Your Gripes With CoC2

Falken_Moonlight

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Floof land
how DARE you suggest that The Great Tobs change how he writes the floofs
Lol, honestly I don’t care much about the Kitsune that don’t interact with us, I just need the genuine affection from Kiyoko, Kinu and the other floofs that have intimacy with us (and our unnamed children too) also is that serious or that’s just exaggeration?
 

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My "favorite" part was when i erroneously thought that giving my soul to the kitsune god so i could get closer to my Wife, my "daughter" and their "culture", willingly sacrificing my soul of my own volition, becoming a kitsune to be closer to them, attempting to take care for what is now my people, vowing to defend them and my family from demons and you know... TRYING TO CARE?
i thought it showed i cared
i thought it meant something good
i thought something nice would come from it
i thought it meant something...
now? i dont even care about them anymore
im just bitter

the last time i had fun with a kitsune was Tetsuya and its because Jstar wrote him
 

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Hell, the Champ might even get NTRed as Kiyoko gets stolen away!
This is what Bubble has been working on secretly for all this time, the forbidden Takahiro expansion.
 
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Tide Hunter

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This is what Bubble has been working on secretly for all this time, the forbidden Takahiro expansion.
I think I remember it being mentioned that there were actually plans to have a scene where Takahiro fucks Kiyoko, but it ended up not being made for some reason. Not sure what the reason was, though.
 

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I guess best way to make Kitsune fun again would be for someone to write content outside the Den. Although I'm not even sure if that's allowed?
 

Falken_Moonlight

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I think I remember it being mentioned that there were actually plans to have a scene where Takahiro fucks Kiyoko, but it ended up not being made for some reason. Not sure what the reason was, though.
I can’t believe that I am saying this but somehow, I’d prefer Berwyn or any party member over Takahiro of all people (not including arona though)
 

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I guess best way to make Kitsune fun again would be for someone to write content outside the Den. Although I'm not even sure if that's allowed?
There are Kitsune outside the den. Heck you meet some in the Old Forest. So it's not restricted to that location.
Maybe what you want is them to be written by other people? Because while we do have that, it's been so long since anything regarding the non-Tobs kitsune has been said and I'm not in the chats to know. So hm.
 

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I think I remember it being mentioned that there were actually plans to have a scene where Takahiro fucks Kiyoko, but it ended up not being made for some reason. Not sure what the reason was, though.
Went back and found the comment from BubbleLord (Takahiro's author) that mentions why he and tobs decided not to do the Takahiro scene.
 

Tamsee

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Maybe what you want is them to be written by other people? Because while we do have that, it's been so long since anything regarding the non-Tobs kitsune has been said and I'm not in the chats to know. So hm.
Most likely not by Tobs, but also away from the Den. I know, so far it is the only Kitsune settlement. But I also feel that any content written for within the Den would need to stick to some extent to the existent framework... which isn't great. Which is why I'm unsure such writing would be allowed into the game.
 
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Side note:
Anyone has any idea as to why Tobs' the way he is?
He wanted to write a novel very badly, but the evil Savin stole the only key to his chastity cage and forced him to work on an RPG game. Except he had a very poor understanding of what an RPG was and how to write an interactive narrative for a game. So he takes his frustration out on us. If he could jerk off, he'd have an post nut realization and things would get better, but alas, he can't.
 
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Furiae

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This is just reminding me how much I hate Yusra. Now, I love catboys! I'm practically catboy-sexual! 99% of my PCs are catboys. I'm writing two right now, and part of the reason I started is that the only on-demand catboy sex in the game is an unlikable, insufferable, unsexy windbag who sounds nothing like the "brat" the narration ascribes to him. (I also love cock cages, and Yusra ruins that, too. )

Appropriately, it feels like the porn equivalent of when a cat brings you a dismembered rat carcass because it thinks you'll be into it.

