Reaha Backer Poll

[JohanLitvisk]

Yeah, yeah it's a fetish game. I don't necessarily care because they don't personally appeal to me (like bimbos) and there are better lactation TFs in the game. I'll drop this before we get into another argument about people's personal fetishes and their presence in TITS.

 

[irioth]

I don't think Gush or Dumbfuck should be legal anywhere. That doesn't mean they aren't fun in a fetish game.

This is is still a transhumanist society where people routinely make massive changes to their bodies as a matter of lifestyle. Changing the way their own brains work comes with the course. The main problems with these drugs is they apparently don't yet know how to reverse or fine-tune their effects (but fine-tuning the effects of many treatments seems an area where the technology is still far from mature in general). Otherwise, if people like to have their libidos skyrocketed and optimize themselves for an hypersexual lifestyle, they should have the right to. Hedonists, sensualists, and sluts are people too.

 

[eveoflife]

... I just wish I could keep my fucking mouth shut. I'm sorry, Fen, and I'm sorry to everyone else in this thread, especially since I apparently came off as super kinkshamey or... something. The amount of fits I throw probably makes people wonder why I even hang around these forums. And that's because, really and truly, I like TiTS, and I like this community. 


I'm just... really, really, really bad at expressing that like a normal human being. My bad.

Touchy subjects and misunderstandings are quite the bitch. Especially when they explode with replies at one minute or less response time. xD


I'd blame the speed and skimming habits.   And replies like Wsan going off like "who cares its a porn game" provoking you.

 

[JohanLitvisk]

@irioth: Well, that is noble in some sense I guess. People should be able to do whatever they want to themselves. I think the U.G.C. was thinking more along the 'once off cases doesn't count' line of thinking so we should smash em with the banhammer. Still, there are safer and more properly optimized ways to achieve a hypersexualized lifestyle without having to run the risk of OD and what not. But I'm glad TITS isn't a cliche noblebright hugfest. It makes the universe feel better (TITS still is the deepest & complex porn game universe I've seen). As annoying as these fuckfests get (especially when involving NT), they do show that people are willing to look far deeper into the game besides it's porn element (us being the minority be damned).


Regardless, I look forward to seeing new Reaha content, divisive as it already is and how much worse it's gonna get. Blame my cynicism for thinking that...

 

[eveoflife]

I don't blame Codecat for anything. He's always been clear and consistent with his stance on this kind of stuff, and I sort of admire his ability to remain detached like that. And envy it, really. Honestly I'm surprised he even poked his head in here...

Not saying you blame him. Just teasing him for that mention earlier and then that line. O 3o

 

[MilitaryAaa]

I don't blame Codecat for anything. He's always been clear and consistent with his stance on this kind of stuff, and I sort of admire his ability to remain detached like that. And envy it, really. Honestly I'm surprised he even poked his head in here...

It's not that there's anything wrong with being emotionally invested in a game, I cried at times, raged, laughed, etc, hell I know someone who got over depression by playing dark souls, wow right? 


It's the fact that you said you had several nightmares about a fictional planet in the far future where genetic manipulation actually doesn't result in a catastrophe of physical problems. 


I place all my remaining faith in humanity that such a thing will never happen.

 

[irioth]

@irioth: Well, that is noble in some sense I guess. People should be able to do whatever they want to themselves. I think the U.G.C. was thinking more along the 'once off cases doesn't count' line of thinking so we should smash em with the banhammer. Still, there are safer and more properly optimized ways to achieve a hypersexualized lifestyle without having to run the risk of OD and what not. But I'm glad TITS isn't a cliche noblebright hugfest. It makes the universe feel better (TITS still is the deepest & complex porn game universe I've seen). As annoying as these fuckfests get (especially when involving NT), they do show that people are willing to look far deeper into the game besides it's porn element (us being the minority be damned).


Regardless, I look forward to seeing new Reaha content, divisive as it already is and how much worse it's gonna get. Blame my cynicism for thinking that...

