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Your gripes with CoC II
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Kind of wish there was a two week lock on a lot of the kitsune content, particularly Kinu and Takahiro events, including the kinu's engagement. It's just jarring to free your family and LITERALLY THE DAY AFTER you start getting flashback scenes like they've been free for weeks. Or the kitsune treat you like you are already an established presence, like in the Takahiro starting event scenes. The progression is just off.
Would be also nice if we could disable them like Takahiros. They really take me out of experience by focusing on someone that is not champion. Which funnily enough makes them somewhat more annoying since at least Taka has good enough pretense to not remove us entirely from equation, even if they are much less appealing otherwise.
Maybe have them be part of Kinus talks. Like [How was your day] and they transition into her perspective. Kind of like how Kiyoko does with her Keros stories.
Maybe have them be part of Kinus talks. Like [How was your day] and they transition into her perspective. Kind of like how Kiyoko does with her Keros stories.
That sounds like probably the best way to have it. Admittedly, it could make it easy to miss, but at the same time, it's something you can be much more in control of, and makes sense as it'd be tied to being interested in her story rather than being forced into it.
Yeah, it would be very helpful. I mean her story's interesting enough but making it move is really hard especially when we can't see the conditions necessary to trigger it.
Mind you I wish we could play or at least pet our other Kitsune kids a little too. Something like how the Nursery in TiTS lets us interact with our kids.
Mind you I wish we could play or at least pet our other Kitsune kids a little too. Something like how the Nursery in TiTS lets us interact with our kids.
Off-topic, is there a possibility to thicken Cait without making her boobs bigger? I like thick Cait except for her big boobs cause her max boobs just look really weird and disproportionate (I know leocait is an option but I like her catfolk form and her original E-cup boob). Perhaps like the way Ryn works where you can make only her boobs big or only her butts and thighs big (making only selective parts big)?
It's probably a no but just wanted to ask.
It's probably a no but just wanted to ask.
OK, I have been enjoying Quin expansion (despite its many shortcomings) but I have one of three major gripe to ask: Why is Quinn still wearing his cultists robes? Like for what purpose besides it giving him that bad boy edge? He is trying to convince people that he is a good guy and trustworthy yet it never hit him that -- maybe -- he should not present himself in clout of people he claims to be against? Every time he was targeted by some random passers by I just wanted to go over there, shove him into my room and yell at him "If you do not want to be seen as a bad guy, do not dress like one!". Like I get that I am supposed to side with the bunny boy, but he is not exactly helping his case, you see?
Honestly, Quinn being a former cultist really feels tacked on the more I read through. At least the interactions were nice.
Honestly, Quinn being a former cultist really feels tacked on the more I read through. At least the interactions were nice.
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He's got a lot more to say during quests involving the cult now that flesh that out. Outside of those he doesn't really bring it up.
Yes, I read through it and no -- it really does not justify it to me. Quinn being a cultist, as it is being presented in the quest, barely goes beyond surface level appeal of having a former "bad guy"/supposed adversary/occult inclined individual as a party member. He honestly does not need to be one to be interesting: special magic, training to be an assassin and being part nobility is more than enough for a compelling pathos. Adding cult on top of that, especially in the way that is in text, just feels superficial.
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Honestly, for me Quinn being an ex-cultist is the most interesting thing about him. With his limited sex scenes and bent towards dominance to the point of having 0 anal catching scenes, he has nothing that all the rest of the party can't give me. The cult thing at least gives him some pathos and dialogue options during quests where the Cult shows up.
At least the rework gave him more synergy with the rest of the party by making it so everyone is damaging the same health bar.
At least the rework gave him more synergy with the rest of the party by making it so everyone is damaging the same health bar.
This post is from June. Also it says right at the start that they know characters are missing, but more importantly why are you responding to a post from 2 months ago?
I agree that on surface him being a cultist is the most interesting thing, but, as I noted, it feels like a surface level appeal. The game really tries to justify him joining the cult in the most flimsiest of ways.
"Oh, he did not know any better what he was signing up to."
"Oh, he was just a messenger"
"He got duped"
"Despite joining an organization that through out the game was showcased as nothing more than a vile pit of scum and villainy, he is just the dandiest guy."
The game really tries to paint him as "not like the other girls" that you start to wonder why was he part of the cult if he is apparently nothing like them.
"A vile pit o scum and villainy" feels like giving them to much credit. They're sex cult, Tollus and his inner circle might be playing for world domination as they seem to be the only remotely competent ones. The rest of the cultist seem to be complete idiots. In a scenario where he has no money, no job, nothing better to do and completely unaware of the shit that went down 20 years ago, I could see Quint coming up north(as it's apparently the place for jobless, hawkless adventurers to be) stumbling upon the sex cult, realizing that they're mostly gullible morons following a dickhead spouting what he thinks is complete nonsense and joins in for the free sex and easy work. Only after that cult sacrifices a young girl to a portal and summons an actual demon and that demon starts wrecking the place and turning other people into demons does he realize that the dickhhead wasn't spouting complete nonsense and that he's made a terrible mistake by following a crowd of idiots.
While that could maybe work if the cult was something that only sprung up recently, they are not. They were always acting shady and dubious as we find in Gweyr quest, they always had a tendency to brainwash people into joining them and just look at what they wear. And even before that, the way they were always presented as unabashedly evil. There is just so much disconnect between what Quinn claims the cult to have been and what it actually was/is.
So it is hard to believe that a person, especially the one that game claims to be smart and perceptive as Quinn, can not put two and two together.
