What content would you like added?

[Animalistic]

I would like if there was a way to help Ryn raise her confidence without getting all romantic with her. I tried to raise it without fucking her once, I still end up forced into relationship with her. I feel sorry for her and I want to help her. I just do not find her appealing sexually so I guilty/grossed out whenever she kisses me.

 

[WolframL]

You can raise her Confidence without doing anything naughty with her (unless you consider cuddling to be naughty) and there's lots of one-off events that raise it so basically being nice to her and standing up for her will do a lot for her self-esteem. That said, you cannot have a confident Ryn who doesn't have feelings for the Champion for the exact same reason that your topic on Cait turned into a death spiral: She's a character and you the Champion do not get to dictate how she feels about you. You might as well drop this now because this is not discussion that will lead to a productive outcome.

 

[Animalistic]

You can raise her Confidence without doing anything naughty with her (unless you consider cuddling to be naughty) and there's lots of one-off events that raise it so basically being nice to her and standing up for her will do a lot for her self-esteem. That said, you cannot have a confident Ryn who doesn't have feelings for the Champion for the exact same reason that your topic on Cait turned into a death spiral: She's a character and you the Champion do not get to dictate how she feels about you. You might as well drop this now because this is not discussion that will lead to a productive outcome.

Ah, son of bitch. Well, now I feel guilty. I just hope that she is going to have happy end if we complete her quest with low confidence.

But I have to say, our champion is a real pushover.

 

[Karamaru]

It's the trickster part that makes me cautious of him specifically. In their interactions, Nareva and Mallach can be pretty well understood and feel more like regular people. Keros just makes me wary because I can't get a read on him. He clearly knows a lot but refuses to divulge information for any reason, probably for fun, and generally keeps his cards very close to his chest. Plus we only really have their word on what they'll do with the champion's soul specifically. I still trust the seven over Kasyrra, even with all that indoor plumbing and air conditioning she's got on offer.

To be fair, air conditioning and running water is pretty enticing.

Spoiler

But knowing Keros he probably hasn't played his last trick on us, probably one involving Kinu if I read the signs right.

 

[Animalistic]

To be fair, air conditioning and running water is pretty enticing.

Spoiler

But knowing Keros he probably hasn't played his last trick on us, probably one involving Kinu if I read the signs right.

That would not make sense from design perspective. Not everyone is going to possess that bargaining chip.

 

[Alypia]

Ah, son of bitch. Well, now I feel guilty. I just hope that she is going to have happy end if we complete her quest with low confidence.

Even Low-Con Ryn is into the Champ, but in a different way and for different reasons. Instead of being a confident, switchy elvenqueen who is happy that Champ has helped her to be better, she's thoroughly beaten-down and thinks that the Champ is the only one who gives her life any value.

You can't stop Ryn from caring about you. But nobody's railroaded into outright marrying her or anything. You can be friends, and she can love you like a friend. Or you can eventually be much, much more than friends.

 

[Magenta Needle]

Railroad Time !

Kitsune are "not japanese" right ? So why not adding a night event where they indulge in the ancestral tradition of Karaoke ?

 

[Paradox01]

Railroad Time !

Kitsune are "not japanese" right ? So why not adding a night event where they indulge in the ancestral tradition of Karaoke ?

Because there's no technology, the singers would have to be accompanied by live musicians.

That's just called "being in a cover band."

 

[Magenta Needle]

Fair enough, at least we are back to the topic.

 

[Animalistic]

Even Low-Con Ryn is into the Champ, but in a different way and for different reasons. Instead of being a confident, switchy elvenqueen who is happy that Champ has helped her to be better, she's thoroughly beaten-down and thinks that the Champ is the only one who gives her life any value.

You can't stop Ryn from caring about you. But nobody's railroaded into outright marrying her or anything. You can be friends, and she can love you like a friend. Or you can eventually be much, much more than friends.

I thought that if we keep her at low confidence, our champion sees her as nothing more then sexual relief tool. That is how I understood mostly.

 

[Karamaru]

That would not make sense from design perspective. Not everyone is going to possess that bargaining chip.

This is true

Back on topic: can we form more alliances with our Barony like make an alliance with the Kurokawa den and see Azami or another Kitsune NPC hang out in Wayfort?

 

[Alypia]

I thought that if we keep her at low confidence, our champion sees her as nothing more then sexual relief tool. That is how I understood mostly.

No, Ryn's Confidence doesn't determine Champ's emotions toward her. If authors discuss Champ's emotions, they usually only come in the context of what the scene is.

