Your gripes with CoC II

[Animalistic]

Stop telling fucking lies, dude. This is the last time I'll tell you.

At no point does Leofric just "roam around raping". You continue to lie and not know anything you are fucking talking about. The mercs don't disband and NO ENDING made them do so, even the one on the concept docs where he turns evil (which in itself is vastly out of date). It's lies like this that are why I had to explain/showcase how inaccurate and/or out-of-date this shit is just yesterday.

At no point was there a bad end where Jen "blamed you" because the only continued-play corrupt event was the ORIGINAL bad end for Leofric, which is where you WILLINGLY corrupt him. You obviously didn't fucking read the context, though, as he doesn't SERVE you in even that writing. At no point were you his master/commander.

So kindly STFU and stop telling lies. You're paraphrasing everything I say and you're STILL not even being accurate. Like shit, you literally have people explaining it to you that it's not what you think/assume it is (keypoint on ASS because you're just the biggest one ever anytime you post). So many people on the forums are believing you when you don't even proof your shit or ask me on Discord. Stop spewing your BS.

Every doc on the mercenaries except their ORIGINAL PITCH document are available. And this BAD END where he turns into a monster is because YOU MAKE HIM INTO THAT MONSTER. You. The Player. And it is an end condition that is non-canon. So his terrible actions are because YOU are terrible when you topple him to the dark side, despite countless warnings about it.

It's just like how people ASSUME he's immortal because I mention he ages SLOWER. Not that he DOESN'T AGE. But fuck, I can't wait to hear/see you're doing the exact same shit all over again.

Wait, it got updated? Thank you and sorry for miss judging. I am going to read it.
About that immortality thing, I should have wrote indestructible. Since, as you said, we can never really defeat him since he can nit be damaged by conventional means. He will just take pittance on us. Which does seem lame.

 

[Paradox01]

Wait, it got updated? Thank you.

 

[BubbleLord]

Wait, it got updated? Thank you and sorry for miss judging. I am going to read it.
About that immortality thing, I should have wrote indestructible. Since, as you said, we can never really defeat him since he can nit be damaged by conventional means. He will just take pittance on us. Which does seem lame.

Except for decapitation (a fatal blow) and magic are all useful against him, whilst conventional damage (stabbing non-vitals, bleeding out, etc) don't work but mechanically will work in-game due to balance, albeit they will do reduced damage.

He doesn't "take pittance"; he doesn't pity you but respects your skill and ability, which is why he stops fighting. Again, assuming makes a BIG ASS out of you.

Edit: for reference, none of this is "changes". This has all been designed and intended from the very start, at the very least from when he was started (basically a year and a half ago now, now, I think)

 

[Animalistic]

Except for decapitation (a fatal blow) and magic are all useful against him, whilst conventional damage (stabbing non-vitals, bleeding out, etc) don't work but mechanically will work in-game due to balance, albeit they will do reduced damage.

I would think that in world where magic is commonplace that it would also fall under conventional means. So I thought you needed to do some really abstract stuff or something.

He doesn't "take pittance"; he doesn't pity you but respects your skill and ability, which is why he stops fighting. Again, assuming makes a BIG ASS out of you.

If you say so. To me that still sounds like when your older brother lets you beat him in a game. Which does kind of lessen the joy of fighting him (if we have to). But that is how I view victory. But as you said context matters.

Edit: Where can I find the doc?

 

[Wint3rRyd3r]

I'm glad. Got a little worried there. I do look like an idiot now but I'm happy to have been wrong and just got misinformation.

decapitation will kill him

Every doc on the mercenaries except their ORIGINAL PITCH document are available.

I'd like to apologize for believing misinformation with no proof and continuing on without being able to verify it. That is a serious mistake on my part and I'm sorry. You're probably stressed and overworked enough without having to come and deal with misinterpreted information getting spread around and I'm sorry for being a cause of that.

 

[Animalistic]

So where is that doc? Can anyone post it?

 

[sumgai]

On Bubble's Pateron. Probably

Pay now, my lord

 

[Animalistic]

On Bubble's Pateron. Probably

Pay now, my lord

Nope, I am going to wait and see. I read some thing on discord. And I have to say, I hope that I understood this right. That we are going to be able to disband the mercs or something similar. Because seriously, screw them.

The reason why I am wondering this is because apparently, almost every named merc will have expansion. But we can apparently be locked out from them. And once again, screw them.
Also, I do wish all that information was somewhere in one place. I hate searching around discord.

 

[WolframL]

I read some thing on discord.

Not very carefully, it seems...

 

[Wint3rRyd3r]

On Bubble's Pateron. Probably

Pay now, my lord

I think I just got a flashback to old ads that made me feel skeevy. In the sea of sultan/king scam games, none hold a candle to those early days where they weren't even trying to hide their motives.

 

[Animalistic]

Not very carefully, it seems...

