ah...Ha moving on....
When this game was announced I was really stoked.
When I heard there was a Cumpire in combination with silly mode and ungodly volumes, I was super stoked.
That was like 2018
It's not like she is end game content like becoming a Dragon.
Her House is on the map of the starting village
You talk to her in about 3 quests and a companion recruitment
May even appear in dream event [I have never triggered it]

I am just saying....

Just slink back into the shadows

 

[Animalistic]

Yeah you're right, rewriting Oxana from a woman to a man is seamless and this is totally feasible to do to every scene in the game.

What is wrong with this?

His pudgy belly presses down on your rock-hard middle, and his big, brown-furred moobs sway hypnotically above your face, nipples so close that they threaten to brush your nose. So you do the only thing you can do and lean in, grabbing a dark mound between your pencil-thin lips and sucking.

Sure enough, you're rewarded not just by a lewd moan and a throb that works its way from Oxan's balls to his crown, but also with a squirt of warm, rich milk that spills across your tongue.

Male lactation and playing with man boobs is fine. It is s pretty hot fantasy and this scene plays with that fantasy.

 

[kiby]

They've been pointing out how unfeasible, and a massive pain in the ass, it would be to seamlessly rewrite literally every single bit of text that involves Evergreen. Every room description mentioning her, every bit of dialogue involving her, her every sex scene would be completely different. This is not like if someone wanted to write Ogrish being a woman instead of a man, Evergreen is a huge character, with a large amount of lore importance and content (and more coming in the future).

If someone commissions or writes a big, milky dad, they can go at it all they want. The problem arises from wanting to change an already long established character into that.

 

[Savin]

They've been pointing out how unfeasible, and a massive pain in the ass, it would be to seamlessly rewrite literally every single bit of text that involves Evergreen. Every room description mentioning her, every bit of dialogue involving her, her every sex scene would be completely different. This is not like if someone wanted to write Ogrish being a woman instead of a man, Evergreen is a huge character, with a large amount of lore importance and content (and more coming in the future).

If someone commissions or writes a big, milky dad, they can go at it all they want. The problem arises from wanting to change an already long established character into that.

He's just writing his own personal fanfic; it's not a big deal.

 

[Animalistic]

They've been pointing out how unfeasible, and a massive pain in the ass, it would be to seamlessly rewrite literally every single bit of text that involves Evergreen. Every room description mentioning her, every bit of dialogue involving her, her every sex scene would be completely different. This is not like if someone wanted to write Ogrish being a woman instead of a man, Evergreen is a huge character, with a large amount of lore importance and content (and more coming in the future).

If someone commissions or writes a big, milky dad, they can go at it all they want. The problem arises from wanting to change an already long established character into that.

I feel like we are speaking to much in hypotheticals here. Since no one here has permission to try turn evergreen into a male herm, I feel like speaking of what is feasible and what is not is a mute point.

Still, to humour myself, rewriting her to be a dude does not seem that tall of a task. Since, as a herm, her scenes already take some, shall we say, musceline qualities. And whenever a character mentions her, all you would have to the from current time of writing and all of her content, is to change She to he, her to him, and Lady to Lord or something approximating male equivalent. Since it is not like Komoris or Carmens dialogue go into her looks. Tho, keeping track of parsers like [evergreen.heShe], [evergreen.isFemale] and all that is annoying if you write to many characters lile her.

Honestly, the hardest part is giving evergreen an appropriate male design that encapsulates male fertility and virility. Which is where you would have to take most liberties with. Or simply just make him a chub, but I am not sure how many people are into those outside of gay community.

Edit: Also, male herm could be a deal breaker to some people that are into guys.

 

[WolframL]

When this game was announced I was really stoked.
When I heard there was a Cumpire in combination with silly mode and ungodly volumes, I was super stoked.
That was like 2018

At this point, maybe we should just pool all our brainpower and figure out how to create a time machine powered by horni, which could be used to give Savin the time he needs to get Carmen's content off the back burner.

 

[Raishu]

They've been pointing out how unfeasible, and a massive pain in the ass, it would be to seamlessly rewrite literally every single bit of text that involves Evergreen.

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I didn't suggest Evergreen specifically, they chose someone who they thought would be difficult to edit around and I did it.

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He's just writing his own personal fanfic; it's not a big deal.

you were the one who asked me to???

 

[SmithEK]

As much as I prefer for Mama Evergreen to stay as Mama.. why not just ask Savin since he wrote Evergreen?