For example, in the service top scene, I wrote Champ as being a solicitous, attentive, caring lover because that's what service topping is. (Even DK Champ acts more or less this way, less out of interest in Ryn's emotions and more because, as I have Champ say, making somebody else cum is hot as fuck.) Champ acts this way regardless of how Confident Ryn is; if Ryn is low-Confidence she needs the boost, and if Ryn is high-Confidence she's excited about receiving and promises Champ she'll reciprocate as soon as she can. Or, from another perspective, the Festivus Ball. If Champ goes to dance with Ryn at the ball, I treat Champ's emotions like, well, a commoner/minor noble being asked to dance with a princess in a Disney movie. If Champ decides to pair off with Ryn at the end of the evening rather than listening to the elfsong of the valkyries or going with Hethia or Elthara or Kasyrra, I assume that Champ has a particularly strong romantic relationship with Ryn and have them act excited and loving, and so on, because if you didn't care about her, why would you go out to have private sexy time in the gardens with her at the end of the evening? The tooltips that I make are intended to give players an idea of what kinds of emotions their Champ will be expressing in a given scene.

But there are obviously scenes, like ruining Ryn or monstrously assboning her or bullying her by frotting her cage, that have Champ act in a different way, because why would you do those things if you cared about her? Same energy, mutatis mutandis.

And in none of these cases does Champ get locked into saying that they actually love Ryn, because nobody can say that yet. Eventually, that might change. But either way, you can raise her Confidence without committing to A Relationship with her, but she will still hold Champ to be one of her closest, dearest friends.

Hopefully that helps! I think that all that comes through okay in the writing, but I'm always open to suggestions for personal improvement.

 

[Undecided]

Back on topic: can we form more alliances with our Barony like make an alliance with the Kurokawa den and see Azami or another Kitsune NPC hang out in Wayfort

As much as it'd be great to have alliances, the likelihood that anyone would want to be formally aligned with the PC at this point in time (in-game) is pretty slim.
Especially if we're talking about the Kitsune - it'd most definitely go against their ideology (including point of being in the Frost Marches) and pride (looking at you Nakano) for that matter. The feeling that is mostly gleamed from interactions with them is that they just tolerate you - any more than that is likely asking for too much.

I think the PC would have to get more powerful, and prove themselves more before any alliances would likely be formed. Probably sometime in Tychris (CoM depending) or the like (such as after Act 2 potentially).

 

[Karamaru]

As much as it'd be great to have alliances, the likelihood that anyone would want to be formally aligned with the PC at this point in time (in-game) is pretty slim.
Especially if we're talking about the Kitsune - it'd most definitely go against their ideology (including point of being in the Frost Marches) and pride (looking at you Nakano) for that matter. The feeling that is mostly gleamed from interactions with them is that they just tolerate you - any more than that is likely asking for too much.

I think the PC would have to get more powerful, and prove themselves more before any alliances would likely be formed. Probably sometime in Tychris (CoM depending) or the like (such as after Act 2 potentially).

Oh, for sure I would not expect it to happen right after we got the crumbling ruin, but maybe after we made a name for ourselves.

 

[DaisukeKaiser]

Or you can eventually be much, much more than friends.

Quit teasing us. I wanna marry Ryn so fucking bad it hurts.

 

[Animalistic]

No, Ryn's Confidence doesn't determine Champ's emotions toward her. If authors discuss Champ's emotions, they usually only come in the context of what the scene is.

For example, in the service top scene, I wrote Champ as being a solicitous, attentive, caring lover because that's what service topping is. (Even DK Champ acts more or less this way, less out of interest in Ryn's emotions and more because, as I have Champ say, making somebody else cum is hot as fuck.) Champ acts this way regardless of how Confident Ryn is; if Ryn is low-Confidence she needs the boost, and if Ryn is high-Confidence she's excited about receiving and promises Champ she'll reciprocate as soon as she can. Or, from another perspective, the Festivus Ball. If Champ goes to dance with Ryn at the ball, I treat Champ's emotions like, well, a commoner/minor noble being asked to dance with a princess in a Disney movie. If Champ decides to pair off with Ryn at the end of the evening rather than listening to the elfsong of the valkyries or going with Hethia or Elthara or Kasyrra, I assume that Champ has a particularly strong romantic relationship with Ryn and have them act excited and loving, and so on, because if you didn't care about her, why would you go out to have private sexy time in the gardens with her at the end of the evening? The tooltips that I make are intended to give players an idea of what kinds of emotions their Champ will be expressing in a given scene.

But there are obviously scenes, like ruining Ryn or monstrously assboning her or bullying her by frotting her cage, that have Champ act in a different way, because why would you do those things if you cared about her? Same energy, mutatis mutandis.

And in none of these cases does Champ get locked into saying that they actually love Ryn, because nobody can say that yet. You can raise her Confidence without committing to A Relationship with her, but she will still hold Champ to be one of her closest, dearest friends.

