the rival

[Bocoom]

sooooo did anyone else realize that the rival in the game is just like the rival from pokemon blue/red version. they both have an arrogant personality and will belittle you constantly. they are always one step ahead of you in collecting data probes(badges) while you go from planet(town) to planet. I have a feeling someone else pointed this out before me.

 

[Xeivous]

Yeah the rival is pretty much that. Only the Jack/Jill isn't very competent. Also this rivalry is probably going to end in death, a fate worse than death, or incest.

 

[Ormael]

Well I not think since it's H-game it will ends in death...some other fate like similar one to this from bad end for Tavira when pc picking rival fate. And if even death I think scene will be really short and quite briefly say what happened. I keep high bet on incest outcome as one of possible options

 

[zero point sixty]

Yeah the rival is pretty much that. Only the Jack/Jill isn't very competent. Also this rivalry is probably going to end in death, a fate worse than death, or incest.

I wouldn't mind seeing at least a chance at a redemption or team-up type ending. The game even kinda hints at this, I think when Victor warns you about your cousin (in an email?) he says to try not to hate them since they're mostly a product of their terrible father (sound like anyone Steele might know?). So perhaps with the right choices you can turn them around. Maybe Uncle Max tries to grab all of SteeleTech for himself and you team up with your rival, offering them all of whatever his company is called in return.


Of course none of that would necessarily preclude an incest ending :|

 

[Xeivous]

I wouldn't mind seeing at least a chance at a redemption or team-up type ending. The game even kinda hints at this, I think when Victor warns you about your cousin (in an email?) he says to try not to hate them since they're mostly a product of their terrible father (sound like anyone Steele might know?). So perhaps with the right choices you can turn them around. Maybe Uncle Max tries to grab all of SteeleTech for himself and you team up with your rival, offering them all of whatever his company is called in return.


Of course none of that would necessarily preclude an incest ending :|

Reconciliation with a side of cousinfucking is what I hope to get as an ending option for the Rival's arc.

 

[zero point sixty]

Hell, where I'm from that doesn't even count as incest (legally, I think). Though we do still consider it pretty transgressive/taboo. Which is part of why a lot of people are into it, I guess. I ain't here to kinkshame anyone.

 

[Xeivous]

Hell, where I'm from that doesn't even count as incest (legally, I think). Though we do still consider it pretty transgressive/taboo. Which is part of why a lot of people are into it, I guess. I ain't here to kinkshame anyone.

We can pork our half sister who is old enough to be our mother, and from what I can tell of the docs I've found, we probably have a chance at our niece as well.

 

[shadefalcon]

We can pork our half sister who is old enough to be our mother, and from what I can tell of the docs I've found, we probably have a chance at our niece as well.

I'd be all for doing both, but I feel like being discovered by or suggesting it to Shade would put me on the black void's bounty board...If she hasn't already taken care of me herself...From a previous conversation with her she seemed somewhat protective over her daughter.


As for the rival, I'd never kill her even if given the choice (I say her because I always choose Jill). I'm all for som reconciliation and wincest, and in the case of my mean Steele turning her into a sub.

 

[Etis]

I'd be all for doing both, but I feel like being discovered by or suggesting it to Shade would put me on the black void's bounty board...

I think my Steele already there for helping Kara and Saendra


Actually, I really hope there would be scene with Amara finding me being at the Shade's house as guest... Or maybe with Kaede.


For the topic - wincest sounds good!

 

[Klaptrap]

Steele, my cousin! Let's go see some big New Texan titties!

 

[shadefalcon]

Honestly, I really, really want to make a friend out a Jill. And then a lover. And then, once we've worked out our differences through the power of sexual intercourse, I'd SMASH HER HEAD IN WITH A-- Nah, I'm kidding. I'm unreasonably into the idea of letting Jill win, actually. Probably just wanting to be her sub. Ambition be damned.

There´s no reason for her not to be your domme just because you´re her boss. Just think of all the payback she would give you in bed 

 

[shadefalcon]

That would honestly be hilarious. Like you keep her as your secretary or assistant or something while you're the hotshot CEO of SteeleTech, then the clock hits 5:00pm and she gives you a smirk and viciously smacks your ass on the way out the door... I'd like that  

Exactly what I was thinking of. Any given situation where you chew her out, or something similiar, you know you´ll get paid back tenfolds later xD


It would´ve been brilliant xD  

 

[Nik_van_Rijn]

Actually, I really hope there would be scene with Amara finding me being at the Shade's house as guest... Or maybe with Kaede.

Since the Void is Space Mafia, that would possibly go one of two ways depending on what type of popular culture image that particular author will go with. The variant involving Kaede would probably work much better as a character development moment than it would as a porn scenario, simply because there is too much emotional baggage there.

