Your Gripes With CoC2

[IraMorti]

For some reason Cait's dancer silks set has more spellpower than sexiness, even though she doesn't have any powers that scale off spellpower.

In general I feel like a lot of older companion sets could use an update, especially after seeing some sets still using cleave after v0.8 when whirlwind is a thing now. The damage spike for the player from the new level 8 powers completely outclasses companions and so there's no point using them for anything other than supporting a damage-dealing player character.

To be honest I think all companion sets should have 2 power sets - a low level power set and then an upgraded power set when they reach a certain level (depending on the required level for a power, this can vary set to set level 6-8)

 

[HK-47]

It’s a minor gripe, but I feel like the text of the ‘are you sure’ prompt for killing Sandre & Caera should be rewritten, given that Etheryn is the only companion I can actually see taking issue with you doing so.

 

[Ace Hangman]

It’s a minor gripe, but I feel like the text of the ‘are you sure’ prompt for killing Sandre & Caera should be rewritten, given that Etheryn is only companion I can actually see taking issue with you doing so.

Maybe Viviane might have something to add, depending on her circumstances, since it might be a wake-up call or red-flag.

 

[HK-47]

Maybe Viviane might have something to add, depending on her circumstances, since it might be a wake-up call or red-flag.

That’s certainly true. She would be the only other companion I could see doing so, depending on her circumstances as you said.

That said, the whole “You don’t have to do this” blurb coming from even Arona feels awfully OOC. Pretty sure she would be just fine with giving them both the Alissa special.

 

[nwb3]

why dont the marefolk shamans knock up a female pc?

 

[LeDoraggo]

why dont the marefolk shamans knock up a female pc?

Plot armor in the form of a IUD

 

[WireJax]

Maybe it's already been said before, but I actually enjoy the more D&D aspects of the game with skill checks for certain actions, being able to say certain things, out-speeding or overpowering an enemy, that sort of thing. I wouldn't mind if the game could have more of that somewhere along the lines, makes the experience more immersive.

 

[Nino]

Maybe it's already been said before, but I actually enjoy the more D&D aspects of the game with skill checks for certain actions, being able to say certain things, out-speeding or overpowering an enemy, that sort of thing. I wouldn't mind if the game could have more of that somewhere along the lines, makes the experience more immersive.

You would like Tales of Androgyny then, it has a lot of those stat checks for differing outcomes

 

[Savin]

Maybe it's already been said before, but I actually enjoy the more D&D aspects of the game with skill checks for certain actions, being able to say certain things, out-speeding or overpowering an enemy, that sort of thing. I wouldn't mind if the game could have more of that somewhere along the lines, makes the experience more immersive.

Yeah, I love that sort of thing.

Right now we just have the problem of those checks existing (along with Background, Starting Race, Class, etc. checks ALL OVER) but they're kind of invisible to the player when they happen. Sometimes it's blatant in the writing, but I'd say about 90% of checks are blink-and-you-miss-it or otherwise so seamlessly woven into the writing that you don't notice they're happening.

Definitely something we'll be addressing in a big way in future games.

 

[nwb3]

Yeah, I love that sort of thing.

Right now we just have the problem of those checks existing (along with Background, Starting Race, Class, etc. checks ALL OVER) but they're kind of invisible to the player when they happen. Sometimes it's blatant in the writing, but I'd say about 90% of checks are blink-and-you-miss-it or otherwise so seamlessly woven into the writing that you don't notice they're happening.

Definitely something we'll be addressing in a big way in future games.

Make tits 2: electric boobaloo

 

[Ace Hangman]

Make tits 2: electric boobaloo

I thought Mel Brooks bought the story rights and is calling it Spaceballs 2: The Search For More Money.

 

[Savin]

Make tits 2: electric boobaloo

No, that's Fen's series

I was lucky enough to score CoC for one game but I don't intend to work on other folks' IPs again.

 

[PalletTown]

No, that's Fen's series

I was lucky enough to score CoC for one game but I don't intend to work on other folks' IPs again.

Have you seen your own game, Savin? CoC II is very very different from CoC I. The only thing that they really share is some appearance descriptions, some basic gameplay elements, 1 character (We at the forum aren't even sure about that), and CoC II mentions 2 characters from CoC I.

For all intents and purposes, this really is you and your team's game.

 

[LeDoraggo]

I thought Mel Brooks bought the story rights and is calling it Spaceballs 2: The Search For More Money.

