What content would you like added?

[mikethor007]

The harpies would get horns and nothing else would change. They're already acting like demon cultists, so it wouldn't be a big change.

I still think that their current tendencies would be cranked up to 11. Plus they would turn into a vector for spreading corruption.

I find it chilling if there's a possibility of Zhara getting corrupted, as I sired a couple of kids with her. Don't know what a demon version of her would do to the kids. Mileage may vary of course, a ton of players probably will not have kids with her ever.

 

[Burnerbro]

Imagine how annoying a horde of malicious birds can be? Hawkthorne's streets will run white, and not in a sexy way.

On a more serious note, if effigies and hornets were a decent threat to the town and its people, harpies will be too, especially with their innate abilities buffed by corruption. Plus even without Champion sired kids being in the picture, I'd like to keep harpies from harm or help them, for Shar and Zhara's sake if nothing else.

 

[Lone Wolf115]

Imagine how annoying a horde of malicious birds can be? Hawkthorne's streets will run white, and not in a sexy way.

On a more serious note, if effigies and hornets were a decent threat to the town and its people, harpies will be too, especially with their innate abilities buffed by corruption. Plus even without Champion sired kids being in the picture, I'd like to keep harpies from harm or help them, for Shar and Zhara's sake if nothing else.

Just gotta stomp a mudhole in someone's ass we all know who that is. Kas the source, not being mean to her I have a character for her just one to go the Corruption route. I'm saying to curb the corruption just catch up to her.
Also bang her into the sheets and give her the kids she wants.
Are the "daughters" that Kas brings from Mareth the same as Kiha? The angry dragoness from the first one is she one of them?

 

[WolframL]

Are the "daughters" that Kas brings from Mareth the same as Kiha?

Yes

 

[Lone Wolf115]

Yes

Thanks for the confirmation, does the wiki tell if Kiha still has her soul? I believe she does because she's just angry about what happened and she gives birth to regular lizans not imps? Did I just answer my own question?

 

[WolframL]

You did, and Savin answered it for you in that linked post.

 

[Lone Wolf115]

If I'm honest I only read the post about Kiha being the same as Kas' daughters.

 

[Wint3rRyd3r]

I still think that their current tendencies would be cranked up to 11. Plus they would turn into a vector for spreading corruption.

They attack and fuck everything that moves. Being corrupted or demonified would just broadcast it to anyone who hasn't had the displeasure of meeting them. They are a prime example of quantity over quality.

Imagine how annoying a horde of malicious birds can be? Hawkthorne's streets will run white, and not in a sexy way.

On a more serious note, if effigies and hornets were a decent threat to the town and its people, harpies will be too, especially with their innate abilities buffed by corruption. Plus even without Champion sired kids being in the picture, I'd like to keep harpies from harm or help them, for Shar and Zhara's sake if nothing else.

I'm not disputing that they'd be less or equally annoying or that they couldn't spread corruption. I'm saying the minor threat they pose would just become a different type of minor threat. And everything threatens Hawkethorne. They clearly don't have a well-trained or well-equipped militia. But those effigies were just walking 1-ply tissue paper and the hornets outside of Azzy and the ones in the hive weren't that strong. Azzyran and the royal hornet family are outliers of strength. If Hawkthorne had a properly trained militia with proper equipment, then only the orcs, centaurs, and cultists would pose an immediate threat. Maybe Gweyr coming back can fix that, at least on the training front. And I'm in favor of giving the mercs a taste of their own medicine, steal their stuff, and run them off. That'd fix both problems. That said, helping them not get corrupted for Shar's sake and any potential kids is a good reason. Maybe not Zhara. She's just as bad as the other harpies.

TL;DR Harpies suck and are weak and corruption won't change that and we should help Sorra get rid of them so she can get better followers by attaching wings to things that shouldn't have wings. Flying pigs when?

 

[mikethor007]

Flying pigs when?

Flying cows are better.

There, I said it.

 

[Savin]

I wonder what sort of BLEEP would go down if the Matron managed to get turned into a demon. Oof.

That'd probably be quite terrible. Can you imagine the volume of imps/day she'd pump out?

Harpies we meet are savage and fuck-hungry, seemingly as a result of being forsaken by Sorra.

Implying this isn't the default state of harpies.

 

[mikethor007]

That'd probably be quite terrible. Can you imagine the volume of imps/day she'd pump out?

