What content would you like added?

CitrusWolf

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to be honest I agree that everywhere feels really dead with the only characters you can ever talk with being the ones you can fuck and the odd River like npc, like I get main writers not wanting to do anything non porn related that doesn't fir their special interest like the observer loves his old country, but fully banning non sexual content submissions is so silly
 

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as far as I have seen you enjoy being mean to her and I think that is available for high confidence Ryn only, but I can be misremembering!
Oh, those! Yeah, if I remember right, they are not Locke behind you having low confidence Ryn, they just raise her confidence so I never pick them.

Yeah, I think that what I would like is more events with Ryn that do not raise or, even better, lower her confidence. I enjoyed a lot of early ones so I hope her next major expansion has some of them in que.
 
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Like it or not, a blacksmith is a "natural" sort of contact for a band of adventurers,

I already covered this in my previous post. A couple of these don't even offer services to the party, so there's no reason for the champion to even come in contact with them.

My (admittedly, vague after a few months since i've played the game last time) impression/memory of the Winter City is that it's a dead-empty little square where nothing happens attached to a big-ass palace with three people spaced across dozen+ locations where, between few quests, also nothing happens.

Because, if you'd actually read my previous post, we never promised, nor hyped it up as anything more than the dungeon that would cap off act one; the city itself was meant to be an empty setpiece. There were absolutely no interactable city or repeat NPCs promised as part of the package; anything else is a bonus. And downplaying four NPCs, two of which are considerably major, one sub-dungeon, three quests which originate from the location, one major holiday event and multiple minor events where the place was intended to be barren from the outset is, frankly, disingenuous. And yes, Alypia's walkabouts and Ryn's dates are far more effective than a bunch of clones of Anon's or Burt's.

Actual comparisons to locations that are intended to be population and content hubs -- Hawkethorne, Khor'minos, the orcish warcamp -- would be more appropriate.

If one wants to see it, write it. But no bars or shops.

would it have been better if those were all locations we could explore ourselves?

would of been better as basically two corridors and a tour giving a summary of the location.

This is a false dichotomy based on a hyperbolic statement. The choice isn't between shops and bars and having absolutely nothing.

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So, in a short exchange, we've had:

-People pressing points which were already addressed previously, showing either not reading or attempting reinforcement through repetition.

-The conflation of "pure infrastructure" with "no worldbuilding permitted".

-A false dichotomy of "do something else than bars and shops" vs "have no content".

I don't see any point in engaging any further. Anyways, Rudra, if you're still here, a summary of the relevant guidelines to your question:

-You are expected to have sex in your submission; pure infrastructure is the privilege of staff and a couple trusted community writers, and rare at that. Since you do not belong to either group, having no sex in your submission is going to get it binned. We expect a reasonable amount (4-5 scenes per character, suggested ~1500 words in a scene after parsing, strongly recommend scenes for all genital configurations unless they have particular tastes).

-You are strongly suggested to consider steering your submission away from well-trod ground; this is a sentiment that's not just shared by me, but also creative control in the form of Savin. When it comes to such content, you should be aware that the bar for review will be set much higher, cetris paribus, than it otherwise would be. While we won't pass up absolutely stellar content, you'd have to do a truly novel spin on the subject matter and work on Alypia's level.
 
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-You are expected to have sex in your submission; pure infrastructure is the privilege of staff and a couple trusted community writers, and rare at that. Since you do not belong to either group, having no sex in your submission is going to get it binned. We expect a reasonable amount (4-5 scenes per character, suggested ~1500 words in a scene after parsing, strongly recommend scenes for all genital configurations unless they have particular tastes).
so to make sure i am understanding this right, not rudra but interested in adding some characters, they HAVE to be sexable....and with all genital types unless they have preferance gender wise... atleast 4-5 scenes and abourlt 1500 words per scene..... so how easy do they have to be sexable.... like can we add something to make it feel earned where it has to be earned or does it just have to be avalible?
 

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-You are strongly suggested to reconsider your idea of yet another watering hole; this is a sentiment that's not just shared by me, but also creative control in the form of Savin. If you're insistent on writing yet another watering hole, sure. You should be aware that the bar for review will be set much higher, cetris paribus, than it otherwise would be. While we won't pass up absolutely stellar content, you'd have to do a truly novel spin on the subject matter and work on Alypia's level.
I do, in large part, agree with your points, but it should be pointed out that Rudra never said that they were making a bar.
How interested are people in seeing purely non-sexual content in the game?

