Makes sense, and it amuses me to wonder if they have a betting pool going at the tree as to whether my next visit is an actual visit or if I will just pop out of the void for 5 seconds to switch teleport networks and go somewhere else.
Your gripes with CoC II
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I have a feeling if the floofs are doing anything, it's snickering that the Champ is too lazy to walk the tremendously long distance between Hawkethorne and the house. Okay, looking at travel times it does appear to be a three hour hike or so but something something back in the Old Country they walked uphill both ways in a blizzard. 
As an aside, I don't think I've ever visited the den without at least stopping to see what Kohaku has in stock that day so if there was a betting pool, someone would clean up handily until they noticed the pattern. Probably Kohaku.
As an aside, I don't think I've ever visited the den without at least stopping to see what Kohaku has in stock that day so if there was a betting pool, someone would clean up handily until they noticed the pattern. Probably Kohaku.
I just had an image of the last Blockbuster Video store located next to a bus stop.Employee: "Someone's getting off the bus!"
Manager: "Really?!"
Employee: "Aaaand they're getting right back on the next one."
Manager: "Awwwwww!"
I can imagine Kohaku setting up a gambling booth outside the shrine and playing "Guess when the native appears"
Depending on the Champ's interactions, I can see him setting up a Whack-A-Mole type game at the shrine.
"Step right up, take your shot at Whack-A-Champ!"
Follow up: I was looking at this word document thing in another thread that seems to have all the dream events and apparently I just didn't get events where you can do things like train her to crush her enemies and see them driven before her because of RNG luck on the dream scenes prior to getting around to freeing her. Guess its my characters fault for rushing to free them after I thought 'surely I must be getting close to running out of scenes by now anyway, right? (I was very very wrong there, there were apparently so many more left lol) Might as well hurry it up now that IC I found a clue to go to the giant tree to free them'. I guess next time I'll have to keep them trapped in a magical bauble for longer while metagaming to avoid that knowledge so at least my character isn't an asshole keeping them in longer then needed <_<
In one save I held off visiting the magic tree for 100+ days so I could get Kiyoko up to nine tails, which was totally worth it for Keros's "dude, respect" when Kiyoko and her 32 kits are spawned out of the Astral Plane. I wonder how long you'd have to keep waiting to get every scene?
And in a 'gripe' - though not really a gripe because I'm well aware of where the fandom generally sits on this issue - everyone's penises are too damn big. Quin's packing 11.5 inches, Arona's got a footlong, Brint's over there with a fucking mac truck between his legs. Even Etheryn's tragically shrunk junk is still around the human average at 4 inches. I don't know what magic people in Savarra are using that Brint can sleep with humans, elves, and catfolk without literally breaking them but it must be the good stuff.
Don't mind me, I'm just stuffing my character's faces with blue eggs so they don't feel inadequate.
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So, according to this helpful post by Emerald, it seems you can force the dream sequence events with Kinu to trigger. There are 13 events ("The Prodigy" event being two parts), meaning 14 events in total. I'm unsure if all of the events (some account for Kinu's siblings) trigger even without Kinu having siblings. I'm going to work with the assumption that they do.
As far as I can tell, it takes 3 visits with Kiyoko to result in Kinu being born (1 for initial visit, 1 for sexing her and then the last 1 for the birth), so, taking that into account - wanting to get all the event scenes with Kinu as quickly as possible would theoretically take 17 days (by my estimates).
As mentioned though, this is done with the assumption that the some of the events still trigger without Kinu having siblings - and additionally doesn't account for any holiday scenes taking preference.
Spoiler tag used to not affect the page spacing for other peoples posts. Seeing as I'm editing this quite a few hours after I initially posted - I don't want to mess up anyone else's posts.
The siblings assumption proved wrong upon testing. Testing reflected that 8/13 or rather 9/14 events can be gotten without Kinu having siblings.
Additionally, it actually takes Kiyoko 6 visits (from initial visit to birth) to give birth to Kinu (assuming you're speeding her gestation period up by sexing her).