Oohhhh boy, have to prepare myself for that to happen. The little shits are troublesome enough in the Undermountain....

EDIT: Quite like the breeding factory that must be somewhere under there...For the ammount of imps that show up in that one encounter. Hope we get a chance to put the kibosh on that and make a sizeable dent in the "imp production pipeline".

 

[jwins]

With all the new tfs being added it sure would be nice to get an option to not pick up every single thing you find on the ground. Not everyone is into tfs and they only serve to clutter the inventory and get sold for pennies if you didn't bother to toss them out when you got the "drop an item to pick this up" screen for the nth time.

 

[mikethor007]

With all the new tfs being added it sure would be nice to get an option to not pick up every single thing you find on the ground. Not everyone is into tfs and they only serve to clutter the inventory and get sold for pennies if you didn't bother to toss them out when you got the "drop an item to pick this up" screen for the nth time.

Strangely enough picking up some of the items is indeed optional. It'd be a question of extending that treatment to all of them.

Don't know how much of a bother it would be to put it into code though...

 

[WhoAmI]

With all the new tfs being added it sure would be nice to get an option to not pick up every single thing you find on the ground. Not everyone is into tfs and they only serve to clutter the inventory and get sold for pennies if you didn't bother to toss them out when you got the "drop an item to pick this up" screen for the nth time.

Reagents have their own separate container. Why not do the same for transformation items, too?

 

[SmithEK]

Wait isn't Kiha in CoC1? Or are we talking about another NPC in CoC2?
When does the harpy mention her name in the game, or does she not? The harpy leader..

 

[Lone Wolf115]

Wait isn't Kiha in CoC1? Or are we talking about another NPC in CoC2?
When does the harpy mention her name in the game, or does she not? The harpy leader..

Yes CoC1.
No she doesn't but it's on the wiki the harpy wingleader not the matron.

 

[Jorr The Great]

Wait isn't Kiha in CoC1? Or are we talking about another NPC in CoC2?
When does the harpy mention her name in the game, or does she not? The harpy leader..

She is the same as CoC1, Kiha is one of the daughters who escaped from the demons and therefore does not cross the portal to Savarra along with the others.

 

[Rear Admiral Chimera]

I think the only one that mentions the wingleader's name so far is her sister, Shar.

 

[SmithEK]

She is the same as CoC1, Kiha is one of the daughters who escaped from the demons and therefore does not cross the portal to Savarra along with the others.

Damn I didn't know that. The way Kiha acted towards our champions at the very start of their interactions and demons in general I'm quite surprised by that. And the fact she can have real babies and not Imps like her mother (though I read that on wiki, haven't gotten the chance to try knocking her up with my herms). Do you think Kiha would make an appearance in CoC2? I mean it's not impossible, seeing as Kas and whathername came through.

 

[Lone Wolf115]

Damn I didn't know that. The way Kiha acted towards our champions at the very start of their interactions and demons in general I'm quite surprised by that. And the fact she can have real babies and not Imps like her mother (though I read that on wiki, haven't gotten the chance to try knocking her up with my herms). Do you think Kiha would make an appearance in CoC2? I mean it's not impossible, seeing as Kas and whathername came through.

Not likely she's most likely to be with the champ, I found it odd that the Champion isn't able to build a cabin in the original without mods, but we are all of track.

 

[WolframL]

Do you think Kiha would make an appearance in CoC2? I mean it's not impossible, seeing as Kas and whathername came through.

Savin and Tobs have both mentioned that we aren't going to see any other characters crossing over (save Taoth), the closest we'll probably ever get is the Bad End in the Palace of Ice where you can get kicked through a portal to Mareth and end up in one of several places.

So yeah, no direct appearance by Kiha in CoC2, though it's possible Aileh or Kas could indirectly mention her at some point.

 

[Lone Wolf115]

Savin and Tobs have both mentioned that we aren't going to see any other characters crossing over (save Taoth), the closest we'll probably ever get is the Bad End in the Palace of Ice where you can get kicked through a portal to Mareth and end up in one of several places.

So yeah, no direct appearance by Kiha in CoC2, though it's possible Aileh or Kas could indirectly mention her at some point.

What Taoth why shouldn't he be fighting the demons again even them being fractured one of them could get stronger than the rest and reunite them?
She'll be mentioned as the one that got away.

