Your gripes with CoC II

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Paradox01

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How are you able to pull up relevant links from various different times?
A memory like a steel(e) trap + the forum Search engine.

EDIT: Ninja'd.
 
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Back when we made that choice, the secret "ending" of FarCry was still culturally relevant :p
I call hacks. Where is the Champ's joy flight with the Big Bad, raining hot lead cum on the heads of mere mortals?

I think you're underestimating how much that framing story impacts the player's impression has of their avatar, even if people skip it after a first run. After character creation, TiTS really sells the Daddy Issues the MC as part of character motivation going forward.
And that's why for me Anno is forever bottom tier (sorry, Savin) and why Ramis is best wife: she helps my Steele to charter a life's course together waaay the fuck away from daddy dearest and his (and megacorp in general) BS for after we get that check. Being a big cat lady full of love and badassery also helps, which is why Shade was Ramis's only real competition before getting a sidegrade into being my character's best relative.

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Back to general griping: based on running several different characters through all of the content in the three starter zones (Old Forest, Foothills, and Harvest Valey) the Resolve combat seems entirely suboptimal as an option for any party that doesn't have two out of three characters specializing on it. So if I have vanilla Cait and Quin in my party and my Champ is 50/50 on dealing Resolve and HP damage, even foes that are explicitly vulnerable to Horny are easier to smack down than to tease into submission.

As a corollary to this, I'm bummed out by the fact that, apparently, the only Power dealing Pheromone type damage we can ever learn or steal is a level 6 Thief power. So all those beastkin type enemies with 75% Pheromone vulnerability just keep taunting me.

And finally, speaking of running: the fact that you don't get any HP and Resolve recovery after fleeing combat means that more often than not you are just trading one loss scene for another one in the future, unless you are stacked on healing items or right outside of camp/town.
 
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As a corollary to this, I'm bummed out by the fact that, apparently, the only Power dealing Pheromone type damage we can ever learn or steal is a level 6 Thief power. So all those beastkin type enemies with 75% Pheromone vulnerability just keep taunting me.
The Rosebloom Shield converts damage from your Tease attack to Pheromone damage. Not a Power but it does let you take advantage of that weakness. Azzy's post-sleep perk also does the same thing on a temporary basis.
 
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LonelyHydra

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I'm also not sure how making Kas responsible for our appearance would be an improvement over sticking it right at the start if you really want to integrate the creation into the narrative,, especially if you're playing a Champ who isn't interested in any of Kas' TF offers.
It's not that she's responsible, she's just looking over your body.

Kas making flattering innuendos as the player chooses their appearance stats along with sexual boon, first lusting over our body before lusting after our soul. I don't think I'm able to explain any further how that`s terrifying and/or hot.

As for the way the Do Nothing option works, Tobs has already explained that one.
While I still think "the DM" just needs to ask the player if they want to kill/fuck demons or not, that was a decent enough answer. Much like the death of Aerith was meant to represent this thing called grief, I need to accept that a Champion that is Pure is Just Like That sometimes.

I will add that assuming subjectivity is so unknowable and unpenetrable is concerning as an artist. Sounds like quitter talk to me.

Back when we made that choice, the secret "ending" of FarCry was still culturally relevant :p
Don't all UbiSoft games do that now?
 
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You can already dick over Arona, and I'd like to put more content down her Exile line later (either Bimbofication or Demonification or w/e -- something to balance out losing the Orc Camp on her Chieftain line).
I would like to nominate Twinkification as a route for Arona, for the following reasons amongst others :
  • She has a "might is right/strong is never wrong" mind set, so what happens when you so completely fail; Particularly when you define yourself by means of strength and independence which you now realize was only borrowed from your community. A community from which you are exiled.
  • Lots of characters get swoll, none of them get smoll
  • Bimbofication and Demonification are generic fates this feels more like a personal nightmare
  • A post cage Ryn can always return the favour
  • a more conient size to put across your lap and chastise until she pops her rocks
  • The default Futa body part setting is Ostentatious it might be nice to set it to modest for a change

It is just a suggestion and I will understand if you feel it may be pandering to a certain class of Arona hater
 

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However long it takes to re-encounter her sister, I assume. Maybe she's a boss in korminos? or maybe the one after. I want her freed toooooo.
 
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IIRC Demon Alissa went north, separately from Kassyra. (Romance path). Kassyra went east with her dragon "daughter" to her lab.

In the antagonist route they all head off toghether?

Her lab could be down at Khorminos, which might explain the higher than "normal" quantity of imps down there. Which might end up being quite a nasty thing to untangle...
 
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GEESE

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the only thing I'm working off of is I assume she'd be the type who would need to be queen somewhere, even if its not the ice palace. whats to the north, anyways? besides the rift
 
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How far is the Ryn cage content, sigh she needn't wait long, right?
Either concurrent or immediately after the bulk of Khor'minos. You'll start seeing progress on it in a couple of patches though that should point out where it's taking place and why.
whats to the north, anyways? besides the rift
Uhhhh the North Pole?
 

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the only thing I'm working off of is I assume she'd be the type who would need to be queen somewhere, even if its not the ice palace. whats to the north, anyways? besides the rift
There's perhaps the Lumian Keep. IIRC one of the squares of the Rift is the start of a bridge towards the keep, but it goes nowhere as said keep is not in game.

