Your gripes with CoC II

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MarcoPolo121

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Y'know, I'm enjoying Kasyrra as an antagonist so far. She definitely feels more interesting and present compared to Lethice who was one of the worst things about the first game. I just wish the cult she was worshipped by was even half as interesting as her. At this point I find Alissa more enjoyable than them.
 
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Y'know, I'm enjoying Kasyrra as an antagonist so far. She definitely feels more interesting and present compared to Lethice who was one of the worst things about the first game. I just wish the cult she was worshipped by was even half as interesting as her. At this point I find Alissa more enjoyable than them.
We have the cult of the fluffy tail, but where's the cult of the futa cock? You'd expect that to be Kasyrra, but it doesn't really reflect that.
Also, there's a suspicious lack of futas among the Kitsune, makes you wonder if they got converted by some other god instead. I don't think it'd be fair for a Kitsune to have their soul be owned by the Kitsune god from birth.
 
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We have the cult of the fluffy tail, but where's the cult of the futa cock? You'd expect that tod be Kasyrra, but it doesn't really reflect that.
There's enough of that going around Savarra that you don't need a cult; just walk outside and you'll probably find one to worship in short order.
Also, there's a suspicious lack of futas among the Kitsune, makes you wonder if they got converted by some other god instead. I don't think it'd be fair for a Kitsune to have their soul be owned by the Kitsune god from birth.
Except that this is exactly how it works; all kitsune souls are part of their communal oversoul from birth. Floofs are either male or female with no naturally occurring intersex members because they're godsworn and that's how Keros wants things to be, just like all Astrida are big muscly dickgirls whose souls belong to Nareva from birth. The gods can transform the Champ into one in return for your soul, but that's not how it 'normally' works for those two. The only godsworn we know of who are normally transformed from mortals rather than born into the role are Lumia's valkyries.

The one planned (but very back-burnered so who knows if/when she'll get in) floof who is intersex wasn't born that way, it being described as a case of Not-Shinto Fuckery happening.
 
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all kitsune souls are part of their communal oversoul from birth.
I wonder if there are Kitsune who don't agree with that/don't like it. That on its own would be a good reason to fight Keros. If it's fundamentally impossible for such a Kitsune to exist that'd mean a) Kitsune are all brainwashed or b) they share a hivemind in some sense.
a) would be a good reason for a holy crusade against said god, b) would mean all the Kitsune content is just you doing it with a different avatar of Keros, which has all kinds of funny (well, maybe uncomfortable to some, but funny to me) impliciations for their content.
 
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WolframL

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You, uhhh, might wanna refresh your memory on how soul lore works in this setting, because that's not how the kitsune are at all. And I'm not sure how you made the flying leap from 'Can't be born intersex' to 'Brainwashing' in the first place.
 
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Does seem odd that an entire race exists in a world like CoC2 and not one has any inclination to go herm.
pretty sure that is just due to who manages the whole race and content not being into such, the only character that I know the observer writes that can have both is the champ and even then I think there is always a significant ignoring of the genitals not necessary for the scene
 

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Does seem odd that an entire race exists in a world like CoC2 and not one has any inclination to go herm.
I don't recall if the local den has any alchemy going on, but considering they have trade access to the Winter City and (presumably) the merchant-alchemists there, availability is probably not the most limiting factor. This means I have no idea what is, though.

On another hand, it might just be a quirk of the local population. Or writer tastes, but that's not a lore reason.
 

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Does seem odd that an entire race exists in a world like CoC2 and not one has any inclination to go herm.
It's just an effect of the writers not being interested in writing a herm kitsune, its not really a reflection on what the actual potential number of kitsune herms are in Savarra. Similar to how in TiTS female Dzaan are supposed to outnumber herms in universe, but in the game there's 10+ herm Dzaan and one female.
 

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It's just an effect of the writers not being interested in writing a herm kitsune, its not really a reflection on what the actual potential number of kitsune herms are in Savarra. Similar to how in TiTS female Dzaan are supposed to outnumber herms in universe, but in the game there's 10+ herm Dzaan and one female.
there is a Dzaan female????!?!
 

