Your gripes with CoC II
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Guess we'll be waiting a while then. What are the chances we have to wait until near the endgame to deal with Alissa?
Actually, if you advance the plot you'll find out where she is and it's not around Khor'minos proper but an island that used to be a holding of the boer'alvar. That said, Alissa's associated quest is linked to your progression with the Khor'minos plotline so even if the two are treated as separate quests they're probably going to have somewhat parallel development because of the links between them. You advance both quests when you discover the evidence of where Alissa is but you get the ship that's meant to transport you to Alissa's location as part of The Siege of Khor'minos, rather than the Alissa-centric Demon of Ice.
Now once we deal with Alissa and (presumably, Savin surely wouldn't troll us twice here... right?) get the means to remove Ryn's cage, whether we can finally give Ryn's royal sceptre the treatment it deserves or Savin follows through on this idea and makes us go through one last quest is something only he knows.
Now once we deal with Alissa and (presumably, Savin surely wouldn't troll us twice here... right?) get the means to remove Ryn's cage, whether we can finally give Ryn's royal sceptre the treatment it deserves or Savin follows through on this idea and makes us go through one last quest is something only he knows.
Well in fairness I can imagine it will take some time for her to get used to being able to get erect, and she still seems to be very submissive sexually. At least for me, it wouldn't really change anything unless they gave us a pregnancy by Ryn.
Savin would 100% troll us. The only question is how he's planning to do it.
My money's on Alissa not having her soul on her person or anywhere near her and we only find out after we've gone through everything to beat her.
Well maybe not the latter part of that sentence but since she appears to be hiding a battering ram under that skirt, she's probably quite eager to give the 'fuck you Champ' portion a go...
She'll be getting a double battering ram instead. And then a scythe.
Jokes on her I have my weapons fuck around and find out, though my money is on a certain bastard saving her like they did the general.
Yeah, I really wish there was a dialogue option when you talk to Jael'yn that the only reason she is still alive is because my elf waif pleaded for her to be spared, and had she not, I'd have killed her without sparing it a thought. Help her realize just how thin the ice she's on, from the perspective of an actual person and not a porn game protagonist bound by 'But Thou Must'.
The only actual complaint I have about this game is the way it seems to flip between "blob PC" and "established character" when it comes to moral decisions. I think it's most prevalent in the Rift and GweyrQuest, where things end up feeling a lot more linear than the rest of the game to the point that it feels disconnected from the main story. Hearing Gweyr's side of the slaughter and only having 2 quick dialogue options that give the most basic "Yeah you're a monster" or "No you're in the right despite your monstrous actions" to an inherently and intentionally nuanced decision makes me wonder why this was included in the game if it wasn't going to be explored in more than a few linear dialogue options with Sanders and her family.
Obviously if you're writing a main character in a TF game with several different personality types there just isn't enough time in the day to add a variant for every bit of dialogue, so my criticism isn't about the PC having a 'voice', it's about how it feels like the darkest part of the game is a half-baked slice of surface level shock value that thinks it's deeper than it is.
I fucking love it when any kind of art medium challenges my way of thinking and makes me reflect on my beliefs and why I hold them, and a situation as grey as Gweyr's is the perfect way to do just that. The issue comes from the complete lack of actual discussion. You can talk to Garth about it, but it's a set conversation with set arguments. My champ can't really pick a side, he can't approach the topic a different way, and when he reunites the old wolf with her family he always ends up giving some quasi-moralizing speech about how their family has to get their shit together. I had different motivations for bringing Gweyr back to Hawkthorne, but the game assumes that I want to be involved in their drama when I only wanted my buddy Garrett to have a chance to have a mother. Instead of playing a character, I was reading the author's thoughts on the debate.
Any open-ended presentation on morality falls flat when you aren't given the voice or choice to explore those questions in a meaningful way. The medium of video games are inherently interactive with so much more potential to connect to the audience than a TV show or book and it does nothing with that potential. In the end, I know a lot of content just isn't going to get a lot of depth because there's only so many hours in a day, it's just disappointing that the topic the game chose to address is hardly addressed at all.
I should also clarify that this isn't a dig at Tobs or his writing. That's all the criticism I've got, still fucking love this game.