Hopefully that helps! I think that all that comes through okay in the writing, but I'm always open to suggestions for personal improvement.

Oh no I understand. You explained everything perfectly. I know that different scenes can take and give confidence. Every one represents different role our champion takes.
I am just not a fan of that we can not turn down her advances . I know that she is her own character and all, but I am personally not comfortable with to much casual kissing. Especially in front of people. So yeah, I will try her low confidence route to avoid getting to close to her. Since I never tried it personally. From what I understand, she does not force herself on you there.

 

[WolframL]

Or you can eventually be much, much more than friends.

Since there isn't a 'gushing about the newest content' topic, this seems to be the perfect opportunity to bring up something from the latest patch:



Hethia, I don't make fun of you and your obviously repressed feelings for Elthara, don't you make fun of Ryn's feelings for my Champ.

Such glorious teasing...

 

[Animalistic]

Since there isn't a 'gushing about the newest content' topic, this seems to be the perfect opportunity to bring up something from the latest patch:

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Hethia, I don't make fun of you and your obviously repressed feelings for Elthara, don't you make fun of Ryn's feelings for my Champ.

Such glorious teasing...

Wait, when does that happen? Those are types of things that want me to say "mind your own business."

 

[WolframL]

Oh cool your damned jets, you can refuse the offer if you really want to and Ryn's reaction to you accepting only comes out that way if she has high Confidence anyways, because you have obviously been doing things to deepen your relationship to get her to that point.

 

[Alypia]

Wait, when does that happen? Those are types of things that want me to say "mind your own business."

You could also get her Confidence between 25 and 74. So she isn't a helpless, bullied waif, but also doesn't go super hard on the affection.

 

[Undecided]

Possibly a "Donate X" option for the Nursery, or an option to donate the funds required for all the renovations.
I understand the narrative reason for the renovations to be done in stages, but if someone has the funds available from either *ahem* unsavory means or just from farming the Glacial Rifts, it can be a tad irritating having to wait a day or so each time only to be able to donate a limited amount.

I find that by the time I have the funds available, only being restricted to 10000 EC per time results in it being around 26 days to get the fully renovated Nursery.
Which I suppose from a narrative sense is perfectly valid, but maybe providing an option for an upfront donation to fully fund all the renovations would result in one not having to do the donations every day.
I'd be fine with the renovations time still taking 26 days, I just want a quality of life change if anything.

I presume it probably won't be changed though (as most of Gwyn's content has been said to be completed already and presumably not going to be revisited), I just felt it worth mentioning anyway (wishful thinking and all that).

 

[Animalistic]

Possibly a "Donate X" option for the Nursery, or an option to donate the funds needed for all the renovations.
I understand the narrative reason for the renovations to be done in stages, but if someone has the funds available from either *ahem* unsavory means or just from farming the Glacial Rifts, it can be a tad irritating having to wait a day or so each time only to be able to donate a limited amount.

I find that by the time I have the funds available only being restricted to 10000 EC per time results in it being around 26 days to get the fully renovated Nursery.
Which I suppose from a narrative sense is perfectly valid, but maybe giving an option for an upfront donation to fully fund all the renovations would result in one not having to do the donations every day.
I'd be fine with the renovations time still taking 26 days, I just want a quality of life change if anything.

I presume it probably won't be changed though (as most of Gwyn's content has been said to be completed already and presumably not going to be revisited) - just felt it worth mentioning anyway (wishful thinking and all that).

And with that, give as a way to give exact money needed to upgrade it.

 

[Animalistic]

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Thank you!

You could also get her Confidence between 25 and 74. So she isn't a helpless, bullied waif, but also doesn't go super hard on the affection.

... I forgot that that was also an option. While not what I had in mind, it seems like a good middle ground. Thank you! Will try.

 

[nostalgicwalker]

Just 1 more bimbo companion. Just so I could have a full party of bimbo characters. I think Azzy is the only one though.

 

[Tide Hunter]

Just 1 more bimbo companion. Just so I could have a full party of bimbo characters. I think Azzy is the only one though.

The excuse given for Azzy is that her bimbo status is caused by a magical gem that was both purified/blessed by a god and filled with corruption and this allows her to maintain combat effectiveness despite the bimboification. Personally I don't really like that it's something they feel they have to justify, given that the pc can be bimbo'd and also totally fine in combat, and while the hornets we fight in the forest are weak, they're effective fighters in the early game. So like, you shouldn't need to give some convoluted explanation for how this one companion can be bimbo'd and still fight given that bimboification has never actually gotten in the way of fighting capability in these games. But given that she presently has a specific excuse for it, and also given that, at present, there's only one more companion planned, and they're a thief archetype, I doubt we'll get another bimbo.