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That there aren't more outfit sets in the game, or in the very least any MALE outfits. Every time I look at my equipment and read the item descriptions I find it hard not to either imagine male champions either looking like he's cross dressing or a bargain bin clown to get the best stats. Also why do we have shirts for topwear but very few pants options for the bottomwear? Kind of wonder if when my mage wears robes he's not wearing pants, unless I get the studded leathers or something.
 

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I'm saddened to live in a world where "melancholy" is somehow, apparently, considered a fancy word.

As a fellow sometimes-paid writer and editor, please stop. You're making us both look ridiculous, and the good points are drowning in everything else.

While I agree that the original sentence indeed needs to be touched up a bit, the idea that "melancholy" is somehow too complex or fancy a word for prose is just plain silly. It can flow perfectly well with that word.
I didn't say too fancy nor did I say too complex a word, simply that given the common usage that most people will associate with it and that particular piece of writing that it is the wrong word to use for the intended context.
 

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I've already made the bug report for this... but I'm going to complain about it here for two reasons. First I just want more eyes on this so this doesn't sit on the back burner for months before it finally gets patched. Second the fact that months after the combat overhaul there is a combat bug for one of your companions is crazy to me.

If you're wondering what I'm talking about, not only does Atugia's perk "font of well" still mention resolve. It's still uses Max resolve for its math. I figured this out because if it was properly using Max HP instead it would be healing her every turn for double what it currently does. So this bug is currently a large Nerf for her.
 

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I've already made the bug report for this... but I'm going to complain about it here for two reasons. First I just want more eyes on this so this doesn't sit on the back burner for months before it finally gets patched. Second the fact that months after the combat overhaul there is a combat bug for one of your companions is crazy to me.

If you're wondering what I'm talking about, not only does Atugia's perk "font of well" still mention resolve. It's still uses Max resolve for its math. I figured this out because if it was properly using Max HP instead it would be healing her every turn for double what it currently does. So this bug is currently a large Nerf for her.
No, no it doesn't use the max resolve. Even if it did, that returns maxHP now.
I nerfed the amount she heals per turn because it was literally absurd. That was an intentional change. She's still one of the best tanks in the game. She might even be the best tank in the game. She's incredibly good. So yes, it is a large nerf for her.
I just apparently either missed the text change or, because of my explanation of HP being "an abstraction of one's willingness to continue fighting", felt it fine enough conceptually to remain.
 

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KERROOOOOOS!!!! He could've at least TOLD the player that freeing your family would trap them in the orb without you for 10+ years, but nooooo! He had to keep it a secret until it was too late! And here I was considering giving my precious soul to him after all! Stupid Trickster :mad: I wouldn't have minded a throwaway line where it's like "you lived with floof fam for 10 years and were very happy" but I guess he's JUST GOTTA BE LIKE THAT! I'll keep my soul to myself, tyvm :mad: you have BLUNDERED my good sir, and I will be keeping my soul to MYSELF.

EDIT: After thinking it through more rationally it'd also be acceptable if there was some explanation as to why you living with your family as they're being extracted isn't possible, then I could've at least visited them one last time to give them an ample, teary-eyed warning before going through with it, cause you living with your fam for those 10 years would remove a lot of the emotional impact the scene otherwise has. What makes me mad is the UNNECESSARY deception. If he wanted my soul then he wouldn't want to aggravate the character too much because it'd have to be freely given, he's not a demon. He just pulled the wool over my eyes for no good reason. Oh well, maybe he didn't see that coming either. In fact that's probably the explanation. God dammit what a waste of a post this was.
Off topic but where do you find all that content at? I had no idea this god of mischief or whatever existed. I thought I did pretty much everything there is to do right now.
 

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1) That comment is over two years old.
2) The place to find the God Of All Floofs is, shockingly, the Floofhaus. If you've never encountered him, you've clearly missed a lot of content because aside from his own interactions he's instrumental in freeing Kiyoko (after which point she becomes a party member with all that implies) and gated behind that is a separate story for Kinu. Also, the first (and currently only, but more are on the way) soulbinding option in the game comes from him.
 
