Your gripes with CoC II

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WolframL

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There is no such thing as too much futa.
In moderation certainly. Overexposure to futa has been found in controlled studies to lead to extreme exhaustion, dehydration, muscle strain, irritation of mucous membranes and permahorni, as well as the leading cause of clothing and bedding permanently smelling of (fem)cum.. Consult a doctor to be certain you are healthy enough for your current futa intake.
Huh, guess I really never noticed how few they are, might just be because they stand out a bit more. Though honestly it was nice learning about the under the hood stuff.
There's an older post where Alypia listed off every named female that was in the game at that point, to illustrate that there really are that many more pure females than ladies with dicks of any description.
 

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This is what Bubblelord wrote "He doesn't "take pittance"; he doesn't pity you but respects your skill and ability, which is why he stops fighting. Again, assuming makes a BIG ASS out of you."
He stops fighting. You never actually defeat him, since his stamina and abilities are to great for you. He just stops.
Now, you may see it how Bubbles see it, as "respect". I see it as a way in having your cake and eating it too. Having your character be more capable and powerful than champion and his ensemble but at same time making it possible for players to progress through his combat encounter without always meating a bad end ala Doctor Badger while still keeping that clout of indestructibility.
So, yeah, I do not see him letting us a win as a way for him to show respect. Just a pity victory at the end of the day. At least the way Bubs described it.

Here is the thread where he replied to me on that subject (among many others). That was my same response to his "respect" argument.
This just in, the enemy stops fighting because you're besting/keeping them from winning is now deemed not winning. Never realized that being able to fight an "unstoppable object"/someone with near hard-to-kill abilities to a halt is considered not winning but this hot take continues to make me happy I hardly come to the forums these days. Too many people with false takes and bad reads, constantly stretching the reality to fit their demented views on my content and their irrational overanalyzing of it.

Again: Leofric being at a level that's near unkillable doesn't make him "unbeatable". People keep reaching and ignoring what I've said so kindly fuck off and stop talking about the content if you don't understand it or hate it. I'm not here to cater to you, but to the people who have been patiently waiting for the content and actually want it. My real gripe with CoC2 is that so many people are content to hate on content but then backpedal and say they like it when all they do is shit all over it. Just fucking cry to someone who cares because I don't give a shit about people who openly spread lies about my content. Sorry to say that patience ran out ages ago.
 

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This just in, the enemy stops fighting because you're besting/keeping them from winning is now deemed not winning. Never realized that being able to fight an "unstoppable object"/someone with near hard-to-kill abilities to a halt is considered not winning but this hot take continues to make me happy I hardly come to the forums these days. Too many people with false takes and bad reads, constantly stretching the reality to fit their demented views on my content and their irrational overanalyzing of it.

Again: Leofric being at a level that's near unkillable doesn't make him "unbeatable". People keep reaching and ignoring what I've said so kindly fuck off and stop talking about the content if you don't understand it or hate it. I'm not here to cater to you, but to the people who have been patiently waiting for the content and actually want it. My real gripe with CoC2 is that so many people are content to hate on content but then backpedal and say they like it when all they do is shit all over it. Just fucking cry to someone who cares because I don't give a shit about people who openly spread lies about my content. Sorry to say that patience ran out ages ago.
But, here is the thing, when we defeat other enemies, they do not go down because they "acknowledged our fighting spirit" or however you want to put it. They go down because they can not go on.
The way you word his encounter does not help me see your way of processing the context/flow of events. Each time sounds like he lets us win. In same way when your older brother lets you beat him in a video game. Sure, by strict definition, a win is a win. But not really a deserving or satisfying one.
 
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Unless I've missed it, the lack of piercings.. I like my MCs with a good amount of piercings, ears, brows, lips.. dick and clit piercings. And tongue.
 
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But, here is the thing, when we defeat other enemies, they do not go down because they "acknowledged our fighting spirit" or however you want to put it. They go down because they can not go on.
The way you word his encounter does not help me see your way of processing the context/flow of events. Each time sounds like he lets us win. In same way when your older brother lets you beat him in a video game. Sure, by strict definition, a win is a win. But not really a deserving or satisfying one.
on the one hand I definitely see where you're coming from. the idea that he LET'S you win is infuriating. It's extra infuriating when you no he has bullshit powers that make him practically unbeatable.

It's like the champ is out here grinding their ass off fighting all kinds of monsters and demons and this jackass is running around with god mode on doing fuck all. and I'm supposed to earn his respect?

