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redlightnin55

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While i know this has essentially non existent chance to happen, but i would really like if after Etheryns cage is removed, confidence stat would change to sub/dom one instead.
Ehhhh I dunno, I definitely don't agree that it should just happen. Giving players a clearly marked choice is infinitely better than forcing yet another dom.

I respect that you and others want just a full party of people to bully and dominate your heavily submissive butt, but I don't. I'd much prefer a happy, high con Ryn where we're equals/she's still slightly submissive. And releasing her from the cage should not be the decision that determines whether she goes dom or not.
 

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Ehhhh I dunno, I definitely don't agree that it should just happen. Giving players a clearly marked choice is infinitely better than forcing yet another dom.

I respect that you and others want just a full party of people to bully and dominate your heavily submissive butt, but I don't. I'd much prefer a happy, high con Ryn where we're equals/she's still slightly submissive. And releasing her from the cage should not be the decision that determines whether she goes dom or not.
I meant that confidence would be replaced with sub/dom stat or something, would work just like confidence works now. Bulli Ryn to get her to be submissive, encourage to to be more dominant.
 

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I meant that confidence would be replaced with sub/dom stat or something, would work just like confidence works now. Bulli Ryn to get her to be submissive, encourage to to be more dominant.
I’d like them both, confident and yet a sub, then again it would be hell to write all variants I believe
 
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Tide Hunter

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While i know this has essentially non existent chance to happen, but i would really like if after Etheryns cage is removed, confidence stat would change to sub/dom one instead.
I meant that confidence would be replaced with sub/dom stat or something, would work just like confidence works now. Bulli Ryn to get her to be submissive, encourage to to be more dominant.
Building off what red said, while I do like doms, I'd prefer if a high-con Etheryn (which I always go for) didn't suddenly become Evelyn (but blue). And, it wouldn't work as something separate but replacing from the confidence meter, so if something like it was implemented, it would sort of be a bait-and-switch for all those who have Ryn as a slightly subby partner. And even aside from that, Ryn's differing variables are plentiful enough that even just adding a cock variable is considered too much extra work to account for, so needing new variants of all the scenes to account for Ryn not only being confident, but a full-on dom would probably cause anyone writing her to have a stroke.
 

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I meant that confidence would be replaced with sub/dom stat or something, would work just like confidence works now. Bulli Ryn to get her to be submissive, encourage to to be more dominant.
That doesn't change much of what I said though. You're still saying that being nice to Ryn after her cage is removed would automatically turn her into a dom over time. What about all the people who want the same Ryn they've built up from what is basically emotional rock-bottom just without the cage?

Building up confidence is a fairly simple, one-way street basically. You either decide to keep Ryn down in the dumps, or you help to raise her up over time. Both paths have it as a clearly laid out choice the player makes, and then makes routinely. In contrast, using the same system to change her to a dom or a sub doesn't work as well when you consider the opposite ends of the personality spectrum she ends up at after you've made your decision on which end of the confidence spectrum to go for.

We'll forgo discussing the amount of work required to handle the potentially myriad paths to focus on other reasons it shouldn't be done in the way you suggest. Tide Hunter mentioned that succinctly enough.

There are three main ways this breaks down if the same automated system were used for dom/sub--
1: High con Ryn's cage comes off and your behavior toward her remains the same. Suddenly she begins to dominate you where before you were roughly equals.
2: Low con Ryn's cage comes off and your behavior toward her remains the same. She either remains the same or becomes more subby.
3: High con Ryn's cage comes off and you notice she's becoming dominant, and if you don't like that, you suddenly shift to become a bully to her.

That last one is what this system would force onto players like myself. It'd basically force me to consistently switch between being sweet and dickish to manipulate her state between these two points on the spectrum. Too happy and she becomes a dom, too sad and she becomes a sub. It would be a massive pain to keep track of. I hope now you can see why using the same system wouldn't be very ideal. It would be much better as a binary choice, like switching Arona's disposition after the fact.

After you free her, you can chat with her and say "hey, I adore the confidence you've built up and I want to see you explore new places it can take you. I want you to be more sexually assertive with me and we'll see how things go from there!" If that's not what you want, you can chat with her and say something like "I know some change is coming now that your cage is off, but I hope things stay the same between us."