The Lumian keep is visible from just about anywhere on the ice shelf as long as the conditions are right. With clear skies, it's pale, bluish white terraces literally glow in the light of the sun or moon. Up close, its majesty is even more breathtaking. It isn't overly embellished, like some of the fantastical castles from ancient myth, but even it's functional elements evoke a sense of awe. Rather than feeling intimidated by its size, the great arches seem surprisingly inviting.

The path leading up to the keeps main gates looks to be hewn from sheer ice, but after a brief period of careful prodding you find that you can't slip on it even if you wanted to! Still, peering over the edge and skirting the sides is ill-advised.

Or that might be simply another part of winter city that's "accessible" from up top the glacier...

Either concurrent or immediately after the bulk of Khor'minos. You'll start seeing progress on it in a couple of patches though that should point out where it's taking place and why.

I assume that after Alissa and the cage are handled, that there would still be the issue of a possible coronation, which would need the crown (that the champion found) to be fixed. AAnd then who would be the new queen's consort, and if said consort would be married and errr...become king? Not sure about this last part. Don't know how the boreal elves handle this type of stuff.
 
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Either concurrent or immediately after the bulk of Khor'minos. You'll start seeing progress on it in a couple of patches though that should point out where it's taking place and why.

Uhhhh the North Pole?
Ok, btw the sigh was more of a wait type thing like, I'm bored.

Are you sure? I thought there was just some crazy old dude up there. (Referencing Skyrim, Septimus Sigmus.)
 

Lone Wolf115

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Crown of Ice is entirely ancillary. Alissa has the actual royal crown that's been in use for 200 years.
(When the update to fight her comes out.)
Time to go Queen hunting.
So that means the one you find in the crypt is a ceremonial one.

What is in the right side of the crypt I was always, well best way to put it scared to find out?
 

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(When the update to fight her comes out.)
Time to go Queen hunting.
So that means the one you find in the crypt is a ceremonial one.

What is in the right side of the crypt I was always, well best way to put it scared to find out?
Uniwinnable fight against an unlimited ammount of ghosts.
 

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(When the update to fight her comes out.)
Time to go Queen hunting.
So that means the one you find in the crypt is a ceremonial one.

What is in the right side of the crypt I was always, well best way to put it scared to find out?
the harem of the queen who were faithful to the Old Wyld, you can't win in a fight but if you surrender you win
 
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It's literally unlimited my dude. That's not an exaggeration. You have to select defend or surrender to win.
Hmm well shit, I'll fight until low health or resolve then surrender, everyone has to know when they are beat.

Lusty fucking Queen she was.
 

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IIRC Demon Alissa went north, separately from Kassyra. (Romance path). Kassyra went east with her dragon "daughter" to her lab.
She actually went southeast, as Ryn will mention if you talk to her about Alissa afterwards. That means she's somewhere in the vague vicinity of Khor'minos, though as Ryn says it's unlikely she'd be in the city itself.

The Abyssal Depths dungeon actually provides two bits of relevant information: She has a new 'court' which Tollus has visited and most importantly for Ryn, she has her lethicite back as Kas handed the thing to her saying it wasn't fit to be consumed.
 
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She actually went southeast, as Ryn will mention if you talk to her about Alissa afterwards. That means she's somewhere in the vague vicinity of Khor'minos, though as Ryn says it's unlikely she'd be in the city itself.

The Abyssal Depths dungeon actually provides two bits of relevant information: She has a new 'court' which Tollus has visited and most importantly for Ryn, she has her lethicite back as Kas handed the thing to her saying it wasn't fit to be consumed.
I stand corrected.

That lethicite detail... hoo boy.

Not necessarily~

Oh boy, windy peaks perhaps?
 
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Best part, if all the recent talk was not just teasing, it means more bully content for Ryn is on our way! Yay!
On more serious note, hope this all means that we will have control of Ryns cage when we get the hold of her sisters soul.
 
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I stand corrected.

That lethicite detail... hoo boy.

That's probably because Ryn's cage is tied to Alissa's soul. Therefore we can kill two birds with one stone by beating Alissa again. IDK if a full demon can do anything with it anymore though. It's kinda funny though. Alissa is so disgusting and morally reprehensible, that even the main villain thinks she needs to chill. Although Kas probably has a reason for hating someone like Alissa.

Best part, if all the recent talk was not just teasing, it means more bully content for Ryn is in our! Yay!
On more serious note, hope this all means
that we will have control of Ryns cage when we get the hold of her sisters soul
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The eternal quest to bully never ends! But I do hope a corrupt route takes advantage of that potential power over Ryn. Not that I'd ever use it. I'm nice and totally don't do awful things and bully others to amuse myself. Not at all.
 

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That's probably because Ryn's cage is tied to Alissa's soul. Therefore we can kill two birds with one stone by beating Alissa again. IDK if a full demon can do anything with it anymore though. It's kinda funny though. Alissa is so disgusting and morally reprehensible, that even the main villain thinks she needs to chill. Although Kas probably has a reason for hating someone like Alissa.



The eternal quest to bully never ends! But I do hope a corrupt route takes advantage of that potential power over Ryn. Not that I'd ever use it. I'm nice and totally don't do awful things and bully others to amuse myself. Not at all.
I take things on games a little personal, and they are an outlet for me as well, but the point is I can't wait to stomp a mudhole in Alissa's ass even as a demon she is not fit to live, hell she will be even worse, I wouldn't keep her around even in my Corruption Character.
 
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