What are your gripes/criticism of TiTs?

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It'd probably be a bit broken mechanically for you to be able to select a sexuality and give Steele immunity to tease attacks from them, given that this mechanically just means that minmaxers would make an asexual steele (or gay, which may as well be asexual given how 97% of the inhabitants of this universe are women) and bisexuals end up facing a harder game because of it. Also, alternate modes are pretty unlikely to get added, even with the Javascript port sort of rebuilding it from the ground up. They just take a bunch of extra work, and if they weren't planned from the start, that's a lot of rewriting.

I feel like even if there was a way to define Steele's sexuality, the tease always working would still have to be there for balancing. I'd like a way to allow/disallow certain content like in Lust Doll Plus. But even if the java script conversion weren't a thing, implementing something like that would be time consuming and difficult for something with so many different writers. It's easier to write from the perspective of an (extremely) omnisexual captain.

Oh, also, sodomy feels like a weird thing to say. Just call it anal.

But sodomy makes it sound a fancy and sinful pleasure. Or using it reveals something about the thought process of those who use it. Although I may be biased given where I live and the last time I heard that word used.

Correct, you roleplay as captain Steele who is akin to captain Jack Harkness in terms of sexuality. You can however avoid sex scenes that you as the player don't want to experience. This can cut off a lot of content since this is a erotic game and many characters develop through sexual interactions.

So basically like an immature person filling out their info.

Name: Steele.

Hair Color: I forgot, it's usually white from too much sex.

Eye Color: Why? My tits are down here.

Weight: Fluctuates from fluids if you know what I mean.

Sex: Yes please.

ID No.: 80085101
 

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Who cares what sexuality Steele was meant to be... the player can decide not to interact with certain a gender sexually. Obviously if you lose a fight against an enemy, you won't be able to stop it but just like in RL it doesn't mean you have to enjoy it. My Steeles are mostly Herms and a few pure females who are gay, don't care if they're actually not.
 

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That... Kinda feels like a pretty demeaning thing to say. Like, probably unintentionally, but that carries the implication that trans women aren't women, they're "actually a man." You may have meant, like, Liamme, who's a man that modded himself to be more feminine despite still being a man, but he's pretty much the only character who can fit this description, despite how it isn't overly specific like the description after it.
No. The singer blue legit calls himself male and a man. He never refers to himself in a feminine way.
They really are a man that modded themselves to have boobs. No transphobia. It's how the story was written.

Oh, also, sodomy feels like a weird thing to say. Just call it anal.
If you say anal, there's a lot of things that go through your head. Guy putting dick in guy butt. Guy putting dick in girl butt. Girl putting phallic instrument in girl butt. You get the picture.
Sodomy is just guys taking it anally.

It's just a word that has a specific meaning that directly fits what I'm trying to say.

It'd probably be a bit broken mechanically for you to be able to select a sexuality and give Steele immunity to tease attacks from them, given that this mechanically just means that minmaxers would make an asexual steele (or gay, which may as well be asexual given how 97% of the inhabitants of this universe are women) and bisexuals end up facing a harder game because of it. Also, alternate modes are pretty unlikely to get added, even with the Javascript port sort of rebuilding it from the ground up. They just take a bunch of extra work, and if they weren't planned from the start, that's a lot of rewriting.
You can already shave off your reproductive organs by visiting the scientist in Taskur.
I personally say that

roleplaying > gameplay

Gameplay reasons shouldn't stop you from making decisions on roleplaying elements in a sexual game like this. If the gameplay breaks because of it, then the gameplay's whats at fault. Though this is my opinion.

Correct, you roleplay as captain Steele who is akin to captain Jack Harkness in terms of sexuality. You can however avoid sex scenes that you as the player don't want to experience. This can cut off a lot of content since this is an erotic game and many characters develop through sexual interactions.
Felt like I was experiencing very little of the game, when every NPC I talked to and thought hey I like this personality... I'd read through Appearance and see, "a big cock stuffed into those tight pants."

