Your gripes with CoC II

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Forget Me Knot

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Really? Is the MC/PC gender choosable too? I only ask as the thread about TiTs not being enough for straight men mentioned that game.
They are! The game also has an easy-to-access debug menu where you can change everything about them—including their species. If you like breeding/pregnancy content, I’d recommend turning the MC/PC into a demon (at least, a half-demon) because they have the highest natural fertility/virility!
 

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if you could select the gender of all your companions—they don't necessarily have to be the ones from CoC II (it just can be imaginary ones from a possible CoC III)—what would the gender ratio look like?
If they were to be sexable, I'd rather have males. If not, I wouldn't really care much.
Assuming their personalities didn't change and body features were the ones their respective races have:
  • Arona: N/A (chances are a male one wouldn't be appealing to me)
  • Atugia: N/A, with a slight leaning to male
  • Azyrran: male.
  • Berwyn: N/A (not appealing to me, but I'll appreciate him having a more manageable knob size)
  • Brint: N/A (not appealing to me)
  • Cait: N/A with a slight leaning to male
  • Etheryn: N/A, with a slight leaning to male
  • Kiyoko: N/A, but I'd like to see her as a male (as it'd make for an interesting take for a pregophile, be it as mpreg or as someone who wishes to see Champions bearing)
  • Quin: male
 
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All dominant women, some like Cotton where she may not be fully dominant, she is more in charge than MC during their sexual encounters or Lady Evergreen.. I'd then do away with all the snowflakes.
 

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Now don't get me wrong—I have nothing against Brienne personally. I just wish that she was her own separate character, instead, because I just don't wanna do my boy Brint dirty like that by essentially tossing him aside. He's my champion's lovable bro husband—her brosband if you will. To make him put on the cursed armor—knowing what will happen—would feel like betrayal.

If Brienne was, say, Brint's long-lost twin sister, on the other hand, well :catte:
I often wonder how integral the cursed armor incident really is to Brienne's personality and Wsan's plans for her, because I also find the betrayal of Brint's trust hard to stomach. If you could chose Brienne from the get go I'd have her present on half or more of my save files instead of only as a part of a dedicated corrupt asshole run. Can be as simple as a silly little "lo, there be a big moo kicking ass, and as you inch closer you see that it is a gent/lady" kind of introduction.

At everyone who cares to answer: if you could select the gender of all your companions—they don't necessarily have to be the ones from CoC II (it just can be imaginary ones from a possible CoC III)—what would the gender ratio look like? All guys? (LOL.) All girls? (The most likely outcome probably.) Or some sort of mix?
A mix, likely a bit skewed towards feminine looking characters. So for the current CoC2 roster I'd gender-swap one or two of the girls per run, at the same time changing one of the dudes to balance it out. Atugia as a lad would have been so damn funny and endearing, while a male version of Kyoko would have been the one good foxman we have to do without atm; and I'd never say no to fem!Quin fulfilling all of my bunny girl fantasies.
 
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Ryn, for example—their gender is an integral aspect of them and, thus, making their gender optional would only do a disservice to their story.
Really? While it does play some role in her story, it is not really that pronounced. Everyone treats her as a girl and no one makes fus about her being half sex. Like, only Hethia gives her shit for that and it was only out of spite for her people as a whole.

That's fair. Ideally, I think it would be pretty neat if every companion was gender selectable since, that way, everyone could be happy—and it wouldn't feel as if the world was against male companions, asdfghjkl (stay strong, Quin). I understand why it isn't doable, though, because that would mean double the workload. Plus, for certain characters—like Ryn, for example—their gender is an integral aspect of them and, thus, making their gender optional would only do a disservice to their story.

Might be cool to add for a potential new game in the distant future, though. Who knows!

