Your gripes with CoC II

[Bast]

Kohaku and Atugia? I thought they were virgins before you.

Some players think that Kohaku just might have been pretending to be a virgin. For example, if you have sex with the merchant in Khor'minos, that looks a lot like Kohaku, then you can still get Kohaku's "first time" scene in the fox den.
So the cat merchant might either be a different person and actually just look like Kohaku or Kohaku was just bending the truth a little bit when talking about her virginity.

And it's definitely not an oversight.

 

[WolframL]

Ahhhh but you see, just as Ambra insists that she isn't Kohaku (nya-jya!), Kohaku would insist that she isn't Ambra if you could ask her about it. So since they're totally separate people, Kohaku is still a virgin no matter what you may do with Ambra first. There's no possible way she could be abusing exact words here...

 

[VVV]

Some players think that Kohaku just might have been pretending to be a virgin. For example, if you have sex with the merchant in Khor'minos, that looks a lot like Kohaku, then you can still get Kohaku's "first time" scene in the fox den.
So the cat merchant might either be a different person and actually just look like Kohaku or Kohaku was just bending the truth a little bit when talking about her virginity.

And it's definitely not an oversight.

Unfortunate but at least it can also be a bit silly with how Wolfram said it. Now I wonder whether "Ambra" meant she really had sex at Khor'Minos and wasn't just saying what people were generally like or if we even fuck "Ambra" at all since when you go to grab her tail you touch fur before you should. She's notoriously easy to please after all. Still kinda sucks to be lied to like that. For example, Kiyoko wasn't a virgin but that's fine since wasn't pretending to be.

 

[Aurore]

I swear to god I got drained after having sex with Ambra, either that was a bug or cats feed on Chi too.

 

[wery12345]

Reminder that combat rework is in the work/going to be in the works. Not saying to not say it, just feel like people should know.

 

[VVV]

Reminder that combat rework is in the work/going to be in the works. Not saying to not say it, just feel like people should know.

Oh? I hope it makes more things viable and powerful. I really love my spellblade stuff and would love more ways to keep it consistent and strong.

 

[k dash]

Though I do like Brint and Quin since they are one of rare sire that isn't a pump and dump kind and I do enjoy pc preg scenes.....I don't mind them fucking everybody since my PC fuck a lot of ppl too. But I feel like the pc feels less special when they can knock up everyone. Like pc is just one of many womb for them to conquer. I know that's kind of their character and they have impregnation fetish.....but it does feel like the pc takes a L for having a vagina.

In a sense, this game's "focus" is inherently incomplete. It should consist of two thing: I will focus only you and I want you to focus on me. There just meed only one of these two conditions will make NPCs appear more focus on champion. But because of the game itself, it's impossible for NPCs to show them want to control the player. And the mate like Brint cannot satisfy the first condition. So they look like don't really care about you.
Seriously, if dom mate with open relationships show some desire for control it shows that they care more about champion. But sadly, if that happened, probably the central appeal of the player community is to remove them.

 

[luciel1331]

In a sense, this game's "focus" is inherently incomplete. It should consist of two thing: I will focus only you and I want you to focus on me. There just meed only one of these two conditions will make NPCs appear more focus on champion. But because of the game itself, it's impossible for NPCs to show them want to control the player. And the mate like Brint cannot satisfy the first condition. So they look like don't really care about you.
Seriously, if dom mate with open relationships show some desire for control it shows that they care more about champion. But sadly, if that happened, probably the central appeal of the player community is to remove them.

Yeah that makes sense most ppl in this game seems polyamorous so probably impossible to have game focus entirely on pc. That's fine.

.......but like wasn't this game basically power fantasy story considering how op the pc is? Beating fucking ancient and powerful beings like komari and saving the city with like 4ppl. Feels like the so called vaunted champions takes a lot of Ls when you have vagina.....

As for Brint and Quin their core thing is to fuck everyone so if they remove that aspect about them it'll no longer be them. So I'll have to live with it....though reading brinthouse talk Brint has bastard children already and probably Quin and Arona too considering they both fuck a lot and they don't take blank powder. Kind of inevitable bc of who they are. I don't mind that thouhg because I don't hear about them. But if it's like npcs that I will see often (major and minor) I don't want to see them get impregated by my lovers. It just seems to rub on the fact that again pc is just another womb to conquer.

I mean didn't ppl get ballistic when it was possible for Rindo to get impregnated by Hitoshi or Nakano? Like if popular npcs like Brienne, Kiyoko, Arona and Cait can get impregnated by ppl other than pc ppl will go fucking crazy (I know the 1st two characters that will never happen bc they're champsexual and cait has a brand). Kind of wonder what kind of reaction ppl will get when non-vagina wielding pcs have elthara become surrogate for ryn.....also kind of weird the wiki doesn't seem to mention Mara's stud eubicha service? Does Eubicha not get impregnated by Mara? Isn't stud service's whole purpose is to impregnate though?