At least that would definitely be my own preference on the subject.
 
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Sacremas

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All Etheryn;

Fisting elements if you happened to turn her ass into a crater during sex scenes due to oversized dick, specifically during the prostate massage scenes, depending on Ryn's butt being dilated to X. Doesn't have to be a lot, can be like a single line inserted into existing scenes dependent on that, just to acknowledge her levels of sleeveness shall we say. Probably with variations of reactions depending on low/high libido Ryn, freaking out if low and indulging serious buttsluttery if high.

A way to dilate Ryn to fit oversized dicks that doesn't involve painfully rutting her, more like carefully massaging, fingering and stretching, possibly involving alchemy items.

A tanking set for Ryn, probably involving a rapier or similar weapon and a duelist stance, and Harrick providing help with defense. Probably unlocked post Winter City, like after Spectre of the Wyld.

Whenever we get to that accursed cage coming off, TF options to either turn her into a full girl and impregnate her, or bring her dick back to similar levels as Synneva so she can impregnate Champ, chosen around when the Cage is removed and then permanent. Gotta keep the royal bloodline going.
 

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Whenever we get to that accursed cage coming off, TF options to either turn her into a full girl and impregnate her, or bring her dick back to similar levels as Synneva so she can impregnate Champ, chosen around when the Cage is removed and then permanent. Gotta keep the royal bloodline going.
Ryn does not want a vagina and she's never getting one, really never. When she's uncaged she will have one penis size, because she already has so many variables that Savin decided enough is enough. Savin has mentioned elsewhere that there will be ways to perpetuate the bloodline if the Champ can't bear children (most likely with Elthara acting as a surrogate) but Ryn is never getting a vagina.

On gear sets, we don't know exactly how it will work but Savin has teased two future sets for Ryn, one of which is implicitly physically oriented though we don't have a lot of details.
 

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He's specified that of the two sets, one is a Druid set similar to Hethia's power-set, and will be using her Bow.
 

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It would be nice if every once in a while the game presented us with a "nice" (could be something else than nice, scary for example) visual representation of the enviroment we are in at that moment or a city we enter.
Some more art related to the environment or location were In (limited ofc), just like some CGs exist for some sexual encounters.

Sounds/music for battle (not for what comes after) xD
Ambience for the locations we're in (if not music).
The game is building into something very sweet and these additions imo would make it even more appealing.

I know that I might be asking for too much from a community driven/developed game but I wanted to just offer my opinion, I won't hold it against anyone if It never happens.

Thanks everyone for your hard work so far, it's highly appreciated.
Cheers!
 
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Cannibal Cravings

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As a fan of things with tails I like it anytime a scene includes mention of my champion doing something with their tail, doesn't even need to be explicitly sexual. Building on that same point I'd like it if the scenes that mention the champion's tail are also specific enough to mention if they have more than one. I've had a few scenes (can't recall specifics atm) where the scene did mention my champion was doing something with their tail but at the time they had become a kitsune through Keros and actually had more than just the one singular tail.

It'd also be cool if there was a way besides soul bonding to Keros for the Champion to get more than one tail. I liked how in the original CoC you could actually grind out fox jewels and use them to increase your tails so long as your stats and everything lined up. It was especially cool to me that you had to bring a jewel to the fox shrine and do the pray action there to unlock your 9th tail.

Total noob here so forgive me if someone covered this already.
 

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I’ve been kinda wondering if there could ever be a dungeon full of blood thirsty creatures (or demons maybe) where you could get a reward for killing as many as you could.
example: PC has to defeat 10 creatures minimum to survive and the defeat 100 creatures to receive a unique weapon (based on class perhaps?) all the while doing it alone, as you cannot bring companions to the dungeon.
 

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I’ve been kinda wondering if there could ever be a dungeon full of blood thirsty creatures (or demons maybe) where you could get a reward for killing as many as you could.
example: PC has to defeat 10 creatures minimum to survive and the defeat 100 creatures to receive a unique weapon (based on class perhaps?) all the while doing it alone, as you cannot bring companions to the dungeon.

