Your gripes with CoC II

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Animalistic

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Can twinks count?
Sure! Basically same thing to me the longer I think off it. So what do you mean when you say you want more femboys/twinks? Do you want more Subs, doms, top, bottoms? Or someone that is a switch.
What kind of relationship with the champ? Lovers, friends, fuckbuddies, that between master and a slave?
Sexual relationship? Exclusive, open, mixed (has sex with others with you around?). Or is anything fine with you?
 

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Sure! Basically same thing to me the longer I think off it. So what do you mean when you say you want more femboys/twinks? Do you want more Subs, doms, top, bottoms? Or someone that is a switch.
What kind of relationship with the champ? Lovers, friends, fuckbuddies, that between master and a slave?
Sexual relationship? Exclusive, open, mixed (has sex with others with you around?). Or is anything fine with you?
What I mean is there are quite a few femboys, twinks, or pretty boys, whatever you want to call them, like I could probably count the overall number I've encountered with both hands. And to answer your question, I'd personally rather have scenes where characters switch, their relations would be between lovers, friends, and fuckbuddies, and their relationship would be open and mixed.
 
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I am confused, do you mean to say that we have enough femboys as it is or not?
And when you say
I'd personally rather have scenes where characters switch, their relations would be between lovers, friends, and fuckbuddies, and their relationship would be open and mixed.
Do you mean you want a relationship that has a progression from friends to fuckbuddies to lovers?
And an open one... I feel like we have to many of those with guys in CoC2 but mixed sounds fine tho.
 

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I am curious, why does non hostile encounters, kura for example since beating her 3 times makes her non hostile for everyone, still show up on the pick a fight option post hostilities.
 

wery12345

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Yeah her and the other kitsune encounters tend to be the common occurrence in pick a fight.
 

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A gripe I have is that Etheryn cannot be ass-fucked by a pc if their cock is longer than 12 inches (without the champion becoming an evil bastard). Despite this she can take Hashat's 14 incher and the minotaurs in Khorminos' Party Service scene.
 

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Yeah, that's an artifact of an early plan for the Champ to be able to train her ass to take larger insertions, but it quietly died when nobody really felt like supporting it and all her new content past that point ignores it. Changing that would probably mean poking at spaghetti code and possibly causing hilarious fuckery when something unexpected breaks as a result.

One thing that's not immediately obvious (hat-tip to Aly) is that all of her new content that doesn't care about penis size still counts towards her capacity for those early sex options, so it's possible to train her to take a larger penis without having to be an asshole. Due to the way it's coded you need to be one size larger than you want to ultimately use with her non-Monstrous Anal options, so if you want to do tender anal with 14 inches, do stuff like her her sleep scenes with 15 and then lose an inch.
 

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A gripe I have is that Etheryn cannot be ass-fucked by a pc if their cock is longer than 12 inches (without the champion becoming an evil bastard). Despite this she can take Hashat's 14 incher and the minotaurs in Khorminos' Party Service scene.
While a lot of the newer scenes with her ignore size, I've still always been irritated by this. You can technically get her to be able to take cocks bigger than 12 inches, but that's only possible by repeatedly fucking her with cocks larger than 12 inches, It kinda defeats the purpose, and leads to me exclusively using 12 inch cocks outside of corrupt characters. I've just kinda shrugged and moved on, but I would still rather she just get allowed to have bigger cocks in her.
 

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A gripe I have is that Etheryn cannot be ass-fucked by a pc if their cock is longer than 12 inches (without the champion becoming an evil bastard). Despite this she can take Hashat's 14 incher and the minotaurs in Khorminos' Party Service scene.
It's kinda like how some NPCs will only have sex with champ with they have a cock but doesnt care otherwise if somebody else who is pure female doesn't.
 

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It's kinda like how some NPCs will only have sex with champ with they have a cock but doesnt care otherwise if somebody else who is pure female doesn't.
The only NPC that I can think of doing that is Lusamine. I can not remember anyone else.
 

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The only NPC that I can think of doing that is Lusamine. I can not remember anyone else.
Could be..
Ah Hashat with Etheryn, okay this one is about vaginas.
Ryn's a shemale elf and still gets sexed by Hashat but if champ doesn't have a vagina but still a elf they dont get to.
 

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That might just be a oversight from when they were writing her, probably focused more on the ryn getting some horse cock than the champ.
 
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I think Kiyoko has spoiled me for many impregnable (hah!) girls in this game. If you get a girl pregnant and you don't get to meet the child, name it or do some kind of basic interactions with it, it feels a lot less special. Shout out to Skow and B for their writing of Aileh and Zo's pregnancies.
 

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But we dont get to name Kiyoko's spawn.. her attitude puts me off while Aileh, Livrea and Zo do give the champs the chance to name the kid (even though I'm a sap and just go with what the birth mothers want, since they carried them) and the champs have much better interactions with their kids than Kinu and her siblings.
 

