What do you mean Kas romancing people continue to ignore that for when they start a argument involving her?You mean, aside from personally intervening when the reality-breaking monster came through the portal?
What do you mean Kas romancing people continue to ignore that for when they start a argument involving her?You mean, aside from personally intervening when the reality-breaking monster came through the portal?
What? Are you telling me that if I go to talk to Lumia with the corr. Dawnsword equipped or in my inventory she's just going to automatically purify it? That's annoying. Why can't I have it on me and just not bring it up? Like you do with the transference orb.If you want your corrupted artifact, you can get your corrupted artifact. Just be a Dark Knight when you run through the quest and then, in the event that you end up having a chat with Lumia, don't bring the corrupted Dawnsword along. It's not hard.
Well, you are still using a corrupt artifact. If I remember right, Liaden or someone is still aware that there is something wrong with the sword, and for champion to continuely use it in its corrupt form is kind of a red flag. It was used by an incubus after all.There is a distinct difference between 'I could not purify it but I might as well use it rather than let it gather dust' compared to 'I purified it, then I fucked it up again'. One can easily be explained, the other cannot. And it's not like the characters know how the gameplay mechanics work, so they don't have any reason to know that the sword stayed the way you found it because you had a 75+ Corruption score without being a sweet bean.
See above, the characters do not know how it happens. We know how it happens because it's the way the game writes it. CoC2 characters are not sans from Undertale with the ability to work out the existence of potential alternate world states.
You mean, aside from personally intervening when the reality-breaking monster came through the portal?
Isn't Dawnsword one of the best weapons? Also, one of the best dual wielding that worked for me in-game was Dawnsword+Sanctified Gladius or Dawnsword + Chrysanthemum Petal. Can't do the 1st option if you're DK champ thought. Also Alypia mentioned: Even if its special ability isn't great compared to the one on the corrupt Dawnsword ....That special ability is also getting a buff in the next Balak pass.I think there should be a way to boost the power of the Dawnsword, all things said tho
As it stands, it feels like a punishment for being a non-corrupt player in that quest
Again, the thing here is plausible deniability. Aly already went over this. You found the sword in a corrupted state, so it is infinitely more plausible that nobody will bat an eye if you can't purify it and keep using it (because they don't know what caused the corruption in the first place, or what it takes to un-corrupt it) than it is that you somehow fixed the sword, then fucked it up again and nobody will find this odd.Well, you are still using a corrupt artifact. If I remember right, Liaden or someone is still aware that there is something wrong with the sword, and for champion to continuely use it in its corrupt form is kind of a red flag. It was used by an incubus after all.
She let her go because she was busy dealing with the reality-eating Lovecraftian abomination, you know, priorities and all.And Lumia did let Kas go and I do not thing that the champion is ever going to be as a dangerous as her.
As Aly already mentioned, Balak is taking a look at that for the next combat rebalance.I think there should be a way to boost the power of the Dawnsword, all things said tho
What about when the abomination doesn't come through the portal? or anytime after it's been dealt with? Or best of all why didn't Lumia deal with Kas before she let eldritch nighttmare into the world? This argument is incredibly flimsy.She let her go because she was busy dealing with the reality-eating Lovecraftian abomination, you know, priorities and all.
Do I need to explain how the gods want to interfere as least as they possibly can, they don't want people to become reliant on them fixing the problem.What about when the abomination doesn't come through the portal? or anytime after it's been dealt with? Or best of all why didn't Lumia deal with Kas before she let eldritch nighttmare into the world? This argument is incredibly flimsy.
Okay, if that's the excuse then lets stick to it. Let's not act like Lumia would ever attack Kas or the Champ for any reason. It would be a very hard sell to get people to buy that Lumia would go after the champ and not Kas or that the only thing stopping her from doing something about kas was some eldritch horror. If she's not doing anything about Kas then she's not doing anything about a corrupt champ who is significantly less of a threat.Do I need to explain how the gods want to interfere as least as they possibly can, they don't want people to become reliant on them fixing the problem.
Mallach straight-up tells Kas that they're not intervening because they're mildly interested in what she's doing and she hasn't crossed the line... yet. He makes it clear that if she does, she'll have to deal with a war with all of the Seven, and their followers. It's not at all a subtle threat that yes, they will intervene directly if they absolutely have to. However, as Savin has already pointed out on the forums, one reason they don't like direct intervention and prefer to work through intermediaries is that the gods whose portfolio includes smiting don't really have any setting between 'off' and 'massive collateral damage'.Let's not act like Lumia would ever attack Kas or the Champ for any reason.
If you're in a situation where the game memetically Bad Ends you for being a murderhobo, you're probably in a situation where one of the gods will smite Kas too, offscreen. Y'know, like they threaten to.It would be a very hard sell to get people to buy that Lumia would go after the champ and not Kas
Who's talking about being a murderhobo? what I'm saying is whatever logic you apply for them not going after Kas you would apply that same logic for them not going after the Champ. And you're telling me that letting an extra-dimensional potentially world destroying nightmare entity into existence( after of course conquering an entire kingdom and wreaking total havoc across the region) isn't crossing the line. But corrupting a holy sword to give it a slight damage boost is taking too far.Mallach straight-up tells Kas that they're not intervening because they're mildly interested in what she's doing and she hasn't crossed the line... yet. He makes it clear that if she does, she'll have to deal with a war with all of the Seven, and their followers. It's not at all a subtle threat that yes, they will intervene directly if they absolutely have to. However, as Savin has already pointed out on the forums, one reason they don't like direct intervention and prefer to work through intermediaries is that the gods whose portfolio includes smiting don't really have any setting between 'off' and 'massive collateral damage'.
