Your gripes with CoC II

[redlightnin55]

So, ehh, I hope I'm not stirring up anything taboo here by griping a little about this since I know over on steam people are still complaining about this, but it would be nice if we could still sleep with Berwyn at the inn/camp. I know there's people upset about his removal as a companion and I'm not here to delve into any debate about that, I know that it is what it is. But I did like him and I do miss some of the interactions that were hard-cut when he was shifted out of the companion role. Might help placate some of the other people who miss him too.

I figure since it's possible for our character to travel to and from the tower, you could make it possible to do the reverse too. And install a tiredness sensor or something so Berwyn knows when to pop out. I don't know... You could reuse the old interactions for those who kept Berwyn the same or nearly the same, then just do simple variants for those who chose a more different Berwyn. I imagine the only heavily modified/original ones needed would be for those who made Berwyn completely female or made him/her a sub, but I admit I'm not privy to the stuff on how the variants are managed behind the scenes.

But there's my gripe about Berwyn. If I'm stepping on some no-no areas, I apologize. I really don't mean to stir up anything.

I do have one other gripe though. Why the heck can't we get Ahmri pregnant yet? She seems pretty darn willing and there's literally bits and pieces in sex scenes with her that tease the player with the possibility! lol I feel like she's such old content now, but I still absolutely adore her and wish she had just that little bit more to really seal the deal, like how Atani can get pregnant and even had a tiny bit of added content recently.

 

[Elfyr]

The start is extremely confusing. I am just beginning the game, exploring a bit for the first time and characters talk to me as if I encountered them before and they know me well.

The first instance of it is with Gwyn, Garth's daughter.
"You came," she says, a little out of breath. "I was getting worried."
Okay, I just woke up from a week long nap so she may be worried about me being in a coma or something but it still feels too familiar and close.
"Like I told you before, donations are always welcome."
First time I see, she couldn't have told me before.

I just came back from the Forest and get ambushed by Atugia, the Runic Knight. She keeps talking about Carmen and although I did hear about her name and that's she's the Baroness, I don't know her at all yet.
"Earlier in the castle she mentioned she was human"
Which castle? I never went to one yet, just the temple at the start of the game.
"You ask Atugia how she came to the Frost Marches. If you remember correctly her home is rather far from the Frost Marches."
I don't know where she is from, at all. (It may be due to the fact that the "Baroness" conversation is locked behind the "Trip" one and not vice-versa. She does talk where she's from in the "Baroness" one.)
Atuiga also keeps talking about the godswar and I have absolutely no clue what that. I can't even ask her or check in the Codex.​

It really seems like Gwyn was supposed to have dialogues so you get to know her before the orphanage is built. Unfortunately, the orphanage is already built at the start of the game and I don't see any way to talk to her for the first time.

Atugia, on the other hand, seems to come from later in the game and her dialogues weren't changed to reflect that.

 

[The Observer]

The first instance of it is with Gwyn, Garth's daughter.
"You came," she says, a little out of breath. "I was getting worried."
Okay, I just woke up from a week long nap so she may be worried about me being in a coma or something but it still feels too familiar and close.
"Like I told you before, donations are always welcome."
First time I see, she couldn't have told me before.

I can answer this, if nothing else. You meet her in the introduction, before the whole business with the storm and then afterwards, too, so you're expected to know each other. She actually did tell you this before, but that was cut when the bit about the nursery was made part of the intro so players couldn't not know about it. Simple fix of a couple phrases, that's all.

 

[Elfyr]

Yeah, that's fair. I did think about this scenario, since it's said that the PC has been in the inn for some time but it still felt a bit weird when I first read her dialogue.

 

[Tide Hunter]

I can answer this, if nothing else. You meet her in the introduction, before the whole business with the storm and then afterwards, too, so you're expected to know each other. She actually did tell you this before, but that was cut when the bit about the nursery was made part of the intro so players couldn't not know about it. Simple fix of a couple phrases, that's all.

While the intro does state that you got to know Garth and Gwyn in the intro, she was pregnant then, and gave birth/built the nursery while we were unconscious, so the "Like I told you before" line should probably get changed.

 

[Orange Juice Jones]

Not enough scenes with Klemaia
She needs more, I need more.

 

[Elfyr]

I have encountered Etheryn as a companion. My first instinct was to talk to her as fully as possible and see what companions think of her. Once again, Atugia poses problem and, I'm fairly sure, is spoiling me that Etheryn has got a chastity cage by saying:

"On the other hand. If I could go back in time and beat her sisters jealous ass silly for puttin' that horrid cage on her. When we finally get that blasted thing off we'll need to do something to make up for all those years of lost time. She's such a cutie and she doesn't deserve that kind of torture at all!"

More importantly, Etheryn let me see finally see Carmen. And a discrepancy arises... again.

