Your gripes with CoC II

[Heroriki]

as of right now?
everything that‘s been planned for Berwyn, and how his original writer was tossed aside. Berwyn has been a long time favourite character of mine, and the combination of Hugs being removed from the scene only to have the character he poured his heart into grossly ruined is extremely disheartening. I doubt I’d have had any issues with the changes if they were written by, or at least approved of by Hugs - but the fact that this has all occurred how it has, disgusts me.

 

[wery12345]

Your not the first and arent going to be the last, it was probably either dump the character or let someone else do it. And im honestly glad they went not thanosing him.

 

[Tide Hunter]

I doubt I’d have had any issues with the changes if they were written by, or at least approved of by Hugs - but the fact that this has all occurred how it has, disgusts me.

I am, once again, linking to this post by B. I don't know if it necessarily is true, but assuming it is, this is a lot less of a massive ruining of Berwyn's character as people make it out to be. This is (supposedly) a quote from Hugs, even if it was from a private conversation, and based on it, things aren't really as gross as your wording implies this to be. Anyways, please do not talk about it further. This conversation has been had several times before, with varying levels of vitriol.

 

[Animalistic]

Just say that B wanted to do it and be done with it. Berwyn is his obligation now so he has right to write him how he wants. It is in god damn "submission" post. If you can not write for the game, for whatever reason, your ungame characters are Savins property. He has a right to do with them as they please.
Ingame reasons do not matter since they can be easily changed to fit any kind of narrative. Especially a loose one like "Berwyn does nor care about his masculinity" which is about as good as justification in turning him into a girl as is the ones people use to give Ryn vagina.

Anyway, my gripe is that I can only punch Takahiro once. Would like to do it many more times. That terrible character deserves it.

 

[SmithEK]

Can we just get over it now? Bloody hell stop whining over someone else writing a character that was abandoned, be more grateful that said character is still getting content.

 

[mikethor007]

Can we just get over it now? Bloody hell stop whining over someone else writing a character that was abandoned, be more grateful that said character is still getting content.

And a sizeable piece of content at that.

Gripe: That the champion can't play a prank on Takahiro and spike his drink with something really revolting.

 

[Animalistic]

Gripe: That the champion can't play a prank on Takahiro and spike his drink with something really revolting.

I do want to hatefuck his ass. Drunk bastard is pussy enough to only want to play sexual prank on you but not you on him.

Can we just get over it now? Bloody hell stop whining over someone else writing a character that was abandoned, be more grateful that said character is still getting content.

You just want another futa girl do not lie.

 

[Rear Admiral Chimera]

Gripe: That the champion can't play a prank on Takahiro and spike his drink with something really revolting.

Pabst Blue Ribbon? That ought to do the trick.

 

[wery12345]

Anyway, my gripe is that I can only punch Takahiro once. Would like to do it many more times. That terrible character deserves it.

I mean im with you on punching more. If only for the fact my characters heart wasnt in it the first time, he was too busy trying to save fox-not-completly-wife and floof kids from the amulet. I wanna Hajime no ippo him this time then help make him into a character who is somehow less liked then the PC who came out of nowhere and became Kero's champion even though they werent born foxen.

 

[Wint3rRyd3r]

Damn. What'd Takahiro do to warrant the hate-boner? Besides, sooner or later someone's gonna threaten to shoot him with an arrow and accidentally fire it. So re-punchening him seems redundant.

 

[SmithEK]

I do want to hatefuck his ass. Drunk bastard is pussy enough to only want to play sexual prank on you but not you on him.

You just want another futa girl do not lie.

I do and i won't lie. Also Methia threesome.

 

[Burnerbro]

Can we just get over it now? Bloody hell stop whining over someone else writing a character that was abandoned, be more grateful that said character is still getting content.

It is about as legitimate a gripe as any other in this thread, and while it isn't the case for me with Berwyn, I know first hand how inter-dev squabbles and mishandling of a vaforite character can murder one's enjoyment of the game.


Back to griping: Vaginas getting no love when it comes to ovi content is a pretty big bummer, by design and with no plans for changing it, IIRC what Savin said, Also a bummer is the fact that hornet and spider babies don't get any traits from their incubator mom/dad is a big bummer for me as a fan of ovi. The latter would have been even easier to explain in a setting with magic abound while really building up the sense that your character isn't a neutral third party for the babies s/he carries to term.

These two things, even more so than Nonesuch's TWO whole dedicated huge chunks of ovi content, make TiTS a by far superior game for the purposes of that particular kink.

 

[Savin]

The latter would have been even easier to explain in a setting with magic abound while really building up the sense that your character isn't a neutral third party for the babies s/he carries to term.

