I would love if Wynne could get pregnant. I can't tell if it's possible or not and without being able to see the game's code it's hard to check.
Your gripes with CoC II
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I'm upset Berwyn's no longer a companion anymore.
That's what the word "minority" means. Not only are they a small part of the overall NPC population, they're less than half of the dick-wielding sexable NPC population.
If you have a complaint about content quality, that's something else, and it's frankly something that I can't really speak to. What someone thinks is Good (or even "elaborate") differs from bean to bean. It's a potentially valid complaint, but it's also one that doesn't fit the narrative of "everyone in this game is a futa
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You're right I suppose. I didn't consider the male NPCs to be a minority either but when compared to the female population everything else is apparently.
I think one of the reason why one might have the idea that "everyone in this game is a futa" is because of the disproportional presentation of girls with dicks compared to guys with vaginas. Like yeah there is one or two cboys / male-herms in the game but whenever there is a mention of hermaphroditism it is always heavily implied to be of the female variety which is kinda immersion breaking imo and I can see why some would think that dickgirls are there solely for fetish reasons instead of complementing the world building especially when there are no apparent reasons for it to be that way.
Well it's better than shackling a second companion onto another writer.
I have a feel that the "target audience" isn't interested in the latter, but find that the former may appear in important parts of the story, thus assuming that Savarra is Futaland. Something similar happened with CoC, to the point that a certain common complaint ("furry futa femdom") is included in the CoC2 disclaimer.
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For now, I do have to say that post Quest Berry does seem worse off in terms of content and that the parser soup seemed to harm the overall expirience more than it helped. I do wonder for who this update was aimed for since it does feel kinda of uncertain of who the target audience is.
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He is not worse off, worse off was the other plan of probably just fucking removing him from the game?
I mean, if you are a Berwyn fan, progressing with his quests yields you 4 and something sex scenes and maybe an option to add to him something extra to spice things up.
If you like your Berwyn as he is, a cute Dom, you get 9 scenes. So yeah, basically doing nothing and just having him sit in the tavern does feel like a better choice.
I mean considering even Savin want's B to continue to support Berry post-quest I imagine that content will fill out as it goes. B just spent a year and a half on a massive quest, while also continuing to support Zo content and tending to their own companion. A little patience does seem in order, and parser soup tho it may be, the framework for a lot of potential content has been laid out.
Me, I'm just happy to see a softer side to Berry as well as see him get some personal closure(at least, through the route I took). The brat thing is cute, but in moderation, and the poor boy badly needed a win.
Me, I'm just happy to see a softer side to Berry as well as see him get some personal closure(at least, through the route I took). The brat thing is cute, but in moderation, and the poor boy badly needed a win.
Again, the other option was remove him from the game, why cant you be glad he was given a genuinely good overall expac?
Understanding a decision doesn't negate someone's feelings about it, I have followed this for a long time Berwyn was my fav and well early on made me notice I was more gay than I cared to admit, plus I loved his content. So this change was unexpected and felt like a slap in the face, I get why they did it, but I don't like how it was handled it felt like I just out of nowhere got my fav character thrown out and left worse overall because we lost a lot of stuff for him because of this too. Thats just me, but I assume others feel similarly.
I mean, the whole game is here for fetish reasons.
In games like these, with open community submissions and writer teams that exist because they were community writers once upon a time, the audience reflects the kind of content that gets written. If people wanted more content for he/him characters with vaginas, they would write it. Other than birbs, they haven't. Cboys and maleherms certainly exist in Savarra, but until somebody who's actually interested in them starts writing (or, in birbs' case, writing more), they're not going to have very much of a sexual presence in game.
I totally feel ya on what ya said, it's a shitty situation to be sure tho it's good to know that I'm not the only one feeling like u do about it all.
