What are your gripes/criticism of TiTs?
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Hopefully the git gets updated soon so that I can suggest being a madman and snooping through the code to check the content vibe there before actually doing it. That's what I usually do for new characters I intend on touching in game. Hard to do that nowadays with the porting tho. x.x
I may not actually know much about this character due to me not actually playing the game for many months but from what a few posts above me are going on about I would hope that there is at least a way, a possibility for the player to be able to... I don't know, beat her at her own game? That kind of thing really sets a lot of people's gears into motion if you know what I mean.
Shekka barely has anything for sex stuff unless you give her a dick.
Makes me feel as if there's no point in putting Shekka on the crew if I'm interested in her that way unless I do something to her body that makes me completely NOT interested in her entirely. I do not like when futa variants of characters get way more than their normal female stuff in sex content to where it feels as if the game's saying that having her just be pure fem is the "wrong" way to play with her. So I just don't recruit her at all. :///
Penny has had this issue from the start too and I cannot stand it. I don't like seeing a whole 75-80% of sex content be locked out unless I take the character in a direction that COMPLETELY turns me off...
Makes me feel as if there's no point in putting Shekka on the crew if I'm interested in her that way unless I do something to her body that makes me completely NOT interested in her entirely. I do not like when futa variants of characters get way more than their normal female stuff in sex content to where it feels as if the game's saying that having her just be pure fem is the "wrong" way to play with her. So I just don't recruit her at all. :///
Penny has had this issue from the start too and I cannot stand it. I don't like seeing a whole 75-80% of sex content be locked out unless I take the character in a direction that COMPLETELY turns me off...
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I get where you're comin' from here, and I know you're aware of how this works due to how long you've been here and this is more of a reply to the sentiment you're making than to you.
The fact of the matter is that what's popular is what gets the work and the writing as a great majority of the stuff is done by a variety of authors other than Fen and co. That means that they're gonna be writing either their own stuff or stuff they wanna see and dicks, especially on chicks, are just super darn popular. This means that if someone wants to see something other than the norm they'll have to write it and get it added or pay for it to be written and put in. This isn't a "my favorite version of a character has been overlooked" type of thing (not that you said it was), it's a "I'm in the unfortunate minority who like this version of a character and thus get little content for them" thing.
I'll admit, it'd be nice if content was more evenly written, even though I like the sorta stuff that's in the vast majority it'd just be cool to have more variety in sex scenes. Yet, like so many things in this world, this is another instance of someone that wants something having to make it happen themselves as it's unlikely to happen otherwise. :/
Considering it is content for a specific character, It would most likely be paying the writer to add it. I believe the rule of thumb with CoC2 and TiTS is "You don't write for another person's character" though I guess if you have shown to be competent enough and the Original Writer has oversight and gives approval someone else writing the scenes for a character can be done... it would just be the exception rather than the rule to how these things are done.
Yeah, I don't even mind the futa of it all but totally rewriting Penny's personality is just, like... I'd have gone along with Badger if I had wanted to do that.
I myself am not the biggest fan of horse dick on fox girl, I had hoped when I first started playing that you could use a safer TFI to give her a dick like Futazona. I hope in the future they add the ability to use TF items like Dicksprout instead of Throbb or the Synthsheath.
Agreed.
Wasn't there some talk a while back about adding in a canine synthsheath?
It's on the code pile, just not added yet.
I also have a Nox character!Syri won't creampie steele even if steele is sterile in the new Syri x Erra scene Syri basically creampies erra after just meeting her but will not creampie steele a lover she's known for a long while.Same result for the Uveto variant I don't normally complain or try not to but this feels like a slap in the face... Idk if the scene can be swapped to Syri creaming Erra's ass which would be super hot but over all pretty big gripe. I know this isn't Savin's fault I just wish Hugs would have done more research or build up to why Syri would creampie a stranger instead of just doing it after Steele introduces them.
Fingers crossed this might get fixed...
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The fact that you can get Sterilex at a vending machine but can't for Fertite Plus.
Idk, I guess I've just had multiple moments of thinking the latter would be in the adult-only vending machines looking for Fertite+ to reverse my temp infertility for Breedwell seeing as I see that as sorta counterparts to eachother (Given they pretty much kinda cancel eachother out in a way). I keep forgetting that no Fertite+ cannot be gotten fron the vending machines. Idk why that irks me, probably because at one point I wasted a fucking 800+ cred Breeder's Bliss thinking it'd do it. >3>
Idk, I guess I've just had multiple moments of thinking the latter would be in the adult-only vending machines looking for Fertite+ to reverse my temp infertility for Breedwell seeing as I see that as sorta counterparts to eachother (Given they pretty much kinda cancel eachother out in a way). I keep forgetting that no Fertite+ cannot be gotten fron the vending machines. Idk why that irks me, probably because at one point I wasted a fucking 800+ cred Breeder's Bliss thinking it'd do it. >3>
A lot of TiTs content is behind obscure and arcane actions. Some items require reading the codex to acquire. Whole characters are behind obscured actions. The whole game is rather obtuse to new players who didn't play iteration after iteration.