The PC's a genetic null anyway

 

[Burnerbro]

The PC's a genetic null anyway

So no babies inherent any of PC's traits? I wasn't aware of that on account of only making fox and various ovi babies so far. Damn.

Makes me curious why you guys decided against a system similar to TiTS's one for storing info on PC's original appearance they can pass down to the offspring.

 

[Savin]

Makes me curious why you guys decided against a system similar to TiTS's one for storing info on PC's original appearance they can pass down to the offspring.

The PC in this game can start as a member of several different races, which necessitates that either pregnancy ends up being horribly complex (you're not making human/whatever hybrids but potentially one of five starting race/whatever hybrids) or else we have to take the PC out of the equation entirely. And since the whole plot of the game is pinned on the PC being a mutagenic blob anyway, that seemed to be the way to go.

 

[CitrusWolf]

Vaginas getting no love when it comes to ovi content is a pretty big bummer, by design and with no plans for changing it

You'll be happy to know that I am trying to write an NPC that features vaginal ovi content! the only problem now is that I might not be good enough of a writer to get in the game but even so an attempt was made (and a possible commission for an actual writer too when I get a job) oh another problem is that you might not be into him but I'll burn that bridge when I get to it

 

[Bast]

Why put Ambra on the same tile as the waystone where it's harder to "find" her? I don't get it.

 

[wery12345]

Character implications if I had to guess, and just to annoy people to be more honest.

 

[Savin]

Why put Ambra on the same tile as the waystone where it's harder to "find" her? I don't get it.

Why does that make her harder to find -- you literally cannot miss her and she's immediately there whenever your waystone in.

 

[Upcast Drake]

Why put Ambra on the same tile as the waystone where it's harder to "find" her? I don't get it.

I pointed this out to Tobs and recommended against it but he preferred the waystone location.

 

[HugLife]

Why does that make her harder to find -- you literally cannot miss her and she's immediately there whenever your waystone in.

Most other NPCs aren't positioned directly on a waystone, with the only real exceptions being River and the Shrine Maidens. As a consequence, we're not really trained to look for more NPCs on waystone spaces; most of the time I just think "That's the space where I fast travel and change my team", rather than "That's a space where new content might be".

 

[wery12345]

I always look at the waystone tiles interactions, Figured that might happen a few times considering River was there.

 

[SmithEK]

I thought it was a good surprise, wasn't expecting anyone on the waystone square so when I saw the kitten/kitsune (could be, couldn't be?) I got excited.

 

[wery12345]

Waystones outside of the shrine exists to host smol catfolk, my gripe will be is there isnt one for the wayfort, theres only a very fucking big and blue cat.

 

[MyNameJ3ff]

I made an account just to vent how frikkin frustrating it is to use kiyoko in the current end game. extremely low threat does nothing when she gets one shot or two shot by everything! it wouldnt be so bad if the single target one shot abilities like shellcracker and overhead slam actually targetted the high threat target all the time, but nope, kiyoko somehow manages to eat them with next to 0 threat. Either buff her armor (20ish armor? seriously?) or buff threat to be more impactful in enemy targetting mechanics

 

[wery12345]

I use mirror stance which the threat it generates tends to make enemies completely ignore my allies Kiyoko included. I dont think have red threat will always guarantee they wont get hit.

 

[Bast]

Why does that make her harder to find -- you literally cannot miss her and she's immediately there whenever your waystone in.

The game teaches us to look for certain symbols when looking for NPCs. The Waystone symbol isn’t one of them.

I’m fairly certain that many people will walk past her the first few times when entering Khor’Minos with all the new stuff that’s there.

 

[MyNameJ3ff]

I use mirror stance which the threat it generates tends to make enemies completely ignore my allies Kiyoko included. I dont think have red threat will always guarantee they wont get hit.

try fighting earth elemental in undertunnels. or any single fights. Red threat on your tank round 1? nope, overhead smash for kiyoko and friend.

 

[Bast]

try fighting earth elemental in undertunnels. or any single fights. Red threat on your tank round 1? nope, overhead smash for kiyoko and friend.

Initial combat aggro for tanks really is extremely low in this game. That’s correct. I’ve seen others point out that flaw as well.

 

[mikethor007]

try fighting earth elemental in undertunnels. or any single fights. Red threat on your tank round 1? nope, overhead smash for kiyoko and friend.

Most of the time I just run from that fight. Paltry XP and Electrum payoff. Never dropped any loot for me.

When I don't run, I just wallop it with Banishment. BOOM, elemental gone.

Or Celestial Smite, takes a huge chunk off of it in my experience.