Obviously if you're writing a main character in a TF game with several different personality types there just isn't enough time in the day to add a variant for every bit of dialogue, so my criticism isn't about the PC having a 'voice', it's about how it feels like the darkest part of the game is a half-baked slice of surface level shock value that thinks it's deeper than it is.
I fucking love it when any kind of art medium challenges my way of thinking and makes me reflect on my beliefs and why I hold them, and a situation as grey as Gweyr's is the perfect way to do just that. The issue comes from the complete lack of actual discussion. You can talk to Garth about it, but it's a set conversation with set arguments. My champ can't really pick a side, he can't approach the topic a different way, and when he reunites the old wolf with her family he always ends up giving some quasi-moralizing speech about how their family has to get their shit together. I had different motivations for bringing Gweyr back to Hawkthorne, but the game assumes that I want to be involved in their drama when I only wanted my buddy Garrett to have a chance to have a mother. Instead of playing a character, I was reading the author's thoughts on the debate.
Any open-ended presentation on morality falls flat when you aren't given the voice or choice to explore those questions in a meaningful way. The medium of video games are inherently interactive with so much more potential to connect to the audience than a TV show or book and it does nothing with that potential. In the end, I know a lot of content just isn't going to get a lot of depth because there's only so many hours in a day, it's just disappointing that the topic the game chose to address is hardly addressed at all.
I should also clarify that this isn't a dig at Tobs or his writing. That's all the criticism I've got, still fucking love this game.
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This is definitely something we've learned from and mean to improve on in future products.
On a related note, I wish there were some way to prompt the events where we suddenly take control of Kinu and influence her personality. Because I never know when they're going to proc or how they decide it's time to trigger and couldn't tell how the answers I give affect her until I read a guide. Plus until the second time I freed her and Kiyoko and her 31 siblings I didn't even realise there was a chance for her to have a different personality than the one she had the first time.
You can force it to trigger by constant moving back and forth between the central tile and one of the other tiles, though you can't really choose to not trigger it.
I have a big issue with lactation on my female characters. Pregnancy inevitably results in breasts QQ cup or something ridiculous. Is there anyway to cap the size of boobs before they balloon into bean bag chairs? (No, I won't practice safe sex, don't slut shame me.)
First answer: blue eggs alchemically refined with wild melons will reduce cup size. There's no way to cap cup size.
Follow-up answer: Lactation and pregnancy on their own should not be increasing cup size by that much. For most players, it's almost impossible to get past J without using something like the Hornet Ring, even with boob-focused TFs items. Passive gains purely from pregnancy and lactation shouldn't push Champ's booba to that size, and I would be very surprised if there wasn't some other contributor (like the aforementioned Hornet Ring).
I think wery was talking about the demonic general you (can?) find leading the smugglers in Undermountain, that you can't kill because if you try they get saved by the Faceless Blade kitsune.
I... think there's specific mention of foxyness when the Faceless Blade saves the general, but I won't swear by it. They could be.
EDIT: On the other hand, there might have been a mention of multiple tails instead, and my mind immediately went to "kitsune." It DOES make more narrative sense for the FB to be a kitty, as it parallels with your own kitty-cait lieutenant.
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So, is game implying that Cait is going to have children with some stranger if champion does not have a dick? Is that what the game is implying with her whole thick expansion and "I would like you to grow the dick, my champion." I hope not, just seems mean to certain subset of playerbase.
Edit: Also, suggesting the growth of a dick to the player that obviously is playing a character without one because they want to is just a great experience.
Edit: Also, suggesting the growth of a dick to the player that obviously is playing a character without one because they want to is just a great experience.
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Savin's been clear that Cait isn't getting pregnancy content. Maybe in an epilogue she has kids, but it's not gonna happen in the game proper.
The way it is worded seems like an epilogue outcome.
That does not make it better tho. Cait getting bred in the epilogue by a stranger/other friends because players did not want to grow a dick seems short sighted. And I am only talking in vain if champion pursued Cait as love interest. If not, than they do not care what she does. But if they did, that just seems mean
Still, I hope that this is just a mess up in conveying the meaning behind her hints thay my female NPC "could grow a dick so that she could breed her." Still find it little worrying that this is second time that this is happening with our companion (downplaying the vagina having players) this year but what can you do.
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