What content would you like added?

[Upcast Drake]

Legitimate question here, not trying to avoid the rules; Does this imply that if it *doesn't* look like a real animal, it's cool? Like, say, a quadruped chimera or griffin or dragon or whatever. Which of course would be sapient and capable of communicating consent and all that jazz.

No. It'd be a case by case basis. A decent guide would be "If it feels like it was created to skirt the rules and get beast content in the game, it's not allowed." Of course, it only matters how we feel about the content, not how you or he or she or they feel about it. It's entirely subjective and up to our discretion.

If the basis of an idea is "I want more beast-esque content" and you are trying to find some minimum standard that you can get your content to meet and be all clear, it's not going to happen. I'd suggest scrapping the idea.

 

[cloer]

Oh for heavens sake, stop trying to inch your way toward what is acceptable. I think from the answers to the whole discussion up to now, it's pretty much safe to say that nothing below "has at least half a humanoid body" is gonna fly in this particular game.

The best you can hope for is probably something like the Sphinx in the original CoC or a Centaur.

While of course everyone wants their particular kink represented in it, and as much as possible, of course, lines have been drawn. Once you get a yay or nay, accept it.
For example, myself: Yeah, I'm a bit dissatisfied that there seems to be a LOT of dick in this game, like, aside from the outright male NPCs/ companions there's traps and shemales and dickgirls and as far as I can remember right now, there's only two "all female" options, one of which you have to lock down your game path for and surrender your soul. Since I am one of those people who don't subscribe to the "The dick only makes it better" philosophy, yeah, not a fan.
Would it be nice if there were options to "undick" those characters? Sure. But that depends on if the author can see their character being okay with that under certain circumstances. And if they decline, it wouldn't really make me more popular with them if I started trying to get compromises in like "could you make it retractible?" or "could we use shrinking items to make it almost go away?"

No, my only real option is to, well, not interact with those characters unless necessary in my play. Or not play the game at all.

In the end, we're lucky they actually ask us for suggestions, so I think the least we can do is respect it when they shoot something down and not start to somehow try to crowbar something we'd like in.


Well, I said my 2 cents... Now wait and watch me do the thing I just spoke out against myself somewhere down the road.... It'S not easy being perverted...

 

[Lord William]

I'm sorry you feel that way. I do agree that lines must be drawn somewhere, but I hope you can appreciate my desire to know where those lines are drawn. Prior to my question, the most definitive word of God was:

Yeah ain't nobody adding feral/beast. I do enjoy some parasitism stuff, but if it's going to be used as justification for adding literal dog-fucking and the like, I'd rather remove it from the game.

Hi I'm the lead developer on this game. No feral shit, sorry.

And I think we can both agree that's not very helpful! I don't want to waste time and effort hoping for something that will get shot down without consideration, and for that I need to know just how the line you mentioned is drawn.

There is, I believe, a very distinct difference between "literal dog-fucking" and consensually sexing up an intelligent, possibly even verbose and sophisticated creature that happens to look like a dog. Then again, I can also imagine people finding that not to be the case, simply because those intelligent dogs don't exist in the real world. As such, I needed to know which verdict the developers would pass: Is it a dog or is it a "person"? And now I know.

 

[cloer]

There is a very simple set of rules of thumb you can apply, though:
- If it looks like "X" then it is handled as "X".
- If it takes more than a cursory glance to tell that it is not "X", it's gonna be treated as "X".
- When in doubt, no one cares about in depth explanations why "X" is not "X"

And I think the two answers you quoted were clear enough, considering that. For the same reason you also won't be seeing a character that "magically didn't physically age past 12 years old but don't worry, she's actually 200 years old and had a lot of sex already so she's not an actual loli !"

IMHO, if you need to find out *exactly* where the line is drawn so you can try to still be "within its bounds", then it'S probably a suggestion not worth mentioning more than once.

 

[NotYouNorI]

Yeah, I'm a bit dissatisfied that there seems to be a LOT of dick in this game, like, aside from the outright male NPCs/ companions there's traps and shemales and dickgirls and as far as I can remember right now, there's only two "all female" options, one of which you have to lock down your game path for and surrender your soul. Since I am one of those people who don't subscribe to the "The dick only makes it better" philosophy, yeah, not a fan.

