Your gripes with CoC II

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So there's finally an option for Eryka to get rid of her dick and stop getting that fucking dream every time I go to bed. And it requires giving her a handie. WHY DOES TOBS THE UNIVERSE DEMAND WE FUCK HER? Guess it's back to the woods with her. I'm so excited to see how this decision will fuck me over in the ending.
 

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Maybe it's my personal preferences, but I'm still not bothered at the chance to have Wynne. That's still optional, and Berry would've changed some way eventually as original doc material ran out and development progressed. I don't know if B or anyone even fully knows what Hugs's original vision was, besides Hugs. I don't have that information. I'll admit to a personal bias since I'm not fond of vanilla Berry, and Hugs's feelings are valid. But I still want to remain optimistic and not get all doom and gloom and start side eying every update for Berry.

Do not like implications of genderbending another male companion (stay safe Quint), but seems to be better handled than what Brienne ended up.

Brienne is top tier and we can't stop until every single companion, nay every single character, has become busty waifu bait.

So there's finally an option for Eryka to get rid of her dick and stop getting that fucking dream every time I go to bed. And it requires giving her a handie. WHY DOES TOBS THE UNIVERSE DEMAND WE FUCK HER? Guess it's back to the woods with her. I'm so excited to see how this decision will fuck me over in the ending.

Be petty and give her a handy using a lot of ye olde Vaseline. She'll never be able to wash off the mess. Ever. Trust me, I know.
 

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Do we have to remove her dick? Will she be getting more content related to the dedicking.. she mentioned something about wanting rid because etc etc.
 
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Lone Wolf115

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Alright, so two questions/gripes:

1. Why do you automatically lose when the player goes down? It makes no sense for companions to suddenly give up the moment the PC is defeated.
2. Why can't my companions use items?
You are a Sangheili officer and your companions are the grunts, you go down and they scatter. You know Halo. ;) :catte:
Because like every other game, you don't do it yourself it won't get done.
 

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Sometimes I hate Cait, she's meant to heal us during a fight if we need it but more times than not she doesn't. What use is she?
 

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Sometimes I hate Cait, she's meant to heal us during a fight if we need it but more times than not she doesn't. What use is she?
Bad AI. Manual mode is right there.
 
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It bothers me more in context of the events than does it in practice.
Since at beggining the talk was all about respecting Hughes wishes and all that. Berwyn being a dom and staying a guy as main ones. Then short while later, after he had a fight with the team or something, all of it changes. Bam, here comes BerWynne and bam s/he (can) gains some big ol' tatas! Ahoy, therr romance and sub routes! Welcome to writing district. It all seems like Hirrurd situation, where this whole slew of events cascaded from spite. This kind of makes me wish that this was all planned from the start after hugs left. It would make it easier on my consciousness if nothing else.

As for context inside of the game... It is not really sending a positive message when it comes to people like guys when you put it like "Ey 2 out of 3 male companions can become girls." Which in context of playerbase that vastly prefers female NPCs makes sense. Caveat being that it feels that the enjoyment of small percentage of guy, gals and everyone inbetween is being sacrificed for sake of larger whole. But I must punctuate, it feels like that. Not that it is.

Now getting all that out of the way and focusing on what is being worked on... I love it. B is one of my favorite writers from TiTS and seeing him dip more and more into writing for CoC2 makes me all kinds of happy. But can not say thay I am not a little worried that Berwyn is going to get white washed to appeal to masses. I like his boyish charms, his cocky demeanour when comes to sex yet how he can be so valnurable underneath it.
But, once again, judging by what B wrote and Berwyns bad end designed by him, even these worries are basesd more out my own paranoia than on any basis of current reality. I just need to go dom route and bam, my very own dogy bull is back.
And cboy Berry is buttering me up, can not lie.

Still this does help me to win arguments with people. If anyone ever uses the excuses "it would not fit the character/character does not want it" as to why we can not TF them (Ryn) I will just point them at Berry. If there is a will, there is a way.
 