To be fair most of these are there for transformatives with irreversible effects you might regret later.
I'd rather not bumble into something like the Treatment before reading in depth just what I'd be getting myself into so...
I think this is fine as it is. /shrug
Because the JS port is location-by-location, there's ample time for us to really get into all this and do away with some of that nonsense in the pursuit of polishing the game's earliest parts as best we can as we continue to develop it. I even planned on bringing it up in today's dev meeting. There's a lot I'd want to suggest with characters especially.
I never really had a problem with this considering a lot of the content that is obscure isn't really "main game" quests or content but side stuff for a more dedicated player base to figure out. Oh, this person is not talking to me? why? oh, this drink at the bar makes me more charming, and hey presto the person is talking to me! I think the only part that I would consider "Too Obscure" and way too convoluted is
the Shade and Kara quest stuff considering the majority of games hammer in the player's mind to finish one quest before doing another and yet completing Kara quest 2 and talking with Shade as many gamers would think would be the correct way to do things actually cuts future Shade content (or at least it did in the past, dunno about now) where instead when Shade tells you to talk to her in the Bar you actually ignore that and continue with the Myrellion quest so that you discover the probe and Shade finds out you are sisters.
But then again maybe they are trying to be indicative of real-life in a way. Sometimes we just don't know what to say or do and sometimes we fuck up. Sometimes we solve a problem with our wits or sometimes we just stumble into something obscure that solves our problem. one could say it is to give players the replayability experience, checking out the setting of the game and finding out new things. game even shows you that new stuff is added to old planets later on for higher level fun like the north Zil tribe so if Men'gha has some stuff you can do later on maybe the other planets do too?
Then again I only played the flash version half a year back so I have no idea if the JS version (if it is public) might just not have the content yet.
'Amazoness' does always annoy me. It's a hat on a hat.
Yeah amazoness seems a bit redundant in its intent, similar to the intent behind the usage of unthaw or irregardless (though those are root words with a prefix abuse problem).
Not a gripe as such but the lore and the world is depressing as hell sometimes. You come for the porn and find slavery, genocide and exploitation out the wazoo
It's the capitalismTM
While all genres deal with varied issues, it is Science Fiction that is the genre that most deals with social and societal issues, usually by framing them in a manner that gets people thinking. A good story, for example, the majority of the Twilight Zone, do it in such a way that people know the message being conveyed is meant for them but they accept it. A bad story does it by bashing people over the heads, but the message still gets across.
Science Fiction is also the genre most associated with Hope; hope for a better future, hope that we become better, we hope for a better tomorrow. Even a dystopia is about hope, or rather, the lack thereof. And TiTS falls into the dystopian setting. You have a future where yes, Humanity is one of the big boys in charge of the UGC with the Ausar. And Human corporations dominate the business landscape. But its still built on the back of wage slaves, corporate exploitation and the occasional bout of wiping a native species out.
And normally the story would be about toppling those corporate overlords and freeing the people from their credited shackles. Only its not. Its simply the story of the heir of a rising corporation and while they might not like what other corporations are doing, Captain Steele simply doesn't have the clout to fight back. Maybe they might be able to change some things, but they'll never be able to change the whole system, not without tearing everything down first. And thats going to hurt more people than it helps.
The fact that the Galaxy would be a dystopian corporate quagmire was practically on the proverbial TiTs box-art, we all knew this wouldn't be pretty, and coming off the CoC experience no one was ever surprised that was the direction FenCo was taking.
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TheShepard256
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I personally think you're both overstating how bad things are, and that TiTS on the whole isn't dystopian; at least, not in the traditional sense of "everyone not in the 1% is oppressed and miserable, and there's nothing they can do about it" (though I will admit some places, e.g. Dhaal, are like that). Yes, things are pretty crappy for people who get the short end of the stick, but there's an expansive and well-populated middle ground between those people and the societal elites. I doubt the lives of those average people would be much worse than those of real-life people. Large-scale conflicts are quite rare, there are no real existential threats to worry about, and it's not like there's some terrible secret powering the UGC. Of all the sci-fi franchises I'm familiar with, TiTS would be my top pick for "best to live in for an average person".
I mean idk I'd describe any setting where the 'short end of the stick' is slavery, medical testing and sex trafficking as pretty dystopian
Not only this, but the game will just throw you into dark tones without any real lead up.
On one instance you're naively going through Mhen'ga fucking zil, suddenly 2 planets later, not even mid-late game you're introduced to genocidal ants.
TheShepard256
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I'm pretty sure slavery and sex trafficking are still around in the modern day, so does that mean you consider real life to be dystopian? If you judge everything by its worst aspects, then pretty much every setting not aimed at young kids is crappy. As such, I believe that in order for the term 'dystopia' to have any meaning, there has to be limits on what qualifies a setting as dystopian beyond "the worst aspects are pretty bad"; IMO it's that such aspects must apply to the majority of the population, which is part of my argument above that TiTS as a whole isn't truly dystopian.