First time I got disappointed was when talking to Syri in Men'Gha. Oh confident girl who looks like she has fun oof cock. Then it just happened over and over again. Of course it was a disappointment but I still played the game for over 15 hours so my gripes aren't that serious.

It's a choice, but you're really not experiencing much of the game playing that way. Feels like the game's punishing you for your sexual predelections though I know this wasn't the author's intent. They just like putting cocks on beautiful women, and then making the herms have confident and dominant personalities.

Who cares what sexuality Steele was meant to be... the player can decide not to interact with certain a gender sexually. Obviously if you lose a fight against an enemy, you won't be able to stop it but just like in RL it doesn't mean you have to enjoy it. My Steeles are mostly Herms and a few pure females who are gay, don't care if they're actually not.
I mean it matters to me.
This is a text-based game. The eroticism comes to play in the text.

If you don't like men, then reading that your character's getting turned on by a beefy man stroking his dick in front of you will take you out. This isn't avoidable.
If you don't like futa, then reading character appearances, getting to the fact that they have a penis, and hearing your PC think adjectives like delicious or whatever isn't avoidable.

Considering the game allowed me to choose my sex and gender, I didn't expect my sexuality would just straight be decided as pansexual.
 
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I mean it matters to me.
This is a text-based game. The eroticism comes to play in the text.

If you don't like men, then reading that your character's getting turned on by a beefy man stroking his dick in front of you will take you out. This isn't avoidable.
If you don't like futa, then reading character appearances, getting to the fact that they have a penis, and hearing your PC think adjectives like delicious or whatever isn't avoidable.

Considering the game allowed me to choose my sex and gender, I didn't expect my sexuality would just straight be decided as pansexual.
I prefer women.. and rapid click next on most scenes that either don't appeal to me or are a turn off. I see it as this, TiTs and CoC2 draw a much larger playing audience than most erotic games because there is literally content for nearly everyone.. we get to decide what gender we play and who we interact with, sorta on that one. We also decide most of the time on who we shag/date/romance.. so to me the content that I don't like, well it doesn't bother me, there is plenty that I do like.
 
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TiTs and CoC2 draw a much larger playing audience than most erotic games because there is literally content for nearly everyone.. we get to decide what gender we play and who we interact with, sorta on that one.
I agree that, that's a benefit.

In fact, the reason these games are full text-based is because it's easier to create more scenes for full on text-based games.
I just wish we had more control over the player's sexuality is all.
That way you wouldn't need to skip click through anything or avoid anything.

I prefer women..
I'm willing to bet like 99% of the users here.
It'd be difficult to play this game if you weren't. You'd just get disappointed with every new important and interesting NPC you see.
 
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I really hope in the future, you can select the player's sexuality. You create your character in the beginning and select his sex and gender. I hope you can also select his sexuality. Maybe that makes less futa enemies and gay enemies appear? Or if they still appear, tease attacks do nothing to you.
Personally, I dislike how the game speaks or reacts for me at times. The "it's not you, it's Steele - the text can't predict how every player will react" reasoning feels like an excuse at times. I would also like to give my Steeles a given configuration (even if it was similar to the one displayed when using "Sense"). That huge illusion of choice you typed of would lead to assume it could exist, but alas...

That said, in a porn game, it's a logical thought that most, if not all characters, are sexable or eager to have sex. If you want to stay away from sex scenes, it can be done. I for one avoid a lot of smutty contents as they aren't up my alley. But I keep in mind that's not how these games are intended to play as.

Why's the one with the penis gotta always take charge sexually?
I feel like I'd like ausar more but the writing goes very far to remind you they're "pets" and that's not where I am sexually.
Now those are stereotypes I dislike: "penis wielder=dom" and "hehehehe doggo-pupper/catte pet pet pet collar and leash sub scenes and walkies head patting touch fluffy tail who's a good girl?".
 
