Your gripes with CoC II

[Bobonga]

Song of Storms, Primal Scar, and Celestial Smite are all recharge powers, meaning they can not be used concurrently with Arc Cannon and Crackle Powder. Also, Celestial Smite and Primal Scar are level 6, which just factors back into how it takes longer to reach its normal state than Grease+Fireball. Oh, also, just ran a test on Celestial Smite theoretically stunning enemies impacted by Crackle Powder.

I understand and agree with all your points. My thought was to drop crackle powder and Arc Cannon completly. Instead using Primal scar for the 3 turn debuff, Celestial Smite and Grand finale. Or song of storms.

This was meant for a lvl 6 build and it is, indeed, not feasable for a playthrough build, unless you power level in the forest. I found that aoes arent that good later on. This is why I opted for purely single hits. I rather have 2 enemies dead and 3 alive, instead of 5 enemies half dead and no aoe's left.

The leananstone is a decent enough aoe item, but it is an item, meaning it can only be used by the champ. CP and AC have the same cooldown, so there's never really a time where you'll use a Leananstone over an AC if using with CP, unless you just don't have the Arc Cannon. It can be a stop-gap of sorts until you reach the Arc Cannon, I guess, though at 80 electrum for a single one, it's a bit pricey for the early game too.

The idea was to use the Leanenstone as a permanent substitue for arc cannon. For the situations when multiple enemies are low on health, but no aoe's are availabe. Basically an okayish aoe that doesn't cost a power slot. Early game money can be very tight, but during mid to endgame money shouldn't pose a problem at all.

 

[Bobonga]

And you can tell by the text that the stun attempts to proc: If the stun would not have actually gone off, I don't believe it would have said anything.

Did a quick test myself with primal scar and celestial smite. CS does stun. Tested on a wraith chimera, which is neutral against holy and storm.

 

[wery12345]

Is it a gripe to say im sad the upgraded imps dont give me 4k electrum anymore? 1600 Is much more reasonable but I liked the ludicrous amount of 4k.

 

[mikethor007]

Is it a gripe to say im sad the upgraded imps dont give me 4k electrum anymore? 1600 Is much more reasonable but I liked the ludicrous amount of 4k.

That's in line with value the un-upgraded ones had, IIRC. Using the "money ring".

I see that the old encounter was nerfed to 880 EC, using the ring.

Not that much worth grinding those encounters for money anymore.

 

[wery12345]

Yeah, I've had the ring on since Kohaku gave it to me, foolish Kinu not understanding its power. But it is more inline to what it should be at this point in the game, 4K per fight(with the ring) was a bit fucking ridiculous.

 

[mikethor007]

Yeah, I've had the ring on since Kohaku gave it to me, foolish Kinu not understanding its power. But it is more inline to what it should be at this point in the game, 4K per fight(with the ring) was a bit fucking ridiculous.

Well, if the devs intend for us to have to grind a bunch of fights in UM to be able to afford a single of Nash's TF items...then, yeah.

 

[Wint3rRyd3r]

Well, if the devs intend for us to have to grind a bunch of fights in UM to be able to afford a single of Nash's TF items...then, yeah.

Speaking of, what do Nash's items do that warrants that price tag?

 

[mikethor007]

Speaking of, what do Nash's items do that warrants that price tag?

Corrupted transformations not available anywhere else.

 

[Wint3rRyd3r]

Corrupted transformations not avalable anywhere else.

Kinda suspicious and probably working with a demon then.

 

[wery12345]

Its just corrupted TFs of existing ones, not really worth it.

 

[mikethor007]

Kinda suspicious and probably working with a demon then.

Well, the city has already been infiltrated...

 

[Wint3rRyd3r]

Well, the city has already been infiltrated...

If by "infiltrated" you mean "Kas has found the one place where keeping her massive horsecock won't immediately compromise one of her flimsy disguises" then yeah. Because let's be honest, all the other fucky wucky demon stuff is second to playing the xxx rated version of "Where's Waldo" with Kasyrra.

 

[mikethor007]

"Where's Waldo"

Still say it's Calise.

 

[Prent]

Still say it's Calise.

Congrats, you found Waldo

 

[wery12345]

Not gonna lie kinda dont like how the bats are a 3 sided coin flip.

 

[mikethor007]

Not gonna lie kinda dont like how the bats are a 3 sided coin flip.

Two sided right now. Victory sex for Nocturna isn't in yet, IIRC.

 

[wery12345]

Ah, still a bit weird its one of the only coin flip I know of.

 

[mikethor007]

Ah, still a bit weird its one of the only coin flip I know of.

The other being the kitsune encounter in the frostwood, where the enemy party is randomized?

 

[wery12345]

The other being the kitsune encounter in the frostwood, where the enemy party is randomized?

The ecounter yes, but you still choose whom feeds.