There are other ways of getting an hypersexualized body, yes, but so far the only way to get an hypersexualized mind to go with it is to use the banned drugs. And it is possible to OD yourself in a mess with other treatments, too: e.g. you can make certain body parts too big to move if you aren't careful, and think of the fate of old Vic. It's just medical technology is a work in progress as usual, so they have the means to reverse or fine-tune the effects of many body-altering drugs (not all and not that well yet, judging from how often you get random effects), not so yet for the brain-altering drugs.

 

[Noob Salad]

Legal mind-altering drugs that hypersexualize you with zero consequences don't make any sense.

 

[Nik_van_Rijn]

Legal mind-altering drugs that hypersexualize you with zero consequences don't make any sense.

Why is that, exactly? Also, how was that pizza?

 

[Primename]

Legal mind-altering drugs that hypersexualize you with zero consequences don't make any sense.

It's like a vidya gayme or soumthin.

 

[eveoflife]

Why is that, exactly? Also, how was that pizza?

I'd think a mind altering drug, slavers and rapist could drug someone easier. Then comes pranks and revenge on cheating spouses or stolen lovers. To many would abuse it, whatever the reason, I'd think.

 

[Couch]

The only thinks that saddens me is the lack of an opportunity for a herm Reaha for those of us whose seek her cured path.

I already spoke with Savin regarding plans.  Treated Reaha will have to be completed first.

 

[Nik_van_Rijn]

I'd think a mind altering drug, slavers and rapist could drug someone easier. Then comes pranks and revenge on cheating spouses or stolen lovers. To many would abuse it, whatever the reason, I'd think.

Well, the legality of the drug itself doesn't mean that it's illegal usage won't be prosecuted, nor does the fact that it will be reversible rule out adverse effects and risks of misuse.


 Slavers and rapists will get something like that whether it's legal or not, as will anyone whose mind will be set on using it, while law-fearing citizens won't do it regardless.

 

[eveoflife]

Well, the legality of the drug itself doesn't mean that it's illegal usage won't be prosecuted, nor does the fact that it will be reversible rule out adverse effects and risks of misuse.


 Slavers and rapists will get something like that whether it's legal or not, as will anyone whose mind will be set on using it, while law-fearing citizens won't do it regardless.

Yeah, it'll get abused regardless, greed and desire aren't stopped that easily but it'd just make it that much harder.

 

[shadefalcon]

The amount of fits I throw probably makes people wonder why I even hang around these forums. And that's because, really and truly, I like TiTS, and I like this community. 


I'm just... really, really, really bad at expressing that like a normal human being. My bad.

No we´ve already gotten that. If you didn´t like the game, I highly doubt you could get this passionate about it.


And altough I´ve just skimmed through the new posts I haven´t gotten the impression of kink shaming from anyone on this thread. It´s just a bunch of people getting passionate in their own way.


And WOW. This thread suddenly got several PAGES since I logged of.

 

[crushogre]

One way to reconcile the Treatment being optional and Savin's goon squad would be to make leaving a one time deal, and Reaha loses that one time get out of jail free card when you stupidly bring her back. It still leaves things darker than some people would like, but it also still leave the Treatment technically optional.

 

[shadefalcon]

One way to reconcile the Treatment being optional and Savin's goon squad would be to make leaving a one time deal, and Reaha loses that one time get out of jail free card when you stupidly bring her back. It still leaves things darker than some people would like, but it also still leave the Treatment technically optional.

It´s already possible for her to walk around in New Texas though. You know, when you take her out for ice cream.

 

[eveoflife]

One way to reconcile the Treatment being optional and Savin's goon squad would be to make leaving a one time deal, and Reaha loses that one time get out of jail free card when you stupidly bring her back. It still leaves things darker than some people would like, but it also still leave the Treatment technically optional.

Fen was already fed a idea on Discord that was pretty much "help her decide". The most caring path I've seen yet. But Savin holds strong to the current path even with others offering to write a friendlier version.