BUUUUT, on the other hand I don't THINK that's what bubs is going for here. rather than Leoric letting you win because you can't beat him, I think it's more like he gives up because he can't beat you. Despite being an unstoppable demi-god with bullshit powers, no matter how many times he decides to get back up and swing his big fuckoff axe at you he has to accept the fact that he can't win against you. It's not your older brother letting you win against him, It's getting invaded by a hacker in DS using an infinite heath cheat and you keep backstabbing and parrying/riposting him (which he can't avoid because he's bad at the game) until he gives up and quits the game.
 
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WolframL

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I wish that Kasyrra's dick wasn't so close to the sharp edge of her axe in her artwork. Gives me the shivers every time I look at it.
New art or old art? Because in her new art at least there's some separation between her junk and her axe. In the old art it looked like she might end up with a split dick if she got hard.
 
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It's like the champ is out here grinding their ass off fighting all kinds of monsters and demons and this jackass is running around with god mode on doing fuck all. and I'm supposed to earn his respect?

Can't bring myself to hate on Leofric, he has so much of an old guard former shonen protagonist vibes going on and I'm really fond of that trope most of the time. Plus I prefer to believe that some sort of reveal will happen down the line that will clue us in on what Leofric is busy doing while his company is in disarray, tarnishing their name and risking their lives - or at least their anal integrity. And, if we are lucky, how that secretive looming threat can be turned into a sexy adventure for the Champ.

BUUUUT, on the other hand I don't THINK that's what bubs is going for here. rather than Leoric letting you win because you can't beat him, I think it's more like he gives up because he can't beat you. Despite being an unstoppable demi-god with bullshit powers, no matter how many times he decides to get back up and swing his big fuckoff axe at you he has to accept the fact that he can't win against you. It's not your older brother letting you win against him, It's getting invaded by a hacker in DS using an infinite heath cheat and you keep backstabbing and parrying/riposting him (which he can't avoid because he's bad at the game) until he gives up and quits the game.
Him being entirely unable to defeat the Champ is, on the other hand, something I'm still not quite sold on. Because on top of all the buffs he is rocking, he is a veteran fighter who should be more than capable of using this nigh-invulnerability to snap the victory out of the jaws of any defeat, unless he is literally reduced to a bloody pulp; it is what he was molded into doing. Maybe obtaining the status as a kinda-sorta-immortal has led to his instincts dulling, his skills backsliding and most importantly his motivation in most regular fights flagging - a tried and tested trope for characters like him. But even with that, if Leofric really had it for the Champ the way, say, Nakano did initially, we wouldn't be able to stop him the way we are now. Maybe by the time we reach the actual endgame.
 

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I wish there was a set of fist weapons in the game.

And a gripe I have with myself is that I wish I like fantasy more. I have over the years fallen harder in love with sci-fi and I think as of right now I like the setting in TiTS more. It sucks.
 

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I wish there was a set of fist weapons in the game.

If you wanna get technical, there are but they're exclusive to Garrett and can only be playable through the save editor. I'd love fist weapons though. Disarm could just have some flavor text about how the enemy walks up and takes our gauntlet weapons off, throws them on the ground, and returns to their original position. I'd whine about being disarmed anyway so may as well keep it for fisticuffs.
 
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New art or old art? Because in her new art at least there's some separation between her junk and her axe. In the old art it looked like she might end up with a split dick if she got hard.
Both, though the old art is definitely worse.
 

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Disarm could just have some flavor text about how the enemy walks up and takes our gauntlet weapons off, throws them on the ground, and returns to their original position. I'd whine about being disarmed anyway so may as well keep it for fisticuffs.
That's such a hilarious mental image that it makes me want to run a "These Hands" champion if/when we ever get punching gauntlets. Hell, I might just save edit myself a pair of Garrett's hands.

Or a Siblings Mode, where instead of Calla it's the random do-gooder that came to help save her that gets yeeted into the portal. So you play as the Zetra sisters trying to show the newly arrived Kassyra what's what.
Throw in Salwah utilising the Dancer Silks' moveset and you really could have the All Jassiran Squad.
 

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If you wanna get technical, there are but they're exclusive to Garrett and can only be playable through the save editor. I'd love fist weapons though. Disarm could just have some flavor text about how the enemy walks up and takes our gauntlet weapons off, throws them on the ground, and returns to their original position. I'd whine about being disarmed anyway so may as well keep it for fisticuffs.
One of the gimmicks of fist weapons is they could be immune to disarm, as well as taking up both hand slots when equipped.
Apart from that they would probably tend towards being speedy lower damage weapons somewhat like daggers? Instead of being made for critty rogues they'd probably be more fast defensive warrior weapons unless they also came in "claw" variants.
 