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I thought the game was literally:

Game: "You into this?"
Me: "Yes"
Game: "Here you go!"
Me: "Not into this"
Game: "Swerve, mofo!"

The only time the game doesn't take your preferences into account is if you lose a fight or run into a few rare situations...
 

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I thought the game was literally:

Game: "You into this?"
Me: "Yes"
Game: "Here you go!"
Me: "Not into this"
Game: "Swerve, mofo!"

The only time the game doesn't take your preferences into account is if you lose a fight or run into a few rare situations...
Or get teased.
Or check the appearance of certain characters.
Or randomly, get penetrated anally in a scene you don't expect to have it.
 

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/shrug

Kesil did say it was an excuse. However, writting horny neutrally is likely a turn off for the writers.

As for point three: always expect the Anal Inquistion. If it has a dick, it will try to find your bum. Angling to a do a threesome? If there's a penis haver/strap-on, keep it in mind.
 

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/shrug

Kesil did say it was an excuse. However, writting horny neutrally is likely a turn off for the writers.

As for point three: always expect the Anal Inquistion. If it has a dick, it will try to find your bum. Angling to a do a threesome? If there's a penis haver/strap-on, keep it in mind.
Or have sex with Goo Girl.
Or sleep on a slime.

Also Kaede and Anno spoiled me. PC did nothing to the dickgirl. Thought maybe the others would be the same... Noooooope.

Now those are stereotypes I dislike: "penis wielder=dom" and "hehehehe doggo/catte pet pet pet collar and leash sub scenes and walkies touch fluffy tail who's a good girl?".
It's way worse in Corruption of Champions 2.
Even the muscular big Minotaur girl only has submissive scenes cause she's full female.
 

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No. The singer blue legit calls himself male and a man. He never refers to himself in a feminine way.
They really are a man that modded themselves to have boobs. No transphobia. It's how the story was written.
Blue, as far as I can tell, is referred to using female pronouns. I'm not totally sure, but during the introduction scene, Red says "This lovely lady to my right is Blue-Star," and Blue has no objection to that. Even after Steele says "You're male" in the "Bathroom?" scene, Blue says "don't let that change anything" and the narration still refers to Blue as "her." Also she hasn't modded herself, if you check the Ovir codex log you'll see that male Ovir naturally have breasts. In fact, their breasts are naturally larger than those of female Ovir. Additionally, even though the sex of Blue, along with Aliss and Beth's Ovir Dancer, is male, all of them actively prefer to go by female pronouns, and the codex mentions how some Ovir groups choose "to treat all children identically until the children decide on gender roles on their own." Also, Blue mentions how "Ovir go by ‘she’ and ‘her’ anyways," regardless of physical sex, and going off the codex the only behavioral difference between male and female Ovir is that male Ovir are "more subtly competitive" to try to show that they're sexually worthy. In essence, just because Blue has a cock and is, physically, male, doesn't mean that Blue is a man, given how she (like all Ovir) exclusively use female pronouns, and she herself is comfortable as a part of an all-female music group.
If you say anal, there's a lot of things that go through your head. Guy putting dick in guy butt. Guy putting dick in girl butt. Girl putting phallic instrument in girl butt. You get the picture.
Sodomy is just guys taking it anally.

It's just a word that has a specific meaning that directly fits what I'm trying to say.
I only ever hear "sodomy" get used by angry preachers shouting about it being a sin. Even besides that: The Merriam-Webster dictionary defines it as "anal or oral copulation with a member of the same or opposite sex. also : copulation with an animal." Google's definition is "sexual intercourse involving anal or oral copulation." Dictionary.com defines it as "1: anal or oral copulation with a person of a different sex. 2: copulation with a person of the same sex. 3: bestiality." The Cambridge dictionary defines it as "the sexual act of putting the penis into another person's anus." The Encyclopaedia Britannica defines it as "(1) as denoting any homosexual practices between men, in allusion to the biblical story of Sodom (Genesis 18:19), (2) as denoting anal intercourse, (3) as synonymous with bestiality or zoophilia (i.e., sexual relations between human beings and animals), and (4) as comprehending a number of other sexual activities, ranging from sexual contacts with minors to oral-genital contacts and oral intercourse between adults."