If you're in a situation where the game memetically Bad Ends you for being a murderhobo, you're probably in a situation where one of the gods will smite Kas too, offscreen. Y'know, like they threaten to.
The fact that your soul is magically interesting doesn't mean that you're more powerful than Kasyrra or the Seven. That you're more mutable and pick things up faster is partially a handwave for gameplay mechanics (ie, why TFs work so much more readily for you than the average person and why most people don't become chimaeras just by eating the wrong foods) but it also means your soul is a bit different from average, and Kas hopes that might be what it takes to solve her desire for a true child. Alternatively, it might just be the key to returning her to a human form without killing her personality. That your soul might be different enough to do these things doesn't make you stronger, it's more like having a specialized tool to accomplish a task versus being able to brute-force it.Speaking about gods, Savin made it clear that the champion will never become one. But doesn't that make Kas goal to harvest the champion's soul when they are as strong or stronger than her mean they become more powerful than kas. Making them to acquire powers that may rival or be as close to that of the seven when they become soulless.
It's called an example, since a lot of the pissing and moaning seems to boil down to 'I wanna be a Saturday morning cartoon villain but the game won't let me!'.Who's talking about being a murderhobo?
You're getting lost in the weeds here. As Aly said in the post that started this whole damned tangent, it's not the sword itself so much as it being the catalyst for someone to start looking more closely at the bad things a DK champ can do and deciding to, y'know, put a stop to it. Right now, most of the Bad Things happen in isolation or they can be plausibly brushed off as an accident. Re-corrupting a previously purified holy relic is an example of the kind of thing that might just make people take notice and realize 'Hey, pc.name is actually kind of suspicious, maybe we should investigate!'. And I brought up Lumia sending in a valkyrie as, again, an example of how that might play out.And you're telling me that letting an extra-dimensional potentially world destroying nightmare entity into existence( after of course conquering an entire kingdom and wreaking total havoc across the region) isn't crossing the line. But corrupting a holy sword to give it a slight damage boost is taking too far.
Okay sure, but that's not to say they would necessarily find anything. You can still have max corruption without actually corrupting or killing anyone or anything and having sex with demons isn't exactly grounds for execution.You're getting lost in the weeds here. As Aly said in the post that started this whole damned tangent, it's not the sword itself so much as it being the catalyst for someone to start looking more closely at the bad things a DK champ can do and deciding to, y'know, put a stop to it. Right now, most of the Bad Things happen in isolation or they can be plausibly brushed off as an accident. Re-corrupting a previously purified holy relic is an example of the kind of thing that might just make people take notice and realize 'Hey, pc.name is actually kind of suspicious, maybe we should investigate!'. And I brought up Lumia sending in a valkyrie as, again, an example of how that might play out.
Since when does a bird feel tired from gliding. All we had to do was tie the rope and graciously fallAs its explained to Azy during high ground, they dont know how deep it is, they wouldnt want to risk getting tiered.
two things, birds are not human size and weight, second hold your arms out straight for a minute, tell that is not tiringSince when does a bird feel tired from gliding. All we had to do was tie the rope and graciously fall
about those two things. the various flying races ingame are human size and weight and standing while holding your arms out straight isn't the same as falling with your arms out straight especially when when you have an air current pushing up on them.two things, birds are not human size and weight, second hold your arms out straight for a minute, tell that is not tiring
maybe because all other unique one-handed weapons for non corrupt PC also are sad and lousy? like I get it you enjoy lumia a lot and don't wanna corrupt her stuff so just say its because no one wants to write it instead of trying to lore gate itEven if its special ability isn't great compared to the one on the corrupt Dawnsword, it's not "sad" or "broken" and is part of one of the most frequently used weapon combos in the game right now (Pure Dawnsword and Sanctified Gladius). That special ability is also getting a buff in the next Balak pass.
I'd be fine with this since it makes it feel that non DK champs get the short end of the stick in cool weapons wise, first I get punished for not wanting a penis and then I get punished by not liking to play asshole cham, what a wonderful worldI will say that one of the most likely outcomes with the still ongoing combat rebalance is that any item which is notably better than others in its slot (say, the Corrupted Dawnsword) is they're gonna get nerfed hard. So this problem may be solved, just in the opposite direction than you're thinking.
wrong, holding your arms out and falling while holding your arms out at the same time at the same exact angle, and preventing gravity from changing said angle is very tiring, in fact i would say falling with your arms held out in a specific position would be more tiring then just standing there holding your arms upabout those two things. the various flying races ingame are human size and weight and standing while holding your arms out straight isn't the same as falling with your arms out straight especially when when you have an air current pushing up on them.
sorry but.. i dont get it... the dawn sword is way better then the corrupted dawn sword..... both give a power for equipping but the CDS lowers armor, ward and focus while the dawnsword increases all three....i mean seriously..... the best points of the CDS is weakened by the fact it deals blight damage which 90% of enemies are strong agienst, ..... also your whole thing about ryn.... its only true on easy mode and story mode.......sorry but this is the thread for that, demons are easy to kill with Ryn in her outrider gear regardless of how trash the champion is so it really means nothing that it does murder on demons when an ice arrow obliterates half of the group when multiple and really takes a very large chunk if not outright murders single enemies, really to me and apparently not only me the pure dawnsword is a super niche weapon that gets outvoted by a ring very easily