This then means that in actuality it would take 17 visits at a minimum for Kinu to have had all the non-sibling related events (including the weapon selection one) - which as mentioned before would be 8/13 or 9/14 events (depending on your viewpoint).
Uncertain of how many visits it would take to get every event, but from what little testing I did on that front, it seems you need at least 4 / 5 kits to trigger the majority of the sibling events - "Beauty Advice" being the only exception. Unsure of the exact requirements for that one, but potentially Kiyoko having 9 tails - in reference to what Emerald said in their post
Apologies for editing this so long after I posted it initially (as well as it being quite a lengthy edit) - but I was just hoping to correct errors I had in my post.
The siblings assumption proved wrong upon testing. Testing reflected that 8/13 or rather 9/14 events can be gotten without Kinu having siblings.
Additionally, it actually takes Kiyoko 6 visits (from initial visit to birth) to give birth to Kinu (assuming you're speeding her gestation period up by sexing her).
This then means that in actuality it would take 17 visits at a minimum for Kinu to have had all the non-sibling related events (including the weapon selection one) - which as mentioned before would be 8/13 or 9/14 events (depending on your viewpoint).
Uncertain of how many visits it would take to get every event, but from what little testing I did on that front, it seems you need at least 4 / 5 kits to trigger the majority of the sibling events - "Beauty Advice" being the only exception. Unsure of the exact requirements for that one, but potentially Kiyoko having 9 tails - in reference to what Emerald said in their post
Apologies for editing this so long after I posted it initially (as well as it being quite a lengthy edit) - but I was just hoping to correct errors I had in my post.
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That's one of the reasons I have yet to create a thread on measures like I did for TiTS' - I feel almost everyone has absurd measures!
We've talked about a Steal skill before but it's a relatively High Effort endeavor.
Out of simple curiosity, by high effort do you mean "we'll do it eventually but not now" or "It's a bit too complicated so we decided against it?"
Or "haven't quite decided yet?"
High Effort just means it'd take a lot of work to come up with/maintain theft tables for all the enemies forever. Because of that, we haven't done it.
The official line is that it's the magic of fun overriding realism. Though a couple characters like Fritte and Kasyrra do explicitly know how to cast 'Make It Fit', possibly as some kind of prestige class feat...
Also, I think Ryn's size is actually going to be an asset for her: Just imagine how eager she's going to be once the cage comes off and she wants to finally use her royal sceptre. If she were packing a polearm under her skirt she'd probably faint from all that blood migrating south for the first time in forever.
Doesn't Ryn have dialogue where she says she shrunk it to try and get out of the cage? Who knows how big she previously was.
She does in her 'Alchemy?' option, but she says that it wasn't very big even before she tried shrinking her penis so it was probably something like six inches to start.
It's been explained like 20 times in various threads and blog comments.
Quick search only brings up me, so if no one else is taking credit...
But seriously, you could say that about any Great RPG that really earns the RP aspect. CoC1 was along the same themes; For all its faults, I liked how it felt so organic in motivating you to corrupting yourself through the mechanics and narrative.
That was also one of the two ways I thought of resolving this tension in a satisfying way. The other would be a fight, but that's another can of worms to sort out. A sparring match where the ideal solution is to lose would be cool, though; a "nothing more to teach" moment.
Let's not overestimate the amount of work he'd have to do here. For all I've read about his dislike of "false choices", I still think it's worth it for the game to ask what amounts to a binary "do you get it?" and railroad your character to the scene accordingly; enthusiastic consent and all that. But I also like the Perfectly Fine way that studios like Telltale went about it, so take me for what that's worth.
Could always have two targets come up at once and require a party split moment where the PC entrusts Kinu and her party to go after Raphael and bring his head back on a pike while the PC and their party goes after whoever (some of his backers, maybe?) instead of insisting that either the PC or Kiyoko go along with Kinu. Though maybe thats something that might be done after the tension is resolved otherwise and as proof that 'yep, I'm definitely for real cool with you taking this as a rite of passage thing like we went over earlier and not fighting you on it'.
I was kind of surprised the black mage ultimate only explodes some of the things and otherwise just removes things from combat for 2 rounds. Not sure its a gripe exactly, just kind of surprised to see a black mage type class not get a nuke for their ultimate.
