Your gripes with CoC II

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wadarkhu

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cause a lot of it is 4 "pages" of non sex content.
As long as it's either good or ends up in sex content I'm good. I read books, and I read "books" that are just tons of pages to justify a sex scene. I've got the resilience for that. It's just filler content that I can't abide. Content that doesn't end up in porn or meaningful interactions.
 

Tide Hunter

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It's just filler content that I can't abide. Content that doesn't end up in porn or meaningful interactions.
I don't really consider Dog Days to be filler. The way I see it, its main purpose is to serve as an introduction to Garret and Hethia, and it can even influence your future interactions with Hethia. While you may not know it when you initially do the quest, she serves as an important character in the main story later on.
 

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Dog Days also doesn't have to be resolved peacefully. There are several ways to finish it: fighting Hethia, talking Hethia down yourself in a brief conversation battle, or bringing Sanders or Etheryn to talk Hethia down. While it's possible to do the whole thing with zero combat by picking the Hunter/Barbarian backgrounds at character creation and bringing Etheryn or Sanders to handle the talky-talk, it's also possible to have to do several fights during the course of the quest.
 

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I don't really consider Dog Days to be filler. The way I see it, its main purpose is to serve as an introduction to Garret and Hethia, and it can even influence your future interactions with Hethia. While you may not know it when you initially do the quest, she serves as an important character in the main story later on.
I thought if you attack her and steal her bow she doesn't show up later. am I misremembering, because she can't really be of any importance if she isn't there.

I was in fact misremembering but in my defense I haven't actually played in a while.
 
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wery12345

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Isn't the talking it yourself one of the like 3 fucking cunning checks in the game.
 

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I thought if you attack her and steal her bow she doesn't show up later. am I misremembering, because she can't really be of any importance if she isn't there.
She shows up whether you resolve it with combat or with peace. She's much more hostile if you beat her up. and attempting to mend the relationship needs you to return the bow she drops.
 

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Isn't the talking it yourself one of the like 3 fucking cunning checks in the game.
No, doing a parley leads to one of the conversation battles (and a short, easy version of one too, essentially acting as an introduction to the mechanic).
 

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I for one actually really like the inclusion of non-porn content. Like, just because it's a porn game doesn't mean all it's decisions and story sections need to be about reaching the next sex scene, you can have stuff to enrich the world itself in between and Dog Days does give an insight to a character or help with context depending on who you bring. It may just be my weird brand of asexuality speaking here, but I do like giving a damn about the games world and non-sex content is a way to do that.

Kinda why I like Valencia's and Serena's content so much. While it does unlock sex scenes and content, the stuff in between is great and stands on its own. Also I'm a sucker for romance. Two reasons I like it.
 
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Isn't the talking it yourself one of the like 3 fucking cunning checks in the game.
Also, there are a lot more Cunning checks in the game than that! They just generally change dialogue rather than gating conversation options.
 

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Huh, didn't know that, I get it's probably impossible but it'd be nice to know if something changed in the dioluge due to a stat requirement being met. I'm not smart enough to be able to see the difference.
 

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I don't have a horse-cock fetish, but these games did give me a lot of interest in (the wrong hole)-play which I was not expecting.

For now though I'm just lurking, waiting for expansions to Brint's/Brienne's family content and more preg stuff in May.
 

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I've just accepted there will be another one to fawn over every other backer patch at this point xD
Considering that the last public patch added Sandre and Caera (both demon ladies with horsecocks) and the next to last backer patch added Vacia (succucow with a horsecock) you might be onto something here... and the last backer patch added a new Kasyrra scene. Oh, and for horsecock attached to males the latter two updates added one new character and one new Brint scene too.
 

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I mean I get what you're saying but people have differing standards of what constitutes attractive musculature especially for men and women. Or even just what works for the characters.

Take the Hulk and She-Hulk. He is a full-on Ogre/Giant-looking fellow, while she is closer to a beautiful fitness model (or maybe a good-looking female bodybuilder depending on the artist). Oh sure, some people draw musclegirls as borderline masculine in build, but sadly some people hate the idea of girls with such explicit muscles.