I've had an idea brewing for potential characters and location, but bar one (potentially) none of them will be sexable for (obvious) reasons

but it would be more worldbuilding, a new NPC or five to talk to(with quite a bit of conversation!) , and a bit of a money sink for champs with nothing to do if i learn to figure out the parser
They use the word "bar", but that was in the phrase "bar one", not "this is a bar". What the specific location would be was never stated, beyond it being a money-sink.
 
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I do, in large part, agree with your points, but it should be pointed out that Rudra never said that they were making a bar.

They use the word "bar", but that was in the phrase "bar one", not "this is a bar". What the specific location would be was never stated, beyond it being a money-sink.

Right, my bad. Corrected in the post.
 

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I know where not getting this in coc 2. but I still want to just throw it out here.

a small stream punk town that is big on mining. no shops or anything. maybe one or three woman just telling, where you are, how you and they are doing and wanna fuck.

find one guy that, you think it's a guy. they tell you how ten of there man and woman bin gone in the minis for to long. so they asks you to go in and see what is up.

you go in and you see what is up and now. some guy.. woman.. holding something. you don't know. small fight brakes out. you win. pick up what ever it was and give it back to who ever it was that that was running the town and then go about your day.

but is best that this just stays as a thought then anything.
 

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I already covered this in my previous post. A couple of these don't even offer services to the party, so there's no reason for the champion to even come in contact with them.
You may think you did, but that line of reasoning has it backward -- that (some) of your implementations are lacking and don't meet the expectations, it doesn't make the expectations any less relevant and/or valid. If your premise starts with "but some of the blacksmiths we did were half-assed and don't even do what's expected of them" then the conclusion should be "so that's something to improve upon" instead of "so that's somehow a proof we should never do another blacksmith again".

Because, if you'd actually read my previous post, we never promised, nor hyped it up as anything more than the dungeon that would cap off act one; the city itself was meant to be an empty setpiece. (...) And yes, Alypia's walkabouts and Ryn's dates are far more effective than a bunch of clones of Anon's or Burt's.
If you'd read my post you'd notice I never said anything about promises you've made or not made, and wasn't referring to them. I've simply disagreed with your claim about the Ryn dates being effective way to make the dead setpiece appear as anything more than it currently is -- a dead setpiece. Alypia's work might be doing it for you in this regard, for me it doesn't. At all.

So, in a short exchange, we've had:

-People pressing points which were already addressed previously, showing either not reading or attempting reinforcement through repetition.
No, we have largely a misunderstanding on your part of what the raised points are about. Which makes it quite easier to dismiss them, sure.
 

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This is a false dichotomy based on a hyperbolic statement. The choice isn't between shops and bars and having absolutely nothing.
It was you who brought up Dhaal and it's locations/writing when comparing it to the kind of writing in the winter palace at least I assume that's why you mentioned it, otherwise I have no idea. TiTs writing and design must seem like the height of indulgence by these metrics.
The reason people say the Winter City and its palace which should be the biggest city seen until the Minotaurs were added to the game gets considered lifeless or desolate is because it is. Pretty much a ghost town that mostly gets by on one-off events in comparison to every other game-city the player encounters.
That one bar in dhaal competes for more world building and sex then the whole winter city and palace. It manages to be more descriptive in four tiles then the entire palace. And that's one bar in the zone, one optional place.
 
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Because, if you'd actually read my previous post, we never promised, nor hyped it up as anything more than the dungeon that would cap off act one; the city itself was meant to be an empty setpiece. There were absolutely no interactable city or repeat NPCs promised as part of the package; anything else is a bonus. And downplaying four NPCs, two of which are considerably major, one sub-dungeon, three quests which originate from the location, one major holiday event and multiple minor events where the place was intended to be barren from the outset is, frankly, disingenuous. And yes, Alypia's walkabouts and Ryn's dates are far more effective than a bunch of clones of Anon's or Burt's.
It's interesting to get insights like this into the intentions behind how some areas were designed. During my first playthrough, I did indeed think the city was a bit sparse compared to other areas of the game, but honestly, the gravity of the events that play out in the castle made me completely forget about that until it was brought up here. If people do want to come up with more content for the city to flesh it out more, then that's great, but it should be an organic process, and not just because of "needs moar stuff."
 

