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Balaknightfang

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How does that not also apply to incest?
I don't want to get into this after this because I don't want to shit things up with the worst possible combination of REEEEEya and incest, but first of all, racism—despicable though it may be—is technically legal. You can be a racist. People are. It's a perfectly normal character flaw, and even if you don't like it, that's just a statement of fact. Riya's content just takes that and the fact that it's a taboo and turns it into a kink. She's also one character in a vast pool and isn't even that expansive. In addition, her content is incredibly clear that she is, in fact, a parody. Her lines are incredibly over-the-top.

Incest is straight up illegal. While patreon has made the awful choice of getting to define what's "artistic" and what's not, we have to deal with it. I don't like that they're hard blocking certain types of text-based or drawn porn any more than the next guy, but fact of the matter is that there was practically a novel's worth of nuclear incest, which is explicitly what they banned (primarily parent+child but siblingcest is sketchy).

Also, double standards exist. Get used to it.
 

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I don't want to get into this after this because I don't want to shit things up with the worst possible combination of REEEEEya and incest, but first of all, racism—despicable though it may be—is technically legal. You can be a racist. People are. It's a perfectly normal character flaw, and even if you don't like it, that's just a statement of fact. Riya's content just takes that and the fact that it's a taboo and turns it into a kink. She's also one character in a vast pool and isn't even that expansive. In addition, her content is incredibly clear that she is, in fact, a parody. Her lines are incredibly over-the-top.

Incest is straight up illegal. While patreon has made the awful choice of getting to define what's "artistic" and what's not, we have to deal with it. I don't like that they're hard blocking certain types of text-based or drawn porn any more than the next guy, but fact of the matter is that there was practically a novel's worth of nuclear incest, which is explicitly what they banned (primarily parent+child but siblingcest is sketchy).

Also, double standards exist. Get used to it.
A great way to not get into something is to not write an extensive post about something that is already in the shit pit :p
And I can think of few things that are as sexually unattractive as racism. I feel she wouldn't be as big of a deal if she served some other purpose. Sera for instance sells a bunch of very useful mods, this makes her infinitely more tolerable. Riya is just an eyesore. And as far as her being a parody goes, yes she could be seen as over the top, but parodies are meant to be over the top for comedic effect. Most if not all people don't find her funny. And the real world legality of either of them doesn't hold much water when we're talking about such an exaggerated fictional setting.
 
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Balaknightfang

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And I can think of few things that are as sexually unattractive as racism. I feel she wouldn't be as big of a deal if she served some other purpose. Sera for instance sells a bunch of very useful mods, this makes her infinitely more tolerable. Riya is just an eyesore. And as far as her being a parody goes, yes she could be seen as over the top, but parodies are meant to be over the top for comedic effect. Most if not all people don't find her funny. And the real world legality of either of them doesn't hold much water when we're talking about such an exaggerated fictional setting.

To you, yes. We try not to kink shame, and if you're a person who can and does enjoy that form of degradation as a kink, then she's great for that. If not, so be it, but don't shit on it as a kink because you don't find it hot.

Also, you've moved the goal posts. The original thing about incest was your problem that it's banned. It's banned because of patreon, not because Fen just suddenly said "Oh boy, I should ban one of the most popular fetishes and piss of my fan base because a huge chunk of really popular, well written content has to be removed." Patreon banned incest because it's illegal and due to pressure from payment processors, who get cold feet with such things.
 

Linarahn

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I mean, you aren't forced to interact with her. You can just pass by her. Not everything you come across in the game is going to be your fetish.
Yes, it's optional, but as I stated before, it's also a beginner's trap because A) nothing like it exists and B) it's a starter area.

So you guys gonna ignore this:
...and continue with your "Riya is a bigoted racist" schtick?
That's because she is.

Riya isn't corrupt she just pulls some strings to ensure her job due to her racist tendencies but she will arrest everybody fairly human or not.
Can you -really- say with a straight face someone pulling strings to keep their job isn't corrup and that someone with racist tendencies will treat everybody fairly? Really?

It's also worth noting that she is Franks' putting a raceplay kink variant into the game, in this case with nonhumans because hfy, because Franks and others find that hot.
It's not really a kink in the context of the game if it's part of the character and not just confined to the bedroom, now is it. I get that some people get off on this, but good grief there's better ways to introduce that sort of thing if you really must have it.


Riya isn't actually a racist, she just hard trolls everybody.

If you read through her content to completion. (And I mean every fucking letter, no skimming. I'm talking Fenoxo Reading level 7 here folks.) Then you realize she actually has a soft spot for her Ausar boss, and makes a pretty big effort of keeping all her comrades alive, no matter their species. Hell you can have half breed babies with her, and she's pretty "chill" with you in the nursery, (Kinda has Sera syndrome with it being a safe space for her, but Riya less so).