Well, as far as pure female companions go there is also Atugia, the dullahan and also I don't think you need to give up your soul to to get Kiyoko. I'm pretty sure that was just the kitsune TF.

So far the companion options are 3 pure females, 2 pure males, 2 dickgirls/shemales and 1 femherm.

 

[cloer]

Ah, I see. Thanks for the clarification.

 

[Miscellaneous Forum Viewer]

I'd be quite partial to have more gentle dom or kind master/slave type content and/or relationships. Specifically as a male PC dom/master to whatever sub/slaveNPC(whatever gender). I like to take charge and be in control, but at times the options I see in most games regarding being a Dom usually involves abusing/degrading/humiliating my character's partner. Granted those fetishes do often go hand-in-hand, but while I am a Dom, I am not a sadist. So I'd personally like to see content where the PC is clearly in charge and will "take them in a manly fashion", without the slurs, abuse, and degradation.

Some other content I'd be curious about/like to see is:
- Reverse Corruption/Purification
- "Virgin" playthroughs
- More human/human-like sexually interactable NPCs
- the possibility of slower, more romance-focused relationship paths
- Submissive "bottom" futa/herm NPCs, as opposed to the ones that always wanna dick ya

A couple less wholesome curiosities:
- "Being the bull/other man" (I don't know the proper phrasing, but basically being the guy diddling someone else' partner with or without their knowledge/approval)
- Ejecting companions from the party/ending a relationship in no uncertain terms (Like you don't want Cait or whoever around for whatever reason.)

I understand completely that these are not going to appeal to everyone, I merely would like insight onto their possibility and/or current inclusion.

 

[Upcast Drake]

I'd be quite partial to have more gentle dom or kind master/slave type content and/or relationships. Specifically as a male PC dom/master to whatever sub/slaveNPC(whatever gender). I like to take charge and be in control, but at times the options I see in most games regarding being a Dom usually involves abusing/degrading/humiliating my character's partner. Granted those fetishes do often go hand-in-hand, but while I am a Dom, I am not a sadist. So I'd personally like to see content where the PC is clearly in charge and will "take them in a manly fashion", without the slurs, abuse, and degradation.

Some other content I'd be curious about/like to see is:
- Reverse Corruption/Purification
- "Virgin" playthroughs
- More human/human-like sexually interactable NPCs
- the possibility of slower, more romance-focused relationship paths
- Submissive "bottom" futa/herm NPCs, as opposed to the ones that always wanna dick ya

A couple less wholesome curiosities:
- "Being the bull/other man" (I don't know the proper phrasing, but basically being the guy diddling someone else' partner with or without their knowledge/approval)
- Ejecting companions from the party/ending a relationship in no uncertain terms (Like you don't want Cait or whoever around for whatever reason.)

I understand completely that these are not going to appeal to everyone, I merely would like insight onto their possibility and/or current inclusion.

No special care will be given to virgin playthroughs, and it's possible that some story event eventually requires you to have sex.

Other than that everything you listed seems plausible and I'm sure there'll be content that ticks some of them. It'll just depend on what people decide to write.

 

[Doomknight009]

Since I saw from the Cait gif a while back that it was the "not thicc" version, I have to ask, as a die hard fan of big girls, how far are we going to be able to take that?

I hesitate to thrown numbers around, but I would dearly like the option to push my kitty-lover into the 'fat' realm. Like, legitimately fat, not "thicc" or "THICC," but actually fat. I figure I'm probably in a vast minority on that, but, well, that's what this thread is for.

 

[Miscellaneous Forum Viewer]

I appreciate the fairly quick responses. I'm not dead-set on a virgin playthrough, merely curious as to whether or not it'd be feasible and I have no intention of begging for special treatment, just tryin' to learn what I can about the direction. The possibility of me being able to commission some of my curiosities are unlikely due to funds, but more likely than me being able to contribute myself as I am not a writer and only have academic experience with programming. We'll see what happens.