 

[crushogre]

It´s already possible for her to walk around in New Texas though. You know, when you take her out for ice cream.

I figure no one realizes she's a returned exile until her family squeals to the feds. After all, she wouldn't resemble any descriptions from before she left, and possibly wouldn't even match dna samples on file. Although the latter is unlikely, with gene mods being as common as they are scientists have probably figured out something to look for that doesn't get altered.

 

[shadefalcon]

I figure no one realizes she's a returned exile until her family squeals to the feds. After all, she wouldn't resemble any descriptions from before she left

...well that kind of makes sense. She already looks pretty New Texan.

 

[Almacia]

From a larger point of view, some players are going to want Reaha in hyper-libido'd muscle futa mode because that's their fetish. They should be allowed to consciously work towards that goal, instead of forcing them along a path of "Oh God, you've completely fucked up and ruined your slave's life!"

One such player here. I really like the idea of Cowmazon Reaha, and the choice I'm presented with is either to put a character I like quite a bit through a nightmarish, traumatic experience because my Steele is an oblivious idiot/evil asshole, or just entirely ignore content that appeals to me.


What is frustrating about that dilemma is that it is purely driven by the nature of the game. From an in-universe perspective, the choice is completely black and white. Even if you like Cowmazons, why would you force Reaha into becoming one when there is countless others to enjoy? But alas, this is just a game, and you have to take what you can get.


In the end I'll probably pick the first option, because it's a porn game and it's not like it really matters, but I feel like I'm being punished for pursuing my fetish. And anybody who likes both Reaha and Amazonian characters (the kind of people such an expansion would appeal to the most) wouldn't be happy with such a choice, I'm pretty sure.


But if it has to be done that way, it can't be helped. I'll get over it pretty quickly.

 

[Krynh]

Well, this thread was an interesting read. With quite a few productive ideas re:Treated Reaha and a less dystopian New Texas


@IVIysteriousPerson I do hope this thread and some people in it haven't put you off this community. 

 

[Savin]

I step away for one evening and you guys double the size of this tread. Gah. Anyway, a couple of points before I lock this thread and toss it in a dumpster.


First, Treated Reaha exists in her entirety as two pages of notes an a doodle Alder did, so any necessary changes are not a big deal. I also don't intend on starting on her any time soon, especially given Point the Second, since I have one million other things to do first. 


Second, thanks for turning Fen into Grumpasaurus Rex during my D&D game D: . That said, after the game we had a nice sit-down for a bit and went over what some of y'all have been saying in the thread here. Right now, it looks like Fenbro is going to enact some retcons to the Treatment and New Texas, removing the forced aspect of the Treatment. What this means for NT dissidents is undecided -- I'll be pushing for deportation/banishment, but the idea of debt-slavery has also come up among other things. I'll make a thread detailing what the results are when they happen. As long as these changes don't make me rewrite a bunch of Reaha's currently-active content, I'm 100% behind this plan. The Treatment being forced on people has been a big ol' bugbear to me from the beginning. 


Third, it's worth noting the vector by which Reaha gets the Treatment is still a relatively minor part of the expansion regardless. Like, probably on the order of sub-10% of total content. I'm genuinely pretty surprised this thread exploded the way it did -- nothing mentioned here should have been a surprise to anybody, given the information on NT and the Treatment previously available, but I guess seeing it in action (or in outline, anyway) sort of drove it home for people. But hey, consider this an instance of "The Devs Listen." Or might, anyway, I have no idea exactly how this retcon business will shake out. We'll see!

Someone needs to ask Savin if they can write a synth sheath third path for Cured Reaha.

That's not really a third PATH, so much as just a thing you could give Reaha after Curing her. If you wanna go through, do that, and add new scenes and revise prior ones to support it, more power to you. 

But Savin holds strong to the current path even with others offering to write a friendlier version.

Nobody offered to write shit. Except Couch, which I've already thumbs-up'd.


Fen was dropping ideas for how I could write it. If Fen wants to come in and do Treated Reaha himself, fuck it, go for it.