Did he? I was hoping he would have made a remake of CoC1 staring Pedro Pascal and Chris Prat

 

[Nino]

Yeah, I love that sort of thing.

Right now we just have the problem of those checks existing (along with Background, Starting Race, Class, etc. checks ALL OVER) but they're kind of invisible to the player when they happen. Sometimes it's blatant in the writing, but I'd say about 90% of checks are blink-and-you-miss-it or otherwise so seamlessly woven into the writing that you don't notice they're happening.

Definitely something we'll be addressing in a big way in future games.

I think it would be a huge improvement in the gameplay if the player could see the skill check either immediately after the button is chosen, or it should be in the tool tip when hovering over the button. Because if the check is shown after the selection then it would just prompt players to save and reload even more before every choice. I believe too many smoke and mirrors, or as you put it: blink and you miss it, dampen the players confidence and awareness of mechanics and potential options/outcomes

 

[Savin]

I think it would be a huge improvement in the gameplay if the player could see the skill check either immediately after the button is chosen, or it should be in the tool tip when hovering over the button. Because if the check is shown after the selection then it would just prompt players to save and reload even more before every choice. I believe too many smoke and mirrors, or as you put it: blink and you miss it, dampen the players confidence and awareness of mechanics and potential options/outcomes

Yeah our intent is to move towards something like this for dialogue options in the future, and use icons to represent whenever your Background/Class/Attributes are unlocking or influencing options:

 

[Gabranth]

Yeah our intent is to move towards something like this for dialogue options in the future, and use icons to represent whenever your Background/Class/Attributes are unlocking or influencing options:

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Aight, I'm sold on this idea.

On the IP subject, I totally agree with Pallet on this matter, CoC2 may share name with CoC, a few references and even a few characters, but other than that, it's your own thing.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again:
Other than really thin ties via the things I said above, they are two completely different things.

 

[Knife-wielding Crab]

Yeah our intent is to move towards something like this for dialogue options in the future, and use icons to represent whenever your Background/Class/Attributes are unlocking or influencing options:

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This would be nice as a writer too. Knowing that the reader will see that the writer put in the effort for background variations and such.

 

[TheIrishOtaku]

Yeah our intent is to move towards something like this for dialogue options in the future, and use icons to represent whenever your Background/Class/Attributes are unlocking or influencing options:

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That's a lot better ngl

 

[Nino]

Love it
It's fun and interesting

 

[Charity]

Yeah our intent is to move towards something like this for dialogue options in the future, and use icons to represent whenever your Background/Class/Attributes are unlocking or influencing options:

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Mb also add some toggle in setting on hidden/condition not met checks.

Like with it being off you can see stat checks and condition you met. With it on you also see things you can't choose, but at least it will help you on different run/save load.

 

[Charity]

No easy way to know how corrupt your Wayfort seen as of now.

If this mechanic aren't scrapped fully - it would be nice to be able to check how corrupt your Wayfort now and how it affect denizens around you.

 

[Tide Hunter]

All of the backgrounds give some different item from each other (though the noble scion gives 300 EC instead of an item if you aren't a charmer, but 300 can get you most things in Hawkethorne), but the Arcanist and Acolyte both give both a wooden rod and +1 willpower.

I would like it if they were also given different items from each other, if only because every other background does that.

 

[Nino]

No easy way to know how corrupt your Wayfort seen as of now.

If this mechanic aren't scrapped fully - it would be nice to be able to check how corrupt your Wayfort now and how it affect denizens around you.

I can't remember which topic he said it in but Savin has said that there is zero "Global corruption approval" or something similar. So yeah, that mechanic you're referring to doesn't exist

 

[Charity]

I can't remember which topic he said it in but Savin has said that there is zero "Global corruption approval" or something similar. So yeah, that mechanic you're referring to doesn't exist

Was it before or after Sav mentioning about Wayfort corruption having impact on some faraway things?
Tho we aren't even know if weapon crate will be used anythere.

 

[Nino]

Was it before or after Sav mentioning about Wayfort corruption having impact on some faraway things?
Tho we aren't even know if weapon crate will be used anythere.

very recently
like within a week or something

 

[Savin]

Yeah there has never been some kind of "Corruption Score" for the Wayfort.

 

[Ultra Chad]

That's a relief. I was afraid that sparing the demons would screw me over in the end.

 

[freezerburn68]

A lot of woman have dicks or option to get a dick, there is never an option to remove a dick from a girl!

 

[Nino]

A lot of woman have dicks or option to get a dick, there is never an option to remove a dick from a girl!

Guess again boiiii

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