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I think I prefer TiTs fighting solo.. at least if I die or get raped it's all my fault.
It's not your fault, just your equipment or your class, but you no, ok maybe you didn't fight hard enough or something else, but still not your fault.
 
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To be fair is Berry even Hugs character anymore?
Whatever reason for his leaving, he did leave Berry very incomplete. Seeing as B has taken him over, does that kinda now make Berry his now? The sex change thingy is optional just like Brint, though who can say no to a moo like Brienne.
Glad that we will get more domme ladies, Was worried that female Berry would be submissive.
 
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It bothers me more in context of the events than does it in practice.
Since at beggining the talk was all about respecting Hughes wishes and all that. Berwyn being a dom and staying a guy as main ones. Then short while later, after he had a fight with the team or something, all of it changes. Bam, here comes BerWynne and bam s/he (can) gains some big ol' tatas! Ahoy, therr romance and sub routes! Welcome to writing district. It all seems like Hirrurd situation, where this whole slew of events cascaded from spite. This kind of makes me wish that this was all planned from the start after hugs left. It would make it easier on my consciousness if nothing else.
Y'know, there was a message from B, in a thread made a while back. Perhaps some of it was of ill intent, but unless B is lying about what Hugs said, a sub Berwyn and a feminized Berwyn may go against the original intent of Berwyn, but Hugs did not seem opposed, and the original intent/doc was no longer necessarily accurate to Hugs' view anyways. Also, there potentially being a romance route does make sense, given that "He's a fervent demisexual when it comes to men," so forming/shaping that attraction would probably be a good idea.
 
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To be fair is Berry even Hugs character anymore?
Whatever reason for his leaving, he did leave Berry very incomplete. Seeing as B has taken him over, does that kinda now make Berry his now? The sex change thingy is optional just like Brint, though who can say no to a moo like Brienne.
Glad that we will get more domme ladies, Was worried that female Berry would be submissive.
No Berry is taken by B. If there's anything else then I have no idea.
 

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me, thinking about how I don't let Brint anywhere near that cursed armor because I like him just the way he is and vastly prefer him to Brienne:

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Heh, first thing I did as soon as I got off the tutorial. A beeline for the old forest to get Brint, and then a beeline to the hollow cave to get the armor. And then purposedfully (as a player) ignoring the warnings.
 

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Heh, first thing I did as soon as I got off the tutorial. A beeline for the old forest to get Brint, and then a beeline to the hollow cave to get the armor. And then purposedfully (as a player) ignoring the warnings.
Wow, you must be a vegetarian then because I can't believe you're that willing to throw away a perfectly good hunk of beef smh. That—or you really believe that drinking milk builds strong bones. :iiam:
 

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Now don't get me wrong—I have nothing against Brienne personally. I just wish that she was her own separate character, instead, because I just don't wanna do my boy Brint dirty like that by essentially tossing him aside. He's my champion's lovable bro husband—her brosband if you will. To make him put on the cursed armor—knowing what will happen—would feel like betrayal.

If Brienne was, say, Brint's long-lost twin sister, on the other hand, well :catte:
 

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Y'know, there was a message from B, in a thread made a while back. Perhaps some of it was of ill intent, but unless B is lying about what Hugs said, a sub Berwyn and a feminized Berwyn may go against the original intent of Berwyn, but Hugs did not seem opposed, and the original intent/doc was no longer necessarily accurate to Hugs' view anyways. Also, there potentially being a romance route does make sense, given that "He's a fervent demisexual when it comes to men," so forming/shaping that attraction would probably be a good idea.
Unless I'm missing something here (and no doubt I am as there's clearly stuff happening behind the scenes) I don't think not being attached to his physical masculinity means it's a Go to just turn the dude into a chick even optionally.
 

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I mean technically our champions don't actually know what will happen to Brint.. well that's how I justify it.
I'm curious: would you give that same justification if something similar were to happen to a dickless lady companion (but the inverse)—or would you try to prevent it at all costs?