 

[Wint3rRyd3r]

The excuse given for Azzy is that her bimbo status is caused by a magical gem that was both purified/blessed by a god and filled with corruption and this allows her to maintain combat effectiveness despite the bimboification. Personally I don't really like that it's something they feel they have to justify, given that the pc can be bimbo'd and also totally fine in combat, and while the hornets we fight in the forest are weak, they're effective fighters in the early game. So like, you shouldn't need to give some convoluted explanation for how this one companion can be bimbo'd and still fight given that bimboification has never actually gotten in the way of fighting capability in these games. But given that she presently has a specific excuse for it, and also given that, at present, there's only one more companion planned, and they're a thief archetype, I doubt we'll get another bimbo.

I think the difference is the honey has a high concentration Kas's Corrupted Goodness™ so throwing her in there exposes her to more corruption and bimbofication than the other hornets so it's more extreme and pronounced.

 

[LiteratureTraveler]

This may be an unpopular opinion but some content I would like to see is more interaction amongst the male companions as well as male npc to create relationships.

Now hear me out, as a female playing Feno games, I really do appreciate that there is a game like this, super nice and very up to date. However, as I play through the game, you kind of notice how the game more or less leans toward the male demographic as there are many female npcs and companions who you can interact with and go further with when it comes to doing the dirty. I do appreciate the interactions such as Brint and Garret and Brewyn and Quin, however when you compare how many interactions they have compared to characters such as Cait, Arona, Kiyoko, etc..., us female players really have a limited pool on interactions that leans towards us. I kept eye in this forum and notice how people would ask for more interaction scenes (both bonding and romance) with NPCs like Nakano or Kazuo (examples of a few I saw) and possibly even making some of them companions to romance and possibly marry which I am not against. I do know there are errors for doing this such as for the NPC Nakano as he is essential for the Kinu story arc, but again I saw in the forum how someone said this only applied for a male PC. If possible, this can be worked around so that a female PC would have the ability to romance an NPC such as Nakano or any future NPC with the same criteria. This is not saying that I do not like the many interactions amongst the female companions and NPCs, however, there are some female players like me who wish to see some more story lean towards our interest among the males of the game. The interaction is very minimal and would love to see more content where we can have more romances if possible. There may be members of this forum who may not agree with my option on this, but again I just want to give my opinion to what I would like to see as someone who has played the games for a while now and the same thing I see as a female player are more and more updates towards the male demographic.

This feels like a TED talk lmao but I just wanted to give my own perspective on what content I would like to see which was very wordy but reasonable as these opinions things I had at the back of my head everytime I pop up the game to play.

 

[WolframL]

Given the current discussion, I'll add something I'd love: More Boomer content, whether it's just him and the Champ or Cait and/or Ryn are involved.

I do know there are errors for doing this such as for the NPC Nakano as he is essential for the Kinu story arc, but again I saw in the forum how someone said this only applied for a male PC. If possible, this can be worked around so that a female PC would have the ability to romance an NPC such as Nakano or any future NPC with the same criteria.

The thing with Nakano isn't just male Champs, it's the fact that since he and Hitoshi are Kinu's potential spouses they're basically locked out of sexy funtimes with the Champion, because having sex with someone who might become your future son-in-law is super awkward. While I imagine it would be technically possible for the game to know that Kinu is freed and either of those two isn't her intended and thus 'free' for non-squicky Champion sex, Tobs doesn't seem interested in writing that kind of thing. In fact, it's pretty much nixed by the stated plan to do an expansion where you can help Rindo hook up with the suitor that Kinu doesn't end up with.

There may be members of this forum who may not agree with my option on this, but again I just want to give my opinion to what I would like to see as someone who has played the games for a while now and the same thing I see as a female player are more and more updates towards the male demographic.

And you wouldn't be the first person with that sentiment, nothing wrong with that at all. As Malidica said, it's mainly because the writers prefer doing female characters, plus by every metric they have available the majority of the player base shares that general preference. Hence, while you'll get well-written male characters there are always going to be lots more females (with or without penises) due to both writer preference and general player demand.

That said, B just announced plans for a new male NPC that will be part of Khor'minos and if you take a sneak peak at the folder where the game stores its art assets you can see at least one other character with planned future content, though they've only barely appeared onscreen thus far. And if you cheat even further and look at Moira's Twitter account there seems to be another male NPC being set up as part of Tychris. So it's not that there won't be any more male characters, just that they're going to be outnumbered by the female ones.

 

[Number13]

Why is it my first thought when you asked for more Boomer content was "Ok Boomer" -_-'

On another note, I would like to see some locations or people in the future be influenced by Mesoamerican or Polynesian cultures.

 

[The Observer]

The Avanai have Mesomaerican influence because of shameless Starbound rip-offing, but they will not play a big part in this game.