What content would you like added?

Discussion in 'Corruption of Champions II' started by Raindrops, Apr 1, 2018.

  1. Wsan

    Wsan Well-Known Member
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    There's a line I have to tread where my male companion is in danger of being perceived as an actual threat to the PC's power fantasy both by way of his mechanics (Brint is a beast in combat) and by way of fucking your party members and the people who want him to pound them out, fuck your companions, treat you like a friendly harem, etc. There IS a middle ground, but it does mean I have to compromise on some things like this. That said I am definitely planning and have already half-written a bunch of stuff for group content for Brint dominating you and Etheryn at the same time, and I'm always thinking of more companion stuff to write. Arona's due soon, and they'll probably have some fun scenes together.
     
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  2. RedIce2112

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    maybe some type of toggle to allow for cross companion scenes or not or just make it obvious what the scene is about committing going into it
     
  3. LonelyHydra

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    I think you're doing pretty good so far, and can't wait for more scenes.

    But if I know my harem comedies, this is going to end in a competition to be Brint's best boy/girl, isn't it?
     
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  4. Shadow Dancer

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    I don't think you need to worry about that, because the people who perceive Brint that way will turn him into Brienne.
     
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  5. Wsan

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    The ideal, though, is that we're good enough to write around that. Having a toggle would feel cheap in this grey area, though I did once do a toggle in TiTS for a character fucking the rest of your crew.

    If I get to write a harem comedy I swear to god I'll make the childhood friend win for once. JUST ONCE. But the PC can come too.

    Part of the reason I made her.
     
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  6. Malidica

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    Amber? That always felt arbitrary to me, of course i'm going to let her and others sleep together, i don't own her, she's free to make her own decisions about her choice in sexual partners. Geck to expecting otherwise. Why'd you feel it was necessary?
     
  7. Wsan

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    When you play CoC2, it's kind of an implicit acceptance that you're okay with your companions doing whatever -- the game is built that way, and the very first girl you meet literally tells you she's going to be doing as much (some people don't like her for this, but that's a separate issue). TiTS is very, very different. You are the Chosen One, genetically designed to be a badass winner, and you do everything your damn self. That's how the game is sold to you, and it's why people get fucking pissed when they're railroaded into something they can't win (like Dr. Badger or that yakuza NPC). The community clowns on these people without ever looking deeper into the expectations the game creates vs the delivery. So in TiTS, I made a toggle because it's more of an individualistic game. Maybe you don't want your hard-earned conquests fucking each other, that's a valid way to think about a porn game in which you're the sole main character.
     
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  8. Malidica

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    Interesting, i guess it'd be a form of gatekeeping for me to expect everyone to see things the way i do, i've just never enjoyed imagining myself in a game-world where i get to force my opinions on someone else's romantic and sexual choices, it feels rather juvenile and insecure to expect sole rights to someone genitals (edit: i mean, not while i can keep sleeping around) but i guess some people must enjoy the feeling of control they get from shackling their waifu's into monogamy to the player. It's actually one of the things i love about TiTS and CoC I/II, that sense of freedom of sexual interest, to enjoy many people who are themselves enjoying whomever they fancy, i wish the real world had that kind of tendency.
     
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  9. Alypia

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    Imagine trying to enforce that in a game like this.
     
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  10. Malidica

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    Oh of course not, but, that's kind of my point, it's impractical along with being a nasty view of love, if i can fuck around but my partners can't... i'm a dick.
     
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  11. Savin

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    That's basically my take on it, too. Expecting monogamy from NPCs without doing anything to earn it nor getting their consent to fuck around on them gives me megaskeevy vibes. If a given NPC doesn't want to sleep around that's great but getting pissy that somebody's not giving you what you won't give them is indeed preeeeetty juvenile imho.

    We could, actually, pretty easily. It would just be the least fun experience ever envisioned by humankind.
     
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  12. Fleep

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    I'm not poly and wouldn't really like it if they "forced" you to let your gf be fucking around, but for me the companions don't feel that way. For me they feel like very close friends with benefits and that means they can fuck around as much as they want, same as I do. (It's not like if it was Kyoko he es fucking you know, it's not the same kind of relationship).

    I usually turn Brint into Brienne but just because I'm not into males and would rather have a sexy cow girl with me, but I still really like Brint (I'm actually even considering not giving him the armor this playthrough) He seems like a cool guy, a best friend to share you demonic threesomes with and then have some laughs about it while drinking at the tavern.

