Your gripes with CoC II

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Dragoonofd

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My only gripes with this whole game is the Further you go into the kitsune storyline the more you wonder why the Champion is even there.

It gets to the point that you have really no reason to even be there due having no say in anything at all and that even goes as far as any real time with your first born daughter.

Before freeing them choices felt real and meanful but later it feels hallow and Meaningless to even be there. It started as great story but now feels hallow for the MC point of view.
 

SmithEK

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Maybe I've missed it but no variant/dialogue for Bimbo champ in Kitsune content.
 

Dragoonofd

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On topic of kitsune story got one question for the writer.

Nihonjindesu ka? Anata wa nihongo o hanasemasu ka?
Sesshōseki ni itta koto ga arimasu ka?
 
I find myself disappointed that there wasn't a chance to do the transylvania tango with the baron/count/dracula/whatever-the-hell from our adventures in cleaning out lumia's basement.

A terrible tragedy.


Also getting passed over with the wraith killer sword. Tui doesn't even know what to do with that, it needs to be wielded with purpose. Instead Lumia just tries to pawn off some dead idiot's floating butter knives. Typical Seven tom-foolery.
 
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WolframL

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Speak for yourself, my Champ is quite enjoying her new spear that does a good job offsetting some of her glass cannon-ness.

And Tui doesn't have 'a sword' so much as she has a couple fragments of a sword, which the Champ can't exactly use on their own. The rest of the sword on the other hand you can have, it's called the Dawnsword and there's a whole quest involving it. :p
 

Zackflame

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Are you saying the fragmented sword belongs to the Dawnsword?
If so, why is it not being returned to make it whole
 
If so, why is it not being returned to make it whole

Probably the exact reason I want the completed piece to be perfectly honest.

And Tui doesn't have 'a sword' so much as she has a couple fragments of a sword, which the Champ can't exactly use on their own. The rest of the sword on the other hand you can have, it's called the Dawnsword and there's a whole quest involving it.
AH, I thought the original sword had somehow split into two seperate blades because magic nonsense. This does make a bit more sense.

Anyhow, the dawnsword is nice and all, but it's just lacking that certain something that the full article apparently is capable of.
 

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So, I feel like, recently, there have been a lot of "human" character additions, generally with a few generic sex options like "Missionary", "Titfuck", et cetera. But I can't help but feel that there hasn't been a lot of creativity with the writing, and that the game CoC2 isn't really playing to its strengths.
Like, where are all the monster girls? The creative fetishes that can stem from them? Where's the scylla that tentacles your ass while you fuck her? Where's the lamia that uses her long tongue to idk, tongue your urethra or something? There are all of these cool options with monster girls, kind of the highlight of Corruption of Champions, that don't seem to be being explored, in favor of repeated and somewhat generic humanoid types.

I think I'm just struggling to grow attached to and read the backstory of every new character that's added, when most of them seem very similar and don't provide much unique from a sexual context. My favorite characters have generally been those with sex scenes that were unique and memorable enough to leave an impact on me. We could have several lamias, each with differing personalities that have different sex options but written in unique and creative ways to cater to their unique anatomy. The game of course has done this, it just feels like the most recent updates have done it less and less. Idk, maybe I'm crazy.
edit - not saying i want more lamias specifically just saying in general more monster girls as opposed to humanoids seems like a good idea
 

Regardless

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I wanted my charater to be a bimboi but despite setting the gender/ pronouns to be male everyone still calls them she.
 

Shrike675

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Bimbo brew forces female pronouns, gotta manually make yourself look like one minus the personality.
 

Regardless

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Bimbo brew forces female pronouns, gotta manually make yourself look like one minus the personality.
I went the bimbo honey route so it doesn't change my appearance. The character looks like a chubby femboi and I wanted the bimbo personality to go with it but I didn't know it still forced female pronouns too.
Seems unecessary and silly personally, I do like feminisation but I'm not a fan of locking being a happy slut to female only.
 
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arch99

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I went the bimbo honey route so it doesn't change my appearance. The character looks like a chubby femboi and I wanted the bimbo personality to go with it but I didn't know it still forced female pronouns too.
Seems unecessary and silly personally, I do like feminisation but I'm not a fan of locking being a happy slut to female only.
I totally understand this opinion, getting to be the gender you want is good, but I believe it largely comes down to normalization for writers. There's a good post on these forums somewhere that someone will hopefully go find for me if they read this where someone talks about how writing a scene specific to people tagged as minotaurs is great, cause it means they'll be large, muscly, have a snout, have big horns, have a dick, use he/him pronouns, generally enjoy being called a stud or so on, and that makes you able to write a much more specific scene. I would say the bimbo thing is part of the same idea, knowing that anyone who's tagged as bimbo is going to enjoy being referred to by feminine terms and so on. I can totally get why it's disappointing, though, and I'm sorry you won't be able to manage your bimboi dreams.
 