I'm familiar with the term "netori" but generally don't like using it as it's often associated with more violent escapades and I try to use my own language to term things, but that is difficult at times it seems. I'll keep an eye on the project, if I am able, I may even contribute or donate someday. Depending on how things progress.

 

[TanukiCoast]

Wishlist:
Skunk, poodle, and Otter tfs
(Pleaseohpleaseohplease)

 

[Evildog]

This is more of a quality of life thing, but I noticed that in any combat if your character's stats hit 0, such as health and whatever the blue bar is, you lose the combat. This is fine, but it doesn't take into account that you have party members. In other words, your party members and summons may still be functional and could win you the fight even if you are downed, but the fight instantly ends in defeat the moment you cannot participate in it. I found this to be kind of annoying, as it negates the purpose of drawing aggression to yourself because if you go down you lose, even if you still have a party. I feel that changing it in a way to where you only lose the fight if everyone is defeated makes more sense, but that is my opinion.

As for content, I think that adding party members, even possibly familiars, and more summons would be interesting. Adding a lust demon summon to seduce your enemies could be cool, seeing as there already is a combat summon in the game.

 

[Darkwarpalg6]

This is more of a quality of life thing, but I noticed that in any combat if your character's stats hit 0, such as health and whatever the blue bar is, you lose the combat. This is fine, but it doesn't take into account that you have party members. In other words, your party members and summons may still be functional and could win you the fight even if you are downed, but the fight instantly ends in defeat the moment you cannot participate in it. I found this to be kind of annoying, as it negates the purpose of drawing aggression to yourself because if you go down you lose, even if you still have a party. I feel that changing it in a way to where you only lose the fight if everyone is defeated makes more sense, but that is my opinion.

I brought this up before, and got a good wrist-slapping from Savin and Drake for my insistence. So, that system is there to stay.

 

[Laughingfox]

It'd likely be a ridiculous amount of work due to the variables, but having some a scene result in some sort of magical mojo (a.k.a. be careful who you sas when you tell them to go fuck themselves) unleash a small horde of illusions of the PC that subsequently shag them silly could be fun. Unless spectral magic illusion things in thy image count as incest? I suppose you could always go the ninja clone technique too, but that probably makes it even worse.

Although..What happens if (when) the PC gets creampied? Is ghost nutter butter real? Huh. I suppose it could all be mental as well, though it'd look far less enticing to followers if a character was just standing in place with a blank stare.

Actually, here's a somewhat silly, semi-related scene hook-- it doesn't have to be the pc (but it could), but speaking of fun with fluids-- what if there was some kind of eccentric alchemist practitioner (succubus? incubus?) that had the uncanny knack of making higher powered healing or various transform effect potions so long as they are, uh, mixed vigorously internally along with a heaping helping of special spunk? Does getting shagged by the Magical Red Minotaur Bull give you wings? Do spies of the kingdom prefer their PC blended Martini shaken, not stirred? Mysteries abound!

 

[Emerald]

This is more of a quality of life thing, but I noticed that in any combat if your character's stats hit 0, such as health and whatever the blue bar is, you lose the combat. This is fine, but it doesn't take into account that you have party members. In other words, your party members and summons may still be functional and could win you the fight even if you are downed, but the fight instantly ends in defeat the moment you cannot participate in it. I found this to be kind of annoying, as it negates the purpose of drawing aggression to yourself because if you go down you lose, even if you still have a party. I feel that changing it in a way to where you only lose the fight if everyone is defeated makes more sense, but that is my opinion.

This pretty much has always been a thing in Fengames. So it's there to stay.

 

[Mugg]

This pretty much has always been a thing in Fengames. So it's there to stay.

Mom, I wanna be a tank when I grow up!

You think you do, but you don't.
- Blizzard Entertainment to all classes except warriors. ©2004

 

[Emerald]

Mom, I wanna be a tank when I grow up!