Anyway, idk I just want more things that shows pc IS special to them instead being one of many side bitches. Bc that's how it feels so far. Guess this game just made me realize yeah polyamorous relationships doesn't seem realistic for me at least. It's fun to explore in game though.

Sorry for long rant and complaining. Ah but small win for me bc Alyphia's writing is so good her writing is a fucking blessing for players with vagina wielding champ and her writing with Ryn so far is a freaking treasure trove. Just started Serena's content and mmf it's mwah chef's kiss

 

[Kingu2]

I mean didn't ppl get ballistic when it was possible for Rindo to get impregnated by Hitoshi or Nakano? Like if popular npcs like Brienne, Kiyoko, Arona and Cait can get impregnated by ppl other than pc ppl will go fucking crazy (I know the 1st two characters that will never happen bc they're champsexual and cait has a brand). Kind of wonder what kind of reaction ppl will get when non-vagina wielding pcs have elthara become surrogate for ryn.....also kind of weird the wiki doesn't seem to mention Mara's stud eubicha service? Does Eubicha not get impregnated by Mara? Isn't stud service's whole purpose is to impregnate though?

So there's a couple things here. First off people were upset about Rindo being married off to Nakano or Hitoshi. Those complaints swiftly died however once it became possible to make her a concubine for the PC. It's not so much that she was marrying the other guy's but moreso that the player couldn't do anything about it that upset people, personally Idgaf. Second, like with Rindo as long as the player has a say in the matter I don't see anyone losing their shit over npcs getting knocked up by others. I mean it can already happen with Elthara and Salwah but because it's the players choice for whether or not it happens no one has any reason to really complain, I mean if you don't want to see it happen then don't press the button what makes it happen. Likewise in the case of Ryn as long as It's the players choice nobody will really care that much. At most all we get is an influx of newcomers asking "but why can't Ryn just grow a Vagoo?" and they'll get the same answer they always do.

Finally, who the hell is Mara? Never mind just looked her up on the wiki having completely forgotten about her and found that it does in fact mention her studding for Eubicha.

 

[WolframL]

Finally, who the hell is Mara?

One of the members of the centaur caravan you meet in the KM Outskirts.

 

[zagzig]

The Stud Eubicha scene is mentioned on the Centaur Caravan page, and that scene does not trigger pregnancy. While the scene involves studding roleplay, the centaurs are all on their birth control.

Also, regarding penised companions and children. Brint's brief mention in BriHaus can easily be read as joking, and no mention of children is made otherwise. If Arona impregnates you, she gets teary-eyed about being a mother for the first time. And Quin is generally reserved sexually after his experiences being led around by the dick by the cult and in his backstory, and has to be prodded into scenes where he can be brought in to father children with NPCs (Salwah, Elthara). There really is nothing in the game to suggest that Brint, Arona, and Quintillus are knocking up women left and right, and should you pursue a pregnancy with any of them they all treat you as a special person they have romantic interest in and look forward to being a parent with you.

 

[Animalistic]

The Stud Eubicha scene is mentioned on the Centaur Caravan page, and that scene does not trigger pregnancy. While the scene involves studding roleplay, the centaurs are all on their birth control.

Also, regarding penised companions and children. Brint's brief mention in BriHaus can easily be read as joking, and no mention of children is made otherwise. If Arona impregnates you, she gets teary-eyed about being a mother for the first time. And Quin is generally reserved sexually after his experiences being led around by the dick by the cult and in his backstory, and has to be prodded into scenes where he can be brought in to father children with NPCs (Salwah, Elthara). There really is nothing in the game to suggest that Brint, Arona, and Quintillus are knocking up women left and right, and should you pursue a pregnancy with any of them they all treat you as a special person they have romantic interest in and look forward to being a parent with you.

Hmmmm, I see your points to some extent. Still, I got some questions.
I do not get where you get that Quin is less sexually charged? From what I remember, the only time that comes into play is when you try to fuck him before recruiting him. Since he does not want rumours to spread that he is going back to his old ways? After you recruit him tho, he seems to go back to his old ways of having and thinking of sex 24/7. Not helped by how most of his companion talks are sexually charged in nature. So, is this something that I missed or should it come more across in his future update? Speaking of future, is that thing about Quin having kids with one of the snow cat twins still planned. And if it is, would it requires player input?

For Brints case, I am not sure. He, like the other that you mentioned, do not use contraceptives. And going by what we know of minos, would it be so far stretched to consider his comment at face value? I mean, joking about having bastards is a pretty far reach.