To be fair, you try using that site. It gets annoying reading, even with smart search, all useless facts to get to important information. Especially with how memme it gets.

Like, can information not be put in one place? Besides that, I hope I am right this time. If I am mistaken please correct me.

 

[Kesil]

I think I just got a flashback to old ads that made me feel skeevy.

Evony, right...?

 

[Stupid_Goo]

That we are going to be able to disband the mercs or something similar. Because seriously, screw them.

But we can apparently be locked out from them. And once again, screw them.

Damn, what did Boomer and Lusamine do to you?

 

[Animalistic]

Damn, what did Boomer and Lusamine do to you?

Try to rape me than act all buddy buddy. My annoyance comes from feeling like game sees nothing wrong with it. Now, this is not exclusive to them. Many others, like Kitsune and Tanukis (game adm have this problem. And it is equally as shity there.
But mercs also have the problem of just being unlikable to me. From our character saying "maybe this bunch of rapists are not all that bad. Maybe there is good in them". To Lusamine "only wanting dick expect when Cait is involved" thing. To Jen being just worst leaders of mercs money can buy. They did about as much damage as damn Orcs.To now learning that we can never beat Leofric. That only reason we can "win" against him is because "he sees some worth in us". Which is a pity victory to me no matter the context. Just make him so tough late gane boss or something.

So yeah, that is my whole problem. They are the worst example of what game likes to do with bunch of its combat encounters.

 

[SmithEK]

After playing the latest Mayternity backer patch I'm kinda disappointed in how CoC2 handles pregnancy content. With TiTs some of the NPCs that impregnate Steele actually acknowledge the pregnancy and some of the NPCs that Steele impregnate warn Steele when or if they have had the children. CoC2 doesn't, Brienne, Kiyoko and Arona kinda do but NPCs like Gwen and Elthara (I know she's a new one but it lacks something) don't.

 

[Wint3rRyd3r]

Damn, what did Boomer and Lusamine do to you?

They poisoned our water supply, burned our crops, and delivered a plague unto our houses.

Well, no. But are we just gonna wait around until they do?

 

[Animalistic]

They poisoned our water supply, burned our crops, and delivered a plague unto our houses.

Well, no. But are we just gonna wait around until they do?

If you are going to quote something, do it correctly.

 

[Wint3rRyd3r]

If you are going to quote something, do it correctly.

The mercenaries are a group. Plural forms are used for groups. And I don't feel like waiting for someone to respond to deliver the punchline. I don't see why there's a problem with using an old SpongeBob quote for humor and changing the structure a bit. And correctly? We literally just angered BubbleLord yesterday because of information you misread and, in hindsight, never even properly cited. I may still agree with your sentiments on the mercenaries, but stones and glass houses and all that.

 

[Animalistic]

The mercenaries are a group. Plural forms are used for groups. And I don't feel like waiting for someone to respond to deliver the punchline. I don't see why there's a problem with using an old SpongeBob quote for humor and changing the structure a bit. And correctly? We literally just angered BubbleLord yesterday because of information you misread and, in hindsight, never even properly cited. I may still agree with your sentiments on the mercenaries, but stones and glass houses and all that.

No I mean, it does not work without "They did?" In the middle. Almost all good jokes come in threes.

 

[Wint3rRyd3r]

No I mean, it does not work without "They did?" In the middle. Almost all good jokes come in threes.

It does lack that. But I didn't want to wait for someone to do so. I wanted to use the clip but my computer is having trouble with YouTube today. I think it still works, but it does fell like it's missing something

 

[Animalistic]

It does lack that. But I didn't want to wait for someone to do so. I wanted to use the clip but my computer is having trouble with YouTube today. I think it still works, but it does fell like it's missing something

It does loose a lot of its charm and comedic timing. If I did not know the source, I would be majorly lost.

 

[Muted_ReDead]

Try to rape me than act all buddy buddy.

I mean, this is still Corruption of Champions. That's more or less how things work around here, you beat the snot out of people and then have some fun with them, the MCs in these games have befriended NPCs just the same way. I can see a Dark Knight PC being vindictive about it, but even so it's an unspoken rule in this universe. Certain concessions will be made due to being a porn game.

 

[Wint3rRyd3r]

Certain concessions will be made due to being a porn game.

That's fair but it's also a story driven game. To me there are 2 groups of characters.

Ones I can make concessions for, for example:

1. Lusina. Grew up in the wild after losing her family. Likely has a skewed view on relationships
2. Kitsune. Need to feed to live and take a transactional view of feeding and sex. Likely view their attempts to force feed as a robbery and not rape as a result.
3. Drider queen. Winter driders are rare apparently and the only 2 we see are in dangerous areas. She's probably trying to propagate a potentially endangered species and is using fights as an interview process on who gets to help.