(not including arona though)
I don't get why Arona gets hate, she's one of my favorite characters. Wave fuckin' for life!
 

Falken_Moonlight

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I don't get why Arona gets hate, she's one of my favorite characters. Wave fuckin' for life!
I don’t hate her, Far from it actually (I could definitely get a small list of those I hate though)
The context of why I singled her out would be of who I would accept having sex with Kiyoko instead of Takahiro (in which she is also a much more preferable choice than Taka in my opinion but I wouldn’t want to sic her on Kiyoko either way.)

also she’s funny, can get serious when she needs to and is quite fleshed out as a character.
Vivi is my lowest rated companion for example, but that is just because she hasn’t developed any kind of story yet.
 

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This is just reminding me how much I hate Yusra. Now, I love catboys! I'm practically catboy-sexual! 99% of my PCs are catboys. I'm writing two right now, and part of the reason I started is that the only on-demand catboy sex in the game is an unlikable, insufferable, unsexy windbag who sounds nothing like the "brat" the narration ascribes to him. (I also love cock cages, and Yusra ruins that, too. )
yep, had the exact same experience
i tried to enjoy him but couldnt find a way to like him, the walls of text sure didnt help and his conversations felt stiff and unatural
I don't get why Arona gets hate, she's one of my favorite characters. Wave fuckin' for life!
Dom Arona is my guess why
Arona is either being a cuddly subby or a rough dom that treats the champ like a object, and i know thats for someone kink but it dont think makes her look good
 

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Oof, Domrona is rough.
No pun intended.

I won't judge those who are into it, BUT

Side:
Not a gripe, just something possitive:
I really like the UI.
Everything just feels in the right place.
Actually, the UI is very important to me
Hell, TiTS' change in it from the Flah version to the JS one made me drop the game, picked it up again recently, but it's not the same anymore.

Getting off track, bottom line:
Great UI, Savin!
 

Furiae

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yep, had the exact same experience
i tried to enjoy him but couldnt find a way to like him, the walls of text sure didnt help and his conversations felt stiff and unatural
Right?!?
A Mallachite paladin catboy could be so fun and so hot, but between smokin' up in his underwear in the middle of the day, talking shit about girls you know, and pretentiously rambling about theology and sex at you, he's more like an annoying college roommate. I'M TELLING THE RA, YUSRA.

Dom Arona is my guess why
Arona is either being a cuddly subby or a rough dom that treats the champ like a object, and i know thats for someone kink but it dont think makes her look good
Ah, yeah dom Arona was a disappointment for me, too. I was looking for something more playful, I guess. but she's my FAVORITE for reactions during quests. just wish it was easier to get her ghost-killin' set early on, she'd never leave my party then. Speaking of which...

Vivi is my lowest rated companion for example, but that is just because she hasn’t developed any kind of story yet.
I wish Viv WAS VIVI from Final Fantasy IX, still best black mage buddy ever.
It's the cultural baggage of slavery and reaving that I really don't like.
Ooh, yeah, that's fair. that's kinda a shadow over a lot of the game, though.
 

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I wish Viv WAS VIVI from Final Fantasy IX, still best black mage buddy ever.
But do you want to bang Vivi from Final Fantasy IX? Glowing eyes looking up at you from the dark void under his hat as you get it on? Because that would be the expected outcome with his inclusion in CoC2.
 
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But do you want to bang Vivi from Final Fantasy IX? Glowing eyes looking up at you from the dark void under his hat as you get it on? Because that would be the expected outcome with his inclusion in CoC2.
Well everyone has their own preferences. More than half of the players here make their champion oversexual bimbos - slaves to big dicks. Not the fact that they wish (or have the opportunity :p) to experience it in real live, but in game why not.
 

