What content would you like added?

[TheInfamousImmortal]

You see, TF is a fetish, same as any other; we're not going to give you special combat abilities for being the biggest broodmare or having the most anal sex in Savarra. If we mechanically reward certain TFs, then we're inherently punishing you for NOT taking the most optimal transformation path for your build -- meaning that you're disadvantaging yourself for playing the character you actually WANT to play. That's awful game design.

I can understand that logic and agree with it but only to a certain extent. To me it begs the question, what's the point of having a scorpion tail if you can't use it how nature intended it to be used to stab and poison? What's the point of having wings if you can't use them to fly? Why do all the enemies get to have these advantages but for us they're simply just props?

I really don't think there would be a balancing issue in CoC2 considering we already have a hard limit on the number of abilities can have in combat, a hard limit on their uses in battle, a hard limit in their duration, and a recharge rate. We could be a chimera all we want, but we will always be limited to one TF perk slot (at will or maybe a recharge slot) and there's no way to get around that hard cap unless we mod the game which I know you've said hell no to.

I would say that's WAY more balanced then what TiTs does considering you have NO limit on the abilities you can have in combat and the majority of them have no use limit or cool down and basically allows you become this unstoppable tank and crushing everything in your path. I also remember CoC1 TF perks being fuck busted for having the same problems, there was no use limit or limit to the amount you could have in combat.

 

[Lone Wolf115]

I also remember CoC1 TF perks being fuck busted for having the same problems, there was no use limit or limit to the amount you could have in combat.

Being a cat-morph and licking yourself, wonder if Cait could do that and put on a show for you, and vise versa for Brint if you're a Catfolk.

 

[wery12345]

Yeah the only TF with "benefits" are ones that give tail whip and Kitsune that gives foxfire(and fuck me if I know if that scales), and both of those dont really do much damage(at least for my build). Cant think of any other TF giving abilities then that.

 

[WolframL]

what's the point of having a scorpion tail if you can't use it how nature intended it to be used to stab and poison? What's the point of having wings if you can't use them to fly?

I really don't think there would be a balancing issue in CoC2 considering we already have a hard limit on the number of abilities can have in combat

It's really not the Power limit, it's the Powers themselves. Flight as it works mechanically for the enemy is literally free Evasion that could trivialize a lot of fights if given to the player. As the devs have said time and again, giving you that kind of perk at all acts to either incentivize you to use TFs you might not want for the gameplay advantages or punish you for not using them, depending on whether the game is balanced around you having that ability or not. CoC1 did not balance around TF perks, hence they were game-breaking.

You really can't have it both ways though, because if you don't balance for them you have ways to trivialize gameplay via TFing but if you do balance, you're punishing players for not using those same TFs by making the game harder than it's intended to be.

Also, I'm pretty sure that the manticore tail already does grant Tail Whack and inflicts Acid-type damage so you've already got your (deliberately balanced) power for that TF.

 

[TheInfamousImmortal]

Being a cat-morph and licking yourself, wonder if Cait could do that and put on a show for you, and vise versa for Brint if you're a Catfolk.

Passive TF perks like flexibility I would regulate to racial and body type score. If you're a thin and lean cat person you're able to keep it but if you fall below the racial requirements or if you're just massive then obviously you should lose the perk.

 

[Savin]

what's the point of having a scorpion tail if you can't use it how nature intended it to be used to stab and poison? What's the point of having wings if you can't use them to fly?

Cosmetics. That is as far as I give a shit about TFs and ever will.

 

[TheInfamousImmortal]

Flight as it works mechanically for the enemy is literally free Evasion that could trivialize a lot of fights if given to the player.

The way I would balance flight would be while you do gain an evasion bonus you also become unsteady, thus your accuracy takes a hit and possibly you also become easier to knock you off balance because you forfeited solid ground.

It's really not hard to think about TF perk pro's and con's which is something CoC1 did not do, it was basically all pro's but no or meaningless con's

 

[Skandranon]

What i really want is ability to eat those cookies Kas baked!

I thought I was going crazy when I saw the cookies just sitting there in the scene description constantly, but no way to eat them or pick them up.

 

[Lone Wolf115]

I thought I was going crazy when I saw the cookies just sitting there in the scene description constantly, but no way to eat them or pick them up.

The secret ingredient is

Spoiler

cum

and her very own mommy milk.

