Your gripes with CoC II

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HK-47

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The student-teacher fallout I get but I'm not sure that was hinted at, but I'm more inclined to believe you because Komari is fucking evil and Carmela did some shady shit in her past that has her being a recluse.
I mean, Komari straight up uses the Champ as a host body in one of the bad ends, so there’s also that.

IMO, particularly on my White Mage/Paladin champ, there are a whole lot of heretics in the Frostwood that need to be purged.
 
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IMO, particularly on my White Mage/Paladin champ, there are a whole lot of heretics in the Frostwood that need to be purged.
Oh yeah, I realized Oxana wasn't quite right when playing a female Champ and picking the "short" way to get Ghostlight dick. Broad rolled up ready square off, I was like "Oh I thought you were just a weird OC but nah you're a retired villain"
 

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The student-teacher fallout I get but I'm not sure that was hinted at, but I'm more inclined to believe you because Komari is fucking evil and Carmilla did some shady shit in her past that has her being a recluse. So all three having that "three wicked witches" vibe ain't too far off.

Oxana and Carmen were both students of Komari during the early parts of the Godswar, with both of them going bad according to Carmen, herself apparently having done something horribly bad with white magic once upon a time which is why she's sworn herself to pacifism and non-interference since then, while Oxana went all darkest magics, presumably Komari would be a balanced grey mage (though her Bad Ends are hardcore and really only overcome by one of the Orc camp bad ends and a couple involving Tollus, which is saying something). All three also ended up immortal, through different means, with Oxana's version being body-swapping while the other two are "undead" through separate ways.

Of the three I prefer Carmen, and I'm looking forward to her content being expanded upon, even if it'll likely be a very long way off. If she requires cum as sustenance as seems to be indicated via a certain night-time event, hopefully a virile champion will be able to volunteer. Dumping a nut down the pipe of a gothic blonde is exactly the sort of meaningful sacrifice I embrace.

I mean, Komari straight up uses the Champ as a host body in one of the bad ends, so there’s also that.

IMO, particularly on my White Mage/Paladin champ, there are a whole lot of heretics in the Frostwood that need to be purged.

Kill the Mutant, burn the Heretic, purge the Unclean! Suffer not the Xenos to live! Ave Imperator!

(Ehrm, sorry. Though suddenly now my view of Draco-Ev's zeal to retake the Empire has changed dramatically.)
 

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What's a flemeth?
A character from the Dragon Age series.


Kill the Mutant, burn the Heretic, purge the Unclean! Suffer not the Xenos to live! Ave Imperator!

(Ehrm, sorry. Though suddenly now my view of Draco-Ev's zeal to retake the Empire has changed dramatically.)
No, no, don’t apologize. That’s exactly the reaction I was going for ;)
 
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with Oxana's version being body-swapping while the other two are "undead" through separate ways.
Where or when is this mentioned tho, the thing I've realized with this game is that some of the drama and interesting concepts are straight accidents or you assuming too much and seeing the potential that isn't fulfilled or even there. Bad End in novels and games in the hands of good writers can enhance a character by showing us a side of a character you wouldn't normally see but is definitely there in the details or they can just be a joke or just context-sensitive "what if" that doesn't say much about anything.
This game doesn't seem to be sure if it's doing the former or the latter. So I don't want to assume interesting drama is afoot only to get some porn to burn the time.
 
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Of the three I prefer Carmen, and I'm looking forward to her content being expanded upon, even if it'll likely be a very long way off. If she requires cum as sustenance as seems to be indicated via a certain night-time event, hopefully a virile champion will be able to volunteer. Dumping a nut down the pipe of a gothic blonde is exactly the sort of meaningful sacrifice I embrace.
Wait, Carmen is a Cum-pire?
IMO, particularly on my White Mage/Paladin champ, there are a whole lot of heretics in the Frostwood that need to be purged.
Somehow, I don't think you're going to get the chance.
 

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Somehow, I don't think you're going to get the chance.

Oh, I know. That was already pretty obvious with how inconsistent the purge option is with demon NPCs alone.
 

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How do you meet Carmen I only got her in the dream?
She’s the Baroness up at castle in Hawkethorne and Atugia’s former employer. You can meet her when bringing Ryn to the castle, after having sex with Atugia prior to recruiting her, and when she offers to make you Champion of Hawkethorne after completing several quests.
 
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She’s the Baroness up at castle in Hawkethorne and Atugia’s former employer. You can meet her when bringing Ryn to the castle, after having sex with Atugia prior to recruiting her, and when she offers to make you Champion of Hawkethorne after completing several quests.
Make sure to read all the details in this latter part, it's where you can get her comments about Oxana and Komari, and a sort-of explanation for why she's not doing anything to stopping a certain Michael Reverra from all his bald moves. While the initial meeting via bringing Ryn there never left a good impression, this one did on me, even if she deliberately puts herself in a rather pathetic light... which is respectable in itself, for a noble to lower herself to in order to get the help that her people need.
 

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What's a flemeth?

To be more specific, she is an ancient, extremely powerful being that keeps her own existence continuing by adopting/kidnapping/giving birth to mages who she raises as her children and students. When they get strong enough and power hungry enough to go through her Secret Forbidden Books, she beats them down and transfers her soul into their young bodies.
 