Me? I personally feel uncomfortable either way tbh. I read what happens to Izma from CoC I if you were to deceive her into drinking that Bro Brew and the whole thing made me feel so dirty. It only strengthened my stance that forced TFs are morally wrong. Fortunately, though, what happens to Brint (should you choose to let it happen) only requires the player to be passive on their part. Furthermore, Brint doesn't lose TOO much of himself if he becomes Brienne. So, all's well that ends well I suppose.
 
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SmithEK

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I'm curious: would you give that same justification if something similar were to happen to a dickless lady companion (but the inverse)—or would you try to prevent it at all costs?

Me? I personally feel uncomfortable either way tbh. I read what happens to Irma from CoC I if you were to deceive her into drinking that Bro Brew and the whole thing made me feel so dirty. It only strengthened my stance that forced TFs are morally wrong. Fortunately, though, what happens to Brint (should you choose to let it happen) only requires the player to be passive on their part. Furthermore, Brint doesn't lose TOO much of himself if he becomes Brienne. So, all's well that ends well I suppose.
Irma? Is that Loppes mom or do you mean Izma? The Shark beta, though I do 0refer if she had been alpha.
 
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Forget Me Knot

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Irma? Is that Loppes mom or do you mean Izma? The Shark beta, though I do 0refer if she had been alpha.
Right! Izma! Sorry, it's been a while since I last played. But, yeah, she's the shark girl that calls the champ her alpha if they were to best her in a sparring match multiple times. You have the option to trick her into turning into a dude by drinking the Bro Brew and it's absolutely horrific. 0/10, Would not recommend.
 

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Right! Izma! Sorry, it's been a while since I last played. But, yeah, she's the shark girl that calls the champ her alpha if they were to best her in a sparring match multiple times. You have the option to trick her into turning into a dude by drinking the Bro Brew and it's absolutely horrific. 0/10, Would not recommend.
Ew no I would never change a lady unless of course like Amily she grew a cock so she could repopulate her species. I see what you mean but I do have an all female/herm crew on TiTs and CoC1 n 2.. Brint is a good guy and would make a good friend, I just prefer Brienne. Berry is to me a spoilt brat or at least acts like one.. I'm happy to change him to her because I want Methia (isthat her name? His mistress) and B is adding her.
 
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Heh, first thing I did as soon as I got off the tutorial. A beeline for the old forest to get Brint, and then a beeline to the hollow cave to get the armor. And then purposedfully (as a player) ignoring the warnings.

Dude same. Brienne is my favorite companion and hits all my likes. I'll take calcium over testosterone every time.
 

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Ew no I would never change a lady unless of course like Amily she grew a cock so she could repopulate her species. I see what you mean but I do have an all female/herm crew on TiTs and CoC1 n 2.. Brint is a good guy and would make a good friend, I just prefer Brienne. Berry is to me a spoilt brat or at least acts like one.. I'm happy to change him to her because I want Methia (isthat her name? His mistress) and B is adding her.
That's fair. Ideally, I think it would be pretty neat if every companion was gender selectable since, that way, everyone could be happy—and it wouldn't feel as if the world was against male companions, asdfghjkl (stay strong, Quin). I understand why it isn't doable, though, because that would mean double the workload. Plus, for certain characters—like Ryn, for example—their gender is an integral aspect of them and, thus, making their gender optional would only do a disservice to their story.

Might be cool to add for a potential new game in the distant future, though. Who knows!

At everyone who cares to answer: if you could select the gender of all your companions—they don't necessarily have to be the ones from CoC II (it just can be imaginary ones from a possible CoC III)—what would the gender ratio look like? All guys? (LOL.) All girls? (The most likely outcome probably.) Or some sort of mix? :iiam:

I would swing between going for a mix (because I like balance) and going for an all-girl crew (because Amazon Brigade, fuck yeah).
 
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