In none of those definitions is it stated is it specifically guys getting anally penetrated. Sodomy has several specific meanings, and none of them are specifically about a man taking it in the ass. The closest those definitions get is the first from the Encyclopaedia Britannica, but even then it's any gay stuff, including oral sex.
You can already shave off your reproductive organs by visiting the scientist in Taskur.
Tarkus. Also, I've played with a no-genitals character before, they still build up lust over time and from enemy teases, it's just that they can only have anal sex. No genitals doesn't make things easier.
 

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Blue, as far as I can tell, is referred to using female pronouns. I'm not totally sure, but during the introduction scene, Red says "This lovely lady to my right is Blue-Star," and Blue has no objection to that. Even after Steele says "You're male" in the "Bathroom?" scene, Blue says "don't let that change anything" and the narration still refers to Blue as "her." Also she hasn't modded herself, if you check the Ovir codex log you'll see that male Ovir naturally have breasts. In fact, their breasts are naturally larger than those of female Ovir. Additionally, even though the sex of Blue, along with Aliss and Beth's Ovir Dancer, is male, all of them actively prefer to go by female pronouns, and the codex mentions how some Ovir groups choose "to treat all children identically until the children decide on gender roles on their own." Also, Blue mentions how "Ovir go by ‘she’ and ‘her’ anyways," regardless of physical sex, and going off the codex the only behavioral difference between male and female Ovir is that male Ovir are "more subtly competitive" to try to show that they're sexually worthy. In essence, just because Blue has a cock and is, physically, male, doesn't mean that Blue is a man, given how she (like all Ovir) exclusively use female pronouns, and she herself is comfortable as a part of an all-female music group.
Ok that's fair.
That's on me. I didn't even notice how everyone kept referring to her as she, and the concept of male overwrote everything in my head.

I only ever hear "sodomy" get used by angry preachers shouting about it being a sin. Even besides that: The Merriam-Webster dictionary defines it as "anal or oral copulation with a member of the same or opposite sex. also : copulation with an animal." Google's definition is "sexual intercourse involving anal or oral copulation." Dictionary.com defines it as "1: anal or oral copulation with a person of a different sex. 2: copulation with a person of the same sex. 3: bestiality." The Cambridge dictionary defines it as "the sexual act of putting the penis into another person's anus." The Encyclopaedia Britannica defines it as "(1) as denoting any homosexual practices between men, in allusion to the biblical story of Sodom (Genesis 18:19), (2) as denoting anal intercourse, (3) as synonymous with bestiality or zoophilia (i.e., sexual relations between human beings and animals), and (4) as comprehending a number of other sexual activities, ranging from sexual contacts with minors to oral-genital contacts and oral intercourse between adults."

In none of those definitions is it stated is it specifically guys getting anally penetrated. Sodomy has several specific meanings, and none of them are specifically about a man taking it in the ass. The closest those definitions get is the first from the Encyclopaedia Britannica, but even then it's any gay stuff, including oral sex.
Then there's no word specifically referring to guy's taking it up the butt?
I thought I found one, when another user on another site used it in such a manner.

OK. You're right then. I'll just refer to it as anal until I can find a more specific word... wish we could appropriate that word without its negative connotations though...

Tarkus. Also, I've played with a no-genitals character before, they still build up lust over time and from enemy teases, it's just that they can only have anal sex. No genitals doesn't make things easier.
Not the point.
You originally wrote.
"It'd probably be a bit broken mechanically for you to be able to select a sexuality and give Steele immunity to tease attacks from them, given that this mechanically just means that minmaxers would make an asexual steele"

I'm saying you can even technically remove all of your reproductive parts, but it still doesn't change the character's sexuality.