I feel like there is a way to give Berwyn a nice conclusion to his questline without removing him from being a companion or from the game entirely. Giving us an option to 'customize' our own Berwyn was a neat idea but was ultimately too ambitious to be implement on a party member. Imo this expac wrapped up his story pretty well but I think I'd rather have him stay as a companion without further updates than the body modification shenanigans tbh. (Not saying that the body transformation was bad ofc. I'm just disappointed to lose one of my favorite companion)
Was the only other option to remove him from the game completely? Other characters have been written by authors who have stopped writing them for one reason or another, and they haven't been put through this same situation. Yea, Berwyn was a companion, but what would have been stopping them from just saying "Sorry, Berwyn won't be getting more content". The quest's story was ok (fuck that maze, though), but the whole "completely remake him physically" part felt extremely contrived and out of nowhere.
Also, if we liked Berwyn as he was, especially his large amount of scenes at the Frosthound, then completing this quest leaves his non-story content just plain worse off than before. Gone are his 9 various direct sex scenes, gone is his petting scene, gone are his threesomes and voyeur scenes with Cait, gone is the ability to talk with him about having children. I'm praying that all his regular scenes being removed by finishing this quest is unintentional.
Because the entire pitch behind companions is that they do have ongoing content that integrates them with the story, the world and each other. It's literally right there in the primary design doc in bold that Savin does not want CoC1 bubble waifus who don't interact with anybody else. It's also right there in the still-stickied topic that Tobs wrote about writing companions. Even the companions who have the least content right now have more integration with the rest of the cast and with ongoing events than Berry.
So yeah, leaving him as-is with no new content would just exacerbate how much of a bubble character he ended up as due to Real Word Circumstances intervening and he'd continue to be literary dead space in every quest and the main plot. I suppose you could argue there's some utility in that if (for example) you're trying to see all the Abyssal Depths companion content for a particular character since it takes the random factor out, but that's an edge case and I don't think it justifies leaving him in but unsupported.
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Also one of the primary issues facing Berry was that a resolution to his story was promised even before Hugs left and it's reflected very frequently in the writing. A resolution needed to be written as well as addressing the issue that he was an unsupported companion that required others pick up the slack to have any kind of inclusion. The options faced were leave him unfinished which is not a future-friendly finished product solution, unload the burden onto someone else which is honestly kind of unfair in the long run, remove them from the game which leaves everyone unhappy, or give him some closure and revoke his status as companion.
I have my issues with how it was delivered which is shared with many others who discussed their feelings with Savin in the discord (who was a very good sport about the whole thing) and I am sad to lose a companion I liked as well as a chunk of their content but I'm also understanding of a lot of the reasoning behind it and how there was no truly good solution. I'm also hopeful that there is more to come later on to refill the gap left by the inaccessible scenes.
I have my issues with how it was delivered which is shared with many others who discussed their feelings with Savin in the discord (who was a very good sport about the whole thing) and I am sad to lose a companion I liked as well as a chunk of their content but I'm also understanding of a lot of the reasoning behind it and how there was no truly good solution. I'm also hopeful that there is more to come later on to refill the gap left by the inaccessible scenes.
Yeah, this was not done as something to be a "fuck you" to berry enjoyers, but to leave him in a state that allows him to actually still see content instead of either A being removed or B getting a finished story by someone who wasnt the original creator as a companion, and no one wants to do that.
Because stuff like that is bad for the game, and Berwyn was a special case. Most characters already recieved expansions in one way or another, the only exceptions were Quintilus, Berwyn and Agni.
- Agni is the most recent companion, which means she has very little content overall.
- Quintilus is tied with Tollus' Cult, meaning there isn't much TO do with him so far, he's tied up with an antagonist's progression.
- Berwyn stands out not only because he's the only one of the older companions to not have any major expansions, but because he was recruited through a quest that was left open-ended. Hell he joined you in the hopes of pretecting himself from Matiha because she was still at large.
Imagine setting that up and then Matiha is never mentioned again. That is the textbook definition of bad storytelling.
So, according to the data that you yourself provided, over 20% of the women encountered in this game have a penis. That's a great deal more than the 0.6% of people 13 and older who identify as trans in the United States alone (read: All trans people, not just trans women.) I never implied that women with penises where a majority, only that there are a great deal of them more in this game then in real life. In reality, women with penises are extremely rare.
How Many Adults and Youth Identify as Transgender in the United States?
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I think that you misunderstand the point that I was trying to make. I'm not implying that trans women, or women with penises shouldn't be represented in this game, they absolutely should. But they're also over-represented in comparison to reality. It would take very little to simply explain why there is such a delta between our world and Savarra.