The issue as I see it is that there's a good deal of genre dissonance between Quin's storyline and the rest of the game, when it comes to the cult.
In Quin's story, we get the sense that the cult operates as real-life cults actually do - they're predatory organizations that draw potential members in by manipulating them and exploiting their weak points. Real-life cults never show potential members the worst stuff first, they lure them in with promises and reasonable-seeming ideas.
In contrast, a lot of the game otherwise presents the cult more like cults frequently appear in RPGs - a religion of "for the evulz" that you'd have to be either malicious or stupid to join.
In Quin's story, we get the sense that the cult operates as real-life cults actually do - they're predatory organizations that draw potential members in by manipulating them and exploiting their weak points. Real-life cults never show potential members the worst stuff first, they lure them in with promises and reasonable-seeming ideas.
In contrast, a lot of the game otherwise presents the cult more like cults frequently appear in RPGs - a religion of "for the evulz" that you'd have to be either malicious or stupid to join.
Yeah, that is what I am saying. Quinn and his version of cult have little to no correlation to games version of same names group. Which is just messy.
For the most part, the cult interactions we've seen are after their demon goddess emerged from her portal and started turning them into mindless corrupted fuckpuppets. It's actually Quin's stated reason for fleeing from the cult in the first place. Presumably, before Tollus ended up with "oops! Kasyrra's here!", they were a little cleverer and more sedate.
It's implied that after Tollus' first big cult push in Hawkethorne, he decided to change tactics again, unable to get away with overt pushes for power as he'd done before. So he simply kept things on the down-low, quietly getting his immortality juice and enthralling susceptible Marchers to his cause. If Kasyrra hadn't shown up, he probably would've kept doing his Pastor Mike shtick indefinitely (or until he found some new way to suborn Hawkethorne). The reason we don't get this impression from anyone other than Quin is because we don't really talk to anyone who would've seen the cult in that way - most of the rest of the cultists have been turned into full-on demons by now, or are slavishly following same.
It's implied that after Tollus' first big cult push in Hawkethorne, he decided to change tactics again, unable to get away with overt pushes for power as he'd done before. So he simply kept things on the down-low, quietly getting his immortality juice and enthralling susceptible Marchers to his cause. If Kasyrra hadn't shown up, he probably would've kept doing his Pastor Mike shtick indefinitely (or until he found some new way to suborn Hawkethorne). The reason we don't get this impression from anyone other than Quin is because we don't really talk to anyone who would've seen the cult in that way - most of the rest of the cultists have been turned into full-on demons by now, or are slavishly following same.
I just can not really see it. Everything that game shows and refers to points to them always being scummy and not that subtle.
It is only Quinns that has anything other to say in contrary. His descriptions and justifications combined with their inherit vagueness just leave me with questions.
It feels like the game tries to hard to justify his actions; to scrub any stain that could possibly soil him any wrong or morally questionable light. Which just does not mesh well with him being a part of a cult, no matter how unassuming his intentions were.
I really hope his next expansion does better job in presenting some consequences/justifications, both meta and in text, to his actions of joining the cult. Since, as it is now, it all just feels like drama without much backing it up.
It is only Quinns that has anything other to say in contrary. His descriptions and justifications combined with their inherit vagueness just leave me with questions.
It feels like the game tries to hard to justify his actions; to scrub any stain that could possibly soil him any wrong or morally questionable light. Which just does not mesh well with him being a part of a cult, no matter how unassuming his intentions were.
I really hope his next expansion does better job in presenting some consequences/justifications, both meta and in text, to his actions of joining the cult. Since, as it is now, it all just feels like drama without much backing it up.
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I'm a little annoyed about the fact that you can't access the TFs that Nash sells until you get to Khor'minos so it would have been nice if they either made them accessible somewhere earlier in the game or have Nash use the Way Between to travels between Hawkthorne and Khor'minos so you can have earlier access to his wares, like when you're creating a new character for a new/different experience. (especially when new TFs are added) instead of having to wait for the unofficial CoC2 Save Editor to update for it.
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This is a very minor gripe, but I think the height TFs need a tweak, or an addition. It is hard to get one's ideal height through such a TF because of the dramatic leaps in height gain/loss. It only works without a save-scum spree when someone wants the extreme end in height gain/loss or are looking to gain/lose in about six to nine (aha) inch increments.
Lowering the amount or adding in an additional set of height TFs would make it a finer tool for getting the exact measurements a player wants.
Lowering the amount or adding in an additional set of height TFs would make it a finer tool for getting the exact measurements a player wants.
The way I was interpreting it was that the cult was not being overtly evil for nearly twenty years since the Hawkthorne incident. That's why no one suspected much when one person a year would end up going missing to be their sacrifice.
The inner circle would be the only ones aware of the true plans and they would sweet talk and manipulate others to join for more simplistic reasons. To indoctrinate them gradually into that inner circle that would be hedonistic and heinous enough for evil tasks like sacrificing a virgin.
Quinn says how he wasn't there at the temple when Calla was kidnapped, so wouldn't have been brainwashed enough to be in the inner circle. Then Kasyrra showed up to everyone and corrupted nearly all of them. Quinn recognized how bad this was at this point and immediately fled, showing that anyone that disagreed was hunted down to likely be either killed or corrupted.
This is a minor thing but I wish fluid volumes were more realistic. Although I guess hyper and cumflation are fetishes... but still whoever thougt my character can swallow 27L of cum and go adventuring should drink 2L of cum and see if its "too little" ...
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