"The baroness steps out from the shadowy hall. She is much as you remember her from the last time you met"

I didn't understand why the Baronness and Atugia had such weird and contradicting dialogues. I wanted to know why but I couldn't find anything on Google. But at last, I found it when creating a new character:

You can encounter Atuiga either by going to Castle Hawkstone or by being assaulted in town.

The thing is, if you get to level 2 before going to the Castle, you get attacked by Atugia in the middle of town. It has unique dialogue and interactions, it is pretty nice. However, ALL the rest of her dialogue is written as if you fought her in front of the Castle.

For new players, the start is rough since Atuiga really broke continuity there. I really hope there isn't too much discrepancy after that

 

[Melon_ear]

What with needing Tui to progress Lumiaquest it's likely that she will get a third recruitment path for the people who visited the castle before she jumped them. Coming somewhere between this version and version 1.0

 

[Tide Hunter]

What with needing Tui to progress Lumiaquest it's likely that she will get a third recruitment path for the people who visited the castle before she jumped them. Coming somewhere between this version and version 1.0

That doesn't seem possible, y'know. I assume you mean Carmen's place, and, if you go there, either you've already recruited Tui from her attacking you, or you're getting attacked by Tui there and will recruit her there. If you visit Carmen, you will have fought Atugia.

 

[Melon_ear]

If you went to the castle before she jumps, eg you did it in a save from before her second recruitment was added, and don't want to fuck her you are shit out of luck.
Her new recruitment was really clunkily implemented. It would have been better to have Carmen offer her contract to you when you visit her after sorting out whatever threats ht was facing. Would have been more development for Carmen in her taking steps to indirectly try and attone for all the shit that went down in ht that she could not have interffered with due to her pacifism. More than she already did in making you champ of ht, or at all if you refuse anyway. And if you refuse she could just "keep it on the table" in case you change your mind.

 

[DJ_Arashi_Rora]

How do y'all feel about the, um, often-meaty tooltips that I use - for smut scenes and for everything else?

They are my jam more info is fantastic.

 

[Gardeford]

Coming this mayternity!

I do have one other gripe though. Why the heck can't we get Ahmri pregnant yet? She seems pretty darn willing and there's literally bits and pieces in sex scenes with her that tease the player with the possibility! lol I feel like she's such old content now, but I still absolutely adore her and wish she had just that little bit more to really seal the deal, like how Atani can get pregnant and even had a tiny bit of added content recently.

It's something i've always intended to do as an expansion for mayternity, but didn't want to do it the first year after she came out.

 

[Gardeford]

I have encountered Etheryn as a companion. My first instinct was to talk to her as fully as possible and see what companions think of her. Once again, Atugia poses problem and, I'm fairly sure, is spoiling me that Etheryn has got a chastity cage by saying:

"On the other hand. If I could go back in time and beat her sisters jealous ass silly for puttin' that horrid cage on her. When we finally get that blasted thing off we'll need to do something to make up for all those years of lost time. She's such a cutie and she doesn't deserve that kind of torture at all!"

More importantly, Etheryn let me see finally see Carmen. And a discrepancy arises... again.

"The baroness steps out from the shadowy hall. She is much as you remember her from the last time you met"

I didn't understand why the Baronness and Atugia had such weird and contradicting dialogues. I wanted to know why but I couldn't find anything on Google. But at last, I found it when creating a new character:

You can encounter Atuiga either by going to Castle Hawkstone or by being assaulted in town.

The thing is, if you get to level 2 before going to the Castle, you get attacked by Atugia in the middle of town. It has unique dialogue and interactions, it is pretty nice. However, ALL the rest of her dialogue is written as if you fought her in front of the Castle.

For new players, the start is rough since Atuiga really broke continuity there. I really hope there isn't too much discrepancy after that

There shouldn't be after that, but i'm fixing some of the things you've mentioned like the cage mention and the trip talk. However as far as i can see on a fresh playthrough, the baroness talk isnt locked behind trip and comes before it in the menu, so im not sure what was up with that. I'm mentioning that trip should be locked behind it, though.

Talking about the godswar isnt really a tui problem in this case. It's something the pc knows that much about even when the player doesn't, so that's up to a codex being added at a later date.

 

[CuteBruiser]

I recently found the "Your joys with CoC II" thread from a while back, and I'd like to gripe about the fact that it's not pinned.

Sometimes I just want to be positive and gush about how great some parts of the game are, and from some of the recent posts on the forum, other people do too.

 

[Dragoonofd]

My only gripes with this whole game is the Further you go into the kitsune storyline the more you wonder why the Champion is even there.

It gets to the point that you have really no reason to even be there due having no say in anything at all and that even goes as far as any real time with your first born daughter.

Before freeing them choices felt real and meanful but later it feels hallow and Meaningless to even be there. It started as great story but now feels hallow for the MC point of view.

 

[SmithEK]

Maybe I've missed it but no variant/dialogue for Bimbo champ in Kitsune content.

 

[Dragoonofd]

Maybe I've missed it but no variant/dialogue for Bimbo champ in Kitsune content.

