Pretty much this. Something like that would be a nice addition to it. I know the nuking thing is a little to harsh but it was just a suggestion. Re-engineering sounds great!
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Pretty much this. Something like that would be a nice addition to it. I know the nuking thing is a little to harsh but it was just a suggestion. Re-engineering sounds great!
Well, in some borderline cases of people not reading thoroughly or thinking too deep into the content for reasons other than "it's just porn", like I did during my very first playthrough, they can be snapped out of it by a well placed and in-universe extreme content locking like that.
I have to agree with your other points, though that does bring another question, for the sake of clarification: do you think that having any kind of non Bad End failure states for high-stakes conflicts Captain Steele can engage in is an inherently bad idea? That they can't be explored properly and made impactful, because game's priorities lie elsewhere?
There is always good old mind control. Comrade Yuri knew where it's at.
Not necessarily, since a good chunk of her troubles has to do with the fact that she hadn't been ready to live in the society outside of NT and got screwed over. That would have still been the case if she were to just leave NT instead of having to smuggle herself. Another sizable chunk of Reaha's character is tied to the fact that she can't conclusively decide if she wish to be Treated or not.
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Option for Steele to become New Texas governor and remove obligatory treatment when?
We´re probably gonna have these debates for a long time. Cause New Texans aren´t gonna change their ways for the foreseeable future. For all I know Steele jr. might be able to slightly affect New Texas by f. ex. getting a new governor in seat or changing the treatment or something. But any major quest line is far off in the future, if there ever is gonna be one. So we´re probably doomed to have new discussions pop up every now and then.
And nuking is bad btw. Good kids shouldn´t do that. (They shouldn´t break the heart of Bess/Ben either, but it´s still an option...)
I feel sorry for Reaha and I´m really looking forward to her cure path.
For her treatment path on the other hand, I really hope that Reaha in a new amazonian form will get to give the people that had her be treated some piece of her mind.
I don't think there's anything left of her mind to give them a piece of, quite frankly.
Unless Savin has changed his mind, she´ll get a rare variant of the treatment, turning her into an amazon. That variant doesn´t really make you into a ditz, in contrast it can make the girl a lot more dominant. From having one of my characters take the treatment I got the impression that you slowly gained personality traits similar to Ramis.
I don't mind high-stakes choices, like the upcoming Red vs. Gold resolution. I would like Steele to have moments like Commander Shepard does, where the player ponders whether to sacrifice the Destiny Ascension in concentrate everything on stopping the Reapers - or whether he wants to absolutely bathe in blue lesbian pussy later. Such decisions could be made interesting and impactful, if the author thought them through (although I should be clear about this - Bioware didn't). They could enable more interesting and flavourful porn. Failure states, that aren't sexy sort-ofs like getting infested with tail genitals or taking the Treatment? Not really, no.
This has come up a few times, and I have the same problem with it as "Let the nyrea take over lol". I mean - all of us here, we like the idea of a planet of amazons and traps, because they give us a boner/wide on, right? Better than loads of stinky old bull men, amirite fellers! But you only have to engage your higher thinking a little bit and then listen to Zephyr, and read the cowmazon TF texts, to realise she's a far worse demagogue-in-waiting than Big T. Reversing the genders wouldn't change the basic problem with NT.
Ramis likes a man in charge, whilst my reading of the cowmazon TF was all rough femdom, all the time.
She´s a bit different in that matter, I really liked that part of her btw
. That´s why I said similar. But with the faux cow fascination (girly boys) I really got this Ramis vibe from the treatment.
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I have to agree, I really couldn't care less if everything's reversed, because it's not the problem I have with the fetishes on offer there :/
The blurbs that accompanied the Amazon Treatment really made me wonder how much of Zephyr's attitude and character flaws are Treatment-induced. When I read through them, it really felt like the urge to be a bossy bitch is forced upon amazons the same way the urge to submit and serve is forced upon bimbos.
Then again, PC also gets the most extreme version of mental changes from the standard versions of Treatment out of every character shown, so maybe Zeph always had that in her.