I was trying to show you why I believe the roleplaying should take precedence over the combat gameplay in this case.
 

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I'm saying you can even technically remove all of your reproductive parts, but it still doesn't change the character's sexuality.

I was trying to show you why I believe the roleplaying should take precedence over the combat gameplay in this case.
On the first, yeah? No genitals does not mean no attraction. On the second, in non-combat stuff I totally get why roleplaying should be important, but in gameplay, the only real way to prevent an imbalance by implementing some preference system at this point would be to remove tease and lust altogether, despite how major it is to the game's systems. And in regards to no-genitals, I've already said that no genitals does not mean no attraction, so from the standpoint necessary to make tease combat balanced (or, well, as balanced as it can be, despite shredding most foes), it's better to allow for more interesting and interactive gameplay than "I made myself completely immune to all of this foe's attacks at level 3."
 

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Anyone else want a Kiro radar? Because bar hopping from planet to planet to boost her trust and praying to RNGesus is a bit annoying. I still haven't gotten that last 5%.
 
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I've already said that no genitals does not mean no attraction
Doesn't castration impact human hormonal biology?
Had a discussion with a nurse friend and that's where my info comes from.

Here: https://www.smsna.org/news/how-does-testicle-removal-affect-a-man-s-sex-life#:~:text=Men who have one remaining,and erectile dysfunction (ED).

It says that men without balls suffer from sexual dysfunction. They have to be treated with testosterone boosters.
I totally get why roleplaying should be important, but in gameplay, the only real...
I personally don't agree with that mentality.

If roleplaying > gameplay then gameplay should need to change to fit roleplaying's needs.
If gameplay > roleplaying then the gameplay design would supercede the roleplaying's needs.

Whatever reasoning you come up with doesn't change that core design principle.
 

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Doesn't castration impact human hormonal biology?
Had a discussion with a nurse friend and that's where my info comes from.

Yes a lack of certain hormones can decrease libido. A change in hormones can not change attraction or sexuality. If you're looking at it as libido then yes, in real life removing genitals can affect it. But attraction? That's not how it works.

I personally don't agree with that mentality.

If roleplaying > gameplay then gameplay should need to change to fit roleplaying's needs.
If gameplay > roleplaying then the gameplay design would supercede the roleplaying's needs.

Whatever reasoning you come up with doesn't change that core design principle.

That's fine if you disagree. But clearly the dev's made the game with something else in mind. What Fenoxo says is ultimately the core design principle. And you're forgetting. Steele is always Steele. Yes the the level of customization makes it easy to forget and you can dislike that. But Steele will always be written as a pansexual polyamorous heir to Steele Tech.
 

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Yes a lack of certain hormones can decrease libido. A change in hormones can not change attraction or sexuality. If you're looking at it as libido then yes, in real life removing genitals can affect it. But attraction? That's not how it works.



That's fine if you disagree. But clearly the dev's made the game with something else in mind. What Fenoxo says is ultimately the core design principle. And you're forgetting. Steele is always Steele. Yes the the level of customization makes it easy to forget and you can dislike that. But Steele will always be written as a pansexual polyamorous heir to Steele Tech.
No it's fine. I've come to terms with this now.
My last few replies have just been in defense of how I've come to my thoughts, not why is the game like this.
I'll just stop here.
 

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I want to corrupt and degrade someone... like lotty from the original COC.

Needs more of that.

Seems like there are lots of sub options... but not as many really good dom ones.

Also more traps... I want to break and feminize lund more!
 

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I have a new gripe, and it's the Gryvian enemies in FIRST-14. They seem to be there to tutorialize lust combat, right? Since they have a regenerating shield, which is a nuisance for anyone not using an energy weapon (though tech specialists can pretty much just brute force their way through with the starting laser pistol), and there's also a constantly popping up bold "(She may be easier to take down another way...)" statement.