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To be more specific, she is an ancient, extremely powerful being that keeps her own existence continuing by adopting/kidnapping/giving birth to mages who she raises as her children and students. When they get strong enough and power hungry enough to go through her Secret Forbidden Books, she beats them down and transfers her soul into their young bodies.

I mean, technically it’s Mythal doing the body snatching, but yes, that.

Suffice to say the similarities between her and Evergreen are striking, the only major difference being that Evergreen is pretty obviously a straight up villain, where as Flemeth’s nature is a bit more ambiguous.
 

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Suffice to say the similarities between her and Evergreen are striking, the only major difference being that Evergreen is pretty obviously a straight up villain, where as Flemeth’s nature is a bit more ambiguous.

Evergreen: Helps you out on first meeting, gives you quests, gives you transformations, many of them for the price of just some smooching, helps you build your Wayfort if you ask, and generally is content to hang around and add to the Tanuki population, making vastly more daughters than she'd ever need for body-swapping purposes even if it was true never really challenges you or threaten you in any way, and rather warns you against Kasyrra and the power of Lethicite - clearly a straight up villain!

Flemeth; Saves your life for her own purposes only, sends you off with one of those daughters ready to lay the groundwork for Flemeth's intents to get the powers of an Old God that predates even her, intends to kill said daughter who is your primary love interest and means of surviving the game without letting someone else die for you, and you probably end up fighting her in some capacity in all three games, and even "kill" her in the process, hints she may be one of the most ancient slave-masters of the world just wishing to get her old strengths back - I mean that's clearly a bit ambiguous, could go either way right, let's give her a chance!

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Evergreen: Helps you out on first meeting, gives you quests, gives you transformations, many of them for the price of just some smooching, helps you build your Wayfort if you ask, and generally is content to hang around and add to the Tanuki population, making vastly more daughters than she'd ever need for body-swapping purposes even if it was true never really challenges you or threaten you in any way, and rather warns you against Kasyrra and the power of Lethicite - clearly a straight up villain!

Flemeth; Saves your life for her own purposes only, sends you off with one of those daughters ready to lay the groundwork for Flemeth's intents to get the powers of an Old God that predates even her, intends to kill said daughter who is your primary love interest and means of surviving the game without letting someone else die for you, and you probably end up fighting her in some capacity in all three games, and even "kill" her in the process, hints she may be one of the most ancient slave-masters of the world just wishing to get her old strengths back - I mean that's clearly a bit ambiguous, could go either way right, let's give her a chance!

;)
Oh, I’m not saying Flemythal isn’t awful, she is, but I meant in the sense that Mythal is body snatching so she can take down the other Evanuris (who are the looming big bads of the series), while Evergreen is body snatching just to extend her own life.
 

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Suffice to say the similarities between her and Evergreen are striking, the only major difference being that Evergreen is pretty obviously a straight up villain, where as Flemeth’s nature is a bit more ambiguous.
yeh, sounds about right, Dragon Age was pretty good
 

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Oh, I’m not saying Flemythal isn’t awful, she is, but I meant in the sense that Mythal is body snatching so she can take down the other Evanuris (who are the looming big bads of the series), while Evergreen is body snatching just to extend her own life.
Here's the thing about Oxana; she keeps to herself, she is helpful to not only the player but other folks if they are willing to parley, she kinda creepy but Dommy energy balances that out. She isn't totally evil but shady shit do be around her. Still hung up on that baby stuff tho, really fucked up.

On the note of babies, am I the only some noticing we're getting no sons?
 
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Ask her about it and she says she uses her magic to only produce daughters.
Not regarding Oxana, she already said she converts her boys into girls, which is still fucked up. I was talking in general, I think there are like three girls that will give us boys canonically; Kiyoko, Rindo...I can't think of anyone else, note I'm talking boys that are either named or shown.
 

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Not regarding Oxana, she already said she converts her boys into girls, which is still fucked up. I was talking in general, I think there are like three girls that will give us boys canonically; Kiyoko, Rindo...I can't think of anyone else, note I'm talking boys that are either named or shown.
Yup, I noticed it too. In regards to kids we can get involved with as a parent (like fluff stuff) there's not really many boys in that equation.
(Edit: Apparently Zo lets us have one, tho I've never done her content so I'm very lacking in knowing how that's going on)
 
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Fairly extensively, in that the game picks from a list of events when you choose to play with him.
 

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Speaking of, I'm so happy that Zhara and her kids have come to roost (literally, ha!) in our Wayfort. Mitra is an adorable precious cinnamon bun and all the scenes of harpy mischief and fluffy scenes with our daughters are great. Plus that beat with Agnimitra was absolutely heartwarming and unexpected. Bugs aside, my only real complaint is that there's no interaction between Mitra and Freja if they both exist in the Wayfort. I kinda hoped there would be. Seeing both my tan-skinned, red-haired, winged daughters getting up to fun and mischief would be great.
 

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Speaking of, I'm so happy that Zhara and her kids have come to roost (literally, ha!) in our Wayfort.
Is there any downside to letting the harpies into the wayfort? Like how some characters cause it to become more corrupt and debauched.
Not on the newest version myself.
 
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