Your gripes with CoC II

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MarcoPolo121

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I admit, coming out of Mayternity my biggest disappointment was that we didn't get anymore movement on scenes with Brint/Brienne's family. Like, Brienne is trying to sell me on making her little sister and mother into my babymommas too, and I thought with the focus on Khor'minos, that would come (or at least the teased threesome). Guess we'll be waiting a while longer.

Like I don't want to diminish any of what we got. It's good. I'm just disappointed.

Also I would love for the Arena/Colosseum or whatever it is to get taken care of so we can win the hand of our fair centaur war maiden, Alante. She's in the area. But I'll wait for it.
 
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I admit, coming out of Mayternity my biggest disappointment was that we didn't get anymore movement on scenes with Brint/Brienne's family. Like, Brienne is trying to sell me on making her little sister and mother into my babymommas too, and I thought with the focus on Khor'minos, that would come (or at least the teased threesome). Guess we'll be waiting a while longer.

Like I don't want to diminish any of what we got. It's good. I'm just disappointed.

Also I would love for the Arena/Colosseum or whatever it is to get taken care of so we can win the hand of our fair centaur war maiden, Alante. She's in the area. But I'll wait for it.
On the topic of wives, I do not like how Kiyoko's very existence pretty much necessitates that I always do her path. I absolutely love Kiyoko and all of the kitsune content, it is my very favorite part of the game, but I always feel completely railroaded into completing her path every single time. I just cannot stand the thought of abandoning her to an eternity of loneliness under any circumstances, and because of this I cannot even try to play a non-dicked run. Even just never touching the Kitsune content doesn't work because I know she is still waiting.

There should be alternative options to helping her out without completely committing to romance, and I can think of a few reasonable ones off the top of my head:

1. You break the orb, killing her forever but allowing her escape from eternal loneliness.

2. An option to disable the content and just say that she died 250 years ago to clear our conscience.

3. Bringing the amulet to Komari and Keros just after discovering Kiyoko, and having an option to donate part of your soul in a non-sexual way. Kiyoko then becomes a non-romancible side character and locks out most of the Kitsune content but at least you can feel good about yourself.

Until something like this happens I can't even try to play without saving her, it just feels cruel.
 

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If you find the amulet and take it to Komari without impregnating Kiyoko, you can leave the amulet with Keros. He will be annoyed at you, but accepts the amulet and presumably takes care of things. She doesn't become a character in the game, but conscience is cleared.

Or, alternatively, you can use the ghostlight magicock from Evergreen to impregnate Kiyoko. This functionality was added to make Kiyoko more accessible.
 

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Why is there no option setting to prefer anal/vaginal for scenes where the option isn't provided? Some characters when you sex with them as a submissive male/shemale, you get an anal scene, but when you go into the same scene with female genitalia, you get a vaginal sex scene. Why can't you choose the anal scene if your character has a vagina? Some examples of this are Arona and Brint - but I'm certain I've seen this elsewhere as well. Also, I'm not talking about specific loss-scenes where the player wouldn't get to choose as a narrative restriction (although I personally would like to have something like a vagina with chastity piercings specifically to force anal-scenes in such a case too!)

The content is more-or-less already there in some cases, just inaccessible without me playing as a shemale character, even if I'd prefer to play as a female character.

Just saying, not all vaginas prefer vaginal over anal =S
I'm sure Sariel would agree!
 

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It feels like after the combat rework everything has drastically increased evade. I can't hit a goddamn thing, every single attack misses more than half the time early game, and then when you finally hit it does a middling amount of damage that might just get healed away, I'm glad there aren't too many things with heals early on.
 

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Why is there no option setting to prefer anal/vaginal for scenes where the option isn't provided? Some characters when you sex with them as a submissive male/shemale, you get an anal scene, but when you go into the same scene with female genitalia, you get a vaginal sex scene. Why can't you choose the anal scene if your character has a vagina? Some examples of this are Arona and Brint - but I'm certain I've seen this elsewhere as well. Also, I'm not talking about specific loss-scenes where the player wouldn't get to choose as a narrative restriction (although I personally would like to have something like a vagina with chastity piercings specifically to force anal-scenes in such a case too!)

The content is more-or-less already there in some cases, just inaccessible without me playing as a shemale character, even if I'd prefer to play as a female character.

Just saying, not all vaginas prefer vaginal over anal =S
I'm sure Sariel would agree!
have you tried toggling buttslut mode in the settings?

