Or Garrett has mommy problems as or almost as bad as Gwyn's daddy problems and they didn't want both siblings to get memed on.
Your gripes with CoC II
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Or Garrett has mommy problems as or almost as bad as Gwyn's daddy problems and they didn't want both siblings to get memed on.
Beyond Elyon being a guy which automatically makes him less likely to catch attention in the eyes of the fanbase, I do find him somewhat, how should I say, poorly presented.
Elyon quest kinds bums me out in how it leaves nothing to the player to decide. Instead of letting the player choose to help the damaged pretty boy on their own terms, Ryn forces it on us without our champion having say in the matter. Which not only makes it less personal on the players end but it also leads me feeling disconnected from my in game surrogate. Like, I as a player was following through it because I found him cute and I wanted to help Elyon. My champion on other hand was always antagonistic towards him and the only reason they seemed interesting in helping him was because "Ryn asked of us so." My champion feels as distant from him in the end as from the start of the quest. Which leads to the following sexy times feeling out of place. Since, before that, my champion genuinely felt like they found Elyone anything but a attractive.
Now, besides that major gripe, I do find his tsundere shtick kind of tiring. In context of the game mind you. Like, it is cute and I can see how it can develop further into him showing his feelings more openly. But at same time, in the game where it feels like most men have more interest in other people than the champion (Imad, Elf boy, Takahiro, Darius, Garret, Sugo...) it ends up as repetitive experience. Like, what does a girl/boy have to do to have a guy look at them and go "damn, you aint half bad!" without a caveat.
And also, when it comes to sex scenes, I do find them little bit to meme. Especially the whole hugging thing. And, as someone who likes to play guys with dicks, it feels like they were not designed to account us in mind. With how they never mention things such as prostate or giving us a handy down.
Still, beyond all this, I do want more content from him. As said, I do like his tsundere shtick. I am sucker for character arcs where the said characters mellows out and becomes more open. Maybe a marriage down the line? I can only hope.
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You and me both. The bloody "hand holding is SO LEWD!!!" joke stopped being funny over five years ago.
If a bloke behaved like Garrett IRL it wouldn't be seem as sexy at all..
Some people like creativity in their smut despite how things would turn out to be in real life. The good and bad thing about fantasies is that they don't need to be doable (or enacted!) in real life.
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I get that and not complaining.. I just don't like what both Garrett and Arona call MC.. Bitch.. that word, I don't know why but to me is just the worst. Call me a Cunt and that's fine but Bitch.
Well, if the champion's a lupine AND a female (which is what those scenes require), then the Champ's a bitch by default 
I get its your personal preference but really? Bitch is a lot less rude than cunt in most peoples minds.
Perhaps a word filter & replacer like the JS version of TiTS has would help a lot of this sort of issues, if it's technically feasible for CoC2?
It's probably another, why tits has the stat tracker and coc doesn't matter.
Talking about things people don't like and filters and technical stuff impossible to implement, you know what i would like? tags to know what a sex scene contains before selecting it.
A dumb example; if my champion is male, and i go to Brint's sex menu, it could have tags like "gay", "dom npc", and so on. If my champion is female, instead of "gay", it would be "straight" and probably also have "MC impregnation".
Of course, this not only requires revisiting every scene ever, but also going into murky territory, like "if my champ is male, and has sex with Etheryn, is it gay or not"
A dumb example; if my champion is male, and i go to Brint's sex menu, it could have tags like "gay", "dom npc", and so on. If my champion is female, instead of "gay", it would be "straight" and probably also have "MC impregnation".
Of course, this not only requires revisiting every scene ever, but also going into murky territory, like "if my champ is male, and has sex with Etheryn, is it gay or not"
Active filtering of content has already been declared Not Happening Ever, scene tags would be only slightly less of a pain in the ass (slightly, especially if you want them to be parser-ised as well) and for no real benefit. Consider this: If you read the sex options and tooltips and pay attention to context, you'll already get a pretty good idea what the scene is going to involve without needing the game to hold your hand and walk you through it.
That said, I could imagine some funny fake tags in Silly Mode, like the high-Corruption win option for the Mino Miners 'warning' the player of Moo/Moo content.