Edit: I'd love to get more of the wine from her, the wine from her Halloween event.

 

[mikethor007]

The secret ingredient is

Spoiler

cum

and her very own mommy milk.

Edit: I'd love to get more of the wine from her, the wine from her Halloween event.

You can get more at the midwinter festivus ball.

Being a cat-morph and licking yourself, wonder if Cait could do that and put on a show for you, and vise versa for Brint if you're a Catfolk.

I can only think of the massive hairballs that would ensue.

 

[Lone Wolf115]

You can get more at the midwinter festivus ball.

Thx, but I meant out side of holidays, like maybe you trade sex for em idk, what exactly she would use the electrum for melt them into piercings.

 

[mikethor007]

Thx, but I meant out side of holidays, like maybe you trade sex for em idk, what exactly she would use the electrum for melt them into piercings.

Ahhh, yes. According to the wiki, there's no more sources other than holidays. Perhaps another way could be added now that the Palace is in place.

 

[Lone Wolf115]

I want to know more about the painted demon, or demons, and for all the sex options to be available when you are full corrupted.

 

[CboyC95]

Descriptions of attacks and buffs as they play out during combat like in more previous versions.

 

[kiby]

Also, I'm pretty sure that the manticore tail already does grant Tail Whack and inflicts Acid-type damage so you've already got your (deliberately balanced) power for that TF.

It does. The various tail types modify Tail Whack's element.

Special Type: Fire (Fire Tail)
Ice (Ice Tail)
Tease (Fluffy Tail)
Acid (Chitin Tail)

 

[SmithEK]

This is why i don't see the point in TFs unless they are given by one of the seven or Evergreen. You don't get anything out of it but cosmetic change, to me that is pointless especially as you don't actually count as the species/race to want to transform into. CoC had it better with the TFs, Kitsune was a lot better as well if you became one you got your very own star sphere. Also if you had wings, in some scenes you could actuallu use them

 

[Bast]

What do you mean with "you don't even count as the species"?

 

[zagzig]

What do you mean with "you don't even count as the species"?

You're not the species you tf into on the inside. For example, if you tf into a Boreal Elf, you don't get the enhanced lifespan of the Boreal Elves, you still have the lifespan of your original race.

 

[Bast]

Ah, I see.

 

[BadDragoon]

I want more meaningful TFs as well. I understand that limiting most TFs to being cosmetics only is to prevent min-maxing & make balancing easier but to make it so that the PC never actually become the race that they want to transform into really kills my interest in the TFs personally. When I choose to transform into something I want to become the real deal and not a "fake" which is why all my PCs are either Kitsunes (I know they're not "real" Kitsunes but it's still a meaningful TF) or different varieties of Wyld Elves.
If it were up to me I would embrace the fantasy of races having their different strengths and weaknesses. For example a PC fully transforming into a Minotaur would gain a bonus to Strength and Toughness & malus to Agility while a fully transformed Mouse-folk would get a bonus to Agility and Cunning & malus to Toughness. Chimeras would gain no bonuses & maluses to prevent min-maxing.

 

[wery12345]

Pretty sure the Kitsune star sphere was modded CoC not base, so I dont know why you would bring it up?

 

[Tide Hunter]

which is why all my PCs are either Kitsunes (I know they're not "real" Kitsunes but it's still a meaningful TF)

I do believe that God TFs, like the Kitsune TF, are much deeper than other TFs. After all, Kiyoko laments how your lifespan will not match hers, but if you speak after the Kitsune TF, she'll mention how now your lifespan will match her own. Along with that, I think you're getting connected to the communal soul in exchange for giving up your own, along with getting a personal imitation to trick demons, though I'm not sure. So, I think that the pc does, essentially, become a real kitsune, unlike with other tfs.

If it were up to me I would embrace the fantasy of races having their different strengths and weaknesses. For example a PC fully transforming into a Minotaur would gain a bonus to Strength and Toughness & malus to Agility while a fully transformed Mouse-folk would get a bonus to Agility and Cunning & malus to Toughness. Chimeras would gain no bonuses & maluses to prevent min-maxing.