 

[mikethor007]

What Taoth why shouldn't he be fighting the demons again even them being fractured one of them could get stronger than the rest and reunite them?
She'll be mentioned as the one that got away.

Taoth is the one behind Raphael and his cohorts. Or at least the names of those enemies seem to imply that. All of them are "Taothian" something.

I wonder how he will be handled though. He's a divinity. An uninvited one that is causing problems. Keros? The champion?

Kiyoko absorbing Taoth as it was said to be planned at some point would be ... awkward as hell.

 

[Lone Wolf115]

Taoth is the one behind Raphael and his cohorts. Or at least the names of those enemies seem to imply that. All of them are "Taothian" something.

I wonder how he will be handled though. He's a divinity. An uninvited one that is causing problems. Keros? The champion?

Kiyoko absorbing Taoth as it was said to be planned at some point would be ... awkward as hell.

Well I'll take care of him he's attacking my family so Keros will have to respect that and back up if he is there by choice well I'll teach him the only way that everyone else learns a nice swift ass kicking.

My slut-sune if that will happen then I'll make sure that she doesn't let the power get to her head.

 

[Tide Hunter]

I want to have access to the Powers menu disabled if the only power which you are currently able to use is your at-will. It's small, but it'd just remove the annoyance of entering the powers menu at the start of every turn, saying "Oh right, everything is on cooldown," and backing out to do a basic attack.

 

[mikethor007]

My slut-sune if that will happen then I'll make sure that she doesn't let the power get to her head.

I have no idea how a divine kiyoko would be handled. Divinities generally don't concern themselves with the material plane unless it's something REALLY bad. Would she keep showing up at the family home? Still have kids? Get in the champion's party? Admittedly, Keros did that with Chizuru and company, but was there a family life at all, or did he just sire the kids and poof! disappear?

And why pass that kind of power to Kiyoko when the one that needs it the most seems to be the champion? He/she needs that kind of powerup to be able to go against Kas, a 20 level demon against a level 10 (at most) champion. There's a pretty big disparity in power there.

 

[Lone Wolf115]

I have no idea how a divine kiyoko would be handled. Divinities generally don't concern themselves with the material plane unless it's something REALLY bad. Would she keep showing up at the family home? Still have kids? Get in the champion's party? Admittedly, Keros did that with Chizuru and company, but was there a family life at all, or did he just sire the kids and poof! disappear?

And why pass that kind of power to Kiyoko when the one that needs it the most seems to be the champion? He/she needs that kind of powerup to be able to go against Kas, a 20 level demon against a level 10 (at most) champion. There's a pretty big disparity in power there.

She's smart she wouldn't up and leave her family.
The Champion is just a badass plenty of badasses have defeated an enemy stronger than them. Somethings shouldn't be questioned.

 

[WolframL]

And why pass that kind of power to Kiyoko when the one that needs it the most seems to be the champion? He/she needs that kind of powerup to be able to go against Kas, a 20 level demon against a level 10 (at most) champion. There's a pretty big disparity in power there.

Seeing how Kinuquest is gated behind multiple levels of completely optional content, there's absolutely no chance that if that concept is still slated to happen in some form, it would be used to explain how the Champion is able to go toe to toe with Kas. Winning against someone who's stronger than you is, like, Heroics 101.

 

[mikethor007]

Seeing how Kinuquest is gated behind multiple levels of completely optional content, there's absolutely no chance that if that concept is still slated to happen in some form, it would be used to explain how the Champion is able to go toe to toe with Kas. Winning against someone who's stronger than you is, like, Heroics 101.

Well, something will have to happen so he/she doesn't get squicked by crits of over 100 damage. Perhaps the balancing of level 10 will ensure that.

 

[KingDragonSendsHisRegards]

That'd probably be quite terrible. Can you imagine the volume of imps/day she'd pump out?

I just realized something: If everyone in Savarra (or Mareth) were all turned into demons, wouldn't they eventually die out? Demons are only capable of giving birth to imps, who if you didn't realize are all male. No females means no reproduction. No reproduction means no successors and what follows is extinction. There's also the question of a demon's lifespan. The obvious answer would be to say that they're immortal, but when you take into account that CoC's version of demons are VERY different from general demons portrayed by pop culture, the answer starts to get a bit convoluted. And even if they are immortal, they aren't unkillable, and accidents do still happen, as demons are anything but perfect. All in all, the demons -if my hypothesis is correct- are fucked by simply existing, and not in the good way.