Your gripes with CoC II

[Animalistic]

Which is fine, just not something I am a fan off. I play these games for the power fantasy aspect and do not equal pc wants in same breath as NPC wants. And when most of the girls in these games only want your kids and can only have your kids, I would prefer if most of the guys/girls with dicks worked on somewhat same principle. The game should be about pleasing the player above everything most of the time.

Basically, give me a male harem God dammit!

 

[Gennevie]

The game should be about pleasing the player above everything most of the time.

Agreed, but the difficulty is that that means something different for everyone. For example I would be disappointed if you were the only person in the world who could cause pregnancies. That very libidinous PC I mentioned earlier doesn't have a dick, so sending in Brint or Arona to bang/knock up other NPCs is excellent!

 

[Animalistic]

Personally, I am not into watching others banging and especially if it ends up in pregnancy. And on even more personal note, having our companions being able to knock up every girl they see and do willingly makes my cboy/female champion feel less, if not loved, special if nothing else. Especially in Aronas case where she can knock up whoever but she can only bear a child by championa hand. Just cheapens the bond between my female avatar and Arona.

I would rather if they expanded upon PC related pregnancy, especially vagina related ones since last year it felt like NPCs had more love showered upon their pregnant bellies by other NPCs than the champion with stuff like Rindo,Elthara and the brown Cait.

But, as said, that is me problem. I know not everyone shares my desires for more champion centric content, especially on bottoming side.

 

[HK-47]

Admittedly I don't know if that changes as you get to know him more since I just didn't continue with it, but degradation stuff is cool as long as everyone involved knows it's just for fun. His feels real.

Also when you talk to Rune and she says "Oh he's so sweet and kind and romantic!" it's like "Asshole, where the fuck is that attitude when you're coming on to me!?"

Yeah, I got the same impression. The way those lines aren't softened with any caveats in that scene or any others that feature him definitely gives them a rather nasty impression that I don't care for at all.

As for the Rune line, I definitely wondered the same thing, because outside of some of the sleep dialogues, he comes across as a CoC equivalent of a douchey closeted frat bro, and I am too damn old to deal with that nonsense IRL, much less in a porn game.

 

[HK-47]

Monogamy seems impractical in Savarra.

Hooo boy, it definitely isn't just Savarra that it's impractical in, IMO.

Basically, give me a male harem God dammit!

I mean, to each their own, but IMO harems of any sort are pretty cringe. A poly arrangement is one thing, but harems always have that inherent element of creepy subservience and loss of agency, which I don't care for.

 

[Alypia]

Ehhh considering how many different parents my kids have in most runs, I can hardly judge anyone!
Monogamy seems impractical in Savarra.

Some players make it work.

 

[Animalistic]

I mean, to each their own, but IMO harems of any sort are pretty cringe.

Heh, they kind of are but I meant it more in a way where we have more player centric male NPCs in same way we have with our mix of female NPCs.

You have your free spirited sourts that player can be in open relationship (Cait, Lusamine, Miko, Mai, Elthara), the player centric ones (Brienne, Kiyoko, the MILF Cougar) and the rest in the middle (the ones that fuck around but much less so such as Kurako, Kohaku, Agni, Atugia, Ryn, Hretha). And finally, all of the sex workers and people that are just not interested in you romantically/sexually.
Player here gets to choose which type of NPCs they want to interact with and be serious with/marry.


I am personally fan of Brienne and Agni camps when it comes to PC orientated relationships. But at same time, I can tangle with the rest for the spice of it (even though the only sex worker I actually really enjoyed was, ironically, Nikol).

So harem in this context is marrying/concubining many different girls/guys that (mostly) prefer you above all else.

Basically what I am getting at, I wish we had more of that balance when it comes to male NPCs. It feels most fall into the sex worker/hos camp (Brint, Quinn, Sugo, Boomer, Takahiro), have no Interest in me, romantic or sexual (rest of the male Kitsune den, every fucking DILF, River, Jun Jun, Elf Boy, Vaush) and one or two middle (Berwyn, June, Elyon?) and more devoted ones (Liulfr, Lyric). I just wish male NPCs were more balanced.

Although, I wouldn't say no to a male harem in same vain as Cat harem.