At everyone who cares to answer: if you could select the gender of all your companions—they don't necessarily have to be the ones from CoC II (it just can be imaginary ones from a possible CoC III)—what would the gender ratio look like? All guys? (LOL.) All girls? (The most likely outcome probably.) Or some sort of mix? :iiam:

I would swing between going for a mix (because I like balance) and going for an all-girl crew (because Amazon Brigade, fuck yeah).
Berwyn- (C)boy
Cait- guy
Brienne- girl
Kiyoko- Kiyoko
Quint- better personality (guy)
Atugia - guy
Ryn - dickgirl
Einin -girl
Azy - girl
Ahmir - dickgirl
Arona - same but dedicked inside of the story
 

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At everyone who cares to answer: if you could select the gender of all your companions—they don't necessarily have to be the ones from CoC II (it just can be imaginary ones from a possible CoC III)—what would the gender ratio look like? All guys? (LOL.) All girls? (The most likely outcome probably.) Or some sort of mix? :iiam:

Meh, for me nothing why fuck with such hard work.

I have a question: When Alissa flees the city she drops her Spear and crown when Ryn shoots her and she falls off the roof, but it doesn't mention that she grabbed em, so how does she stil have the crown?
 

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Unless I'm missing something here (and no doubt I am as there's clearly stuff happening behind the scenes) I don't think not being attached to his physical masculinity means it's a Go to just turn the dude into a chick even optionally.
I'm gonna probably get kicked in the face for pushing it even in a gripe thread, but gonna add to this that when I snooped on Hug's twitter he revealed his plans for Berry and that yes he was banned from the forums and wasn't one who left voluntarily and had no way of telling anyone that. I'm gonna forever squint at Berry's production from this point as that just confirms that it's all against his wishes and he is not okay with what's going on with him. It seems things weren't as complicated as was stated. And frankly I wish it was just stated that Hugs wasn't allowed to write for him anymore rather than this whole beating around the bush/staying silent that went on. Because for the longest time I genuinely didn't know what was going on and thus only had his twitter to go off of. I thought the dude just up and left.

Regardless of the Berry in the game not being his anymore, I'm just not gonna touch the guy after hearing this because frankly the whole thing kinda accelerated my eyestrain rn. I guess there's some comfort in seeing that he's still gonna write his own separate stuff of Berry and get art of him and give himself some closure by separating the one in the game from his idea of it, especially since Berry means a lot to him as a character, but man.

(Not to mention this is exactly the sort of thing I feared would happen with these games and the whole policy around abandonware, especially when I had expressed interest in writing for it myself years ago)
 
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Lone Wolf115

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When is Einin being implemented? I keep hearing her name.
Man I do hope she doesn't have the stereotypical thief hardass I'm mean to everyone else complex. Gonna make character just for her like everyone else, here's also hoping for something similar to Kiyoko's tag sex scene, that's compatible for all cat like Champions and something close to that for Lupines as well.
 

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When is Einin being implemented? I keep hearing her name.
We don't know, but William has mentioned having a lot of work to do getting her ready and what we've heard from B about companions suggests that the devs are finalizing all companions ASAP and want them to be ready to slot into existing content. He's probably had to write a lot of stuff for story/dungeon content where Einen can be present based on whenever she's first recruitable. Also he's been busy with TiTS work.

TLDR: :iiam:
Man I do hope she doesn't have the stereotypical thief hardass I'm mean to everyone else complex.
Based on everything that William has said (see here for example) I rather doubt that's what she's going to be like. :p
 
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Based on everything that William has said (see here for example) I rather doubt that's what she's going to be like. :p
Ok thanks I read that. By looking at her already made bust she's a magic thief type. (Going off her dagger which is completely compromised of magic, like the bound dagger spell from Skyrim.)
 

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At everyone who cares to answer: if you could select the gender of all your companions—they don't necessarily have to be the ones from CoC II (it just can be imaginary ones from a possible CoC III)—what would the gender ratio look like? All guys? (LOL.) All girls? (The most likely outcome probably.) Or some sort of mix? :iiam:
Well... Honestly, they'd all probably be femboys, futas, or female, with the exception of Ryn, as a dickgirl. So she's futa adjacent.