 

[Skylinegtr34]

My gripe is that certain tfs will stop working, like it would say that it’s a dud

 

[Burnerbro]

My gripe is that certain tfs will stop working, like it would say that it’s a dud

If the TF's code is working correctly, this will only happen when there is no transformation left your Champ is qualified for while using this item (or its particular alchemically refined version). Otherwise there is a minimum number of transformations that will always occur, and in most cases the game rolls a random chance to see if the number will be higher in that particular instance.

The real issue is the opaque nature of the list of potential transformations each item can grant, as well as any conditions required. Having a list of both available inside of the game's Codex will help quite a bit with the frustrations the system might cause. Maybe limiting it to the TFs you have tried to encourage experimentation; or making the player buy that information in the form of alchemy cook books.

 

[Skylinegtr34]

If the TF's code is working correctly, this will only happen when there is no transformation left your Champ is qualified for while using this item (or its particular alchemically refined version). Otherwise there is a minimum number of transformations that will always occur, and in most cases the game rolls a random chance to see if the number will be higher in that particular instance.

The real issue is the opaque nature of the list of potential transformations each item can grant, as well as any conditions required. Having a list of both available inside of the game's Codex will help quite a bit with the frustrations the system might cause. Maybe limiting it to the TFs you have tried to encourage experimentation; or making the player buy that information in the form of alchemy cook books.

What I meant was if you increase your dick size to 15 inches through that tanuki, and then use a blue egg refined with turgid mushroom, you could only use it once or twice before it stops working, like the max knot size is 7.5 inches, then when you try to increase it, it says something about it being a dud

 

[mikethor007]

What I meant was if you increase your dick size to 15 inches through that tanuki, and then use a blue egg refined with turgid mushroom, you could only use it once or twice before it stops working, like the max knot size is 7.5 inches, then when you try to increase it, it says something about it being a dud

Blue egg refined with a turgid mushroom only affects dicks by giving one if not present, and growing a dick up to the limit of 18". Beyond that it does nothing.

And it does not affect knots, other than influencing them indirectly because their size is calculated based on the dick's thickness, which I think is calculated from its length and a thickness ratio.

 

[Skylinegtr34]

Blue egg refined with a turgid mushroom only affects dicks by giving one if not present, and growing a dick up to the limit of 18". Beyond that it does nothing.

And it does not affect knots, other than influencing them indirectly because their size is calculated based on the dick's thickness, which I think is calculated from its length and a thickness ratio.

With the blue egg, that’s what I mean, it just stops working, I think I was able to increase the knot size separately without increasing the dick size before, my point is that theres a limit on the knot size

 

[Animalistic]

There is a limit to everything! Be it height, cup or dick size. If there was non, we would enter TITS teritory where authors would need to account for hyper stuff in every scene. Better have a hard limit which every writer can follow.

 

[Tide Hunter]

There is a limit to everything! Be it height, cup or dick size. If there was non, we would enter TITS teritory where authors would need to account for hyper stuff in every scene. Better have a hard limit which every writer can foolw.

Even in TiTS, there's essentially a limit to everything, it's just that there's a few items which just completely ignore the limits. These, to my knowledge, are essentially just Dicksprout and Throbb (Ds always increases length, but by very little, and Throbb decreases its growth after 20 inches, plus has a bad end at 30 inches that can be avoided but will not be if you abuse it) for cocks, or Boobswell and Sneezing Tits for breasts (also goo I guess), Thicc&Shake overdose for hips and ass, Throbb (again) and some Vanae Huntress sex scenes for balls, and then Futazona overdoses for literally every single one of those features. Also height's floor of 4' can be broken by Ruskvel and Goblinola, though that's just inverse hyper, y'know? Those are primarily sex transformatives, and the overwhelming majority of transformatives do have hard caps on what they can do in every category. The limits are only broken by these few transformatives, and you can just say "no, that won't fit" and restrict the scene if they do get broken. That said, a don't think that that should mean slashing the limits from CoC2, since it's nice to have restrictions. Without them, every character I make has breasts and asses larger than a 3 story house and a cock longer than a train, and that gets kinda boring after too many of them.

 

[Skylinegtr34]

There is a limit to everything! Be it height, cup or dick size. If there was non, we would enter TITS teritory where authors would need to account for hyper stuff in every scene. Better have a hard limit which every writer can follow.

It feels like that limit is small, since there’s multiple ways of increasing something, and each one increases it in different increments which makes it take more time to get the right result you want, and I feel like the knot size should be separate like in tits with its own limit

 

[WolframL]

Considering that the tooltip says that you want to ask Keros for some 'personal time', what exactly did you expect that meant if not sex?

Now yes, it could perhaps do with a 'back out' option but since you did just summon a god he'd probably be unhappy at having his time wasted.

 

[Wint3rRyd3r]

unless it's a case of cultural ignorance on the champ's part and it's customary for kitsune to petition Keros for his D.

I don't know about cultural ignorance but, given who's attending the shrine, I wouldn't be shocked if someone had done that before. Almost makes me feel bad for him. Only just "almost" though.

 

[wery12345]

Yeah the tooltip explains what its for pretty well.