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Did someone say Grimdark?!
*pulls out Inquisitorial Rosette and summons a Death Watch retinue*
Foul Xenos scum! You will be purged from this galaxy!
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Wait, wrong universe, sorry.
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There is an irresistible force meeting an immovable object problem in porn games. It goes like this:
1) Pregnancy is a big fetish. You could say it's the fetish, when you get down to it. Both male and female players want to see it, in various different ways. If you don't have the ability to stuff the player character/their favourite slut with spawn, your base is bound to demand it.
2) Children in porn is a double red line.
Unless your game is very simple and/or heavily homo orientated (and often not even then), you've got to come up with a way of surmounting this. I think TiTS' solution, of a safe zone where kids are immediately placed upon birth, and where cute content could feasibly go if anyone's willing to write it, is actually one of the things it's done very well, at least in principle. It certainly beats what most smut games do, which is have the kids only in bad or good ends.
That's what I was getting at: children themselves serve very little purpose in a porn game. A ~hyperrealistic child-rearing simulator~ clearly isn't what people are clamoring for and the mere presence of kids cramps the style of the lewd stuff. So either they get almost entirely ignored as with TiTS where you're essentially dumping them off in a space orphanage until you feel like stopping by for a cute waifu scene involving them or they go the eroge route and write them in as part of an epilogue that allows for some cuteness without also necessarily making your character a deadbeat/absentee parent.There is an irresistible force meeting an immovable object problem in porn games. It goes like this:
1) Pregnancy is a big fetish. You could say it's the fetish, when you get down to it. Both male and female players want to see it, in various different ways. If you don't have the ability to stuff the player character/their favourite slut with spawn, your base is bound to demand it.
2) Children in porn is a double red line.
Unless your game is very simple and/or heavily homo orientated (and often not even then), you've got to come up with a way of surmounting this. I think TiTS' solution, of a safe zone where kids are immediately placed upon birth, and where cute content could feasibly go if anyone's willing to write it, is actually one of the things it's done very well, at least in principle. It certainly beats what most smut games do, which is have the kids only in bad or good ends.
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Not tooting my own tooter or anything...
Hopefully this convinces a few people to choose the D A R K P A T H with her.
3. Certain submissive/dominant tendencies. This unfortunately rates highly enough to make it to number 3. It's very noticeable when randomers ask for the ability to impregnate Sera, for instance, it's framed as a kind of final victory over her. On the flip side when I'm asked to do/look at PC-gets-knocked-up stuff there is very often an overpowering and increasing submissiveness element to it. It's extremely rare to see anything where the roles are flipped.
Not really, just look at the raskvel pregnancy. The individual raskvel isn't tracked, just a flag that determines if you knocked one of them up or not, and then five days after the event, a scene can trigger where you see the birth, and it's the same every time. After that you never see that raskvel again. It's even easier when the PC is knocked up, as the male never needs to be mentioned again. For example, the sydian pregnancy. Both are relatively barebones in content, but demonstrate that it is much easier to write pregnancies for generic characters rather than named NPCs. The only things that are absolutely necessary are the fertility check for existing vaginal scenes, and a birthing scene.But with randomn monster also having option to knock up PC/been knock up-able by PC will add element of tracking them and later possible some interactions that PC can have later. So named onr npc or generic monter it's still near the same work needed with generic monsters ave few less things that req. writer attention.
Not tooting my own tooter or anything... Hopefully this convinces a few people to choose the D A R K P A T H with her.
ayyy found another Myrellion lover \('w')/To be honest there are only a handful of people that I ABSOLUTELY want to be preggers content and two of them are already as much so as they ever will be. These being QotD and Taivra. In case you can't tell I'm a big fan of Myrellion. Except for the damned formix it's a fucking awesome place.
Yup yup, except for the damned ant people Myrellion would be freakin awesome. But once I decimate their cultural differences by forcing them ALL to become Orange Formix, My world will be a paradise again.ayyy found another Myrellion lover \('w')/
Are you trying to summon a shitstorm?But once I decimate their cultural differences by forcing them ALL to become Orange Formix, My world will be a paradise again.