 

[Savin]

Ah...Ha moving on....
When this game was announced I was really stoked.
When I heard there was a Cumpire in combination with silly mode and ungodly volumes, I was super stoked.
That was like 2018
It's not like she is end game content like becoming a Dragon.
Her House is on the map of the starting village
You talk to her in about 3 quests and a companion recruitment
May even appear in dream event [I have never triggered it]

I am just saying....

Just slink back into the shadows

I really, really wish I had time to write Carmen but my attention keeps getting pulled elsewhere.

 

[Adan]

I really, really wish I had time to write Carmen but my attention keeps getting pulled elsewhere.

If 'elsewhere' is some futa content then I forgive you

 

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you were the one who asked me to???

Maybe you need to learn to move on? It's again sounding like maybe this game isn't for you. It's not going to cater to every single player's desires.

 

[Savin]

If 'elsewhere' is some futa content then I forgive you

Mostly Ryn content lately, so yes

 

[loricd]

Very nice. Definitely look forward to the Ryn content. Poor dear has had the nasty cage on for too darn long.

 

[Naas]

The Observer's writing needs a lot more quality control, Their work is rife with gems like this from them trying to use fancy words and having no idea what they mean.

Slowly, Rags grows increasingly melancholy, her expression softening as she examines herself further.

Given the context I highly doubt she's growing depressed or sad from her gift. It'd be more accurate to say she'd be growing increasingly pensive or contemplative. And that's only one example, there are many, many others.

 

[Joey75421]

The Observer's writing needs a lot more quality control, Their work is rife with gems like this from them trying to use fancy words and having no idea what they mean.

Given the context I highly doubt she's growing depressed or sad from her gift. It'd be more accurate to say she'd be growing increasingly pensive or contemplative. And that's only one example, there are many, many others.

That's not a very good example. Such a gift likely brought up memories of the past when she was ostracized and bullied for her preferences. So perhaps you should further examine something before trying to bring up that the author had "no idea what they mean." The word is well known and I'm sure The Observer knew exactly what direction he wanted it to go in, rather than it being some sort of mistake like you are implying.

 

[Kesil]

I have noticed that there's at least one writer which seems to favour what would seem as good titles for smutty post rock albums, what with "undulating ripples feeding through the overwrought tactile resolution" or love juices sizzling and imbuing manhoods with slavering rutting desire.

 

[Naas]

That's not a very good example. Such a gift likely brought up memories of the past when she was ostracized and bullied for her preferences. So perhaps you should further examine something before trying to bring up that the author had "no idea what they mean." The word is well known and I'm sure The Observer knew exactly what direction he wanted it to go in, rather than it being some sort of mistake like you are implying.

I took that into consideration with that and other examples, it's still the wrong usage and I say that as someone who writes and edits semi-professionally. It's definitely a mistake based on the surrounding prose to that particular line and typical language usage of the word melancholy. If she were to grow melancholic (correct usage in that particular instance if they absolutely had to use melancholy) it would be momentary due to the mood. Due to the usage of increasingly in the sentence and from the surrounding text having her grow increasingly pensive or reflective makes far more contextual sense. And there's other examples littered throughout their writing of the same kind of contextual usage mistakes.

Hence I picked that specific example as the two sentence halves don't fit each other and clash. As without having to post too much of the scene for people to see as a potential spoiler it works as a good showcase. It throws the pacing of their writing off when honestly simpler writing would be more fitting and carry more weight to it.
For example, perhaps something along the lines of this:

As Rags considers herself in the mirror, her smile fades for a moment. Her eyes flashing with sadness before her fingertips find the fabric of her sundress. Her expression softening again after a moment as her fingers softly trace over her curves.

Uses more common language, and while admittedly longer would flow better in the scene. Whilst also better hinting at her past trauma without shattering immersion due to sentence issues, wrong word form and other issues.

Berwyn is an exception because he was a companion. Companions are required to have constant support, and he had a questline that was left dangling, so the fact that his original writer was gone meant that either some other writer was going to be required to take him up and fully support him, or that he had to be removed from being a companion. I believed that it would be the full support, but it seems to have been the latter. They didn't want to force someone to write two companions, and it seems that nobody who was eligible for having a companion wanted to take him as one, so, he was removed from the companions.

Got to admit his companion support being pulled surprised me. Personally I'd have left his companion support in there and moved a key item needed for the main quest into his quest line that player's have to recover. That way he could have organically lost companion support following quest events and would effectively be an Act I only companion, until such a time as support is added back.

 

[wery12345]

My guy your wrong in both departments.

 

[Treacherous_Usurper]

The puzzle instructions in the dungeon where you fight Vacia are ambiguous.
Depending on how you interpret them there's at minimum two, at maximum 6-8 valid solutions, but the game only accepts one.

I know because I wrote a python script that checks all possible permutations.