    Maybe it has something to do with the fact that I never actually fuck him, but I don't get the feeling of him fucking your companions like he is taking them away for you. It feels more, like I said, like you are just a group of horny friends with benefits, so there's no exclusivity (It wouldn't even make sense for someone like Cait to have it). So I would say he is pretty well done so far.
     
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  13. Aelana

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    Yeah, I usually am not into the manly man 'Thing' but brint fucking sold me on it. He just has the nice part of the 'Jock' archetypes, while also generally being a nice person to be around. His flexing did not come across to me as a juvenile dick-measuring contest, but just something fun to do, regardless of who wins.

    So far I haven't given him the armor, because his Brienne content did not feel as developed (it was months ago). I eventually check out the new content and I am interested in how it reads. Part of brienne read a bit like 'pc feels potentially threatened by brint, so you can take away his dick'. That's not to bash brienne. I just want her big, strong hands to take the lead. But if that does not happen because not everything will be specifically wri5en for me, then I gladly settle with brint.

    And his dick.
     
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  14. Alypia

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    I also like the way things are now. The team seems to have hit a good balance and none of the niche content seems like it's being forced on the player. Some characters fuck around and others don't really, and both things are fine in the context of a bunch of fuckbuddy friends out to save the world.

    Like, I usually play pure, goody-two-shoes fem!Champs. I don't really have an interest in collecting 'em all or dictating companions' sex lives. The "friendly fuckbuddy" thing, with genuine emotional intimacy in specific relationships, works out pretty well for me.

    I mean, it'd work out better with the fabled magicock, but I know and appreciate that the writers and coders already have a lot on their plate.
    Hmm. Maybe with room for variations on a theme, too. I just got an image in my head of max-Confidence max-sausage Queen Ryn ordering up a scepter-polishing by Brienne, Extra Curvy fem!Champ, and Thicc Cait. With lots and lots of boob smish.

    Goddammit, thinking about hypothetical distant content is unhealthy.
    Yeah.
    Sure. I meant in a behavioral sense, not a technical sense. There would be salt.

    Like, imagine a Bad End like, say, the Winter City actually enforcing punishments for adultery. The outcry would be legendary. "But why can't I massacre all of the guards and make all the elves into my personal harem???? PLAYER AGENCY!!!11"

    Not that I'd actually enjoy seeing it, but it's funny to think about - for me, at least.
     
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  15. Shadow5

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    I'm going to very carefully dip my toe into the water on the discussion about the characters/relationships. Bear in mind I'm speaking only about myself and myself alone. I'm not saying anyone should agree or disagree with me, just that I'm approaching this from my own headspace.

    I'm monogamous IRL. I play CoC2 with my main as I would if I were them. I actually appreciated Cait outright saying (paraphrasing), "Hey, just so you know, I'm going to be sleeping around. It's part of my religion so, you cool with that?" She explained why she felt like that, cared enough to not hurt my feelings, and therefore showed respect to my character as a friend. That to me is exactly what made me start to like this game. As written, the NPCs (so far all of the persistent ones I think, including the companions) actually cared about me and each other. Each of the characters feel like they have agency in the game away from my own character. Brint, Cait, Etheryn, Quin, etc. feel like living characters who do what they what whenever they want (especially if I spend a few days at our home with Kiyoko I hope). They're my battle brothers/sisters and we stand together against Kasyrra and the enemies that come against us. In no way do I feel obligated to have anything more than a friendship with them, nor do they try and force that for good or bad, and that's awesome.

    I don't have sex with defeated enemies as that just doesn't feel right to me. Until my main met Kiyoko, he had a monogamous (on his side obviously) relationship with Cait. However, after things got serious with Kiyoko (going from just trying to free her to actually falling in love) and them having children, it didn't feel right to continue with Cait. The game didn't punish me at all for stopping that, and I loved that. Kiyoko is from a promiscuous race based on the way that they feed and their view on reciprocity in payment for feeding, but Kiyoko doesn't seem to follow that after she becomes committed to the Champion, and then marries them. She seems to be in a monogamous relationship with them, and even both giving permission to the champion to be or, to not being a benefactor to other Kitsune. Again, characters written with free agency and will, and personalities that make sense.

    I appreciate a game that gives me the option to play exactly as I want and doesn't penalize me for it. I can spin up a different character to see what I'm missing if want to or not. I can even play my main as a minstrel/charmer who never uses lust based attacks/spells and will wade in when necessary to actually fight with swords, and can still mop the floor with my enemies, the game gives me permission to play it as I want to and doesn't judge me for it.