Are you trying to summon a shitstorm?
Because that went well on the Myrelion planetary thread...I believe he was trying to summon laughter as he's making a joke through comedic exaggeration
And there are definite links between many of them that those who're actually writing characters don't want to make knowing full well what's going on in some people's minds.If I was to make guesses, based on how preg content is usually framed in these games and what people ask for regarding it, I'd say these are the things players want from it, roughly in order of importance:
Yes this. I'm sorry I haven't read the myrellion planetary thread. I didn't want other people's head-cannon for my favorite planet to fuck with mine.I believe he was trying to summon laughter as he's making a joke through comedic exaggeration
And there are definite links between many of them that those who're actually writing characters don't want to make knowing full well what's going on in some people's minds.
For a good chunk the whole ridiculously sized ding dongs and gallons of jussum thing has an inevitable end in the nursery because the whole thing was all a single arc of an idealized phallus-worshipping male virility fantasy where the pregnancy is nothing but verification of just how much of a ~stud~ their character, and by extension they themselves, are. And to stay in line with this angle there's definitely a desire for pregnancy to be a submissive act and impregnating a dominant one. It's not hard to see why writers who weren't going for that themselves would have little to no interest or even animosity towards the idea of writing content for their character that's nothing but overlong stroking of someone else's 2 foot horse-shaped egoboner. Alternatively as you mentioned using it as some form of ultimate comeuppance against a character they don't like/believe to be too full of themselves and so should be full of them. This preggo content is going to fall short simply because, even knowing what's desired, there's little likelihood of it being written that way.
On the flip side of that the fecundity fantasy, focusing on the pregnancy happening to the player is more implemented here (in part because the desire behind the content isn't a derailment from things writers have planned - if something like this is in the game then it was written that way from the get-go - and the PC is a blank slate so arcs aren't being interfered with), and with different dominant/submissive/not-so-fetishy flavors, even, but those fall short too because the end of it necessarily breaks the fantasy. The PC has to be able to go back to the status quo/act like it never happened to continue the adventure, after all. Catering fully to that would mean either a good/bad end that focuses on mommyhood, as a broodmother slut or permanent sub/dom to their baby daddy or even totally vanilla parent, or some elaborate branching path where the kid/pregnancy/pregnancies are more central. No one's going to get that elaborate even if the basics of the fetish are more agreeable to the writers.
The last major one is arcs, which are at play in both of those but here we're talking people who like what the characters are and want their relationship with the PC to be more central to it. Pregnancy there is more about becoming more intimate with them. But that ends up stepping on toes again even if writers don't find the desire as distasteful. Everyone's got their ideas on where they want their characters to end up and it's not necessarily catering to a player's intense desire to see lots and lots of saccharine waifu scenes. This one suffers the most from what-the-heck-do-you-even-want syndrome since players get attached to the characters and want them to be the PC's snuggleslave but also want to see what stories and adventures they're going to have on their own. Trying to write kids in that both do and don't matter to the characters is stretching in different directions and results in the oddest of the half-measures.
I mostly agree with all of your points Nonesuch, but I don't think the bold part is entirely right. As one of those who 'clamor' for pregnancy content, I'd totally love to dom an NPC into knocking me up or the inverse of submitting to an NPC using me as a fuckpole to make babies with. Hell I'd say part of the reason it isn't asked for as much is because scenes like that are already in the game in bulk; like whenever a male PC is raped by a female NPC, or a female PC rapes a male NPC. Hell you've written content that falls into this, Able gets topped by female PC's, all that's missing is the ability for him to knock-up the PC.
Reaha pregnant content would be much appreciated.
She's not infertile. It's a species thing. If anything, there were talks of considering Ellie if PC is leithan.The notoriously infertile taur chick on NT, I forgot her name, the shopkeeper.