 

[luciel1331]

Personally, I am not into watching others banging and especially if it ends up in pregnancy. And on even more personal note, having our companions being able to knock up every girl they see and do willingly makes my cboy/female champion feel less, if not loved, special if nothing else. Especially in Aronas case where she can knock up whoever but she can only bear a child by championa hand. Just cheapens the bond between my female avatar and Arona.

I would rather if they expanded upon PC related pregnancy, especially vagina related ones since last year it felt like NPCs had more love showered upon their pregnant bellies by other NPCs than the champion with stuff like Rindo,Elthara and the brown Cait.

But, as said, that is me problem. I know not everyone shares my desires for more champion centric content, especially on bottoming side.

Yeah I agree. Though I do like Brint and Quin since they are one of rare sire that isn't a pump and dump kind and I do enjoy pc preg scenes.....I don't mind them fucking everybody since my PC fuck a lot of ppl too. But I feel like the pc feels less special when they can knock up everyone. Like pc is just one of many womb for them to conquer. I know that's kind of their character and they have impregnation fetish.....but it does feel like the pc takes a L for having a vagina. Also considering there is barely power bottoming with vagina having pc. Like you are immediately sub if you have a vagina and the only way you can be dom with vagina is when it's btwn characters with vagina. Well at least it's a choice not something that's forced so that's a bright side.

 

[HK-47]

Yeah I agree. Though I do like Brint and Quin since they are one of rare sire that isn't a pump and dump kind and I do enjoy pc preg scenes.....

Berwyn does talk about about finding a place to settle down & raise the kids after Kasyrra is defeated, if you do his breeding route, so there's that.

 

[Animalistic]

Doesn't Quinn have, like, that one scene about your pregnancy when you give birth and nothing more? Same amount as effort as Eltharas/Quinn's pregnancy If I remember right. I feel that makes him one step removed from pump and dump variety.

 

[luciel1331]

Berwyn does talk about about finding a place to settle down & raise the kids after Kasyrra is defeated, if you do his breeding route, so there's that.

Ah shoot forgot about Berwyn. His content hasn't been updated in so long I forgot. Looking forward to B's expansion of him.Yeah that's why berwyn is one of faves along with Lyric and Nyze. They're pretty sweet to you when you're pregnant with their child.

Doesn't Quinn have, like, that one scene about your pregnancy when you give birth and nothing more? Same amount as effort as Eltharas/Quinn's pregnancy scene If I remember right. I feel that makes him one step removed from pump and dump variety.

Yeah that's true. I did get pretty disappointed that there wasn't anything during his pregnancy or he doesn't acknowledge it until you give birth. I just kind of assume it's bc he's severely lacking in content and hoping for more whenever he gets an expansion. Low bar but at least he mentions he can train pc and his kids so they don't end up like him or something. Didn't check quin and elthara's pregnancy. I don't mind watching the companions fuck other npcs if I'm involved in the process like a threesome. But not into them knocking up npcs. Maybe I should do it once and erase the save just to see how it goes.

 

[wery12345]

Kohaku

Judging by the fact the champ is the one who claims her V card she probably doesnt do much sleeping around for benifactors. And the dact of it not proccing the same for the local fat assed cat is probably to save some awful fucking trouble on the parser end.

 

[WolframL]

And the dact of it not proccing the same for the local fat assed cat is probably to save some awful fucking trouble on the parser end.

What are you talking about, those two are obviously different people...

 

[Animalistic]

Moving from the meme aspect of conversation, it always read to me that Ambra had sex with people (if I remember right) and that Kohaku always played up her innocent act to get the champion to like her more. Which is fitting for her character.
Personally, do not care that she was not a virgin, never really was something I looked in the character. Kohaku/Ambra is fun either way and I would like more of her all the same.

 

[wery12345]

Fair enough, but there is the fact that it is possible to get benefactors without getting takin to pound town, and her ears are very sensitive.

I would like more of her all the same.

Same here, be it concubinage or just more interactions with the cute smol fox with a fat fucking ass.

 

[VVV]

(the ones that fuck around but much less so such as Kurako, Kohaku, Agni, Atugia, Ryn, Hretha).