Also worth bearing in mind is that Brint and Brienne have differing personalities and sexual tastes. Not in that they aren't both bisexual (or at least player-sexual to a degree) but moreso that Brint is very dominant and aggressive, and wants to top most of the time, but Brienne is more submissive and like a wifey type to us. In that sense, the whole massive, built like an apartment block density of musculature can be said to work perfectly for Brint but for Brienne, a slimmer and more feminine but still muscular build works better. Note that even once she's pregnant, she's still plenty strong and capable. She just needs to adjust her stance and how she carries herself.
Funny enough, I went looking at She-Hulk as an example and actually they went with making her look more like a behemoth like the Hulk for 2018 Avengers.1649710172010.png 1649710764461.png

And I was kinda hoping that the gender swap would be more like, appearance focused instead of also messing with his personality that much? Like sure, new stuff's suddenly a turn on but what's the point if she's not gonna tuck Cait under her arm and use her throughout the night if you're sleeping alone at the Frost March? I kinda would've rather they be an entirely separate character if you're gonna flip their personality that much. Like, imagine if Cait had a genderswap that wore more clothes, flirted all the time and rarely put out. Might as well be a different character entirely. I dunno, I just doubt there'll be a Giant/giantess party member so I'm just whining that we don't get Tomboy Brienne trying to break your bed every night.
 

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Wsan has already made it clear that there are Reasons the armor does what it does which we'll learn about during the KM plot.
I dunno, I just doubt there'll be a Giant/giantess party member
Companion submissions have been closed for over a year so once Viv's companion content gets implemented that's it.
so I'm just whining that we don't get Tomboy Brienne trying to break your bed every night.
Brienne will happily try to break your bed (and pelvis) every night so I think you're more whining about Brienne not looking exactly like you wanted her to than about what she does or doesn't do. At this point I refer you back to the point I already made about minotaur sexual dimorphism.
 

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At this point I refer you back to the point I already made about minotaur sexual dimorphism.
i will say... i feel like "sexual dimorphism" is kind of a cop-out. like, how people complain when, in fiction, men look like cool monsters and the women of the same species are always somehow human big titty girls. i feel the complaint is valid, so let's just be honest about the reason - that's not what the author had in mind for brienne.

i think the most productive thing for watchering here to do is to ask in "what content would you like to see" for a minotaur lady that meets his needs.
 

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Sometimes I think people forget that brienne is still a 8ft tall wall of meat and abs who wants to put the fucking champ through their bed.
 
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i will say... i feel like "sexual dimorphism" is kind of a cop-out. like, how people complain when, in fiction, men look like cool monsters and the women of the same species are always somehow human big titty girls. i feel the complaint is valid, so let's just be honest about the reason - that's not what the author had in mind for brienne.
Oh! That's a simple enough answer that I can wrap my head around. Okay then!

They've changed her back recently just to point out.
Oh I'm sure they did, that was 4 years ago, comic characters get a new design every 5 weeks if they're not Wonder Woman.
 

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Personally, I just wish Brienne was dommy, rather than subby. Because Brint was dommy, and not (most of the time) subby. All the other changes, sure, but her being subby just feels weird.
The silver lining atleast is that while we don't get dommy Brienne, she does give us access to Domme Rina! I'd totally love to have dommy Brienne as well but Rina's scenes so far are <3 but just lacking repeatable ones.
 
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Like, imagine if Cait had a genderswap that wore more clothes, flirted all the time and rarely put out. Might as well be a different character entirely.
That would be sweet. A playful catboy husbando that is shy under the sheets.

And as plasmi said, the whole personality change is there because Wsan wanted it like that and because of Meta aspects. He did not want to force the players to restart the game to get Brienne (If I remember right) so he just wrote in-game transformation for him. The reason for personality change is everyone's guess.
Personally, I wish Brint was more like Brienne, not other way around. A subby, monogamous buff dude is a sweet concept but I understand most people are not into it.