Wasn't that the Kitsune Den? ;)

But in seriousness, if it's solo then that would lend itself towards some type of character builds a lot more than others. Already as it is with the duels, I have some characters that just won't be able to win anyway, because they are tank and buffer builds, while others like my Charmer or Black Mage just knocks it out of the park. While you could in theory respec your character and pick up other abilities for that challenge, it doesn't quite seem fair so to say. Better to make it a group effort rather than a direct PC challenge IMO.

There's already at least three survival scenes in the game though, the most notable being the Distraction part of Winter Wolf, which on my Charmer + Dance of the Dunes Cait + Bimbo Azzyran actually managed to break the game and cause it to crash because I took out so many oncoming enemies the game ran out of letters for their names, but other builds have struggled mightly and have had to spend Tears to keep the PC from falling too soon. There's also stopping the flood of explodos when cleansing the ruins for the Temple of Mallach to be built, and of course the good old Orc Lodge if you decide to just challenge the lot of them. In the Winter Wolf quest it gives you better and better rewards (a Wyldsap being the best outcome) depending on how long you last, and Orc Lodge gives you the Bar Brawler title. Some similar type of "Temple of Challenges" type of deal where if you lose you just get kicked out of the temple for X amount of time before you can try again rather than a bad end could be fun, and could have escalating number of trials, with some at the end being near impossible.
 

Sacremas

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Some way of accessing the Stash in my Wayfort, unless there is one and I'm just missing it. My preferred option would be a stable for my dear bondage slut pack horse, for engaging in sexy times with, and option to decorate to full on BDSM dungeon and really give her what she wants... but for an easier add, just enabling access while in the Vault would be good.
 

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Some way of accessing the Stash in my Wayfort, unless there is one and I'm just missing it. My preferred option would be a stable for my dear bondage slut pack horse, for engaging in sexy times with, and option to decorate to full on BDSM dungeon and really give her what she wants... but for an easier add, just enabling access while in the Vault would be good.
Your inventory button flips to Storage instead of Inventory when you go over the Vault.
 
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Kirozu

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Here are a few Champion-focused customization suggestions I had

Tail Height Stat
It would be cool if there was an in-game value (in inches like height) to differentiate the length/standing height of tails as well as a way to increase/decrease this value while playing. It'd be good for people who want Champions with unusually large/long tails (i.e. twice their height/double their size or more). Maybe there could also be a Wingspan value for those who want to do the same for Wings. Large Tails or Wings could sometimes be remarked on by characters (ex: A Champion could be considered intimidating by other Characters prior to a Combat Encounter due to their large appendage(s))

Powers for Large Tails/Large Wings/Many-Tails/Many Wings
A Champion who gains multiple Tails, multiple sets of Wings, or a Tail or Wingspan of large enough size could unlock new powers to use in battle based on this (ex: A Tail Thrash where the Champion stands on all fours and ravages the battlefield with large Tails, a Wingbeat where a Champion with large Wings kicks up powerful winds across the battlefield, etc.)

Ab Rating Stat
A Belly value that could be from 0-100 that would determine what type of abs the Champion would have when they are visible depending on their physique (ex: ranges could possibly be 0-9 = 4 pack, 10-74 = 6 pack, 75-94 = 8 pack, 95-100 = 10 pack). Some characters could have preferences regarding ab muscles. Could be altered slightly through Training and dramatically through other in-game means like Alchemy.

Piercings At Desire Stylists And Tattoos
The ability to get ear, face & body piercings at Aurera & Claire's shop at Hawkethorne (or somewhere else if more fitting).

Body Scars
The ability to gain Scars through Training & Events or Special Combat Encounters. Some characters could have preferences regarding scars (ex: Could impress Brint or arouse Arona).

More Arm & Leg Stats
More stats/values for Arms & Legs (ex: Arm Size/Leg Size to determine how big your Arms/Legs are relative to your physique/the rest of your body, Arm Length/Leg Length (could be a ratio with the average value being 1) to determine how long your Arms/Legs are relative to the rest of your body). Size could be increased or decreased via Training. Some characters could have preferences regarding Arms & Legs (ex: Liking Big Arms or Long Legs).