Arona is same case as Brint, without the comment of having many half-breeds. Well, there is that comment of Hretha when you talk about removing her pussy sterility and she comments about that she doesn't care about how many bastards Arona has, but that carrying the child of your own is another thing entirely. Now, Arona never mentions having children herself. But considering of what we know of Orcs and of Arona, I do not know if I can buy what you are selling.

That last sentiment comes across in all three of your posts. But I do hope that your is more of a truth.

 

[luciel1331]

So there's a couple things here. First off people were upset about Rindo being married off to Nakano or Hitoshi. Those complaints swiftly died however once it became possible to make her a concubine for the PC. It's not so much that she was marrying the other guy's but moreso that the player couldn't do anything about it that upset people, personally Idgaf. Second, like with Rindo as long as the player has a say in the matter I don't see anyone losing their shit over npcs getting knocked up by others. I mean it can already happen with Elthara and Salwah but because it's the players choice for whether or not it happens no one has any reason to really complain, I mean if you don't want to see it happen then don't press the button what makes it happen. Likewise in the case of Ryn as long as It's the players choice nobody will really care that much. At most all we get is an influx of newcomers asking "but why can't Ryn just grow a Vagoo?" and they'll get the same answer they always do.

Finally, who the hell is Mara? Never mind just looked her up on the wiki having completely forgotten about her and found that it does in fact mention her studding for Eubicha.

I only started to going to this forum a lot more just recently so didn't know what the reaction is afterwards. I was initially worried pc couldn't take Rindo as concubine without a dick. But glad you can bc Rindo's sweet. Yeah glad that it's not forced.

But for Ryn's case will the player actually have a choice beside growing a vagina and have Ryn's child? She needs a heir somehow rt since

Spoiler: wintercity spoiler?

Alissa turned demon

she's the last one left. I mean I heard some ppl say they'll grown one just to give Ryn child and get rid of it afterwards. Idk. ¯\(ツ)/¯

 

[luciel1331]

The Stud Eubicha scene is mentioned on the Centaur Caravan page, and that scene does not trigger pregnancy. While the scene involves studding roleplay, the centaurs are all on their birth control.

Also, regarding penised companions and children. Brint's brief mention in BriHaus can easily be read as joking, and no mention of children is made otherwise. If Arona impregnates you, she gets teary-eyed about being a mother for the first time. And Quin is generally reserved sexually after his experiences being led around by the dick by the cult and in his backstory, and has to be prodded into scenes where he can be brought in to father children with NPCs (Salwah, Elthara). There really is nothing in the game to suggest that Brint, Arona, and Quintillus are knocking up women left and right, and should you pursue a pregnancy with any of them they all treat you as a special person they have romantic interest in and look forward to being a parent with you.

Their scenes when pc is pregnant is cute which is why I like them. But idk isn't their major thing is impreg fetish though? And as Animalistic mentioned considering how minotaurs and orcs reputations are seems like it's the case they have bastards.

Anyhow....how do I mutliquote things? I don't want to add gazaillion notifications.

 

[Savin]

I don't want to see them get impregated by my lovers.

That's fine, but some people do. It's pretty much universally optional content, so don't press the button that makes it happen if you don't want it to happen

I mean didn't ppl get ballistic when it was possible for Rindo to get impregnated by Hitoshi or Nakano?

No, not really. The reaction to Rindo and El was quite muted once those pieces of content got in; I don't think I've actually seen anyone complain about Rindo at all. You're welcome cuz I really went to bat for making Rindo Concubine as accessible as possible.

but like wasn't this game basically power fantasy story

Also: no.

But for Ryn's case will the player actually have a choice beside growing a vagina and have Ryn's child?

Yes. Whether that'll actually be a scene in-game or something that happens in the epilogue I'm kinda fuzzy about, but it's highly unlikely that you'll accidentally get an ending where the Ridell line ends with her just because you aren't a breeder.

 

[Animalistic]

Their scenes when pc is pregnant is cute which is why I like them. But idk isn't their major thing is impreg fetish though? And as Animalistic mentioned considering how minotaurs and orcs reputations are seems like it's the case they have bastards.

Anyhow....how do I mutliquote things? I don't want to add gazaillion notifications.

There are couple of ways of replying to multiply people.
You can just reply to on multiply comments in one reply.
You can quote comment, found right next to reply and click "insert your quote" right next to "attach file" when first replying.

 

[Alypia]

Sorry for long rant and complaining. Ah but small win for me bc Alyphia's writing is so good her writing is a fucking blessing for players with vagina wielding champ and her writing with Ryn so far is a freaking treasure trove. Just started Serena's content and mmf it's mwah chef's kiss

That's gracious of you to say! Thank youuuu

 

[TravissPastrami]

Minor gripe here, but I figured I would bring it up while the thread is on the topic of pregnancy. Seems maybe a little dumb to me that of all the Orcs in the Kervus camp that can be impregnated, Ragnild is the only one that sends the kids back to the islands. At least of the major 4. Arona, Hretha, and Infrith all send their children to the Nursery, but Rag's scene mentions it "being the Kervus way" to send the children back to the Islands as if everyone does it. Again, just a small complaint that doesn't affect much.