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No, no it doesn't use the max resolve. Even if it did, that returns maxHP now.
I nerfed the amount she heals per turn because it was literally absurd. That was an intentional change. She's still one of the best tanks in the game. She might even be the best tank in the game. She's incredibly good. So yes, it is a large nerf for her.
I just apparently either missed the text change or, because of my explanation of HP being "an abstraction of one's willingness to continue fighting", felt it fine enough conceptually to remain.
Thank you for the clarification on this. Now that I know this is a design choice I would like to add my 2 cents on this. I agree that in early game 10% max HP is a bit absurd. However I feel that as it is now it's falling off pretty hard for middle and late game (I estimating of my math for late game, seeing as we can only get to level 6 for now). The damage mid game enemies can output is a bit to high for the current perk to hold up to and I feel that will only get worse at higher levels. It's what 5% max HP right now? (That what it looks like form my math, but I might be off on that.) I would recommend upping it to about 7% if you fell 10% is too high.
 

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Thank you for the clarification on this. Now that I know this is a design choice I would like to add my 2 cents on this. I agree that in early game 10% max HP is a bit absurd. However I feel that as it is now it's falling off pretty hard for middle and late game (I estimating of my math for late game, seeing as we can only get to level 6 for now). The damage mid game enemies can output is a bit to high for the current perk to hold up to and I feel that will only get worse at higher levels. It's what 5% max HP right now? (That what it looks like form my math, but I might be off on that.) I would recommend upping it to about 7% if you fell 10% is too high.
Uhhh... it is 10%
 

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Uhhh... it is 10%
Well then there is a bug. On my save of the last public build, she is level 5 with a max HP of 329. She will heal off the perk for 16 HP but 10% of 329 is 32.9 so 32 rounded down. Also at level 4 it was only healing for 14 HP. Window download if that helps.
 
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Uhhh... it is 10%
Well then there is a bug. On my save of the last public build, she is level 5 with a max HP of 329. She will heal off the perk for 16 HP but 10% of 329 is 32.9 so 32 rounded down. Also at level 4 it was only healing for 14 HP. Window download if that helps.
I can confirm, my Atugia's got 371 hp and she healed 18 hp at the start of a turn, not 37. This should definitely be in the bug report section, but Everblight already did make the bug report, just misidentifying the source of the problem.
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Oh, I was just looking at an older version of the code when I saw 10% (I haven't done any coding on my main PC in a few months and made the change when I was on my laptop so I just haven't updated my local version). I thought it'd been higher before and I adjusted it down to 10%. My apologies. I could maybe consider 7% or something, but it's the kind of thing I'm liable to spend a bunch of time fiddling with and fine tuning and just haven't had a moment to fuck with. That said, any amount of passive healing is a lot when dealing with someone who can put up constant shields and the like the way Tui can, so it's going to need that sort of fine attention. Still, not a bug, just misremembered what exactly I did.
 
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1) That comment is over two years old.
2) The place to find the God Of All Floofs is, shockingly, the Floofhaus. If you've never encountered him, you've clearly missed a lot of content because aside from his own interactions he's instrumental in freeing Kiyoko (after which point she becomes a party member with all that implies) and gated behind that is a separate story for Kinu. Also, the first (and currently only, but more are on the way) soulbinding option in the game comes from him.
Like 50%+ of your posts are quoting posts 2 years and older
 

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Like 50%+ of your posts are quoting posts 2 years and older
There's a difference between referencing an old post because a current question has already been answered by it (almost always by links) and directly responding to an old post and expecting an answer.
 

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I mean, Garde has been working on LumiaQuest for something like a year now and it's getting close to being done so...

We also know that Astrida soulbinding is gated behind Tychris, which Savin has been doing some work on between other projects but it hasn't been a priority compared to the main story and RynQuest. It's still coming sooner rather than later, certainly well in advance of the end of the main plot.
 
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