Very little of the Godswar has been explained and explored in the game so far - aside from how it relates to the living gods that is. There's very little to consider, because we simply do not know the impact the Godswar had on Savarra or its inhabitants. No doubt many people died. Entire nations where set aflame. But a few centuries afterwards and everything seems to be fine and well in the world of Savarra. It would be extremely easy to create a simple codex page explaining (even in broad strokes) the impact the Godswar had - but all we have now is supposition
But y'know, you're right. Someone should really tell Savin and everyone else who has worked hard on this game that this game is merely porn and that they (the contributers et al) should be held to a lower standard because of it. There is nothing great or transformative with this game. It's the lowest of the low.
Hmm. On second thought, that seems a bit rude, don't you think WolframL?
I have a thing for "muscle (dick)girls" just like Savin. In fact, I'm pretty sure Savin and I share a lot of interests - which is why I enjoy this game a whole lot. But again, when I can start a drinking game because certain types of characters in this game have become its own trope, would it really hurt to branch things out instead of oversaturating these characters?
And yes, Khor'minos might have a king (for now) but that doesn't take away from what I was saying. And whether there where a great deal of male rulers in Savarra's past is completely irrelevant. Because we're dealing with Savarra's present and future. If Savin wants the vast majority of rulers to be women, then that's great. But I feel that such a thing can and should be quickly explained.
Is it not implied that once you rescue his daughter Ahmri from Master Tollus that the title of chieftan would fall to her? Leaving her in charge? She's called a centaur princess after all.
Wow, this is such a useful and cromulent reply.
"This thing isn't coherent."
"Learn to live with that thing"
No. I don't think I will learn to live with things that unnecessarily don't make sense. Especially when the solution is so simple.
Being interested in long-term goals isn't mutually exclusive with being evil.
And it's completely irrelevant as to who's currently working working on this game. This game is quite literally a sequel to the first game, and what's more it's set in the same universe. It's been designed from the ground up by the lead developer to be so. You want to show the main antagonist as acting abnormal?
Great.
Explain why.
See above.
>Wraith invade and start a war that nearly annihilates the world
If you don't consider that grimdark, then I don't even know what to say.
You do you. I was merely making a non-serious tongue-in-cheek comment.
Plenty of people live without empathy in our very world.
They're called psychopaths, and most of them are normal people like you and I.
Allow me to point you to my reply to them, in which I debunk the claim that there isn't a huge difference between Savarra and the real world. There's a huge, largely unexplained difference between Savarra and our world. It might be realistic enough for you, but it's not realistic enough for me to suspend my disbelief.
So discounting the races who magically have be-dicked women (unexplained for no reason) and the women who acquire penises by accident, let's assume that changing your genitalia is completely normal and even common-place to the common inhabitant of Savarra. And let's say for the sake of argument that both women and men have equal access to genitalia-changing alchemy/magic.
Where are the men with vaginas? Where are the hermaphroditic men?
Oh, you are correct. I misremembered and for some reason only remembered Morwen as having a penis.
"They're literally made of magic."
Hand-waving nonsensical things away as the product of magic is so completely and utterly lazy. But according to the dryads' wiki page, at least it's implied that dryads' gentiles are divorced from gender/sex.
Which I appreciate. So good job whoever created the dryads.
There have been plenty of city-states throughout history that have been able to muster some kind of soldiery in times of need, see: Ancient Greece, and 18th century Germanic states. Why can't The Frost Marches unite, or try to combat this newfound threat? They have every reason to get their collective asses into gear as quickly as possible. And even if the regional powers can't or won't unite, then what about the actual superpowers of the world? Where are their armies? I don't believe we've heard a peep from them, even though it would be simple to send pigeons with an urgent message.
Even the living gods are taking note of Kassyra and stepping in from time-to-time. So where are their followers? Why aren't they mustering to face this clear and present danger?
Nope. That's not what I said or implied at all.
I think that making everyone look attractive makes nobody stand out enough, and so the average gets pushed up and no characters stands out. No character really takes your breath away.
Because they all share the same general features.