 

[Naas]

My guy your wrong in both departments.

I get paid to do this.... It's even more evident in Kohaku's V scene, there's words in there that most adults of normal intelligence won't know at a glance and using them serves no purpose other than to flex and confuse people.

 

[CitrusWolf]

That's not a very good example. Such a gift likely brought up memories of the past when she was ostracized and bullied for her preferences. So perhaps you should further examine something before trying to bring up that the author had "no idea what they mean." The word is well known and I'm sure The Observer knew exactly what direction he wanted it to go in, rather than it being some sort of mistake like you are implying.

okay so this is pretty much wrong, while that may be the sentiment, "increasingly melancholy" is plainly miswritten, "increasingly melancholic" would be the correct way to write it

 

[CuteBruiser]

I recently tried the "selling your soul for fluffy tail" route, and I found myself wishing that the world was just a bit more responsive to such a momentous choice.

I really loved the scenes immediately surrounding the transformation, but I had been hoping to see more initial reactions from NPCs (particularly around the Den) to the champ's change. Yes, their dialogue changes to be more polite, but it's all business-as-usual otherwise.

A few more scenes showing the champ getting used to their new body/reality would have been fun, too. Even some sort of summary/montage would have helped to bridge the gap.

It's also a bit strange that nobody outside the Den reacts in any way to the champ's change. (Aren't kitsune supposed to be discriminated against?) ...But I fully understand how much work this would take to implement.

 

[The Observer]

had been hoping to see more initial reactions from NPCs (particularly around the Den) to the champ's change. Yes, their dialogue changes to be more polite, but it's all business-as-usual otherwise.

This is something that could be worked on sometime, I agree.

A few more scenes showing the champ getting used to their new body/reality would have been fun, too.

Try doing some of the exclusive sex scenes, especially the foxfire and patslut ones. Like a lot of parser calls for race, height, stats, class, etc, many blend so seamlessly into the text that most people don't notice until they're pointed out, or they see the docs for themselves.

It's also a bit strange that nobody outside the Den reacts in any way to the champ's change.

The scope is what it is, same way no one reacts whenever Champ changes race or sex. Valkyries will have reactivity from Lumian clergy and related quests, and Astrida from 'manders and perhaps the odd rogue wizard, but we do what we can within a reasonable scope before the marginal benefit per unit of expended effort drops too low.

 

[IraMorti]

Don't know if anyone else feels this way but I feel like Stances should be separate from spammable At-Will abilities/spells. We should have an at-will ability, a stance ability, then two recharge, one encounter, one ultimate. I know it's something that probably never be changed, but since most stances are fire and forget just feel like they aren't really "at will."

 

[WolframL]

Stances generally need to be At-Will so that you can reenter them if you get knocked out of them, and a number of them have benefits on activation as well as ongoing ones (Bolstering Dance, Charge Weapon, the Threat portion of Duelist's Stance, Flametongue for Agni, the attack power buff of Ranger's Stance...) so being able to turn them off and back again in the same turn is also a tangible benefit.

Meanwhile, as the game is balanced around five Powers (which include Stances) I don't see the devs deciding to turn them into a separate slot because then they'd have to rebalance things to account for the player getting one more ability to play with.

 

[bibbitybobbityboop]

I'm saddened to live in a world where "melancholy" is somehow, apparently, considered a fancy word.

I took that into consideration with that and other examples, it's still the wrong usage and I say that as someone who writes and edits semi-professionally.

As a fellow sometimes-paid writer and editor, please stop. You're making us both look ridiculous, and the good points are drowning in everything else.

 

[AStrangeGeek]

Uses more common language, and while admittedly longer would flow better in the scene. Whilst also better hinting at her past trauma without shattering immersion due to sentence issues, wrong word form and other issues.

While I agree that the original sentence indeed needs to be touched up a bit, the idea that "melancholy" is somehow too complex or fancy a word for prose is just plain silly. It can flow perfectly well with that word.

 

[CuteBruiser]

As someone who thoroughly enjoys the "game" part of COC2 (great work guys!) and likes messing around with builds and numbers, it'd be nice to be able to see how powers scale within the game (eg. Spellpower/2, etc.) rather than just the final numbers. Though... one or two power cards already have so much text they go off screen for me. Hm.

I'd use the Wiki, but it still references Resolve.

 

[bibbitybobbityboop]

I'd use the Wiki, but it still references Resolve.

The game still references or tries to heal/damage Resolve in places. For example, the random gain/drain event while wandering around the old forest.

 

[The Observer]

The game still references or tries to heal/damage Resolve in places. For example, the random gain/drain event while wandering around the old forest.

Please bug report such instances.