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The elf city points are pretty valid, but I also reeeally don't care. I'm entirely happy watching the elvencity get zero content except whatever bone Ryn throws it.
 

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I've given plenty of thought to how to hypothetically deal with Byvernia. It usually comes to one of three lines:
  • Handing her to the Chargers. (Kor'Minos has their own procedures for punishing banditry)
  • Destroying her belongings. Her weapons and potions, namely, though stripping her naked and blasting all her worldly possessions into ash and scrap sends a message.
  • Giving her to Arona's tribe. As a slave.
Yikes I don't particularly like Byvernia either but that seems pretty cruel. Yeah she can be annoying but there are plenty enemies that attack the PC for no particular reason. Perhaps just ask for permanent removal option like the elf boy in old forest?
but byvernia is not a bandit and a mother of your kids (if your male and bred her)..... she is a hunter hunting wyverns
Or you could just marry her to put an end to her fight for dominance
She's only into dicks....and not everyone plays dicked champs and even if they do, not everyone is into her. So for vag-only champs that's out of the option.
 

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I just run from Byvernia because she's not at all my cup of tea. However, I'm not sure how one would write her removal, because with the way she is written, it is clear she is not willing to leave you, the PC, alone. Perhaps a friendship path would be in order, and maybe afterwards some new unlockable sex scenes.
 

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I was at work, and now that I'm home I've been reading all your responses. It's interesting, to state the least.


I don't see any point in engaging any further. Anyways, Rudra, if you're still here, a summary of the relevant guidelines to your question:

-You are expected to have sex in your submission; pure infrastructure is the privilege of staff and a couple trusted community writers, and rare at that. Since you do not belong to either group, having no sex in your submission is going to get it binned. We expect a reasonable amount (4-5 scenes per character, suggested ~1500 words in a scene after parsing, strongly recommend scenes for all genital configurations unless they have particular tastes).

-You are strongly suggested to consider steering your submission away from well-trod ground; this is a sentiment that's not just shared by me, but also creative control in the form of Savin. When it comes to such content, you should be aware that the bar for review will be set much higher, cetris paribus, than it otherwise would be. While we won't pass up absolutely stellar content, you'd have to do a truly novel spin on the subject matter and work on Alypia's level.

Alright, I was leery of adding sex due to the nature of my planned submission, but I feel I should clarify what that actually is

I was thinking of adding an orphanage/school, with the added NPCs in question being the schoolmaster, (who I'm thinking of making a white haired bishonen with an athletic build, incidentally) and several children who you could have a few interactions with, like teaching them maths/reading etc or playing some sports. the money sink part would be from buying supplies/upgrading the school/dorms, like Gwyn's nursery

I feel this would make the world seem more real and would allow for consequences of Kassyra's invasion beyond the sexual - clearly people would be affected by this, and while its implied the demons do not harm children, it would make sense for there to be a safe place for those without parents or whose parents are away as the average civilians don't know that.

If sex is mandatory I'll work something in for the only adult here - the schoolmaster, as hopefully all of you know why I'm not even going to consider adding anything in for the students


And any feedback y'all have is appreciated, of course
 

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I apologize if this question has already been asked, but now that Berwyn is no longer a companion, does that mean a companion slot has opened up?
 

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I apologize if this question has already been asked, but now that Berwyn is no longer a companion, does that mean a companion slot has opened up?
No. Companions have always been 'one per trusted writer' and the removal of Berwyn changes nothing because his original author left and isn't coming back, and while B stepped up to give Berry a big sendoff plot-wise, he has a companion of his own. The only person left on the list of qualified writers who could have written one is William (planned companion: Mausthief Einin) and they missed the deadline. That cutoff was for the benefit of everybody, in terms of knowing which characters they'd need to account for in all of their own projects. Since William missed it, they don't get Einin as a companion (though she may be reworked as an NPC, potentially) and Viv is the last one who's going to be added to the game.
 