Are you... not aware that many of these forced TFs are unlabeled? So when you click the option expecting one thing, but you get something else then that isn't the player's problem because they aren't given the appropriate information beforehand. Literally the first potential sex scene in the game (with Kassyra) is replete with forced transformations that the player cannot opt out of if they didn't know beforehand. And even if they do know and don't want them, then that means no sex!
Keeping vital information from the player is very much an issue. It's completely unnecessary. It's poor game design.
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This. Is. A. Fantasy. Game. It does not need to reflect real life. Fantasy. Game.
Only because you have not been paying attention. The game describes the impact of the Godswar repeatedly, there is an entire quest where you explore the ruins of a fort that fell during the Godswar and hear what it did to the region. The hub location where you begin the game and spend a lot of your time had to be rebuilt a few decades before the game begins because it took that long after the Godswar for the population levels to return to the point that they could rebuild a permanent settlement there. There is a sequence that contains some of the most significant lore in the game which tells you straight up that a major city is an absolute shell of its former glory because of the Godswar. Characters talk about how bad things are in the heartlands that bore the brunt of the fighting. That you think it hasn't been explained does not mean that it hasn't been.
There is no part of telling a compelling story that requires a fucking essay about race relations, just to fit your obsession with having every possible detail explained about why people are mostly getting along.
You want to see something different? Write it.
Actually, yes it does, because your argument was 'lol no kings'. The single greatest polity on the planet had a ruling emperor before the Godswar happened.
And I think that you're mistaking a game for a sociopolitical tract, which it is not and was never intended to be.
Ummm, no. Go back to the village and read instead of skimming over it and picking out stupid crap to nitpick. Taldahs is still the chief of the village, Ahmri is his daughter. You may be confusing her with Atani, who does assume permanent leadership over the marefolk village because her mother isn't really in a good state to take up that responsibility due to the permahorni.
If you can't live with the worldbuilding as the devs have done it for (checks) four years and counting, plus the lead time before anything was publicly released, you might as well just stop because the game has gone that long and nobody else has complained that what CoC2 really needs is an explanation for why there are so many female leaders or why the proportion of dickgirls does not match any real-world percentages. Newsflash: Savarra is not the real world, it doesn't have to reflect anything in it that the devs don't want to.
No, but it means that she has a much better handle on herself than the CoC1 demons did. Demons who were, also, not written to be terribly deep characters. Hence, why she comes across as different. The writing actually acknowledges this.
I could direct you to a dozen posts by the devs where they say, using very small words, that CoC2 is not CoC1 and you shouldn't be using it as a model for anything in the game. I'm sorry, you are objectively wrong. It does matter who's writing it and it does not matter that it's a sorta-sequel to the earlier game. And really, 'sequel' because it's not set in the same world and it does not have any continuity of plot or (with one exception that you may never even see) of characters.
I think you're making shit up (seriously, find me a source in the game for "It's seemingly common for people to be brutally hacked up, raped, set aflame, etc.". I also think you're using a very different definition of grimdark than I am. It's a pervasive tone and not one that applies to Savarra. At all. Don't believe me, here's a dev to tell you that You Are Wrong:
The irony here is that this is Tobs speaking, the writer who comes as close as any of them do to having anything approaching grimdark. And he says you're full of shit.
By definition, a psychopath is not 'normal'. There's a reason they call its study 'abnormal psychology'.
Fortunately, you are a tiny minority screaming into the void.
Literally. Born. That. Way. It's right there in the Codex entry for the Wyld and Frost Elves.
They're an extremely niche fetish that none of the staff writers and very few community writers are interested in, so they don't show up. It's really that simple. And before you say 'but muh population numbers, they don't add up!' let me direct you to Tobs again, saying that the devs do not give a flying fuck about meeting any sort of diversity quota.
And yet, it's not wrong. They are literally described as nature spirits, a thing that you will not find in the real world no matter how hard you search. Ergo, Wsan doesn't have to justify why one of his dryads has a horse peen. That's how they're written. For the Nth time, deal with it snowflake.