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I think an interaction with Rindo explains it as the champ not knowing how kitsune names are/work and with how they are still pretty isolationist having a name that is more marcher than kitsune could cause issues for them. Less done out of malice more done out of the fact kitsune aren't open to people yet.
 

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Can I say? I don't like games where companions have different XP bars from your main character. Unless it's something like XCom where you have a bunch of expendable red shirts for soldiers levelling everyone separately just feels like an annoying act of micromanagement. Thank you for changing it so they match the Champion's XP instead.
 
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I mean there is a reason Berwyn was the last I got to 6, and quin. Both of them just really died turn 1 in the undermountain.
 

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I detest the level cap.

Like I didn't buy the game so that I'd have to micromanage the combat builds and equipment of all the characters. I bought it for the sake of the coom.

In the original CoC combat only really served to gatekeep some content. If you were too weak for an area you could just go out and grind up your level/stats. The progression actually felt rewarding, because if you put your time in you could eventually power through like a living god. There were no real hard limits to the playstyle. You could wear whatever you wanted and develop whichever skills you wanted and in the end it was viable.
 

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I detest the level cap.

Like I didn't buy the game so that I'd have to micromanage the combat builds and equipment of all the characters. I bought it for the sake of the coom.

In the original CoC combat only really served to gatekeep some content. If you were too weak for an area you could just go out and grind up your level/stats. The progression actually felt rewarding, because if you put your time in you could eventually power through like a living god. There were no real hard limits to the playstyle. You could wear whatever you wanted and develop whichever skills you wanted and in the end it was viable.
Mate it's an early access game, calm down.
 
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Mate it's an early access game, calm down.
Hey man, moaning and groaning is the point of the thread. Just dropping my contribution.

Though I'm not sure how early access is going to help, since isn't the game going to have a hard cap of level 10 when it's done? Like unless there's some ascension mechanic introduced to give you extra perks on a new game+, you're still going to get bogged down by it.
 

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Did you play the original game when it was in active development? Or have you played TiTS? It's how they do things. Especially since levels have associated powers and perks and they're refining those over time.

The game is balanced around the party's expected level, if you're having trouble anywhere other than the Undermountain at max level the solution is to Git Gud.
 

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Did you play the original game when it was in active development? Or have you played TiTS? It's how they do things. Especially since levels have associated abilities and perks and they're refining those over time.

When you say "original game" I assume you mean the first CoC. And yeah, I did play it when it was still being actively developed. Not right out of the gate, but I started playing when the game became well known around the net, and I never encountered any leveling or stat cap problems. If combat ever tied you down, you just go to the gym in Tel'Adre and spend a few minutes grinding your stats up. There were only ever a handful of enemies where you needed to grind actual levels for the perk points.

As for TiTs, I never have and never will play it. I'm sure other people like it but for me it's just a world setting problem. I like the fantasy RP. Not so hot for the modern space epic stuff.
 

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When you say "original game" I assume you mean the first CoC. And yeah, I did play it when it was still being actively developed. Not right out of the gate, but I started playing when the game became well known around the net, and I never encountered any leveling or stat cap problems. If combat ever tied you down, you just go to the gym in Tel'Adre and spend a few minutes grinding your stats up. There were only ever a handful of enemies where you needed to grind actual levels for the perk points.

As for TiTs, I never have and never will play it. I'm sure other people like it but for me it's just a world setting problem. I like the fantasy RP. Not so hot for the modern space epic stuff.
One thing I agree with is what's the point in the gym at all in CoC2? Like in TiTs and CoC the gym helped build up the MCs stats.. CoC2 could put that in.
 
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One thing I agree with is what's the point in the gym at all in CoC2? Like in TiTs and CoC the gym helped build up the MCs stats.. CoC2 could put that in.
I guess you just go there and run for a bit when you want to make sure your character description reads as thin, but like - you could just throw in a few transformative items to get the same result.

Maybe in the future there will be more characters there to bang, but even then that kind of feels lacking. Like come on man, I just want to power solo my journey and strike terror into the hearts of anyone that fights against me.
 

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Like come on man, I just want to power solo my journey and strike terror into the hearts of anyone that fights against me.
If your goal is to be able to solo everything as some super strong force, that's not going to be found in CoC2. The team making it deliberately eschewed a lot of stuff present in CoC. It's a fundamentally different game, designed around having a team of companions and relatively limited power. I don't like that the level cap will be 10, I feel like it'll end up not feeling that strong unless there's a massive jump in strength between now and then. Though admittedly, they've said that the level 7 perks apparently make the player and companions way, way stronger than they are now, and they've only not given us level 7 because of the combat rebalance, which has just now begun to actually appear.

But yeah, this isn't a game where you can feasibly venture alone, and it's not meant to be. I'd say you should play TiTS if you want the solo power fantasy, but you apparently don't like sci-fi.
 

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The gym exists to modify certain parts of your appearance for the parser checks for said bits.
 
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