Then there's group 2. The ones that, in a story driven game, I can't make concessions for. Examples are:

1. Imps. They're rape monsters. I mean that's pretty much what they literally are. That and fodder.
2. The Kervus tribe. Their society culture are based on raping and pillaging. And unless I missed some lore, it's not a biological need to bust a nut or they implode.
3.Crazy horses. Again, rape monsters. A tragic fate but that doesn't change their indescrimant attacks

The marks fall squarely into group 2. They're leader wonders off and their second in command focuses on searching for him. What do the rank and file do? Attack everyone, including people they were meant to help and then act like they're doing nothing wrong and run to mommy Jen. A porn game does need a bit more suspension of disbelief yes. But this is still a story and character driven game and some don't like group 2. The thing is unlike Kervus, which we can let benny destroy or ignore after their quest, or the imps which are purely a combat encounter, the merks are a bit harder to avoid. They wonder around Hawkethorne. And it's the ones who attack us. Maybe being the player and getting the brunt makes me biased, but I just can't make excuses for them.

Also I posted this from my phone so sorry for any format and spelling mistakes. Unless it's funny. Then it was intended.

 

[Stupid_Goo]

In the Mercs' perspective, try talking to Cait about Boomer (what little she has to say about him, the rare chance he pops up randomly when you go see her in the Frost Hound) ; as for Lusamine... well, she's just a closet sl00t who can't admit she likes a rough fucking - or that's how I see it when you spam Gossip talking to her in the Hound and suddenly Cait vs Lusamine.
And you really only find Lusamine and Boomer in Hawkethorne... that I've found.

I'd waifu Lusina if she'd just let me.
Imps? Unless they're NOT rape monsters or adamant on being hardass merchants (looking at you, Lumi), I'm not really into them. I've found maybe one or two imps that were pretty cool, but only when they weren't walking gangbang traps.

If I recall correctly, Kervus tribe is the orcs, yes? They understand quite well that they can just as easily receive what they give, which is beating the shit out of people, pillaging and kidnapping what and who they deem fit to - not that that would stop them from doing it from what they perceive as survival.
The Cait - crazy horse scene is amusing to me, mostly did out of curiosity and the constant mention of a rigid meatpole barely hidden by whatever passed as a loincloth for him.

 

[Wint3rRyd3r]

And you really only find Lusamine and Boomer in Hawkethorne... that I've found.

Janeen is in the gym. She's the victory scissor option from the encounter with the merks. I actually haven't seen any Boomer scenes but from what I've read, he sounds naïve and probably is being pressured by the others. That's just me guessing though.

If I recall correctly, Kervus tribe is the orcs, yes? They understand quite well that they can just as easily receive what they give, which is beating the shit out of people, pillaging and kidnapping what and who they deem fit to - not that that would stop them from doing it from what they perceive as survival.

Their actions go way beyond trying to survive. They're taking slaves and attacking innocents. And just because they don't hate being on the receiving end doesn't excuse the fact that they're still trying to force it on their victims. I can count on one finger the amount of Kervus members that don't disgust me. It's Rags. Her motives may be utilitarian but that makes her way better than the rest of Kervus.

The Cait and horse scene was funny though.

The Cait

Youtube's working for me now.

 

[Tahki]

I know it has probably been mentioned but so many half breed races imma flip out if the new bear tf is human based as well. I really just want to find the bastard who keeps murdering all the full bloods.

 

[Stupid_Goo]

Considering the Marches is mainly dominated by Lupines because of ancestry, I'm not surprised the majority of other races are halves. Unless they're catfolk, because apparently almost all catfolk are basically humans with cat ears and tails.
And then whoever Berwyn's mother and father were considering he's the only half-Lupine in the game so far, unless PC is made into one (but even then they count as a full Lupine according to the game's racial count system.)

 

[Shrike675]

I know it has probably been mentioned but so many half breed races imma flip out if the new bear tf is human based as well. I really just want to find the bastard who keeps murdering all the full bloods.

The TF is a public doc available to everyone, just so your aware.

As for gripes, my one complaint is that the UI for the powers menu in the mobile version is not the greatest. It's a limitation I know, but man does it suck to have half the description of equipped powers not shown.

 

[Stupid_Goo]

It's time to become a ubiquitous ursine;
If only the game had something akin to an ushanka...
"Glory to the Marches!"
- definitely not a Papers, Please reference

But now that there's a bear TF coming in..
I'm surprised I haven't seen anyone trying to make a TF that makes you taller than 8 feet yet - considering Jotuns tower over 9+ feet and I haven't found any scenes that take your overwhelming height into consideration. But then again, I haven't really been looking.
And it'd be funny if you went toe to toe with Benny in a wrestling match if you could get that tall...

 

[Alypia]

I'm surprised I haven't seen anyone trying to make a TF that makes you taller than 8 feet yet - considering Jotuns tower over 9+ feet and I haven't found any scenes that take your overwhelming height into consideration.

The height limit is intentional, and it's very closely connected to the dearth of hyper content.