She´s a bit different in that matter, I really liked that part of her btw
I would like NS to correct me on that if I'm wrong, but she seems to just tolerate girly boys as a passable lay in the absence of manly men. Or maybe she does have little bit of a thing for femboys and just doesn't want to admit it/give in to that fetish for some reason
Her treatment of them is really nice, but that's because she is just a pretty nice gal overall, under all that gruffness and muscle. She won't degrade them just because they are the way the are, or because she doesn't find them particularly sexy, which for me is a major bonus in comparison to the bulk of dedicated trap content.
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Different is not always better. Quality of life for New Texans would be significantly worse under Zephyr and her ideals than it is right now, without actually changing anything about the mass chemical lobotomization of an entire planet's populace.
It's also one of those ideas that if enacted would immediately lock out almost all of a planet's content, making it worthless.
Yeah, pretty sure it's all joined up. Zephyr cannot help being a permanently frustrated ultra-bitch anymore than Amma or Ellie can help being who they are.
Delicate balancing act this, because it's almost never a good idea to tell the PC they're a second prize (although it plays into the trope of femboys being used for everyone's fun and enjoyment). So Ramis has her thing where if you're a reasonably hung and attentive sissy she genuinely wants more of you. The whole encounter's also secondarily supposed to be an insight into kaithrit relationships - so because she's a big female she acts chauvinistically and protectively towards you.
I'm going to write a forced PC-Treatment scene just to spite some of you.
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Thank you all for being a hilarious bunch of weirdos (I mean that in a good way)! <3 y'all
Searched up Badgers natural enemies. They don't really have that many, but I found a couple of animals which tends to eat badgers, given the opportunity. My favourite was the cougar...
Write us a cougar cougar please...
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Eh, Ramis is close enough. Just get her to punch Badger a bunch.
Heh isn't anything with huge enough mouth to gulp badger in one go it natural enemy too? Totaly not like we after all in space so why keep our mind flow to simple ways. Here even flwer could be somethng that eating badgers.
Plus...I think I would still wait more on Misty work than saleh (also not like he would write it anytime soon anyway). Well good we stopped talk how to reduce explorable areas ingame at least with this arqument who got bigger balls/e-pen/aspiration/etc.
Plus...I think I would still wait more on Misty work than saleh (also not like he would write it anytime soon anyway). Well good we stopped talk how to reduce explorable areas ingame at least with this arqument who got bigger balls/e-pen/aspiration/etc.
Not if it is a Honey Badger no sane predator is going to bother one of those.
...good thing that Dr. Badger is modeled after European Badgers.
This and several other quotes I particularly agreed with. The people on the planet were raised in this setting, so how is that a valid reason to exterminate them all. (Just like how people feel that killing off the red / gold ants in Myrellion is a good / bad reason).
If you hate it so much WHY offer to kill everyone off, why don't you try to CHANGE the system that you dislike. Its just like Myrellion, its content that has a LOT of people up in arms about. Because they feel the need to try and FORCE (IE: Rape someones mind) their own beliefs on an entire society, not just a few individuals but potentially MILLIONS of people. That's a rather uniquely fucked up mind set. I wont go so far as to say that it reminds me of Nazi Germany, any communist country, America, Any Islam country.... But you know, shoes and fitting and all that shit. If people were really so open minded, then they would understand that to BE open minded you have to honestly accept other peoples views, without allowing your own passion to taint what you see.
I personally can't understand why people are willing to get up in arms about a GAME.... I mean seriously it isn't real, so you dislike a certain perspective, so what. Get over it. I dislike dominant females, I do not think its right. But I don't belittle them, or the men that want it in their lives, because it ISNT my life. I do not understand gay men, men are fugly.... But hell as long as they leave my butt alone I got no complaints. All everyone needs to remember is that NO ONE is actually getting hurt, and sometimes a fetish or fantasy is just a way to release a dark thing inside without it actually doing harm to other.
There are things wrong on NT, so I avoid it. Not because it causes rage or hate. But because I have no interest in bimbo's (like I dislike dr badger), or cow mod's, or girls with no standards other than how many times can I fukk them.