Kohaku and Atugia? I thought they were virgins before you.

 

[Bast]

Kohaku and Atugia? I thought they were virgins before you.

Some players think that Kohaku just might have been pretending to be a virgin. For example, if you have sex with the merchant in Khor'minos, that looks a lot like Kohaku, then you can still get Kohaku's "first time" scene in the fox den.
So the cat merchant might either be a different person and actually just look like Kohaku or Kohaku was just bending the truth a little bit when talking about her virginity.

And it's definitely not an oversight.

 

[WolframL]

Ahhhh but you see, just as Ambra insists that she isn't Kohaku (nya-jya!), Kohaku would insist that she isn't Ambra if you could ask her about it. So since they're totally separate people, Kohaku is still a virgin no matter what you may do with Ambra first. There's no possible way she could be abusing exact words here...

 

[VVV]

Some players think that Kohaku just might have been pretending to be a virgin. For example, if you have sex with the merchant in Khor'minos, that looks a lot like Kohaku, then you can still get Kohaku's "first time" scene in the fox den.
So the cat merchant might either be a different person and actually just look like Kohaku or Kohaku was just bending the truth a little bit when talking about her virginity.

And it's definitely not an oversight.

Unfortunate but at least it can also be a bit silly with how Wolfram said it. Now I wonder whether "Ambra" meant she really had sex at Khor'Minos and wasn't just saying what people were generally like or if we even fuck "Ambra" at all since when you go to grab her tail you touch fur before you should. She's notoriously easy to please after all. Still kinda sucks to be lied to like that. For example, Kiyoko wasn't a virgin but that's fine since wasn't pretending to be.

 

[Aurore]

I swear to god I got drained after having sex with Ambra, either that was a bug or cats feed on Chi too.

 

[wery12345]

Reminder that combat rework is in the work/going to be in the works. Not saying to not say it, just feel like people should know.

 

[VVV]

Reminder that combat rework is in the work/going to be in the works. Not saying to not say it, just feel like people should know.

Oh? I hope it makes more things viable and powerful. I really love my spellblade stuff and would love more ways to keep it consistent and strong.

 

[k dash]

Though I do like Brint and Quin since they are one of rare sire that isn't a pump and dump kind and I do enjoy pc preg scenes.....I don't mind them fucking everybody since my PC fuck a lot of ppl too. But I feel like the pc feels less special when they can knock up everyone. Like pc is just one of many womb for them to conquer. I know that's kind of their character and they have impregnation fetish.....but it does feel like the pc takes a L for having a vagina.

In a sense, this game's "focus" is inherently incomplete. It should consist of two thing: I will focus only you and I want you to focus on me. There just meed only one of these two conditions will make NPCs appear more focus on champion. But because of the game itself, it's impossible for NPCs to show them want to control the player. And the mate like Brint cannot satisfy the first condition. So they look like don't really care about you.
Seriously, if dom mate with open relationships show some desire for control it shows that they care more about champion. But sadly, if that happened, probably the central appeal of the player community is to remove them.

 

[luciel1331]

In a sense, this game's "focus" is inherently incomplete. It should consist of two thing: I will focus only you and I want you to focus on me. There just meed only one of these two conditions will make NPCs appear more focus on champion. But because of the game itself, it's impossible for NPCs to show them want to control the player. And the mate like Brint cannot satisfy the first condition. So they look like don't really care about you.
Seriously, if dom mate with open relationships show some desire for control it shows that they care more about champion. But sadly, if that happened, probably the central appeal of the player community is to remove them.

Yeah that makes sense most ppl in this game seems polyamorous so probably impossible to have game focus entirely on pc. That's fine.

.......but like wasn't this game basically power fantasy story considering how op the pc is? Beating fucking ancient and powerful beings like komari and saving the city with like 4ppl. Feels like the so called vaunted champions takes a lot of Ls when you have vagina.....

As for Brint and Quin their core thing is to fuck everyone so if they remove that aspect about them it'll no longer be them. So I'll have to live with it....though reading brinthouse talk Brint has bastard children already and probably Quin and Arona too considering they both fuck a lot and they don't take blank powder. Kind of inevitable bc of who they are. I don't mind that thouhg because I don't hear about them. But if it's like npcs that I will see often (major and minor) I don't want to see them get impregated by my lovers. It just seems to rub on the fact that again pc is just another womb to conquer.