You think you do, but you don't.
- Blizzard Entertainment to all classes except warriors. ©2004

This has nothing to do with my comment. >.>

 

[Mugg]

This has nothing to do with my comment. >.>

I admit, it may have been a bit nebulous in context, yes. I simply replied to the latest in the chain on the subject lul

 

[TheDwarf]

Old Dwarf telling random tales at bar. Like a Skald (not a bard).
Some might inspire you through the next day. Some might make you fraking hornier and Cait being there...you might not make it to the room if your lust was high (restraint low?)
So you might also put on a floor show.
Some might relate a trick for wilderness that you pick up (+ 1 trap avoidance/perception in wylds?) Some might make you go hunt a non-existent treasure (that someone else already found. Int check? Lore Check? ) Or maybe it really exists...but the clues are useless now...
He could train presence. Maybe he's also a gemologist. Maybe he can train a skill much much later that isn't in game yet.

But he's not always in the town. Chance to encounter him here at the bar/inn. (lower when there's more pups about...) Maybe other towns when they get added too?
Maybe he's a thief (they need trainers, neh?)

 

[NotYouNorI]

Maybe he's a thief (they need trainers, neh?)

Garth is already the trainer for thiefs and warriors.

 

[Valiantcross]

For example, myself: Yeah, I'm a bit dissatisfied that there seems to be a LOT of dick in this game, like, aside from the outright male NPCs/ companions there's traps and shemales and dickgirls and as far as I can remember right now, there's only two "all female" options, one of which you have to lock down your game path for and surrender your soul. Since I am one of those people who don't subscribe to the "The dick only makes it better" philosophy, yeah, not a fan.
Would it be nice if there were options to "undick" those characters? Sure. But that depends on if the author can see their character being okay with that under certain circumstances. And if they decline, it wouldn't really make me more popular with them if I started trying to get compromises in like "could you make it retractible?" or "could we use shrinking items to make it almost go away?"

I agree with this. It would be nice to have a bunch of characters to just be female.


Personally, and I don't know how hard it is to write / code and if it has been done in the past, but more descriptive text. Say you had a huge dick, that barely fits into your sex buddy, that after however many times you've had sex with, her body is now stretched, just like how it would say for yourself if you checked your appearance tab. Also more anal / vaginal training either for you, or your sex buddy and virgin scenes.

 

[NotYouNorI]

I agree with this. It would be nice to have a bunch of characters to just be female.

Well, after the tutorial, so far all the sexual encounter are females :V

Whether any further characters are males, females, dickgirls, cuntboys, maleherms or femherms would depend on whoever writes them.

 

[typoking]

I would really like more balance between male and female characters (and no, dickgirls and cuntboys don't count as male). One of the biggest problems with TiTs and the original CoC is that most of the content is either female or dickgirls. Just straight normal males are seriously lacking, and so far the only male encounter is a goddamn twink. How about some MASCULINE guys!

 

[Darkpheonix]

I would really like more balance between male and female characters (and no, dickgirls and cuntboys don't count as male). One of the biggest problems with TiTs and the original CoC is that most of the content is either female or dickgirls. Just straight normal males are seriously lacking, and so far the only male encounter is a goddamn twink. How about some MASCULINE guys!

Are Garret or Brint not enough for you? Granted they're not in the game yet but they're both companions. You could have the Bro force to save the realm or whatever.

 

[Kesil]

cuntboys don't count as male

They do.

 

[typoking]

Are Garret or Brint not enough for you? Granted they're not in the game yet but they're both companions. You could have the Bro force to save the realm or whatever.

Oh yeah, two guys. I guess we can have nothing but women now. /s
Don't give me that crap. TiTs notoriously has a fuck ton of female and herm content, but a lot less male content, especially male content that doesn't also involve a woman. I'm talking, not just companions, but other NPCs and enemies as well. Other games in this genre like Flexible Survival or Lilith's Throne have far more balanced levels of content for all orientations (and often include filters so if you don't want to run into female enemies you won't, but I'm not asking for that). Is it so wrong that I would like to see the same sort of balance for CoC2? (Especially considering the original CoC had a more even level of content).
Also, Garret is friggen restricted to feminine players with a vagina only, so he doesn't exactly count for a gay guy like me who enjoys playing as a masculine man. (Why you would restrict a character to one sexual orientation in a friggen PORN GAME is beyond me but I won't gripe too much about that. It's the author's choice. I know I wouldn't really want to write straight or lesbian porn. I can't fault them for that.)