The thing is, you get to FIRST-14 with the starting equipment. That starting equipment are the Dress Clothes and the Plain undergarments, which collectively provides only 2 sexiness since the Dress Clothes don't provide sexiness or resolve. When it comes to teasing, your starting equipment is kinda shit, and since you were literally unable to go anywhere or get any alternate equipment or modify your character beyond the starting choices, So the only real way to get a boost in sexiness prior to fighting them is to just strip naked, and, well, why would a new player think to do that? After all, the equipment has stats, stats which seem like they'd give a boost, so without being told "by the way, if you strip naked, you get a +5 boost to your character's sexiness, which makes tease attacks stronger," they just wouldn't know.

Going against them, 90% of the time my characters end up missing 50% of the teases and those that land just do 13 lust, so it takes like 10 turns to wear them down unless I'm lucky. Except for the character where I just stripped the clothes off, and started doing 27 damage on every single tease, which made it go as quick as the lion fight. See, the lion generally just takes 3 turns of "shoot" or "attack" and he's down. With the Gryvian, it generally takes obnoxiously long, especially with bad rng.

You might think that it would be clear to use Sense. After all, it should expose a weakness, right? And it might, like how with one fight, a character had C-cups and the Gryvian liked small breasts, so that did 17 damage per tease and ended it in 5 rounds (1 for tease, 4 for hits). Which is weird, C-cups aren't really small, but I guess in TiTS C-cups might as well just be pecs compared to what many have. It's still a lot longer than with the Scavenger Brute fight, but it saves some time. But that fight was lucky, because every tease hit.
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See this? The character I'm using for this is the same as the previous example, and they're male, but they have C-cups, so they're considered to have a feminine face due to the femininity score. None of the other things matter, since they're a human and you can't have a bald character or get sweaty until you're able to actually have free access to Tavros and New Texas. So, that leaves balls. Since they're male, it makes it clear that the good thing to do is genital teases, right? This character used the genital tease 7 times in a row and every single one missed. After that there was one more tease, a hip tease, before loosing the fight, and that one landed a 13 resolve blow.

So. Assume you're a new player, experiencing the new player dungeon, and this is your experience. A normal mob fight where physical attacks are worthless, like against the Celise tutorial fight, which by the way is also not that good (it cuts out most of the choices, doesn't tell you to try to use Sense to understand her weaknesses, doesn't make you select which of the four tease types you use, etc. so basically it only tells you that teasing can be good, and doesn't train you on how to actually engage in lust-based combat). So, because the tutorial didn't teach you how to tease properly, nor that sense is a good idea, you just spam teases. You don't get 7 failures in a row, but you do get a lot of failures, and every tease option just deals 13 damage if they land, making this a tedious slog lasting 3 times longer than a Scavenger Brute fight, while requiring more attention since you have four options of resolve damage rather than 2, and you need to be aware of when it says "by the way, hit the wait button."

In this case, are you having fun? Is it fun to sit through a slog of failures and low damage? Are you learning anything? If I didn't have knowledge of the game, my takeaway would be "some enemies are poorly balanced and teases are barely more effective than attacks even when physical damage is directly disincentivized." I would not learn to use sense to understand their weaknesses, and even if I did use sense there's a chance that they just have no likes that match what my character has and every single option just deals 13 lust damage, so the one thing it could be teaching can just fail to be taught, even if the player was paying attention and experimenting just due to shit rng. And like, that's fine if you want to make people think that the ridiculously overpowered combat option is ridiculously underpowered, but if you're trying to impart a positive impression or to teach how to effectively engage in combat, this doesn't really seem like the best way to do that.

This is, of course, pretty heavily rng-dependent, but still, it feels like it happens way too much without being naked or equipping the Sweater, and it can easily be something that drives away a new player for just being a bad experience or teach a new player poorly.
 