Companion by companion, it'd probably be...
Arona: Futa
Atugia: Femboy
Azyrran: Futa
Berwyn: Probably still a femboy, but with a smaller dick
Brint: Futa
Brienne (separate because of how different the two are): Female
Cait: Either femboy or female
Kiyoko: Female
Quint: Femboy
Einen (if she ever comes out): Femboy
Agnimitra (I think B's been saying she's going to be a companion?): Futa
 

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Regarding the question: All female for me. I'm that... predictable.

Regarding gripes: How the heck can Pyro Brienne's conjured flame get disarmed? It's not a physical object, she could just conjure it again. Unless the process of doing that takes the same ammount of time as fetching your weapon off the ground.

My pyro brienne got disarmed by a selkie and the flames were tossed from her hands like a sword... it was funny to say the least.
 

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I assume the real reason is 'because game balance' since it would be broken to have a character completely immune to Disarm.
 
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Regarding gripes: How the heck can Pyro Brienne's conjured flame get disarmed?

I would like to refer to a quote from an unknown forum user who is 100% correct:

They're not actual flames, she's just holding painted rocks that she throws at people while shouting "FIREBALL".
 

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me, thinking about how I don't let Brint anywhere near that cursed armor because I like him just the way he is and vastly prefer him to Brienne:

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Same. His threesome content or the exhibitionist scenes where he bangs Arona/Tui are some of my favorite in the game. It just feels nice having a bro in the game you can double team a stacked racoon milf with. Which is a shame, since Brienne ticks a lot of boxes for me too.
 
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I'm gonna probably get kicked in the face for pushing it even in a gripe thread, but gonna add to this that when I snooped on Hug's twitter he revealed his plans for Berry and that yes he was banned from the forums and wasn't one who left voluntarily and had no way of telling anyone that. I'm gonna forever squint at Berry's production from this point as that just confirms that it's all against his wishes and he is not okay with what's going on with him. It seems things weren't as complicated as was stated. And frankly I wish it was just stated that Hugs wasn't allowed to write for him anymore rather than this whole beating around the bush/staying silent that went on. Because for the longest time I genuinely didn't know what was going on and thus only had his twitter to go off of. I thought the dude just up and left.

Regardless of the Berry in the game not being his anymore, I'm just not gonna touch the guy after hearing this because frankly the whole thing kinda accelerated my eyestrain rn. I guess there's some comfort in seeing that he's still gonna write his own separate stuff of Berry and get art of him and give himself some closure by separating the one in the game from his idea of it, especially since Berry means a lot to him as a character, but man.

(Not to mention this is exactly the sort of thing I feared would happen with these games and the whole policy around abandonware, especially when I had expressed interest in writing for it myself years ago)
He's gone and the character was left incomplete. This then gives whoever took over (B in this case) the right to do whatever they want (within certain limits obviously as some things aren't allowed).
 
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He's gone and the character was left incomplete. This then gives whoever took over (B in this case) the right to do whatever they want (within certain limits obviously as some things aren't allowed).
That is the defacto state of things, yes, because surrendering the control to the devs is the only way anything would get done. If a major contributor could at any point somehow pry their stuff out of the game and leave it would have only led to madness. And in my heart of hearts I find that I'm weak and would often take more content I like over respecting the wishes of the creator.

But at the same time I can see why this can bother people that are really attached to everything they create, especially if they only write as a hobby and thus life has even more ways to get in the way. At least both TiTS and CoC2 are very upfront about the whole arrangement.
 

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He's gone and the character was left incomplete. This then gives whoever took over (B in this case) the right to do whatever they want (within certain limits obviously as some things aren't allowed).
His was kicked out and as a result his character was left incomplete. But sure, minimize it like that. >.>
 
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His was kicked out
Publicly dunking on somebody suffering like him isn't really beneficial to anybody, but no. Hugs kicked himself out in spectacularly toxic fashion and then later got banned everywhere because he decided to start a public toxic outburst when nobody wanted to work with him anymore months later. After B! was starting BerryQuest.

Kindly stop browning your nose in issues into which you have no insight, Em.
 
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To get this thing back on track , i think that the lantern is useless ,there are no severe debuffs to accuracy for walking around in the darkness nor any special places (some caverns / tunnels etc) that would make this item viable.
 
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