I mean didn't ppl get ballistic when it was possible for Rindo to get impregnated by Hitoshi or Nakano? Like if popular npcs like Brienne, Kiyoko, Arona and Cait can get impregnated by ppl other than pc ppl will go fucking crazy (I know the 1st two characters that will never happen bc they're champsexual and cait has a brand). Kind of wonder what kind of reaction ppl will get when non-vagina wielding pcs have elthara become surrogate for ryn.....also kind of weird the wiki doesn't seem to mention Mara's stud eubicha service? Does Eubicha not get impregnated by Mara? Isn't stud service's whole purpose is to impregnate though?

Anyway, idk I just want more things that shows pc IS special to them instead being one of many side bitches. Bc that's how it feels so far. Guess this game just made me realize yeah polyamorous relationships doesn't seem realistic for me at least. It's fun to explore in game though.

Sorry for long rant and complaining. Ah but small win for me bc Alyphia's writing is so good her writing is a fucking blessing for players with vagina wielding champ and her writing with Ryn so far is a freaking treasure trove. Just started Serena's content and mmf it's mwah chef's kiss

 

[Kingu2]

I mean didn't ppl get ballistic when it was possible for Rindo to get impregnated by Hitoshi or Nakano? Like if popular npcs like Brienne, Kiyoko, Arona and Cait can get impregnated by ppl other than pc ppl will go fucking crazy (I know the 1st two characters that will never happen bc they're champsexual and cait has a brand). Kind of wonder what kind of reaction ppl will get when non-vagina wielding pcs have elthara become surrogate for ryn.....also kind of weird the wiki doesn't seem to mention Mara's stud eubicha service? Does Eubicha not get impregnated by Mara? Isn't stud service's whole purpose is to impregnate though?

So there's a couple things here. First off people were upset about Rindo being married off to Nakano or Hitoshi. Those complaints swiftly died however once it became possible to make her a concubine for the PC. It's not so much that she was marrying the other guy's but moreso that the player couldn't do anything about it that upset people, personally Idgaf. Second, like with Rindo as long as the player has a say in the matter I don't see anyone losing their shit over npcs getting knocked up by others. I mean it can already happen with Elthara and Salwah but because it's the players choice for whether or not it happens no one has any reason to really complain, I mean if you don't want to see it happen then don't press the button what makes it happen. Likewise in the case of Ryn as long as It's the players choice nobody will really care that much. At most all we get is an influx of newcomers asking "but why can't Ryn just grow a Vagoo?" and they'll get the same answer they always do.

Finally, who the hell is Mara? Never mind just looked her up on the wiki having completely forgotten about her and found that it does in fact mention her studding for Eubicha.

 

[WolframL]

Finally, who the hell is Mara?

One of the members of the centaur caravan you meet in the KM Outskirts.

 

[zagzig]

The Stud Eubicha scene is mentioned on the Centaur Caravan page, and that scene does not trigger pregnancy. While the scene involves studding roleplay, the centaurs are all on their birth control.

Also, regarding penised companions and children. Brint's brief mention in BriHaus can easily be read as joking, and no mention of children is made otherwise. If Arona impregnates you, she gets teary-eyed about being a mother for the first time. And Quin is generally reserved sexually after his experiences being led around by the dick by the cult and in his backstory, and has to be prodded into scenes where he can be brought in to father children with NPCs (Salwah, Elthara). There really is nothing in the game to suggest that Brint, Arona, and Quintillus are knocking up women left and right, and should you pursue a pregnancy with any of them they all treat you as a special person they have romantic interest in and look forward to being a parent with you.

 

[Animalistic]

The Stud Eubicha scene is mentioned on the Centaur Caravan page, and that scene does not trigger pregnancy. While the scene involves studding roleplay, the centaurs are all on their birth control.