It feels like after the combat rework everything has drastically increased evade. I can't hit a goddamn thing, every single attack misses more than half the time early game, and then when you finally hit it does a middling amount of damage that might just get healed away, I'm glad there aren't too many things with heals early on.

would you be so kind as to post your save? I keep hearing things like this, but there's only a few things that should be benefitting from something like increased evade, and it'd be the result of them getting their stance activated at the start of the combat, so I wanna do testing with people's saves to figure out what's changed for them
 
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would you be so kind as to post your save? I keep hearing things like this, but there's only a few things that should be benefitting from something like increased evade, and it'd be the result of them getting their stance activated at the start of the combat, so I wanna do testing with people's saves to figure out what's changed for them
Here, I did edit in some TF's and sexual perks along with some money so I have to include the disclaimer that it may be because of those edits, but I feel like those'd be odd side effects. It might be because I'm currently using twin short swords so having to roll the hit twice makes things seem worse, but I feel like Cait and Brint are also missing more.
 

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I have one lil' gripe. I love that you can cuddle and have bedmates in the game. Cait can't officially be your bedmate but if you sex her at night time you can cuddle with her until morning. Why can't I just have her as a bedmate then? It serves almost the same purpose.

But more importantly: Why can't we skip the sex for once and just cuddle until morning? I just want someone to hold me But yeah. main gripe; not enough cuddling, emotional care and/or after care. I know that there is a lot of that content, but I want more of it.
 

Alypia

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I have one lil' gripe. I love that you can cuddle and have bedmates in the game. Cait can't officially be your bedmate but if you sex her at night time you can cuddle with her until morning. Why can't I just have her as a bedmate then? It serves almost the same purpose.

But more importantly: Why can't we skip the sex for once and just cuddle until morning? I just want someone to hold me But yeah. main gripe; not enough cuddling, emotional care and/or after care. I know that there is a lot of that content, but I want more of it.
Your chance of getting a non-sexual cuddle with Etheryn at night is higher if neither of you has blue balls when you go to bed (or wake up).
 

nottelling

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The wayfort has an option to choose bedmates... for camp and for the Frost Hound, but not for the wayfort itself.

Huh?
 

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The wayfort has an option to choose bedmates... for camp and for the Frost Hound, but not for the wayfort itself.

Huh?
Most of the sleepwiths have not been updated to account for the Wayfort yet. The only bedmates you can choose there at the moment are Etheryn and Daliza.
 

nottelling

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I know I have been griping a lot lately, but I swear I only have one more complaint.

Why aren't there more male sexable characters? Aimed at females and otherwise. CoC 1 and TiTS never seemed to have a shortage of dicks but CoC 2 is like the exact opposite of a sausage party, and most of the dicks are on women.
 

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Not enough interest judging by the Patreon poll they did and some other sources. And I think most of the writers are more interested I'm writing females and girls with dicks. Latter which are apparently very popular yet the supply does not seem to meat the demand. But yeah, compared to TiTS it seems little low.

Still, like can we just get male content aimed at most people interested in man than spreading ourselves thin. Repeating another Garret case is not really to anyones benefit.
 

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I know I have been griping a lot lately, but I swear I only have one more complaint.

Why aren't there more male sexable characters? Aimed at females and otherwise. CoC 1 and TiTS never seemed to have a shortage of dicks but CoC 2 is like the exact opposite of a sausage party, and most of the dicks are on women.
There are 65 sexable males compared to a measly 15 sexable ladies with dicks and 24 sexable futas.. put those two groups together and men still win out. It seems Pure female NPCs are in high demand at a whopping 129 being sexable.
 

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I think this might be an example of presence and a written illusion then, because it feels like a lot less than that. Maybe the sexable males just leave so little impression that they are forgettable?

After playing the game I could honestly only remember Brint, Garrett, and that one male lupine archer guy.
 

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Do you mean that fight that has 4 fucking button presses before oyu fight him? Cause if so of course id rememebr that guy.
 

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I think this might be an example of presence and a written illusion then, because it feels like a lot less than that. Maybe the sexable males just leave so little impression that they are forgettable?
As it appears to be, most have restrictions (Darius, Jin-Jin, Ninian, Liulfr) or are one-scene wonders (Svern, technically Hinata). Only Quin, Elyon, Elaril, possibly Dale and Boomer, the male kobolds and Takahiro seem to be readily available... and they all a bit "niche" in what they cover, Luck has it that male batfolk keep on evading my Champion :p

Honestly I'm honored that you remember him
Whenever I start a new game, he tends to be one of the first characters I wish to come across so as to get the Hip Quiver!
 
