Evergreen somewhat is but then you forget she didnt tell you she sent 4 bands of mercs before you which is why they are super hostile.
What content would you like added?
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Did you miss both Komari and Carmen claiming that the Evergreen you know is the same Evergreen they both know from over.two hundred years ago? Did you miss Meira and Senja both talking about.how the successor is chosen from one of the daughters but the rest are kicked out first? How do you think that all works?
And I don't know how many times I can link you to Savin saying that Evergreen would literally set off Detect Evil spells if those existed...
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And from the futureproofing that's already in the code, people clinging to Evergreen's good or neutral alignment are going to be very disappointed in the future.
So first off I wanna say that I haven't played CoC2 a lot yet (touched it for a minute back when it first launched but not at all since), so maybe I just haven't seen what I'm about to talk about yet. Also I'm unsure if this plays into it or not but I am aware the champion is a "Commander Shepard" and has a past and personality to some extent.
With that out of the way, are there any scenes (feel free to point me towards them) where we see anything other than joy, desire or anger? Is the champion capable of anything akin to doubt? Fear? Shame? Sadness?
Anytime I think we'd see the champion hesitate, wince, look away, it just seems like it's a "stoic shrug and let's move along, nothing to see here" or in the case of a romantic moment it's a pat on the head and a kiss, but tears, trying not to cry, a moment of hesitation, you see these expressed by others towards the champion but never (again, that I've seen) by the champion.
I don't mean to downplay our protagonists emotional range and maybe it's simply up to whomever the writer is for whatever the scene is conveying and I'd also imagine I'm probably in the minority for people who'd even want to see those kinds of things expressed by their champion.
Uh, so I guess what I'm trying to say is I'd like to see content where we see a more "emotionally vulnerable" side to the champion if that's even possible per our Commander Shepard's personality.
With that out of the way, are there any scenes (feel free to point me towards them) where we see anything other than joy, desire or anger? Is the champion capable of anything akin to doubt? Fear? Shame? Sadness?
Anytime I think we'd see the champion hesitate, wince, look away, it just seems like it's a "stoic shrug and let's move along, nothing to see here" or in the case of a romantic moment it's a pat on the head and a kiss, but tears, trying not to cry, a moment of hesitation, you see these expressed by others towards the champion but never (again, that I've seen) by the champion.
I don't mean to downplay our protagonists emotional range and maybe it's simply up to whomever the writer is for whatever the scene is conveying and I'd also imagine I'm probably in the minority for people who'd even want to see those kinds of things expressed by their champion.
Uh, so I guess what I'm trying to say is I'd like to see content where we see a more "emotionally vulnerable" side to the champion if that's even possible per our Commander Shepard's personality.
Kitsune content is marked by a tone of fatalistic melancholy that a lot of people complain about but it seems like might be right up your alley. Look out for fox-people with lots of tails who want to nibble at your soul.
Doesn't matter to me.. I prefer to judge people for myself and personally Evergreen is a saint (but not by much) compared to the demons. Just like the champs meant to be Pansexual but my champs are all gay. It's how I play.
Like how people defend the Kitsunes when they attack, they cant take no for an answer, that to me is still an evil act.
Like how people defend the Kitsunes when they attack, they cant take no for an answer, that to me is still an evil act.
Your gonna ignore all the travelers shes turned into tanukis arent you?
The kitsune content does have some of those, but its only because its much more fleshed out due to be its (Mostly) own thing away from the main story.
Haven't we had this whole "Why does everyone say Evergreen is evil?" thing before. Followed by a Savin quote confirming she is evil with every character who knows her in-game outright stating or implying she is and does evil shit?
I think you're missing the whole point of tanuki Flemeth's character then. Or you love the idea of Evergreen and not the actual character, seeing as how the game's creator has explicitly confirmed that she's evil but to you she's a saint.
I think you're missing the whole point of tanuki Flemeth's character then. Or you love the idea of Evergreen and not the actual character, seeing as how the game's creator has explicitly confirmed that she's evil but to you she's a saint.