Ancient Greece had city-states with citizen populations (ie, the adult males who'd be fighting) numbering in the thousands to ten of thousands. Hawkthorne has, including the surrounding farmsteads, a total population of about one thousand people. The numbers simply Do Not Work for a standing army, though if you, y'know, pay attention, you might see dialogue about the training of a militia.
They don't exist anymore. We have been told this. Repeatedly. The superpower of the world got its shit kicked in by the Godswar.
Largely busy dealing with the aftermath of the aforementioned shit-kicking-in which still afflicts most of the Belharan heartland. Do everyone a favor and if you have not done so already, do the High Ground quest and pay very close attention to what everyone says about sinkholes and similar phenomenon.
They share the same general features in art because they're being drawn by, largely, one person these days. Savin is not a AAA game studio that can afford to hire half a dozen designers to make sure every character is completely unique.
Also, 'takes your breath away' is in the eye of the beholder.
You literally stated that you clicked the wrong button, opting into a transformation. That's on you. You you you you. Other transformations are literally signposted for you, usually with bold text in a tooltip. If you don't bother to read it, that's not the devs' fault...
The outward transformations that Kas can inflict on you are all opt-in. You have to pick the Nod option (which tells you that it will transform you, just like the dialogue leading up to the decision) in order for her to give you breasts and alter your Femininity score. If you didn't read properly and hit the option, that is your fault.
It. Is. Clearly. Signposted. And. Is. Opt. In.
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Savarra having woman with dicks is consistent with the rest of the connected universe that being Mareth (Coc 1) and Aruna (Savin's DnD game).
Seems like a stretch but it does hit some points while missing others completely from the Cambridge definition:
"What defines grimdark?
/ˈɡrɪm.dɑːrk/ a type of fantasy fiction (= stories that are not set in the real world)
with characters who behave in ways that are morally bad and a subject matter that is sad, hopeless, or
violent: They prefer grimdark to more uplifting genres of fiction .Jul 20, 2022 GRIMDARK | meaning in the Cambridge English Dictionary".
No one seems to have written up a character for those kinds of people yet due to what seems to be a lack of interest from those who write.
Sniped ill be damned ...
I'm all for making a world seem more alive by having that kind of tension exist and to be able to try and mend it, which is why I'm really confused about the complaint this quote is addressing.
Like, there's plenty of racial conflict that we're confronted with in game, Kitsune VS everyone, Orcs and minotaurs have SLAVES, the far northern races are dealing with colonialism from the elves. None of that is hidden away in codex's or anything it's all pretty plainly displayed.
I'm really hoping we get a chance to address the issues frankly. Would love to be a diplomat between races, we already do a bit of it in game but MOAR.
It's all pretty maturely delivered and it can be pretty grim. They certainly don't shy away from what Orcs do to there slaves. Apart from the you know...slavery there's plenty of implied rape. I dunno how much more grim/medieval you can get.
Humans were one of the two main races in the Belharan Empire, which basically took over a massive part of the world before the Godswar. They ran an empire that took over a massive part of the world, and you think that that isn't conflict? Anyways, the Godswar literally destroyed many civilizations, including Belhar, which was functionally the United States of its time, and set technology back hundreds of years. It took a whole bunch of races and civilizations working together to fight them off. And you know what? Even after that, there are still conflicts, wars, and racism. We don't see much of those, because of our quest, but if you want just one shot of racism, look at the friction between Kitsune and non-kitsune.
Taldahs is still ruling, Khor'minos is ruled by a king, the Winter City was ruled by a King (Ryn and Alyssa's father) before he got killed by a wild boar, the Salamander kingdom Tychris is currently ruled by a king. Kingdoms seem to be ruled by whoever has a leadership position. It isn't decided by gender outside of a few instances, but you seem to think they're all ruled by queens just because a few of them have queens without kings, and you seem to think that patriarchies must be the norm, despite how Savarra very clearly doesn't play by Earth rules, and it often seems that women are just as strong and capable as men.
She's come to deliver an apocalypse to this world and all other worlds she can find. Sure, it's a very sexy apocalypse, but I'm still fairly certain that her actions would be considered genocide, under the definition of it being a destruction of a nation or ethnicity's culture or way of life.