The silver lining atleast is that while we don't get dommy Brienne, she does give us access to Domme Rina! I'd totally love to have dommy Brienne as well but Rina's scenes so far are <3 but just lacking repeatable ones.
Only if you have vagina tho which sucks for dick havers that like femdom.
 
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wery12345

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Ironically the fluffs I think have the most femdom like scenes for dick havers, that aren't futa.

Though I just like brint because he's wrote as a bro for champs who haven't taken the meat pole.
 
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i will say... i feel like "sexual dimorphism" is kind of a cop-out. like, how people complain when, in fiction, men look like cool monsters and the women of the same species are always somehow human big titty girls. i feel the complaint is valid, so let's just be honest about the reason - that's not what the author had in mind for brienne.

i think the most productive thing for watchering here to do is to ask in "what content would you like to see" for a minotaur lady that meets his needs.

Just gonna fully retype the minotaur sexual dimorphism essay, for anyone who hasn't read it:

Brint's kind of minotaur, Southern/KM, has the men being full cow and the women being human with cow features. Kavi's kind of minotaur, Northern, has the women being full cow and the men being small and cute human boys with cow features. Even their cultures are mirrored, in that Northern women are the ones who fight and hunt, while their boytoy harems take care of the houses. This is explained by the two original genders of minotaur gaining vastly different sexual preferences in the Olden Days once they started mingling with humans, then eventually splitting off from each other and becoming two separate peoples (reinforced by alchemy and this kind of selective breeding). The minotaurs are the only race so far that has this kind of dimorphism, as well. Everyone else just has basic height/muscularity/curvy differences.

The minotaur dimorphism is much more fleshed out here than in most other media with cow people.


If/when Kavi gets sexual content, she would definitely fit into their need to be dommed by a massive furry cow lady. She's even the same height as Brienne, but she's broader-bodied and her muscles are hidden under a layer of fur and squishiness.
 
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Funny enough, I went looking at She-Hulk as an example and actually they went with making her look more like a behemoth like the Hulk for 2018 Avengers.View attachment 23110 View attachment 23111
That is true. But I'd also like to point out this was one of the most controversial changes they made to an existing character in years.
And I was kinda hoping that the gender swap would be more like, appearance focused instead of also messing with his personality that much? Like sure, new stuff's suddenly a turn on but what's the point if she's not gonna tuck Cait under her arm and use her throughout the night if you're sleeping alone at the Frost March? I kinda would've rather they be an entirely separate character if you're gonna flip their personality that much. Like, imagine if Cait had a genderswap that wore more clothes, flirted all the time and rarely put out. Might as well be a different character entirely. I dunno, I just doubt there'll be a Giant/giantess party member so I'm just whining that we don't get Tomboy Brienne trying to break your bed every night.
I mean, I get that, but you can let her ride you cowgirl style at least. Also as others have pointed out, she'll still try to break your bed from the bottom.

Only if you have vagina tho which sucks for dick havers that like femdom.
I mean, for those who like femdom there are quite a few dommy futas out there, and IG they want Brint/Brienne's family to be mainly femsub.
i will say... i feel like "sexual dimorphism" is kind of a cop-out. like, how people complain when, in fiction, men look like cool monsters and the women of the same species are always somehow human big titty girls. i feel the complaint is valid, so let's just be honest about the reason - that's not what the author had in mind for brienne.
Putting aside the above explanation about why minotaurs in this setting have such sexual dimorphism written-in quite well, I'm guessing they felt Brienne as a musclular dom would overlap/clash with Dom Arona. That, and the writer wanted to write Brienne as a different character rather than just Brint-as-a-lady.
 

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Winter City events can fire too close together imo. Most recent save, I entered the palace
and triggered the druid talk, went to leave the palace and trigger the banshee quest, went to check out the banshee stuff and triggered Elyon.
An enforced cooldown might help this? Also ran into the same stuff with kitsune stuff,
a festival event triggered at Kiyoko's home before I got the "first time visiting after they are freed from orb and set up" event.
 

wery12345

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Oh that was a yearly event for the kitsune, it just kinda checks if in or or not, but how the fuck did you proc all 3 winter city.
 
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