Thank you for reading
 

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The Champ already has enough variables to track, I don't think that limb length is going to do anything but make Balak see red and writers decide they're not going to bother because they don't want to interrupt the smutty fun to check whether a given character's arm is longer or shorter when deciding how to write the current scene.
(ex: A Champion could be considered intimidating by other Characters prior to a Combat Encounter due to their large appendage(s))
Gameplay effects for TFing is an absolute NO, because the devs do not want to encourage people to min-max. Intimidation as a writing thing with no gameplay effect can already be approximated by the existing height parser or some combination of background, race or whether a given stat like Strength falls in a particular range, should someone really want to write that.
Powers for Large Tails/Large Wings/Many-Tails/Many Wings
A Champion who gains multiple Tails, multiple sets of Wings, or a Tail or Wingspan of large enough size could unlock new powers to use in battle based on this (ex: A Tail Thrash where the Champion stands on all fours and ravages the battlefield with large Tails, a Wingbeat where a Champion with large Wings kicks up powerful winds across the battlefield, etc.)
See above, TFing is not going to grant non-trivial Powers or other perks aside from via soulbinding because that actually has consequences. CoC1 (and early TiTS) made it clear that if you incentivize players to build characters a certain way by giving them gameplay benefits, they'll do that and that fucks up balancing and discourages setting up a character the way you want them to look in favor of what makes the game easier. Never again, is what the devs have made clear. See this post by Tobs if you're interested in some details.
 

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See above, TFing is not going to grant non-trivial Powers or other perks aside from via soulbinding because that actually has consequences. CoC1 (and early TiTS) made it clear that if you incentivize players to build characters a certain way by giving them gameplay benefits, they'll do that and that fucks up balancing and discourages setting up a character the way you want them to look in favor of what makes the game easier. Never again, is what the devs have made clear. See this post by Tobs if you're interested in some details.
Ah I see your point. I didn't know the history but yeah I can see the problems game design wise such things pose.
 

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I'd just like to add that the piercings sounds great regardless. Doesn't have to conflict with the magical ones Oxana gives either, just add a quick line about her magically removing your existing mundane piercing with the same smooth motion she's already magically adding the new one. No need to add special effects to them except possibly minor sexual ones like virility or cum prod, but honestly they could just stay cosmetic. I want my bimbo to get some nice big hoop earrings, a dangly silvery navel piercing and probably more. My Mino wouldn't mind a big old honking nose ring, and my goth mage could use some spikey eyebrow piercings. Ambivalent about the scar stuff, but scarification being a part of the tattoo menu or an equivalent one in Khor Minos or Kervus could work, Hretha might be able to offer it for example.

For the rest of it I agree it's just too much details that's going to drive authors mad. KISS and just have it be part of the existing height, muscles and weight stuff when some author feels like calling for how chisled your abs may be or the like.
 
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Sacremas

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Change breast size measurement to be inches instead of cups, or both, much like testicles. Because cup size in terms of overall "basketball sized" or whatever is next to useless.

Example, this is Kate Upton, famous model.

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Her listed cup size? 30H/GG. Those are not massive basketball sized tits described when someone TFs to H or GG tits in the game. Take a brief look at general breasts in for example the GG Cup cateogry on Boobpedia which varies so massively that figuring the size based on cup becomes pointless, but the inches are at least usual what you think.

Hence, put an inches on breast description in the Appearance screen instead of existing measurements.
 

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Ultimately the point on breast descriptions in this game is to titillate and to give a general idea, not to be accurate. The portraits are already so far off from actually listed breast sizes as to be completely inaccurate sometimes, so I don't see why it matters whether or not we have the correct 3 sizes (or just band + cup, which is what it sounds like you'd want).
 
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Cup sizes are useful because everyone has at least a vague understanding that A is small, B is perky, and anything above D is big. It's about conveying information quickly rather than accurate to any real life standard. Yes, everything is drawn and described as being way bigger than cup sizes would generally be, but I'm reliably informed people like very big boobs.

Inches is a wild standard though. Would that be height, diameter, radius, or circumference? How much geometry would be involved in figuring out how big Cait's boobs are?
 

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Inches is a wild standard though. Would that be height, diameter, radius, or circumference? How much geometry would be involved in figuring out how big Cait's boobs are?

The real one? As I said in the example above, Kate Upton has a breast size of 30H/GG, the 30 is the inches, and the H/GG is the Cup size. Specifically the 30 is inches when measured around her entire torso at the peak of her breasts, the H comes from the difference of that vs what it would be measured right below her breasts. If Kate had 38DD instead, her breasts would actually be bigger than she has with GG, but the shape would be different. That's my whole point.