Honestly, I really, really want to make a friend out a Jill. And then a lover. And then, once we've worked out our differences through the power of sexual intercourse, I'd SMASH HER HEAD IN WITH A-- Nah, I'm kidding. I'm unreasonably into the idea of letting Jill win, actually. Probably just wanting to be her sub. Ambition be damned.

Why would you go with Rival instead of any of the much more competent and/or reasonable doms Captain Steele meets on their journey? On their own, I understand the appeal of both 'reforming a spoiled bitch' and 'raising your own mistress' scenarious, but combining them together...


Maybe it's just because I am not subbing hard enough.

 

[Zavos]

At least the rival isn't poaching our claims.  My conspiracy theory is that Victor hadn't overlooked this.  (he did mention that the rival might come after the PC in the email).  It would be so precious if the Rival gets to the final probe first but, surprise surprise, it wouldn't be the person who got to the probe but Captain Steele who got the cash.  What better way to fuck with Max then use his heir as a pawn to earn Vic's own heir his/her rightful fortune?

 

[Xeivous]

I'm liking the idea of a Captain Steele victory turning out to be a revenge plot for the late Vic. Max can't touch the company through his kid like he probably planned on doing and said kid is likely to reject him in favor of warming their cousin's bed.


And if the plot isn't that complicated, at least my captain will have her revenge for the incredibly probable tail-pulling that her cuz inflicted on her when they were kids.

 

[shadefalcon]

Even if we don't get wincest, I want the Rival to be a part of the ending and the resolution to the story in a positive way. I believe in dynamic characters and I believe in redemption, and some small part of me even thinks Vic would have been clever enough to expect something like what Jack/Jill did. If the search for the probes is supposed to make the PC fit to run SteeleTech (because we all know it's not just a treasure hunt, there's personal growth involved), then why can't the journey help the Rival change and mature as well?


To me, that would be awesome. One last "fuck you" from Vic to his two-timing snake of a brother that's apparently proven to be beyond saving. Turning Max's kid into someone halfway decent. 


Maybe I'm overly romantic, I dunno.

Makes me think back to the last message of Victor:

Keep an eye on your Uncle Max and his spawn: they’ll try to worm their way into your inheritance if you aren’t careful. Just try not to hate them, especially the kids. You’d be pretty messed up if your daddy was a petty, scheming, back-stabbing bastard, too. 

Since I read that message (took me a while before I actually knew I could read messages...Victor predicts almost everything doesn´t he?) I´ve been slightly more forgiving of the rival (I never really hated her anyway). He/She might be pretty annoying at times, but I´m sure there´s a reason behind it. Perhaps some underlying pressure from his/her father, I don´t know, but I´m looking forward to see some character progression

 

[Amadis]

At least the rival isn't poaching our claims.  My conspiracy theory is that Victor hadn't overlooked this.  (he did mention that the rival might come after the PC in the email).  It would be so precious if the Rival gets to the final probe first but, surprise surprise, it wouldn't be the person who got to the probe but Captain Steele who got the cash.  What better way to fuck with Max then use his heir as a pawn to earn Vic's own heir his/her rightful fortune?

I wonder if he coded the final probe to respond to both the PC's nanites and genetics, especially since he doesn't let you go without them.


Also because it's now canon that the PC can be an android.

 

[Xeivous]

I wonder if he coded the final probe to respond to both the PC's nanites and genetics, especially since he doesn't let you go without them.


Also because it's now canon that the PC can be an android.

The nanites are for your own protection. You don't let your kid ride a bike without a helmet. You make sure they get sex ed. And if you've got the cash, you protect them from any genetic predispositions to various ailments with genetic tailoring and custom order some nanites to protect them from a probably genetically predisposed urge to experiment with transformatives and all the alien biological material they are bound to interact with in the inheritance quest you've set up for them.

 

[Savin]

Also because it's now canon that the PC can be an android.

No its not.

 

[SorenMageofMareth]

No its not.

Yeah.  N-chans back claim. They aren't canon just like those weird monsters you could get in CoC arent. 


Though on the matter of the Cousin,  Fuck him. and not in the fun way.  Dude had a gunship shoot at me, a gunship. On the first planet where that kind of military ordinance will pop anything you can have like a a soap bubble.   He's also already rich.  What do he need my stuff for? Is it becuase rich people becoming night immortal means that kids have to wait forever and a day to get an inheritance or go stake a claim while thier still living sires can create more and more and more competition for ever till the point they can fill the enitrety of a megacorps administration with their direct progeny?

 

[Xeivous]

Yeah.  N-chans back claim. They aren't canon just like those weird monsters you could get in CoC arent. 