Race does actually impact your pc's affinities. It usually doesn't come up, but if you're another race, your affinities change, like how Minotaurs have affinities for Strength, Toughness, and Agility, and Cowgirls have affinities for Toughness, Cunning, and Presence. Of course, since you also have affinities based on your class and background, unless you're using an affinity which is only tied to your race and then you change your race (like I did with one of my characters) you're unlikely to notice the change. It is not a bonus, but rather, it's affinities, so it just impacts what you can increase by 3 when leveling up. Also it would be weird for Minos to get a penalty to agility when that's one of their affinities.

Personally, I do want tfs to be more meaningful than they are, but I do not want them to give a stat bonus or penalty. Stat bonuses/penalties would incentivize people to pick certain tfs, not because they want to be the thing, but rather because statstick. And unlike CoC, where tf usage and abuse could be seen as fitting in narratively, since it shows the pc is adapting to the corrupted world and using what they find to morph their body and become stronger, here there's never really been a narrative justification for tf'ing for strength, only for personal taste, except with any god tfs. I do want roleplay effects from tfs, things like a big fluffy mane from a hypothetical lion tf, more characters acting or reaction differently if you're a certain race (Like how Kiyoko's Play Tag sex scene needs you to be a Lupine, or how you can walk through the Orc camp without a disguise in Right of Conquest if you're an Orc, or how you can jump straight to fucking Hashat if you're an elf), but I don't want combat to be affected by race. The mere fact that there's stat affinities based on race and you get a bonus to a stat from picking certain starting races already has a heavy impact on combat based on your race.

 

[runingman69]

Kas dream palace ideas that I would love to see! Frotting Kas, thigh fucks aka the champ get's a thigh fuck or fucks Kas's thighs. Face sitting, tit fucks, breeding stocks gang bang, aka Kas and her goons rut the champ in some stocks. Dick worship, Anal scenes giving and or receiving.

 

[wery12345]

Yeah the PC does become a kitsune but just isnt full blooded yet due to the whole sticking our dick in anything with a pulse as a safety measure, kitsune can only sire Kitsune and all that. There multiple dialogues about how the PC by all means is not complete due to the decoy and Keros having the foresite to not completely fullblood you.

 

[Lone Wolf115]

Yeah the PC does become a kitsune but just isnt full blooded yet due to the whole sticking our dick in anything with a pulse as a safety measure, kitsune can only sire Kitsune and all that. There multiple dialogues about how the PC by all means is not complete due to the decoy and Keros having the foresite to not completely fullblood you.

Well it's for story and soul crystallization reasons.

 

[Ria Brew]

As cool as it'd be for them to have some level of minor function, I would just simply like more TF's referenced in scenes contextually. I completely forgot one of my characters had wings cuz I don't recall it ever being brought up anywhere. Things like if a character is a kitsune their ears get pet in some scenes(since the game has established how that's basically an erogenous zone for them), maybe even involvement of tails. Small things like that. Would at least make TF's feel more meaningful without affecting game balance.

 

[Tide Hunter]

I completely forgot one of my characters had wings cuz I don't recall it ever being brought up anywhere.

Aye. I want to see the wings do something. Even if it has no gameplay effect in situations where wings logically should, just let me do wing cuddles, please! Like, wrapping wings around someone during a hug, to add that extra bit of intimacy.

 

[wery12345]

Its up to the writers for the acknowledgement of parts, like Etheryn has some small interactions with Kitsune PCs which including reminding the foxy PC is a patslut, and your character holding her with there tails when you enter the frosthound. But I think a lot of writers are doing there own little expacs or Kor right now to focus on the small stuff.

 

[Ria Brew]

No I absolutely get that. My suggestion comes as a hopeful "consider this" for future content, or added to existing content eventually should they feel and obviously if/when they have time for it. Acknowledging the characters appearance more often can do wonders in enriching the experience. I just wonder a bit if things sometimes get forgotten about or overlooked amidst all the other more important work they have to do.

 

[Starstruck]

Spoiler: The Siege of Khor'Minos

Did this for the first time today, ironically on my Kitsune character and I gotta say. As the current Champion of Keros, I want to take the Faceless Blade over my knee and give her a good and thorough spanking because its stunts like her association with Tollus that gives Kitsune-kind a bad rep in the Marshes. >:L

Also when I first met Calise in the tunnels she addressed me as Champion of Frost, then later in the outskirts as Champion of Keros because that's my current title.

If you have acquired both these titles the one marking you as the personal agent of one of the Seven should have priority over the other, regardless of which one your currently toting, no? Especially if she has already recognized the peerage of a fellow Divine Champion.