As for the whole mind control aspect, whats different between someone who uses a drug to change someones mind, and someone whos willing to go in and force their beliefs on someone who thinks differently than they do......
Civilized discussion, that's all find and dandy. But come on now, chill with the double standards.
Sorry to go all philosophical and shit. Its just my few pennies worth of opinion. Enjoy, or don't. Your call.
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Be that as it may, better to write it than act upon it. Sure New Texas is a dystopian nightmare, but it's a well written one that can be completely avoided.
As I meantioned before it's spaaaaaaaace so not all if any species follows rules on those cousins of their that aren't living in sci-fi setting but more realistic or fantasy ones. And seems for Dr. Badger natural enemy is...asexual alien
But if it was indessd Honey Badger that it would be interesting to see how this insane enough predator would be to bother them.
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Uhh ok?
Not sure if that was what my argument was about, you have every right to argue about whats wrong with it and why it shouldn't exist, I admire how passionate you can get about it (even if ultimately it's probably not the healthiest thing to do) .
Perhaps as you say, it is unreasonable for people to complain (seeing as it happens every month)about offensive content being offensive . Or perhaps it's not unreasonable with the rest of TiTS being hidden horror
I'm sure this makes me cynical (or maybe even a sociopath) but I look at Nt and say to myself yep that's dystopian and all that and but I don't have any emotions about it and (although I'm doing a bad job of it now)normally stay out of discussions about the content.
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Ah right. Well I think we've reached a point where people are complaining about those who are complaining about people complaining about NT.
As the saying goes "It's Turtles all the way down".
*Reads wikipedia article
And here I thought Terry Pratchett pulled the disk world supported by 4 elephants standing on a giant turtle, out of nothing. Not even disappointed, the disk world universe he created is still pretty brilliant (and wacky).
The delicacy is in balancing allowances for the player to affect the game world against simply giving people free license to enforce their will on the game world. We shouldn't, as the player, get the ability to do things like nuke New Texas just because we don't like it or enforce radical social change to fit the One True Vision of how people are supposed to live. That sort of weird cultural imperialist fantasy would go against the spirit of exploring new worlds and finding interesting and sexy things and turn it into some sort of anti-Star Trek Conquistador fantasy where the goal is to enlighten all the savages and steal all their resources to buy and install a giant dick on the underside of our spaceship.
What I'm saying here is that certain types of impactful choices are not the sort of fun the game's really about and, just from a lore perspective, it's kind of silly for the PC to get to decide the ultimate fate of every alien world they set foot on. I agree completely that when they do happen they should be thoughtful and a present a fun new opportunity rather than simply allowing the player to choose A or B when it's not really going to matter either way. Choices should mean something if they're there and there should be a logical reason for even presenting it to the player character in the first place.
To each their own, that was kinda the point I was trying to make there man. But trust me, I'm not attacking you for your beliefs, or anything.
You know forcing beliefs on other people and shit. We get that you dislike it, violently even. But dude none of us (probably) have ever, or will ever do that. Me personally I fantasize about things I will never do, because it gives me an outlet for A: The over active imagination that I have, and B: Because its a way to avoid hurting others or doing some seriously fukked up things to someone else. And lastly, because TO ME (and me only) I try very hard to see things from others perspectives, because I feel that its just a hell of a lot more important to understand other people, than say that their just wrong because their different.
Do I think that the treatment is wrong, hell yeah. Would I actively attempt to destroy it in RL.... Uhhh yeah with extreme prejudice. But do I think its ok to destroy an entire culture that disagrees with what I belief... Naw not even a little. Because that goes drastically against what I was taught is acceptable.
But anyways, I was just passing on my feelings about it and get what your saying. I don't actually care about NT enough to get annoyed at the content, but I have things that annoy the shit outta me a LOT worse than what you have vented here. So trust me I am not judging you, or saying that you SHOULDNT be passionate bout what you feel.
LOL And its nice to see that you can see the bad sides in yourself, most people just look in the mirror and go yeah me perfect.... ))) Anyways I gave my PoV, and all that. So have a good day, or at least as good as it can be now. )))