I said compared to demons which are evil. Yes it's confirmed but I can't see how she's evil personally.
If you love Evergreen then great. My favourite characters are Kiyoko and Arona, one of whom is fully entrenched in the culture of an imperialistic, colonising power, and the other is literally a slaving rapist.
It's just that there's a difference between 'I love this character despite/because they're evil' and 'I'm sorry I just don't see how brainwashing and warping the bodies of travellers to become my wards and jumping into their bodies to extend my life is evil'.
It's just that there's a difference between 'I love this character despite/because they're evil' and 'I'm sorry I just don't see how brainwashing and warping the bodies of travellers to become my wards and jumping into their bodies to extend my life is evil'.
Like yeah the demons are evil, but its because they literally dont have empathy, Evergreen very much does and still does it. Also "all my champs are gay" and like the character with fat tanuki nuts and a oversized cock, ironic.
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I wonder how much your tune will change if/when she actually commits evil, in-game, right in front of the Champion. And given that the above-mentioned future-proofing exists, I'd guess it's a matter of 'when' rather than 'if'.
I've definitely stumbled upon the orb and while I'm fairly neutral on fatalism, I love melancholy (I really love sad stories, though I tend to prefer they end on the happy side) and I am thoroughly enjoying TheObserver's work, it's certainly close enough to what I was looking for and beggars can't be choosers.
I get why people probably wouldn't enjoy that sort of thing in this type of game but for me even if I'm driving a "Commander Shepard" and not my own character, a wide array of emotions, especially sadness, rather than just some stoic badass casanova. When that happens I tend to fall into this trap with smut games, "Why am I even reading all of this, just spam next till the next smut scene pops up." At which point I just quit playing the game cause if I'm not reading everything what's even the point?
Uh I guess I rambled there, anyway I'll certainly continue diving into the Kitsune content next chance I get and thanks for confirming that has tones of what I'm looking for.
As long as I get to be evil with Evergreen I am goochi. Or evil period.
As a true Evergreen appreciator, I have no need to cope because her true nature is simply an added spice. Honestly we could use some more morally ambiguous/dark NPCs if I'm being honest.
Wait Dommy Mommy is evil? =(
Are we going to have to do anything about it? Because my champ likes her cuddles and currently revels in her obliviousness with Evergreen.
Are we going to have to do anything about it? Because my champ likes her cuddles and currently revels in her obliviousness with Evergreen.
So what, like a semi-permanent raccoon transformation? I'm down for becoming her child.
Pretty sure siding with her is just going to be an ending where she steals your body in the end lol.
Some crossdressing content? Maybe have Brint, Berwyn or Quin put on a maid outfit for our amusement? These two already have pieces of fanart that show that they can rock it. And bunny has frame for it.
Would be fun.
Would be fun.
Would be a waste of such a powerful soul, i feel like she'd keep the champ around for as long as she possibly could. Also if siding with/against Evergreen is a major choice, Evergreen fans would feel jipped if they instantly get body snatched after the events of the game. I feel that allowing yourself to be transformed by tanukimom should eventually result in a bad ending, but the sexy kind instead of the spooky kind.
Arent all outfits unisex, like the outfit you get from Kohuko, Kuros outfit, is meant for females but you can still wear it as a guy(And get some funny dialouge for it).
Even without the soul the champ was born with some powerful natural abilties, her instantly snatching your body makes a lot of sense. She cant do much with your soul anyway.
I meant NPCs.
Also why should siding with Evergreen result in Bad ending? What purpose would that serve expect fucking over the players that like her?
Specifically meant allowing her to transform you and getting too close should result in a bad end.
A super witch with centuries of experience couldn't find something to do with a soul pretty much every powerful being in the setting wants? Doubtful. If nothing else we're a good bargaining tool.
As long as they are not mutually exclusive, as in getting transformed leading into the bad end, I do not mind.