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I was at work, and now that I'm home I've been reading all your responses. It's interesting, to state the least.




Alright, I was leery of adding sex due to the nature of my planned submission, but I feel I should clarify what that actually is

I was thinking of adding an orphanage/school, with the added NPCs in question being the schoolmaster, (who I'm thinking of making a white haired bishonen with an athletic build, incidentally) and several children who you could have a few interactions with, like teaching them maths/reading etc or playing some sports. the money sink part would be from buying supplies/upgrading the school/dorms, like Gwyn's nursery

I feel this would make the world seem more real and would allow for consequences of Kassyra's invasion beyond the sexual - clearly people would be affected by this, and while its implied the demons do not harm children, it would make sense for there to be a safe place for those without parents or whose parents are away as the average civilians don't know that.

If sex is mandatory I'll work something in for the only adult here - the schoolmaster, as hopefully all of you know why I'm not even going to consider adding anything in for the students


And any feedback y'all have is appreciated, of course
This is very close thematically to Serena and the lyceum; you would be heavily overshadowed by the theme already being explored by Alypia who is a teacher herself. Khor'minos being the only location where there would be enough of a tradition of civic institutions to warrant an orphanage, but over there children are communally raised according to Wsan's lore, so an orphan would likely be taken in by a relative or neighbor.

That aside, there are some important points to take away from her execution of the idea:

-The children are not interactable NPCs in and of themselves, and only accessible through Serena.
-Serena herself is very sexable.

My suggestion here would be to add another teacher to the lyceum, instead of making your own thing. You would be able to explore the themes that you want to while having an established framework to go off on, especially for your first submission. It would require collaboration with Alypia to keep all the details straight, but from my perspective having the oversight of someone like her on your project is a good thing.
 

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I am not sure if I would say that Ryn dates as entirely positive example. Sure, they seem nice but they are locked behind you liking Ryn and being nice to her. Which, compared to stuff like most stations/safe spaces in TiTs, even the smallest ones, is not good compromise in my opinion.
Maybe two to three more NPCs with random events similar to those you can find in Hawktown when clicking explore would do the trick.
 

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I'd love to see a temple in the glacial rift with a ice themed elemental lupine(not sure can be ice elemental but I'd like to see it) kinda like the hellhound in the frostwood temple but id rather them to be male

Speaking of elemental lupines I'd really love to be able to become one
 

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I am not sure if I would say that Ryn dates as entirely positive example. Sure, they seem nice but they are locked behind you liking Ryn and being nice to her. Which, compared to stuff like most stations/safe spaces in TiTs, even the smallest ones, is not good compromise in my opinion.
Maybe two to three more NPCs with random events similar to those you can find in Hawktown when clicking explore would do the trick.
how can you not like ryn O-o
 

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how can you not like ryn O-o
Oh I like her.
My point is just that while Ryn dates can make the city feel more alive, they are not the best substitute for more towns folk or independent events (like the Winter City ball).
a) They are locked behind you finding Ryn sexually and romantically attractive.
b) they are at odds with people that want to keep their Ryn at low confidence since they raise it.
Like, Serena is not just her teacher date for example. She is established character with her own history, wants and needs on top of having a pretty fleshed out event. And as a character she is found in a bar that has its fleshed out atmosphere and owner. In a city that has many tiny events and NPCs. So even if I do not fancy her, which I do not as of now, I can still learn things about her and her city.

Basically, I just would like if winter city had just slightly more to it. Maybe 2/3 more NPCs, preferebly of everyman variety. Since all current 4 possible WC residents, all of them are some kind of Nobility or close to it. I would be kind of interested in how your average Joe lives through their everyday life. Their thoughts and opinions on current set of circumstances. The sudden change of authority would be quiet a shock, I would take it. Also, maybe some small events that you can access through explore button.
 
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a) They are locked behind you finding Ryn sexually and romantically attractive.
Funny thing is, I was not RPing as being romantically interested in her. It was actually rather a surprise to me when Ryn started acting that way towards me. I just did all that confidence-raising stuff because it seemed the right thing do to, as I liked to be nice towards my party members since they're sticking their neck out for me.
 
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Didnt want to make another TiTs starting "planet" where there is like , 15+ sexable NPCS.