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That's quite an assertion.
My guess is based on the number of bedicked characters, the average size of those dicks, the popularity of those characters, the tendency in new content development and feedback about it on the forum. As well as in general Champ has more opportunity to be a catcher rather than a pitcher.
So yeah... I think it's safe to say that a large number of players create PCs that are really like big dicks.
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Alypia

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My guess is based on the number of bedicked characters, the average size of those dicks, the popularity of those characters, the tendency in new content development and feedback about it on the forum. As well as in general Champ has more opportunity to be a catcher rather than a pitcher.
So yeah... I think it's safe to say that a large number of players create PCs that are really like big dicks.
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There are more female characters without dicks than female and male characters with dicks combined. If you only count characters that you can actually have sex with, the proportion increases in favor of female characters without dicks. Put another way, Champ has far more opportunity to be a pitcher than a catcher. That proportion has not been changing to any significant degree over the last few years. There is a convenient tally located here. (Technically it doesn't account for the fact that, say, Tarandra doesn't pitch, only catch, but it's a reasonable guide to the proportions.)

I would agree that the dicks in this game tend pretty big, and that the characters who have them are often popular, but would also remind you that characters without dicks are also staggeringly popular - Kiyoko, Brienne, Cait, Elthara, Mikoto, Cassia, Atani, Ahmri, and so on. Hard data on player preferences is a few years old, but the most popular companion last time there was a poll was Kiyoko, who doesn't even work as a companion if the PC doesn't pitch.

Also, it's still quite a hop, skip, and a jump from "more than half the people here are [...] slaves to big dicks" and "a large number of players create PCs that are [sic] really like big dicks". You dropped the proportion and omitted the "slaves" part - bearing in mind that much catching content is not subby in the slightest (see e.g. Etheryn or Submissive Arona). You also dropped the reference to bimbos, and despite the lack of hard data I would wager that most players do not play as Bimbo Champ (even though she is the bestest and loveliest of all the beans).
 

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There is a convenient tally located here.
Wow cool thing!

As for my "drops"... I just didn't want to write the same thing twice... Ok ok I've lost, I've been completely and utterly defeated. Broken, I go to the land of shadows.

Eh, I'll probably be back soon for a new shitpost anyway. This is the way.
 
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Returning to the Kitsune just a bit... I think my most hated part of them is just them not changing much at all after you give your soul to their whole collective. The part that nags me is that Keros is very specific in that you are supposed to be part of this greater thing when you become a Kitsune and how everyone's souls are entwined and such...

and yet despite that! You are still treated as a bit of an outsider regardless...Like what do you want from me!? I have tried to do everything... Honestly in my second run-through as a Black mage, I just started (Since I just returned to this) I just refuse to release Kiyoko... Might be shameful a bit... but maybe Tetsuya had a point about cherishing your dreams...
 

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So normally don't like double posting, but I did have another couple of minor Gripes... Mostly on the Wayfort, The Tavern, and Companions...

They are all pretty great overall as an individual thing. My issue first off is that Agni and Kiyoko are separate from the others completely, everyone else can be accessed from the Tavern and easily enjoyed there except for them which is odd, and while Kiyoko can make some sense, given how many kits you may have with her... Agni is a bit of an eyebrow raise and I may have missed it, but I didn't see an explanation outside of "I enjoy being in this temple"

To add to this though, you can access folks like Arona and Ryn despite them having unique position options eventually like Agni and Kiyoko so I am not quite sure why we can't also access them from that menu. Especially since I am pretty sure if they are in your party you can access them in the Companions menu, but not when they are chilling. Why doesn't this apply to Ryn and Arona then? (Not advocating for Ryn and Arona to not be accessible, just confused why Kiyoko and Agni aren't)

I also find it slightly strange to have the Wayfort be a thing you build up and your companions and a few of the guests not go over there as well instead of the tavern, let Gareth have his tavern instead of the love hotel you have turned it into presumably. Poor guy. Also, I do like the Wayfort and pretty much everything attached to it in my two current playthroughs, but I am I suppose hopeful the companions get some content in regards to being in the Wayfort as well. This just may need time and people to write said content.