Here's one of my only gripes so far: the ovipositor eggings are anal-only. Mostly I have issue with two Azzyran scenes(because they start good but I have issues by the end), including the 3some with her queen, and there's a line that Azzyran "can't implant eggs into your womb", and I'm like "...Why?". Why, is that a hornet people taboo? She can squirt a gallon of lube in there so the champion's belly bloats, but not eggs? And in the "Suck and Ride" scene the ovipositor is already in the champion's pussy but she's like "No no, I have to switch it to my asshole for the eggs", I don't understand the insistence on that. I'm just saying a variation would be nice.
Isn't there more room in a womb? And it can stretch too. I get it if the hornets catch someone with no pussy, and they have no choice, but why always only buttholes? A womb seems like a more secure place for your eggs and more difficult to get rid of the eggs. And what, do the victims' guts get completely blocked up for almost 2 weeks? Sounds both painful and dangerous to their health, don't tell me anyone would agree to it willingly.
Actually, the whole hornet/bee overcomplicated lifecycle in both games is just s...silly. It's bonkers. What an awful way to come into the world by the way, born from a stranger's sphincter. Just dump the eggs in a corner of the palace if the queen doesn't want to carry them, in fact I just started wondering why can't their eggs "come to term" in the workers' insect abdomens. They're carrying them around anyway....
Isn't there more room in a womb? And it can stretch too. I get it if the hornets catch someone with no pussy, and they have no choice, but why always only buttholes? A womb seems like a more secure place for your eggs and more difficult to get rid of the eggs. And what, do the victims' guts get completely blocked up for almost 2 weeks? Sounds both painful and dangerous to their health, don't tell me anyone would agree to it willingly.
Actually, the whole hornet/bee overcomplicated lifecycle in both games is just s...silly. It's bonkers. What an awful way to come into the world by the way, born from a stranger's sphincter. Just dump the eggs in a corner of the palace if the queen doesn't want to carry them, in fact I just started wondering why can't their eggs "come to term" in the workers' insect abdomens. They're carrying them around anyway....
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It's likely the eggs require some form of incubation until shortly before they hatch; inside a body is a much more stable environment than out in the open, and babies need a stable environment during their early stages of development (and inside the egg by itself might not be stable enough). Simply dumping the eggs like you suggested would likely result in them dying. As for the rest, I have no answer/explanation other than "maybe it's just some cultural BS". The only points of comparison I have are the nyrea and bothrioc from TiTS, but a) they don't have the same problems and b) using TiTS as a basis for what to expect from CoC2 is fallacious.
It's because butt eggies are what the people who write those scenes are most interested in. Plus, they're parts-agnostic.
Brint's weapons seem to largely be made out of iron, steel, or some other grey metal, excluding the axe's sharp part and some of the smaller details. This feels odd, considering that most of the world, excluding the Kitsune country, uses bronze weaponry.
Put it down to artistic license.Brint's weapons seem to largely be made out of iron, steel, or some other grey metal, excluding the axe's sharp part and some of the smaller details. This feels odd, considering that most of the world, excluding the Kitsune country, uses bronze weaponry.
Yeah, it's the same story with why the Mercs have headshots showing armor made out of different metals when they all should be using bronze, artistic license. If a character is actually using iron or steel, the text will draw attention to it.
The kitsunes use bronze because it is easier to work than steel and it is cheaper, even so I want to assume that they only use it for tools or basic weapons, even so Nakano's Katana has to be made of steel by necessity, Khorminos seems to be or have been masters in architecture, I do not see why they could not have rescued the steelmaking of their past times
Architecture generally isn't a question of steel before the late nineteenth century.
The floofs use iron because they lack ready sources of tin for bronze. One of the reasons behind the establishment of their Greater North Savarra Co-Prosperity Sphere was to secure
To elaborate, if we're drawing any analogues to tin in real life, it's pretty damned rare to begin with, as rare as uranium.
Malaysia got really prosperous (for the region, anyway) because of the fact it was the richest source of tin in the whole world for a good while. That, and natural rubber.
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