Obviously, Eryka isn't happy. Taldahs isn't happy either, he was just desperate enough to accept it. The people being terrorized by gangs of corrupted centaurs weren't happy. The citizens of Hawkethorne who were getting raped by Alraune Effigies and corrupted Hornets weren't happy. The people fighting to preserve their cultures and ways of life from a maniacal dictator would very much love to disagree with you.
Kas's world would be a fun place, and there'd be upsides, but she's decided to force her way upon everyone. Also, the negatives of lacking a soul include having your empathy lost and having your willpower wildly changed. As Farrah tells you, the loss of her Soul led to her loosing any interest or desire in anything except for merchandising and having sex. It makes people hyper-fixated on one thing that they were interested in before it was gone (alongside sex), to the exclusion of everything else.
Context isn't needed. But if you do, there are races which are hermaphroditic. Even in reality, there are hermaphroditic species, so why is it so inconceivable to you that this fantasy world has some? Aside from that, there's alchemy and magic, both of which have been shown to grow cocks and otherwise change bodies. And if what you're wondering is why so many women have dicks that they want, this isn't Earth. Why do so many people have tails? Real humans aren't generally comfortable with tails, when they even have it. But many characters in CoC2 have tails, and they're fine. So why can't you imagine this, but with cocks?
I do want more corruption perpetrated by the champ.
Because we're fucking them. There are more average people which appear, but they might not stick out in your head, or you may just view them as attractive too. Because average is attractive too.
The only forced TF that can happen without you taking the action is if you loose to the Tanuki Witch before beating her and telling her not to tf your cock and balls. Anything else, you opt into it.
Why do you think that reality has to play any part with this? Catgirls are over-represented here compared to reality. Demons are over-represented here. Savarra isn't Earth. It's a separate, imaginary world. Things in this world are the way that they are because that's how they developed in the past.
It is very clear what happened. Hell, there's an entire event called the Convocation of Mirrors, which 1: has massive spoilers, and 2: Talks a lot about the Godswar and what the situation was like. Even aside from that, there's ruins everywhere from the time of the Godswar, showing the ruin that it brought.
Take a shot for every horny catgirl. Take a shot for every demon. Take a shot for every unnamed enemy in a group fight that is generally a dick.
There are kings in the present, and near past. How many queens have we actually seen so far? Two. And one tribe of horsegirls run by a horsegirl, balanced out by the centaurs run by a guy. And a tribe of orcs where you can depose a guy and replace him with a girl. We haven't seen a massive table of rulers, only a few, and a good chunk of them are male.
Not at all, did you actually read it at all? Ahmri has basically no administrative power. She's a pampered girl, and her big strong daddy isn't going to let her suddenly be shoved into a position of command like that.
Kas's only abnormal trait is that she seems to be developing a romantic interest in the Champ. This is explicitly pointed out, and it seems, to me at least, to be tied to her baby desire and the Champ's soul. She wants to nurture the Champ's power so she can take his soul and use it for her experiments. Her long-term goals include having a baby, but they also include utterly obliterating the way of life of many people.
The gods... Okay, you really need to play through the Convocation of Mirrors.
Anyways, where the hell are you getting this from? Your claims as to what's being done to people is made up, and while there isn't modern medicine, there's magical healing spells, as demonstrated by the White Mage class and the priests/clerics that are found in the world. Many of them have a dedicated heal button, in which they completely heal you of your wounds.
And, besides. Grimdark is about tone. You could make a grimdark story about baking cupcakes with the right tone, and this game absolutely lacks a grimdark tone. Nobody is swimming in waves of pigshit, and people are generally happy-go-lucky.
You didn't debunk shit. All you said is that there's more girls with cocks than in reality. And, as you may have noted from my previous statements, Savarra isn't Earth. You don't need to explain why more girls want to have cocks than Earth women beyond saying "more Savarran women like having cocks than Earth women." I do think we need more guys with pussies though, but nobody wants to write one, and this game is ultimately fueled by what people want to write.
There aren't enough people to unite, and they're not close enough together. Plus, Kas's corruption turns groups against each other, making hornets rape lupines and centaurs molest mares.