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This is, of course, pretty heavily rng-dependent, but still, it feels like it happens way too much without being naked or equipping the Sweater, and it can easily be something that drives away a new player for just being a bad experience or teach a new player poorly.
And to have the Sweater, you have to have beaten at least one of the Techies.
If you have Ice Cold, they're extremely easy, making it unbalanced in the other direction.
In order:
(L: +31)
(L: +31)
(L: +30)
(L: +31)
I've found they become much easier once I have an Arc Sledgehammer. Of course, that's not necessarily the best thing to be teaching, either.
 
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And to have the Sweater, you have to have beaten at least one of the Techies.
If you have Ice Cold, they're extremely easy, making it unbalanced in the other direction.
In order:
(L: +31)
(L: +31)
(L: +30)
(L: +31)
Ice Cold is really one of the very VERY few useful starter perks I get purely because of this.
 
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Taur support or indeed even the recognition of their existence is really low in most parts of the game.
My max size, max thickness half-leithan captain Steele apparently:
-can contort himself into such a small shape he can still hide under all kinds of people's desks and pleasure them orally.
-regularly gets flipped on his back by regular humans and ridden cowgirl style. They must be doing some serious lifting to haul around 300 kg of lizard like that.
-can sneak into a group of slaves and nobody wonders where that massively big lizard came from, which is doubly weird since the group of slaves were specifically selected as pleasure slaves and I can think of a lot of better uses the pirates on Zheng Shi have for a massive lizard boi so that should definitely raise some eyebrows.
-had to travel all the way out to Zheng Shi just to get his hands on taur-centric equipment for his ship, which makes me wonder just how he managed the three months before that.

I can live with most of those. Constraints on writing resources, cost-benefit and general motivation on part of the writers. I like the way Fisianna is gated. "You are too big to fit on this table." Makes me wonder how they handle things if you modify yourself into a taur after starting to date her... But I appreciate that the writers at least acknowledged the existence of taurs by consciously excluding them from the entire quest line.

But the one thing that really bothers me is when scenes that include an actual other taur (or a certain half-leithan without a tauric body) STILL don't properly recognize Steele's tauric body.
 
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Makes me wonder how they handle things if you modify yourself into a taur after starting to date her...
Everything's fine until after the 5th date, when:
It doesn’t look like she wants to take things further due to your formidable anatomy.
Also, the Sex, Cuddles, Massage and Give Panties options are blocked off with:
It doesn’t look like she is comfortable doing this with someone of your formidable anatomy.
 
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SmithEK

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Can taur Steele's perform oral under desks? I'm sure Flahne sex scenes didn't support it. Also not many folk seem to want to fuck a taur Steele or they didn't when i lasted played with one.
No loving from Bianca or Mirrin.. two of my fav NPCs.
 

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Can taur Steele's perform oral under desks? I'm sure Flahne sex scenes didn't support it. Also not many folk seem to want to fuck a taur Steele or they didn't when i lasted played with one.
No loving from Bianca or Mirrin.. two of my fav NPCs.
Nehzara and Anyxine will do it no problem... Ironically, he fits under her desk but the closet scene is locked because of his tauric body.
 

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I thought if Steele's starter race is half Leithan she could breed Ellie.. but i still ended up with the scene where we had to take her to uveto just like with any other race.. My Steele remained half Leithan herm and kept the taur body.
 

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I thought if Steele's starter race is half Leithan she could breed Ellie.. but i still ended up with the scene where we had to take her to uveto just like with any other race.. My Steele remained half Leithan herm and kept the taur body.
Steeles that were born half-leithan can impregnate Ellie without that treatment, but it's a very low chance; specifically, it's equal to 1% of their virility, capped at 5%.
 
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Wily Rodent

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Cunt Snakes.

I literally can not hit them with ranged attacks but melee is no problem... Like I am literally hosing it down with a spaceship grade fire extinguishing system and it does nothing but somehow I can hit it by swinging a knife at it.