    If CoC2 lost that freedom, I'd be sorely disappointed. The fact that players who have so many varied kinks and views on relationships can enjoy the same game says a lot about the authors and devs, and I applaud them for it and hope they continue staying the course. Because of them and what they've done, I hope to begin writing content for the game someday, because I feel like I could contribute and not be judged (too harshly) by anyone else.
     
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  16. theblacksmith

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    Obviously monogamous relationships can't be enforced during gameplay for the many reasons listed above. Still, the writing team can't put massive amounts of time, effort, and passion into these characters and expect us to not get especially attached to them. I'd absolutely love it if, at the end of the game, you had the option to pick one person to settle down with, and then got a unique epilogue detailing how they and the Champion spent the rest of their lives together. Choosing a lifelong partner doesn't strike me as being too different gameplay-wise from binding yourself to Keros or one of the other Seven.
     
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  17. Tide Hunter

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    Speaking of binding yourself to Keros or the other Living Gods, I wonder if binding yourself to more of the gods is planned? There's something sort of like that, since, after the Convocation of Mirrors, you get a locket that, like the Amulet of Transference, lets you summon someone to help you, who's a member of a ruling class of race tied to a god who was trapped from the time of the Godswar, lacking a physical body (As it had been destroyed), and also lets you visit that person within the realm of the god the amulet is tied to when you go to sleep. So, I'm assuming that if you truly get to "bind" yourself to some other god, Nareva may be the next planned, though it likely won't be to transform into a Salamander as there's Cinderleaf and Frostleaf, nor will it be to become an elf because, again, transformatives, nor even a naga because, from what I remember, it was decided that, in CoC2 the player would not be able to become a naga or a centaur, or others with an abnormal lower body. I'm just interested in if we'll be able to bind ourselves to any of the gods aside from Keros, and what that'll take the form of.
     
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  18. Shadow Dancer

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    That would be really awkward if the PC is married to multiple characters.

    Edit especially if you pick someone you're not married to.
     
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  19. Aury

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    “Eeny meeny miney mo- what? How else would I decide?”
     
  20. WolframL

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    Per the wiki, there are (or were at the time the entry was made by The Observer) at least three potential divine TFs: Keros, Velun and Lumia. Savin mentions in this topic that not all of the Seven are likely to be involved in the plot/grant TFs and even the writers don't know what they'd all grant. That said, we know that Lumia's wiki-described TF is in the game in the form of planned Valkyrie encounters (mentioned as part of the 'north of the Winter City' expansion for the future) so it seems reasonable to assume that TF is more likely than not to become A Thing at some point.
     
  21. Evil

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    Why settle for just one? You could have a cat wife, a kitsune wife, a minotaur spouse, dogboy husband, orc wife, dullahan wife, elf wife and three catgirls are live-in maids.
     
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  22. ShifterDreams

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    I wanna know what a protenal Nareva gothmander tf would look like maybe perhaps a black scaled with blue fire or shadow like fire ohhh I really wanna know (and I really want a black scaled salamander now)
     
  23. theblacksmith

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    That's why I qualified it as an option and not a requirement, of course plenty of people are going to want their entire harem. But the problem then is that no writing team on earth could possibly account for every single possible permutation of said harem, so it would probably end up as a generic ending with a bunch of if-else statements checking for individual members. I'm talking about stuff that couldn't reasonably be added to the game, like settling down as the patriarch of the Otomo clan and working as an ambassador to The Old Country, or becoming King of the Winter City and ruling over it with Ryn for the next thousand years.

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  24. Alypia

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    Speaking of things involving fire and scales, Garth mentions "drakes" in a Day 0 conversation. Are those for the eventual high mountain/harpy nest zone?
     
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  25. Malidica

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    Hmmmm... may i waifu this one?
     
  26. Upcast Drake

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    I bet she drops some sick vambraces.
     
  27. Starstruck

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    You joke but we desperately need something new and/or more potent to wear in that slot... I'm not sure I'm willing to go quite that far for it though. xD
     
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  28. Tristan Black

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    Hm. I kinda liked having chitinous hands/feet in CoC1. Maybe I should play with that look again...
     
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  29. Upcast Drake

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    Black d'hide isn't cheap
     
  30. ShifterDreams

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    I love the picture I'd so adore a waifu that looks like her <3
    Oh and I'd like one change to Frostleaf version of the salamander tf white scales to match the white hair it gives it would suit my frostmander just like black scales would suit my fire salamander (perhaps gothmander has a option for both? If there's ever a chance it gets added)