As for why the followers of the Living Gods aren't stepping in, they are. Champions and soldiers are arriving in the Frost Marches after the Winter City, called by their gods to fight. The thing is, this game is set in the span of a few months. Mobilizing and transporting troops to a distant part of the world takes time.
I basically never used/interacted with Berwyn myself, but I can see why people would be disappointed that he is no longer a companion (I can also respect companion variety and we are losing our Lupine companion, and one of the few male companions).
That being said, I did like this update/quest. I enjoyed the maze concept, although I thought some of the hints could be a little... ambiguous. Initially though you had to follow the veins, then you would destroy the heart and the tower would stop shifting allowing you to explore it properly, but you end up finding the heart relatively quickly. Some of the hints were fine (the main tower being to east when you get on top of the wall, the handprint on the banner although I can't remember if the handprint is described as being purely decorative or not). Others, like the chair facing north... I thought were a bit vague. Ultimately its fine and doesn't take long to get through on repeat runs.
I enjoyed the resolution and when given the option to alter Berwyn, I went for large breasted, female Wynne without hesitation. I do have the same complaints about there seemingly being fewer scenes with Berwynne post quest, but I am assuming that this wont be the definite end to the content scene wise? I can live with knowing that more scenes will probably be added.
That being said, I did like this update/quest. I enjoyed the maze concept, although I thought some of the hints could be a little... ambiguous. Initially though you had to follow the veins, then you would destroy the heart and the tower would stop shifting allowing you to explore it properly, but you end up finding the heart relatively quickly. Some of the hints were fine (the main tower being to east when you get on top of the wall, the handprint on the banner although I can't remember if the handprint is described as being purely decorative or not). Others, like the chair facing north... I thought were a bit vague. Ultimately its fine and doesn't take long to get through on repeat runs.
I enjoyed the resolution and when given the option to alter Berwyn, I went for large breasted, female Wynne without hesitation. I do have the same complaints about there seemingly being fewer scenes with Berwynne post quest, but I am assuming that this wont be the definite end to the content scene wise? I can live with knowing that more scenes will probably be added.
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I've actually had no gripes with the game so far (besides some questionable writing quality at some points), neither did I mind Berwyn being taken out as a companion. But this new update for the first time made it so that whole sex scenes were literally word for word the same. Maybe this has happened before and I just haven't gotten to said content? Keep in mind, I probably have more to discover from this update, but god damn I clicked on Matiha excited to see her scenes and both are literally the same thing with only a change in which part is being fucked. Berwyn didn't even get a new scene on the both option (bar changing her body). I click on both, and the descriptions for a lot of parts were ctrl+c then +v'ed from the two characters being sexed up on their own. Needless to say, so far the sex has been incredibly disappointing. I'd say even annoying. Don't just copy paste scenes and interswitch them between the word ass and pussy. Write different, unique scenes. And if it's too much work or there's not enough time then just keep things to a minimum. I prefer a three paragraph long sex scene to...this. I seriously hope this doesn't become the norm in future updates. This being said, I'll keep digging and see what else comes up.
Sometimes I make potions for TFs and they do nothing despite the wiki saying they should do something. Tried using Incubus Cum and Succubus milk to get bubble butt perk, but nothing happened even after 7 potions besides the increase in corruption. Maybe it was a bug though? but yeah, the TFs dont seem to work as "advertised"(not sure if wiki is managed by the dev team). I've been staying away from TFs because of this, scared about what they might do, but I actually really like TF items.
And I am sorry to all the Berwyn lovers. He wasn't really my cup of tea(as a companion, I basically did treat him like an NPC from the beginning), but I wouldn't have wished this outcome on anyone. Hard for the Devs and the Community. Hopefully future NPC Berwyn content is good and can take some of the sting out. I hope we can get back at least some of the old lost content in some form after converting it for NPC Berwyn. That alone should go a long way towards making things better.
And I am sorry to all the Berwyn lovers. He wasn't really my cup of tea(as a companion, I basically did treat him like an NPC from the beginning), but I wouldn't have wished this outcome on anyone. Hard for the Devs and the Community. Hopefully future NPC Berwyn content is good and can take some of the sting out. I hope we can get back at least some of the old lost content in some form after converting it for NPC Berwyn. That alone should go a long way towards making things better.
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