 

[Darkpheonix]

Why you would restrict a character to one sexual orientation in a friggen PORN GAME is beyond me

Perhaps in an effort to give them more depth? Not every character has to be Pan-sexual or whatever the term is for no preference and I don't mind missing out on some content because of it. Also chill, the game is still fleshing out its most basic components give it time. What I getting from you in terms of content you want is uber masculine gay content, that's gonna be hard to come. So far Brent is the only one to that seems into guys but your character will always be on the receiving end if I remember his doc right. Your most likely gonna have to settle for traps or twinks or whatever term you want to use for effeminate males unless you wanna commission something. Muscular gay bro content is unlikely but maybe when the orcs encounters are fleshed out there might be something there for you but I haven't seen it in the docs I've found so far.

 

[BubbleLord]

I would really like more balance between male and female characters (and no, dickgirls and cuntboys don't count as male). One of the biggest problems with TiTs and the original CoC is that most of the content is either female or dickgirls. Just straight normal males are seriously lacking, and so far the only male encounter is a goddamn twink. How about some MASCULINE guys!

If you chilled out and actually looked, you’d know that there’s plenty of non-twink males planned. I’ve spoken before about a character named Leofric I’ll be constructing as the mercenary leader. Then there’s also placeholder-named Bask, who’s currently in idea-stage. These are just two that I’m making. It’s not accounting for what others are no doubt going to grind out.

There’s going to be masculine male gay content, but there’s not a ton of writers who do it; not to mention few of the writers can churn things out into the code, so even if we ramped it out quickly? Doesn’t put it ahead in the pipeline.

Settle down and stop whining over the content options; the game hasn’t been out long enough to act like you’ll get nothing. People could also easily do some submission searching and find out about planned PUBLIC content.

 

[typoking]

If you chilled out and actually looked, you’d know that there’s plenty of non-twink males planned. I’ve spoken before about a character named Leofric I’ll be constructing as the mercenary leader. Then there’s also placeholder-named Bask, who’s currently in idea-stage. These are just two that I’m making. It’s not accounting for what others are no doubt going to grind out.

There’s going to be masculine male gay content, but there’s not a ton of writers who do it; not to mention few of the writers can churn things out into the code, so even if we ramped it out quickly? Doesn’t put it ahead in the pipeline.

Settle down and stop whining over the content options; the game hasn’t been out long enough to act like you’ll get nothing. People could also easily do some submission searching and find out about planned PUBLIC content.

You seem to be misunderstanding me. Listen, I understand that the game is in early development. I'm not a child, I don't want everything right now. And I am aware that there are a couple people making male characters, I actually DID take the time to look at that. What I am doing is looking at the trends, comparing this to TiTS and CoC1, and looking at what sexual content has been added to the game already and I'm noticing that CoC2 seems to be following the same pattern as they did: a low amount of content featuring male characters compared to a large amount of content featuring females and herms. Does that mean that it necessarily will? No, no it doesn't, but after seeing far more equal distribution in other games of this genre, I find myself disappointed. And I'm not the only one; look in this thread, there are several other people besides myself who have voiced a desire for male content.

You say you're making male content? Good. I thank you. But you said it yourself: not a lot of writers do it. That, in itself, means that there is going to be less of it (and I'm not even talking strictly gay stuff, straight male content is going to be lacking to, if the prior games are any indication). That's why I am here in a thread asking what sort of content we'd like to see in the game. I'm saying what I would like to see: Male content that isn't just traps and twinks and isn't arbitrarily restricted to a single gender (male or female). That's the entire point of this thread: allowing us to voice the sort of things we'd want to see in the game. I simply want to make my perspective known.

So, kindly take this ladder and get off my back. (Don't get angry about the tone of that, I'm not angry at you I just really wanted to use that phrase, it's fun!)

 

[NotYouNorI]

Dude, people are gonna write what they gonna write or what they are commissioned to write. if you want male content, write or commission it yourself.