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Alypia

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I did make a few miscounts in that tally of 65; I counted two male NPCs with under-construction sex expansions (Leofric, Vitruvius) as sexable when they aren't yet, and failed to count the Corrupted Lupines as sexable when they are. The current number is 64.

Considerations when assessing these numbers:

I count all encounters with a bias toward uniqueness. As such, differently-named combat encounters that still have the same sex scenes get counted separately (e.g. the imps and upgraded imps) and distinct sex encounters do too (e.g. the minotaur gangbangs at Rose's inn and in the Khor'minos Outskirts). This also, of course, means that I include one-time-only (e.g. dungeon bosses) NPCs and combat encounters along with more developed recurring NPCs who just hang out in the same place and are down to fuck. However, this isn't unique to male NPCs; I do the same thing with female NPCs, whether they have a penis or not. You may note, for example, that "Katherine" is counted separately from Kasyrra, for some reason.

I also make no judgments about length of content or quality.

The list is also set up so that it counts a character's default parts and pronouns, although the spreadsheet itself notes all opportunities to change those around (e.g. in cases like Agnimitra, Eryka, Keros, Liulfr, and the Blood Knight). In addition, Lyric is not included because his/her parts and pronouns have no default, so you may count his male, bedicked form as a 65th gentleman. (The list counts Lyric's pronouns, dongus, and pussy all as "optional".)
Berwyn
Brint
Quin
Argoth
Behemoth
Boomer
Bruno
Dale
Darius
Elaril
Elyon
Fenraus
Garret
Imad
Jin-Jin
June
Keros
Khassid
Liulfr
Livernus
Mallach
Nikol
Ninian
Nyze
Pavo
Philander
Rooh
Rroljar
Sugo
Svern
Takahiro
Vaush
Vicky
Yonzan
Avanai Rider
Bat Bandit (male)
Centaur Packleader
Centaur Marauder
Corrupted Lupine
Crazy Horse
Cultist Demontaur
Cultist Psion
Elf Boy
Gnoll Raider
Harem Spirit (male)
Hobgoblin (male)
Hornet Drone
Imp
Imp Lord
Imp Shanker
Imp Warlock
Jerk Merc
Jotun (male)
Kitsune Protector
Kitsune Spellblade
Lupine Archer (Faolan)
Minotaur Guard (Rooh encounter)
Minotaur Soldiers (Inn gangbang)
Minotaur Soldiers (Outskirts gangbang)
Orc Apprentice
Orc Thane
Orc Warrior
Siorcanna Hunter
Statue (male)
Undermountain Kobold (male)
Undermountain Minominer
For the record, the similar list of bedongus-ed ladies:
Arona
Etheryn
Anna
Aurera
Caera
Edessari
Eryka
Evelyn
Fritte
Hashat
Jael'yn
Kaina
Kasyrra
Katherine
Klemaia
Lyla
Oxana
Mara
Meira
Morwen
Naiyana
Nareva
Nieves
Orlaith
Sandre
Synneva
Syrish
Tarandra
Vacia
Valencia
Wredi
Yani
Cultist Barghest
Effigy Pollinator
Fountain Goddess
Frost Pupper
Harem Spirit (half-sexed)
Manticore Girl
Siorcanna Alpha
Statue (herm)
EDIT: Naturally, less than fifteen minutes elapsed between this post and Aunora/Ikora coming out for backers. This throws the "women-with-penises" count off by one.
 
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EDIT: Naturally, less than fifteen minutes elapsed between this post and Aunora/Ikora coming out for backers. This throws the "women-with-penises" count off by one.
At this point its uncanny, everytime this come up I swear within the next few hours a version drop happens lol.
 

Alypia

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Out of curiosity, @Alypia, is there a reason why Benny wasn't included? Too "feral", perhaps?
If you mean why not in the sexable list, it's "not bad end only", like Tide Hunter was saying. :) If you mean why not on the spreadsheet as a whole, I just forgot about him as a distinct character. Sorry!
 

Kesil

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Hey, there's no need to apologise. I just happen to like Benny, but, as I have never really interacted with the pal during my playthroughs, I didn't really know if there were any bad ends to his name.
 
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