Also, regarding penised companions and children. Brint's brief mention in BriHaus can easily be read as joking, and no mention of children is made otherwise. If Arona impregnates you, she gets teary-eyed about being a mother for the first time. And Quin is generally reserved sexually after his experiences being led around by the dick by the cult and in his backstory, and has to be prodded into scenes where he can be brought in to father children with NPCs (Salwah, Elthara). There really is nothing in the game to suggest that Brint, Arona, and Quintillus are knocking up women left and right, and should you pursue a pregnancy with any of them they all treat you as a special person they have romantic interest in and look forward to being a parent with you.

Hmmmm, I see your points to some extent. Still, I got some questions.
I do not get where you get that Quin is less sexually charged? From what I remember, the only time that comes into play is when you try to fuck him before recruiting him. Since he does not want rumours to spread that he is going back to his old ways? After you recruit him tho, he seems to go back to his old ways of having and thinking of sex 24/7. Not helped by how most of his companion talks are sexually charged in nature. So, is this something that I missed or should it come more across in his future update? Speaking of future, is that thing about Quin having kids with one of the snow cat twins still planned. And if it is, would it requires player input?

For Brints case, I am not sure. He, like the other that you mentioned, do not use contraceptives. And going by what we know of minos, would it be so far stretched to consider his comment at face value? I mean, joking about having bastards is a pretty far reach.

Arona is same case as Brint, without the comment of having many half-breeds. Well, there is that comment of Hretha when you talk about removing her pussy sterility and she comments about that she doesn't care about how many bastards Arona has, but that carrying the child of your own is another thing entirely. Now, Arona never mentions having children herself. But considering of what we know of Orcs and of Arona, I do not know if I can buy what you are selling.

That last sentiment comes across in all three of your posts. But I do hope that your is more of a truth.

 

[luciel1331]

So there's a couple things here. First off people were upset about Rindo being married off to Nakano or Hitoshi. Those complaints swiftly died however once it became possible to make her a concubine for the PC. It's not so much that she was marrying the other guy's but moreso that the player couldn't do anything about it that upset people, personally Idgaf. Second, like with Rindo as long as the player has a say in the matter I don't see anyone losing their shit over npcs getting knocked up by others. I mean it can already happen with Elthara and Salwah but because it's the players choice for whether or not it happens no one has any reason to really complain, I mean if you don't want to see it happen then don't press the button what makes it happen. Likewise in the case of Ryn as long as It's the players choice nobody will really care that much. At most all we get is an influx of newcomers asking "but why can't Ryn just grow a Vagoo?" and they'll get the same answer they always do.

Finally, who the hell is Mara? Never mind just looked her up on the wiki having completely forgotten about her and found that it does in fact mention her studding for Eubicha.

I only started to going to this forum a lot more just recently so didn't know what the reaction is afterwards. I was initially worried pc couldn't take Rindo as concubine without a dick. But glad you can bc Rindo's sweet. Yeah glad that it's not forced.

But for Ryn's case will the player actually have a choice beside growing a vagina and have Ryn's child? She needs a heir somehow rt since

Spoiler: wintercity spoiler?

Alissa turned demon

she's the last one left. I mean I heard some ppl say they'll grown one just to give Ryn child and get rid of it afterwards. Idk. ¯\(ツ)/¯

 

[luciel1331]

The Stud Eubicha scene is mentioned on the Centaur Caravan page, and that scene does not trigger pregnancy. While the scene involves studding roleplay, the centaurs are all on their birth control.

Also, regarding penised companions and children. Brint's brief mention in BriHaus can easily be read as joking, and no mention of children is made otherwise. If Arona impregnates you, she gets teary-eyed about being a mother for the first time. And Quin is generally reserved sexually after his experiences being led around by the dick by the cult and in his backstory, and has to be prodded into scenes where he can be brought in to father children with NPCs (Salwah, Elthara). There really is nothing in the game to suggest that Brint, Arona, and Quintillus are knocking up women left and right, and should you pursue a pregnancy with any of them they all treat you as a special person they have romantic interest in and look forward to being a parent with you.

Their scenes when pc is pregnant is cute which is why I like them. But idk isn't their major thing is impreg fetish though? And as Animalistic mentioned considering how minotaurs and orcs reputations are seems like it's the case they have bastards.

Anyhow....how do I mutliquote things? I don't want to add gazaillion notifications.