That said, I could imagine some funny fake tags in Silly Mode, like the high-Corruption win option for the Mino Miners 'warning' the player of Moo/Moo content.
i remember paraphore having those too, for REALLY extreme stuff
being english not my first language, some words are lost on me. Like, what the hell is "pitch anal"? that scene in Vaush's menu doesn't have a clear tooltip.
to be fair, i still woudn't participate in a scene with Vaush, being my characters always male, and completely opposed to any form of anal intercourse, but still, what does it mean?
The game is written by and for English speakers (either as their primary language or at least a secondary language they're really comfortable with) and that means slang is going to be used. In this case, 'Pitch' comes from sports terminology and means the Champ is the one giving the dick, while 'Catch' would be the Champ receiving the dick.
Which of those three words is unclear?
You mean this tooltip?
Which of those three words is unclear?
well, colour me surprised, i was sure there was no tooltip last time i checkedThe game is written by and for English speakers (either as their primary language or at least a secondary language they're really comfortable with) and that means slang is going to be used. In this case, 'Pitch' comes from sports terminology and means the Champ is the one giving the dick, while 'Catch' would be the Champ receiving the dick.
You mean this tooltip?
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Which of those three words is unclear?
never seen anything related to baseball in my life. probably never even heard the word spoken in real life.
I really wish the game let me choose which characters I hate or not. I think is more of a writing problem than anything, one example is the game acting like I dislike Nakano for some reason (yeah he attacked me but so did like half the characters in this game) or disapprove of Kinu marriage without any input telling I actually feel that way. Maybe I'm misinterpreting the content if so feel free to correct me.
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Well if you notice he shows the same dislike for you and he really doesn't want you around the den if you aren't Kitsune and when you are a Kitsune and Keros' Champion (I'm not sure on this but anyone feel free to correct me) he feels insulted or something similar.
Even if he dislikes me, I don't have any animosity towards him nor do I expect him to like me anytime soon if at all. I for one I'm glad Kiyoko is handling things and taking care of the kits lives while I'm out there cracking heads . When I got the news that Kinu was getting married I felt actually happy that she didn't grew stunted because of the orb. I don't think I'll ever hate him even if by the end of the game my relationship with him end up as this:
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Listen, I know that you are naming all the logistics as to why he and I should be at each other throats but I'd still fuck him.
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Another thing is that I wish we could give her something to help in her quests. I don't expect we fight her battles but at least show some support, like giving a consumable or god forbid teaching her one of our powers; considering her and the PC ability for quick learning if would be a nice show of bounding, but that's a topic for the other thread.
Champs only throwing back what nanako is giving, and the animosity stems from the fact that when you have hime kinu he's still acting like a suicidal samurai looking for a war to die in, so the champ is just angry that he isn't putting their daught/fiance above that. The champ does want to like their future son in law if you read what is said.
I do understand that, but I think showing bitterness towards a character should be a decision made by the player.
Yeah I know, but then that causes the issue of needing to have every scene account for both versions of if you do or don't, which doesn't seem that out if place considering how many other fox things have to account for 2(with rindos I assume 3) variations. So the best default is top be mad at him, maybe the champ will be less mad at him as kinuQuest progresses.
I'd more say the the best default is for the champ's character to be neutral in their descriptions of how they interact. Maybe somewhat antagonistic, but overt hostility and clear anger should not be the default for the Champ's interactions. The only default assumed emotion I really think should appear in scenes, beyond near-neutrality or beyond scenes where the player can choose how the Champ acts (i.e. "fuck off"), is lust, and that's only for a sex scene and its leadup. I ain't an authority, but that's my personal opinion. If an author wants a series of choices which can determine how the champ feels, and then writes accordingly, sure, but while the champ is technically a separate character rather than being us, they're malleable that most feelings should just be how we think the Champ feels, rather than what we get told to feel.
I have talked with Tobs about toning that down in future content.
Yeah I hope it's a bit less aggro too, finally got kinuQuest to proc on my newest save and sheesh the champ was a bit agressive in one of the situation talks With Miko after the first attack, I get the champ was mad but buh god.
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