Nothing I have seen yet

 

[Dragoonofd]

On topic of kitsune story got one question for the writer.

Nihonjindesu ka? Anata wa nihongo o hanasemasu ka?
Sesshōseki ni itta koto ga arimasu ka?

 

[wery12345]

Tobs doesn't really do bimbo, that's more alypias thing.

 

[redlightnin55]

Coming this mayternity!

It's something i've always intended to do as an expansion for mayternity, but didn't want to do it the first year after she came out.

Hell yeah! That's what I like to hear! Thank you kindly for the work.

 

[CasualAntlerEnjoyer]

I find myself disappointed that there wasn't a chance to do the transylvania tango with the baron/count/dracula/whatever-the-hell from our adventures in cleaning out lumia's basement.

A terrible tragedy.


Also getting passed over with the wraith killer sword. Tui doesn't even know what to do with that, it needs to be wielded with purpose. Instead Lumia just tries to pawn off some dead idiot's floating butter knives. Typical Seven tom-foolery.

 

[WolframL]

Speak for yourself, my Champ is quite enjoying her new spear that does a good job offsetting some of her glass cannon-ness.

And Tui doesn't have 'a sword' so much as she has a couple fragments of a sword, which the Champ can't exactly use on their own. The rest of the sword on the other hand you can have, it's called the Dawnsword and there's a whole quest involving it.

 

[Zackflame]

Are you saying the fragmented sword belongs to the Dawnsword?
If so, why is it not being returned to make it whole

 

[CasualAntlerEnjoyer]

If so, why is it not being returned to make it whole

Probably the exact reason I want the completed piece to be perfectly honest.

And Tui doesn't have 'a sword' so much as she has a couple fragments of a sword, which the Champ can't exactly use on their own. The rest of the sword on the other hand you can have, it's called the Dawnsword and there's a whole quest involving it.

AH, I thought the original sword had somehow split into two seperate blades because magic nonsense. This does make a bit more sense.

Anyhow, the dawnsword is nice and all, but it's just lacking that certain something that the full article apparently is capable of.

 

[pinkcaitgang]

So, I feel like, recently, there have been a lot of "human" character additions, generally with a few generic sex options like "Missionary", "Titfuck", et cetera. But I can't help but feel that there hasn't been a lot of creativity with the writing, and that the game CoC2 isn't really playing to its strengths.
Like, where are all the monster girls? The creative fetishes that can stem from them? Where's the scylla that tentacles your ass while you fuck her? Where's the lamia that uses her long tongue to idk, tongue your urethra or something? There are all of these cool options with monster girls, kind of the highlight of Corruption of Champions, that don't seem to be being explored, in favor of repeated and somewhat generic humanoid types.

I think I'm just struggling to grow attached to and read the backstory of every new character that's added, when most of them seem very similar and don't provide much unique from a sexual context. My favorite characters have generally been those with sex scenes that were unique and memorable enough to leave an impact on me. We could have several lamias, each with differing personalities that have different sex options but written in unique and creative ways to cater to their unique anatomy. The game of course has done this, it just feels like the most recent updates have done it less and less. Idk, maybe I'm crazy.
edit - not saying i want more lamias specifically just saying in general more monster girls as opposed to humanoids seems like a good idea

 

[Regardless]

I wanted my charater to be a bimboi but despite setting the gender/ pronouns to be male everyone still calls them she.

 

[Shrike675]

Bimbo brew forces female pronouns, gotta manually make yourself look like one minus the personality.

 

[Regardless]

Bimbo brew forces female pronouns, gotta manually make yourself look like one minus the personality.

I went the bimbo honey route so it doesn't change my appearance. The character looks like a chubby femboi and I wanted the bimbo personality to go with it but I didn't know it still forced female pronouns too.
Seems unecessary and silly personally, I do like feminisation but I'm not a fan of locking being a happy slut to female only.

 

[arch99]

I went the bimbo honey route so it doesn't change my appearance. The character looks like a chubby femboi and I wanted the bimbo personality to go with it but I didn't know it still forced female pronouns too.
Seems unecessary and silly personally, I do like feminisation but I'm not a fan of locking being a happy slut to female only.

I totally understand this opinion, getting to be the gender you want is good, but I believe it largely comes down to normalization for writers. There's a good post on these forums somewhere that someone will hopefully go find for me if they read this where someone talks about how writing a scene specific to people tagged as minotaurs is great, cause it means they'll be large, muscly, have a snout, have big horns, have a dick, use he/him pronouns, generally enjoy being called a stud or so on, and that makes you able to write a much more specific scene. I would say the bimbo thing is part of the same idea, knowing that anyone who's tagged as bimbo is going to enjoy being referred to by feminine terms and so on. I can totally get why it's disappointing, though, and I'm sorry you won't be able to manage your bimboi dreams.

 

[WolframL]

There's a good post on these forums somewhere that someone will hopefully go find for me if they read this

Ever at the forum's service. xD It's this post by Wsan.