My favorite thing to cite is the Riya Christmas event where Riya, very "happily" (consensual resistance till top bitch is established) gets dommed by Grence, her Ausar boss. SOME HOT SHEET there.

Riya puts up a front, a facade if you will. Now if you want to make a 35k essay about why she's like this, cause I imagine you would, be my guest. But all in all, her attitude boils down to one thing, Franks being Franks, and Franks lowkey making fun of 4chan. (Do not quote me on the 4chan thing, that part changes like the wind.)

And to this I have to say: Racist people can and will make an exception for "the good ones", that doesn't make them any less racist.
 

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Yes, it's optional, but as I stated before, it's also a beginner's trap because A) nothing like it exists and B) it's a starter area.


That's because she is.


Can you -really- say with a straight face someone pulling strings to keep their job isn't corrup and that someone with racist tendencies will treat everybody fairly? Really?


It's not really a kink in the context of the game if it's part of the character and not just confined to the bedroom, now is it. I get that some people get off on this, but good grief there's better ways to introduce that sort of thing if you really must have it.




And to this I have to say: Racist people can and will make an exception for "the good ones", that doesn't make them any less racist.

...beyond just messing with you to get you worked up she isn't showing any "racist tendencies".

Now you are just making excuses to justify your REEEEEEEya rants...
 

Linarahn

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...beyond just messing with you to get you worked up she isn't showing any "racist tendencies".

Now you are just making excuses to justify your REEEEEEEya rants...
Am I? I stated before that I have to deal with people like that outside of games regularly so fuck me for being more sensitive to that shit, I guess.

I don't begrudge people who get off on her stupid shtick, maybe you should go back and read my other posts on the topic and actually get what I'm saying. But I'll summarize it for you anyway: IF IT WAS CONFINED TO THE BEDROOM I WOULDN'T REALLY CARE! But the fact that she behaves that way, is a cop AND in the starting zone where newcomers can easily get the wrong idea about what the game will be like and put off (which no creator should want) or miss out on characters like Penny and Sylvie because they'll expect similar shit from them is far from a good place to be in.

Hell, if Riya was written with any sort of tact and placed on a later world in a position that doesn't entail working with all sorts of people on a daily basis, I'd maybe even see the merit of having an openly discriminating character in TiTS and exploring the reasons and consequences of that type of behavior.

But alas, it's a fucking porn game and the thought and care necessary to handle that kind of subject material respectfully and without ticking people off evidently wasn't applied here.

And again, if it was confined to the bedroom, I wouldn't care. If Riya was, say, a designated degradation-play prostitute at Beth's where you know off the bat what you're getting into, I would be fine with that because it's telegraphed and can be easily avoided without being a beginner's trap for the 4chan lulz.
 

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It's not really a kink in the context of the game if it's part of the character and not just confined to the bedroom, now is it. I get that some people get off on this, but good grief there's better ways to introduce that sort of thing if you really must have it.
I. I don't actually know what you are trying to say here? That it isn't there to sexually gratify some of the players because she also treats them like shit outside the bedroom?

Because most kinks aren't really strictly confined to the bedroom in this game, shit the whole TF stuff is basically kinks that most of the game participate in, mostly outside the bedroom.
 

Linarahn

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I. I don't actually know what you are trying to say here? That it isn't there to sexually gratify some of the players because she also treats them like shit outside the bedroom?

Because most kinks aren't really strictly confined to the bedroom in this game, shit the whole TF stuff is basically kinks that most of the game participate in, mostly outside the bedroom.

Let me put it this way: If you can't differentiate at a glance what is kink play and what isn't, it probably should remain confined explicitely to sex scenes. Riya as is, to me, is the equivalent of a watersports enthusiast pissing on your leg without warning or your consent that you find it hot, too, if it really is just a sexual thing for her, as people here claim.
 

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Can you -really- say with a straight face someone pulling strings to keep their job isn't corrup and that someone with racist tendencies will treat everybody fairly? Really?
Let me rephrase that she is ex special forces and will still join in missions if asked by her former superiors. So she deserves the job security.

Also she will treat criminals and suspects fairly regardless of race. Although outside of arrests her fake racism will shine through
 

Linarahn

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Also she will treat criminals and suspects fairly regardless of race. Although outside of arrests her fake racism will shine through

But what makes you so sure it's fake and not a sincerely held belief? You can still be a racist asshole and put showing those tendencies on the backburner if your ass is on the line and your life depends on not antagonizing the people around you at the time (with regards to the special forces part).

If it's fake, why behave that way at all to perfect strangers? At some point, there stops being a difference between pretending to be an asshole and being an asshole.
 

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Racism this, incest that, rants and muh feels. Some people just love to start fires, and I'm looking at Kokayi specifically here. The majority are somewhat fine with content that have rape, slavery and even murder but the moment racism gives even a whiff of existence people are up in arms. The lock and key can practically be smelled already. This is a dead horse. It's been dead for quite a while and it makes zero sense to waste time or effort to beat it. Agree to disagree and move on.
 