Though on the matter of the Cousin,  Fuck him. and not in the fun way.  Dude had a gunship shoot at me, a gunship. On the first planet where that kind of military ordinance will pop anything you can have like a a soap bubble.   He's also already rich.  What do he need my stuff for? Is it becuase rich people becoming night immortal means that kids have to wait forever and a day to get an inheritance or go stake a claim while thier still living sires can create more and more and more competition for ever till the point they can fill the enitrety of a megacorps administration with their direct progeny?

Uncle Max, and by extension the Rival, are far less less rich than Vic. Their wealth came in large part due to legal dickery on some of Vic's claims, but he still ended up with the lion's share and had his company to further grow the wealth. Also Max probably did his best to make your cousin hate you because he had a beef with Vic for whatever reason.

 

[Etis]

Though on the matter of the Cousin,  Fuck him. and not in the fun way.  Dude had a gunship shoot at me, a gunship. On the first planet where that kind of military ordinance will pop anything you can have like a a soap bubble.

Well, he definitely deserves some hard fuck, but he didn't shoot at you - just near enough to drive you away from Dane. Actually, that's he who should have more hard feelings about it - at that state he is in worse state than you already. And in a game where you can shoot someone point blank using anti-matériel rifle without serious consequences...

 

[Zavos]

Maybe we can poach Dane's contract?  I'm sure he would find a proper Steele to be a more agreeable employer.

 

[Ormael]

Maybe we can poach Dane's contract?  I'm sure he would find a proper Steele to be a more agreeable employer.

Well if you want poach him it just matter of wait for next one or two MQ planets. Hints of what will come are already at Myrellion rival encounter.

 

[Xeivous]

From what I recall, Dane is supposed to turn up on Uveto after having been fired.


Do hope we can become bros with him.

 

[SorenMageofMareth]

Well, he definitely deserves some hard fuck, but he didn't shoot at you - just near enough to drive you away from Dane. Actually, that's he who should have more hard feelings about it - at that state he is in worse state than you already. And in a game where you can shoot someone point blank using anti-matériel rifle without serious consequences...

Surpressing Fire is still gunfire and thus deadly. He isn't and exalt or super man or someother hyper competent.  And he didn't hit you with a knockout gas bomb or a galoatian cannon,. 


And it was in a cutscene and not a fight. Cutscenes mean more than mechanics. It's how Juggernaut is crashing even if you biowhipped him good and ho amara fael always get plasmad. 

 

[Zavos]

Surpressing Fire is still gunfire and thus deadly. He isn't and exalt or super man or someother hyper competent.  And he didn't hit you with a knockout gas bomb or a galoatian cannon,.

Taking no damage from deadly weapons is one of the great video game parasoes.


Its right up there with skimpy female armor providing as much protection as their prodish masculine counterparts. 

 

[SorenMageofMareth]

Taking no damage from deadly weapons is one of the great video game parasoes.


Its right up there with skimpy female armor providing as much protection as their prodish masculine counterparts. 

And it's not in effect with pretty much anything that has story around it. See Saendra's metal arm, cyborg ant, scared watch woman, burt the metal dicked, and etc. 

 

[Skiren]

I'm very curious what is going to happen to the rival, because she(calling her she) from what I understand is no longer a threat? I haven't finished the stuff yet, I just read it somewhere, but apparently she herself FAILED to get the Myrellion probe, right? like BADLY failed? meaning that both she AND Dane are weaker than you at that point?(it's NOT like the Pokemon rival, where she'd be stronger like you are) so unless she gets a super equipment upgrade, or super mercenary upgrade, she'd never make it to "late game" like you will. So does that mean you'll end up dealing with the rival prior to the actual end of the game, with some other bigger things coming into play towards the end? instead of her?

Also, I will say that I'm on the "I WANT the rival" boat, which I hope there's a decent amount of options regarding that when(I HOPE "when") it comes up, because while some want to kill the rival, and others may want to "violate" and discard her, I and I think a lot of others want more from her, like letting her be your companion(or forcing her to be) romantic or otherwise, or you being hers(though in that case I'm not sure if that'd end the game, or if the game would still play normally, but like you're on her ship). And I am certain that the rival does not hate you or want you dead, nothing about how she treats you makes me think "she treats everyone else nicer than this", and if she did want you dead, she COULD have killed you in the beginning of the game, so it's obviously something she doesn't "want", despite the fact that it'd make things easier for her.
(topic is a lil old, but better to comment on it than make a new one, I figure)

 

[Ormael]

At first planet rival said s/he not wanna waist it weapon energy cells in fight with PC so sent Dane. On Tarkus it was merely fight who can throw more money as SHenka or who got better relation with her to get probe. At Myrellion we only seen s/he was already captured so we got no idea how it exaclty happen aside story bits we heard in scene feore or after fight with queen guard+queen tavira. And after Tarkus our rival already put bug on our ship or other way keep tracking our PC movements. So I think still we not had REAL showdown with rival and it may still mean s/e is strong enought to be rival for 1-2 more MQ planets.