 

[Squid]

Yes. Whether that'll actually be a scene in-game or something that happens in the epilogue I'm kinda fuzzy about, but it's highly unlikely that you'll accidentally get an ending where the Ridell line ends with her just because you aren't a breeder.

Well thats something.

I'll admit I was very frustrated I play a male character and liked that Ryn was a small genitaled submissive (as far as Im aware not many characters like that in the game, even nicol has a giant dick). So the like final real capstone of the content appearing to be Ryn's getting a large dick (based on what I saw from the comissioned art dont know if that deviates) and then either impregnating femplayers or Elethara felt like...I dont want to say a bait and switch but a disappointing end.

If there is any like, child interaction planned, Id take a Lumia handwave or whatever. If not then a vague allusion to having kids in the epilogue without a real explanation would work to.

 

[zagzig]

Well thats something.

I'll admit I was very frustrated I play a male character and liked that Ryn was a small genitaled submissive (as far as Im aware not many characters like that in the game, even nicol has a giant dick). So the like final real capstone of the content appearing to be Ryn's getting a large dick (based on what I saw from the comissioned art dont know if that deviates) and then either impregnating femplayers or Elethara felt like...I dont want to say a bait and switch but a disappointing end.

If there is any like, child interaction planned, Id take a Lumia handwave or whatever. If not then a vague allusion to having kids in the epilogue without a real explanation would work to.

I'm not Savin, but I think Savin was referring to the possibility that Elthara could be the one to bear Etheryn's heir in that post? I don't think anything was suggesting that Etheryn would bear the champion's children instead.

 

[WolframL]

Wild idea, but I can see Lumia gifting a same sex couple a child like how the Harvest God from Harvest Moon could.

Yeah, about that... have you seen Convocation of Mirrors. Because if so this post is highly relevant.

 

[Gardeford]

Yeah, about that... have you seen Convocation of Mirrors. Because if so this post is highly relevant.

that has nothing to do with what hes asking about

Wild idea, but I can see Lumia gifting a same sex couple a child like how the Harvest God from Harvest Moon could. Wouldn't be too far out for a Goddess of fertility to pull a stunt like that off.

she would totally do this.

 

[Animalistic]

she would totally do this.

Oh that is so nice of her! Whats the catch?

 

[Wint3rRyd3r]

Oh that is so nice of her! Whats the catch?

She just really wants to cosplay a stork that day.

And add someone to the lumian census.

 

[wery12345]

Your immortal soul as a dad packing fluff said obviously.

 

[VVV]

she would totally do this.

Glad to see there's at least ideas being thrown around!

 

[iamthetransient]

Honestly, at this point, it's the lack of progressive narrative content... Or at least anything that's even adjacent to it.
The last significant beat was the Winter City, which is two months away from being two years ago.
The amount of filler, fluff, and generally 'writer specific' smut seems to be building like a snowball rolling down a hill, but getting any closer to any key choices seems to have fallen to the wayside.

 

[WolframL]

Have you, like, not been playing a new version of the game since before last June? Because we've been getting steady content related to the next MSQ segment since then, with Khor'minos being in the game for the past five months or so and all of this includes two major quests getting started. The Siege of Khor'minos is the next major chunk of MSQ and Demon of Ice is a continuation of the unresolved Winter City plot threads.

For purposes of comparison, it took about eight months to go from the introduction of the Frostwood zone to the ability to enter the Winter City and the only reason that same expansion also included the culmination of Act 1 is that WC was never intended to be a hub area but just the setting for one dungeon that could later be expanded upon as needed. KM by contrast is a massive city zone unto itself and not just 'the next place where Plot Happens'.

Oh, and this shouldn't be news to anybody because Savin said (exactly a year ago) that Khor'minos was going to be a very long process that wouldn't be complete until later this year. We're also apparently a bit ahead of schedule.

 

[MarcoPolo121]

Honestly, I'm not particularly intersted in the main story or most of the lore, though I'm happy for those who like it when they get it. I'm just here for the characters & relationship building. And the adorable pregnancy content. So if it takes them literally another ten years to finish the story, I'm not pushed, as long as the characters are good.

I mean the smut is a plus too, but I figured it was a given I'm here for that as well.

 

[Savin]

The last significant beat was the Winter City,

The last major beat was in August of last year. The next beat finished writing out earlier this month.

Edit: Well, LAST month. January. Y'know.