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Let me put it this way: If you can't differentiate at a glance what is kink play and what isn't, it probably should remain confined explicitely to sex scenes. Riya as is, to me, is the equivalent of a watersports enthusiast pissing on your leg without warning or your consent that you find it hot, too, if it really is just a sexual thing for her, as people here claim.
Sure that holds true in the real world, but this is a game, a fetish game at that, people aren't claiming that its a sexual thing for her they say she is slightly trolling and her being super racist plays into some peoples race-play fetish, for a lot of people whether she actually means it or not doesn't matter, because people know this is fiction and they play it for the fantasy presented, in the same way a ton of race-play kink fiction have actual racists in it.

Riya is a racist (Or behaves like a racist at least) and thats hot, not only because she treats my character like shit during sex but because she treats them like shit outside of it too, that plays into the overall fantasy, in the same that knowing that my character doesn't just play being more bimbo-like when she gets treated, its an actual mental effect.

If she just was a person who treated you like shit in general and then when you consented to race play would degrade you, that would be hot sure, but it wouldn't in any way be the same kind of fantasy as the one presented in the game.
 

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Alrighty,i think we can have some moar artists in game,maybe contact Jay Echo or Gats again(also why did Fen didn't add Jay's Penny bust,its so good!)
 

Narmlet

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Honey Nozzle could also use some more strippers...um-like this p-preferably:
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Foken hell...
 
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I wonder if it would be possible to add a feature before battle to trash talk or distract the enemy. That way you can drop their morale, make them reckless, so they miss more often or neglect to use more tactical attacks.
 
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sumgai

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Alrighty,i think we can have some moar artists in game,maybe contact Jay Echo or Gats again(also why did Fen didn't add Jay's Penny bust,its so good!)

I think Penny has the most busts per character in game so far. I really dig Jacques00 bust though. Really good line art and excellent use of color. And the little detail of what Penny is swinging based on her having clothing or being nude.
 

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I think Penny has the most busts per character in game so far. I really dig Jacques00 bust though. Really good line art and excellent use of color. And the little detail of what Penny is swinging based on her having clothing or being nude.
Is she though?I think the fanfare for having most busts would be Syri but ey i don't keep track of em.
 

sumgai

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Is she though?I think the fanfare for having most busts would be Syri but ey i don't keep track of em.

Remember, Penny can pack two different kind of cocks. That adds up.

Syri is also missing the old Cheshire busts. I liked them, but I understand why they were removed. They're still up on the wiki.
 

Narmlet

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Remember, Penny can pack two different kind of cocks. That adds up.

Syri is also missing the old Cheshire busts. I liked them, but I understand why they were removed. They're still up on the wiki.
Huh didn't knew Penny has busts for horsecocks but oh well.
Mmm I dunno about old Cheshire but the knew one's are hot as hell. Wish he'd finish up Anno already.
 

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i want more melee weapons and a better version of the warden shield.
i also appreciate the cool quest given armors like the hide armor from the siege event.
 
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The only art I like are by Cheshire and Adjatha.

EDIT:
Wait there were one other one that was great.
 

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i want more melee weapons and a better version of the warden shield.
i also appreciate the cool quest given armors like the hide armor from the siege event.

I want more storage first. :x
 

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Yeah I saw that wikia note about that hate fucking. Not healthy.
And trolling? Riya being a troll doesn't add to her, it diminishes her more.
She's the only brown skinned barely modded fully human character I've seen. And she's a cop, corrupt, mean, and into hate sex and apparently a troll.
What's her saving grace? Liking video games?
What's 4chan have to do with anything? All I know is when I was fully human, she was nice and talked about games. Then I alter myself with shit I found in Mhen'ga and she treats me like shit. I've never seen a XMas special or the April Fools stuff for that matter. I don't even know if that stuff is canon. All I know is hate fucking a type of person who've spent most of the week being prejudice to isn't cool, or likeable or healthy.
Generally Fen has only 4 requirements for content
  1. The writing is of sufficent quality
  2. No lore conflicts with existing content
  3. Smut
  4. No blacklist (incest, vore, scat, etc.)
  5. (For existing content, the original author has supreme veto power)
Riya satisfied this criteria. As controversial as she is, the fact that Franks wrote her, Fen accepted her in accordance with above requirements, and a coder implemented her are a valid reason to exist. Most people (myself included) bemoan her existence, but the investment by writer and coder are all that is strictly necessary. There was never a rule that says content in bad taste is not allowed.
 
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Then.... can we have a quest where Riya and Grence take Steele on a ride-along like TRAINING DAY and they show they better qualities?
 
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I can't remember ...the was a pic of Fisianna with her claw up like she was waving that you can switch to in the game. I'm not sure who did it. Maybe it was Shou.
I also like Lilirulu.