Specifically what I'm saying is that just put some basic inches, starting from either something standard like 26 or whatever that everyone starts with then any size increase adds like +2 or +3 inches to that, and cup size changes every 3 inches. That would not be accurate, but would give us some guesstimate to how big it is.

And note I'm only asking for the player character here. I have no idea what breast size Cait starts out as, let alone what pouring a gallon of bovine sherry in her would do to her. Nor am I asking to "accurately" alter all of the existing NPCs that currently has "Massive H cup" breasts or similar as in the case of pregnant Infrith, too much work for no worthwile gain.
 
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The real one? As I said in the example above, Kate Upton has a breast size of 30H/GG, the 30 is the inches, and the H/GG is the Cup size. Specifically the 30 is inches when measured around her entire torso at the peak of her breasts, the H comes from the difference of that vs what it would be measured right below her breasts. If Kate had 38DD instead, her breasts would actually be bigger than she has with GG, but the shape would be different. That's my whole point.

Right, my point is why would you put inches in place of the existing measurements? When someone reads H boobs in the game, they're not doing math to figure out how big it would be, they just understand H = real big. People are generally aware that the cup sizes don't correlate to real life sizes, but it still conveys a general idea of the size. I don't see the value in replacing that with an inches measurement.

(Not to mention inches vs metric, which is a whole other kettle of fish)
 
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Note the edit where I made it clear that the only part I care about for this is for the player character, changing the NPCs would be too much work and really not worth it, especially as arch99 pointed out, the art really does not match up to the descriptions most of the time, but given a choice I'll most of the time go by the excellent art when there's a discrepancy personally. Changing the Player description however would be far easier. I just want to know exactly what dimensions my own character has, that's it, and currently breasts are way more ambiguous and confusing than the other appearance descriptions.

And inches vs metric? What does that have anything to do with anything? I'm European, I use metric, and I have to half the time run a calculator to get a better idea of how big something is, but the game is already in inches everywhere else, so that makes it very much a non-point.
 

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The real one? As I said in the example above, Kate Upton has a breast size of 30H/GG, the 30 is the inches, and the H/GG is the Cup size. Specifically the 30 is inches when measured around her entire torso at the peak of her breasts, the H comes from the difference of that vs what it would be measured right below her breasts. If Kate had 38DD instead, her breasts would actually be bigger than she has with GG, but the shape would be different. That's my whole point.


Specifically what I'm saying is that just put some basic inches, starting from either something standard like 26 or whatever that everyone starts with then any size increase adds like +2 or +3 inches to that, and cup size changes every 3 inches. That would not be accurate, but would give us some guesstimate to how big it is.

And note I'm only asking for the player character here. I have no idea what breast size Cait starts out as, let alone what pouring a gallon of bovine sherry in her would do to her. Nor am I asking to "accurately" alter all of the existing NPCs that currently has "Massive H cup" breasts or similar as in the case of pregnant Infrith, too much work for no worthwile gain.
That's not actually true. A breast size of 30H means that 30 is the inches around your torso directly below the breasts, known as your band size. For her cup size to be H, that means that the measurement around her breasts from the peak would be 38 Inches. Cup size is the difference between the circumference of your chest below your breasts and at their peak. Just listing the inches around the peak of the chest is also not remotely helpful for visualizing breast size, because that doesn't factor in someone's physical size or how large their breasts look in proportion to their body.

Source: I'm 38F. They don't look like most people expect "F cups" to look on someone though, because I'm 6 feet tall and fairly broad. If you used just the circumference, you would have me down as 44 inches, which sounds massive compared to, say, Upton's 38, which sounds 16% smaller - except for the fact that her breasts are several sizes larger than mine and also look larger in proportion to her body, due to her being 2 inches shorter and significantly slimmer/having smaller shoulders, a thinner waist, etc.
 

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Serves me right for only skim reading my hastily googled articles and having about as much knowledge as the average obsessive porn observer. Thank you for your input. And yes, size of the body like taking in consideration the person's Thickness stat was something I considered mentioning but left it out as it's already a bit much for probably not something many other than me care about.