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Realistically, gauntlet, knuckleduster or punch-dagger type weapons would have penalties to evasion and accuracy both to represent how much you give up in terms of reach and blocking surface. They will also need to have low pen (punch-daggers can be an exception there) and base damage to represent how poor they work as force projection implements compared to other melee weapons.
 

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Is it just me or are there very, very few decent lust-based attacks? Song of Splendor is practically OP, Allure is very nice (it's the Lust Cleave), but other than that it's mostly super weak Black Mage spells. Also irrelevant add-ons on certain abilities and weapons (which if you're using those you're going for a Health win, not a Resolve win), like Wyvern Sting.

Sometimes I want to make a Resolve combat character, but then I remember... it's just gonna be the exact same build. Song of Splendor, Allure. And I'm going to have to switch to Health combat regularly anyway because there are things that aren't affected by lust combat... and many of those things are random encounters so I can't prepare for it. All in all, it completely discourages me from even trying.

I'd like a bit of variety there, and some sort of way to function against immune enemies with a lust-based party. It's a sex game, I think sex builds should be supported.
 

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I'd like a bit of variety there, and some sort of way to function against immune enemies with a lust-based party. It's a sex game, I think sex builds should be supported.
Yes, but when some enemies are utterly uninterested in sex the fact that they're in a porn game does not matter. Shockingly, the devs have decided that they aren't going to allow you a single build that will work in all situations, as part of the gameplay balancing act..
Specifically, one resolve move is OP (Song of Splendour), and another is quite good (Allure). You're not going to be defeating anything with Soul Arrow, Shadow Magic, or Carnal Hex.
Soul Arrow works wonders on Sigrune though, if you want to get past her with a sqishier or lower-leveled party. Well, it's probably no longer quite as good after a couple rounds of combat rebalancing but it's still a viable skill to use against enemies with less Resolve than Health and who can't be defeated by shaking your ass at them.
 
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Yes, but when some enemies are utterly uninterested in sex the fact that they're in a porn game does not matter. Shockingly, the devs have decided that they aren't going to allow you a single build that will work in all situations, as part of the gameplay balancing act..

But they did allow it. If you make a good Health combat build, it is going to work in all situations because enemies that are resistant to Health combat are super weak to Resolve damage. I meet a slime with my Health combat party? I Tease it a few times and it's gone. And that's fine, no build should have to endure enemies that it just can't beat, especially if it's a random encounter.

Is the reverse true? If you meet something that's highly resistant to Resolve combat, is it super weak to Health combat? Nope. You meet a Golem, it's completely immune to Resolve and extremely resistant to Health combat. It's functionally invincible.

The Health combat party gets to do whatever they want, the Resolve combat party gets hardblocked. That's not balanced.

Soul Arrow works wonders on Sigrune though, if you want to get past her with a sqishier or lower-leveled party. Well, it's probably no longer quite as good after a couple rounds of combat rebalancing but it's still a viable skill to use against enemies with less Resolve than Health and who can't be defeated by shaking your ass at them.

That's true, but can an entire ability's existence be justified because it's good in one encounter? Soul Arrow is otherwise pretty bad, and thematically it doesn't fit into a sexy build at all, if you're trying to seduce something the last thing you want to do is magically induce a headache.

That's another issue with the tiny selection of Resolve abilities, actually. There are two types of powers that attack Resolve (those that cause lust, and those that cause mental pain and terror) and they're thematically opposed.

Given that all the abilities that cause pain and terror are garbage, wouldn't it be better if Resolve were strictly a Lust thing?

Or maybe the whole Resolve system is still on the chopping block... it would be sad, but given that it currently rests on two strong powers and nothing else, I think it's a real possibility. There's comparatively very little investment into it, and I suspect no one wants to balance it (understandably, balance is super hard), so it might just get trashed at some point.
 

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It really saddens me that it looks like we're going to end up with only one futa companion.

Two would be nice. I mean, more would be great, but at least one that wasn't so...Arona.
 

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It really saddens me that it looks like we're going to end up with only one futa companion.

Two would be nice. I mean, more would be great, but at least one that wasn't so...Arona.
There are other 2 coming. Berwyn will be able to become futa and Agni, future phoenix companion, will also be able to grow a shaft. Both of them are written by B. So no worries there, you will not need to stuck with Arona.
 

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There are other 2 coming. Berwyn will be able to become futa and Agni, future phoenix companion, will also be able to grow a shaft. Both of them are written by B. So no worries there, you will not need to stuck with Arona.

Oh, that is a nice surprise!
I'd prefer full futas than futa optional, because they'll probably have less futa centric scenes, but heck, I thought there wouldn't be any, so I'm pretty excited now.
 
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