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Having done all the G-Wolf Family quests multiple times due to the decision to gate main quest progression behind Dog Days, Winter Wolf being a long one and the fact we need to do Shades of the Past to finish WW, I can safely say that was not a very fun content block to overcome. More than once, I would read it and think, "Uh, you know you're writing for a porno game, right?" So much drama, and probably the darkest thing we have to deal with in the whole game during the flashback.

Also it kind of tied into my major gripe with Kinu getting so much dedicated content to herself that is kept completely separate from us -- most of the time with the Wolf Fam and all the time with Kinu, I felt like my character was more of a bystander for other people's drama. It was written like it was made for a completely different game, maybe a George R. R. Martin thing. I mean, it's not like I hate any of the characters, but I don't really like being suddenly interrupted in the middle of a thing to suddenly astral project into my imaginary daughter's body for events I'm not at all sure of the outcome of.
 

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While I see where you are all coming from, I still think that Regardless has a point and that Wsans explanation does not really feel like a sufficent enough of a justification for as to why allowing Bimbo champs to keep male pronouns should not be allowed.

First, you already know what to expect when you chose to take the Bimbo pill. Unlike our milk toast, run of the mill, zero corruption ass which fills to wide of a gap to be anything sort of distinct niche, DK and Bimbos are (relatively) well defined:. For the former there are not many assumptions one can make without steering into directions that some players would find questionable, the other two champs are more RP friendly since:
1)DK are assholes/bad guys and bad girls that keep getting away with it.
2)Bimbos are pure hearted beings that are as care free as they are absentminded. They also take on more feminine characteristics.
And unlike the comment that Wsan was replying to, accounting for DK and Bimbo personality is a expected part of the writing compared to individual races.

All this is to say, while I can understand that expectations when someone hears a Bimbo is that they posses female pronouns, that does not really mean that we really need to follow that precedent. After all, if someone likes to RP as a big buff guy that just happens to do little twirls while hopping into battle, let them. If they end up not liking it, a person can always opt out of being a bimbo by reloading a save.

That is how I see it.
 
darkest thing we have to deal with in the whole game during the flashback.
Only in the direct sense, the darkest part is probably the setting itself if you take a moment to look at the cosmology of it all. The world itself is actually fairly grimdark if you get down to it.
 

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Just as a quick aside:

Personally, I like the term "Himbo" a lot more than "Bimboi"

Then again, you could say that a Bimboi eventually grows up to be a proper Himbo, but that's neither here nor there :p
 
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Kesil

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I suspect one's Johnny Bravo and the other one's the kind that would have Innocent Allure in TiTS.
 

arch99

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Himbo = big, strong, good, nice, handsome, not the brightest dude.

Bimboi = bimbo traits but on a guy. Curvy, ditzy, slutty, etc. Things not connoted by himbo as a phrase. In the same way herbo was coined as the female version of a himbo, a woman who is big, strong, good, nice, etc.
 

arch99

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While I see where you are all coming from, I still think that Regardless has a point and that Wsans explanation does not really feel like a sufficent enough of a justification for as to why allowing Bimbo champs to keep male pronouns should not be allowed.

First, you already know what to expect when you chose to take the Bimbo pill. Unlike our milk toast, run of the mill, zero corruption ass which fills to wide of a gap to be anything sort of distinct niche, DK and Bimbos are (relatively) well defined:. For the former there are not many assumptions one can make without steering into directions that some players would find questionable, the other two champs are more RP friendly since:
1)DK are assholes/bad guys and bad girls that keep getting away with it.
2)Bimbos are pure hearted beings that are as care free as they are absentminded. They also take on more feminine characteristics.
And unlike the comment that Wsan was replying to, accounting for DK and Bimbo personality is a expected part of the writing compared to individual races.

All this is to say, while I can understand that expectations when someone hears a Bimbo is that they posses female pronouns, that does not really mean that we really need to follow that precedent. After all, if someone likes to RP as a big buff guy that just happens to do little twirls while hopping into battle, let them. If they end up not liking it, a person can always opt out of being a bimbo by reloading a save.

That is how I see it.
Yeah I mean I certainly don't have an ideological objection to it. Nor any objection whatsoever. I was explaining why I would guess it's not implemented that way. And that would require a huge amount of rewriting.
 

SmithEK

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I always think bimbo as female.. I've met a few simple women IRL but never a dumb bloke.
 

arch99

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No, he said he never met a stupid man IRL.

Come on, it was a single sentence.
1) Emily is a woman, "she", come on it's a single name.
2) My point was clearly that that was an incredibly misogynist position and ridiculous, not to mention clearly untrue. Unless you've spent your entire life only seeing about 5 people, you will have met a stupid man.
 
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