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Imps, as currently presented, are more akin to forces of nature than real characters, running on instinct, hyperfixated on sex. Ivaze is described as 'lust incarnate' in her appearance tab.

My point is that all those characters have more to offer the PC, and the player, as characters than Ivaze, which is a feature, not a bug. All demons used to be people with souls, immediately putting them closer to par with mortals than imps. I don't think it's such a stretch to suggest that if you repeatedly lay with something as spiritually vacuous as an imp - officially described as 'degenerate' and 'horrid little balls of lust' - to the point that you give them your soul, then the PC becomes spiritually vacuous themselves. Kassyra, Sandre, Caera, etc, all at least have something else going on in their lives. Even in Ivaze's bad end, she doesn't have much going on other than growing her harem (and spending quality time with her favourite).

So, yes, I kind of am saying that every possible future of piping Ivaze would lead to the PC's corruption and enslavement. Which is, you know, the same penalty for losing your soul to anyone else. In the paragraph you quoted, the word 'eventually' is doing some heavy lifting. You are what you eat; if you sleep with dogs, be prepared to wake up with fleas; etc.
 
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We gain a second femdom focused pussy lady in a year, and people want to turn her into a sub. SMH.
Anyway B, firstly congrats on getting her in. Second, are there any plans for a Lezdom orgy down the line or for her to use a strap on pussy champs?
 

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The all-girl orgy only occurs if you have a penis and you fuck Ivaze's pussy (which, for Patreon reasons, is a coincidence). If the PC can't fuck Ivaze with a real cock, all the lady imps would need to come from somewhere else.

Which, like, isn't outside the realm of possibility - Ivaze had to come from somewhere, and Meridyx is coming, so more lady imps are a thing - but, well, to answer the question, there are currently no plans on a lezdom orgy.

And Ivaze would rather fuck you with her tail than a strap-on.
 
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The all-girl orgy only occurs if you have a penis and you fuck Ivaze's pussy (which, for Patreon reasons, is a coincidence). If the PC can't fuck Ivaze with a real cock, all the lady imps would need to come from somewhere else.
Non of her scenes really mention her ever getting pregnant from what I read of your excerpts(not backer so no clue if it changed) so you can always just chuck it up to those being her girlfriends.

Regardless, what is your stance in people writing for your NPCs? I like Lezdom and Ivaze is right my alley, so just throwing myself out here.
 

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Non of her scenes really mention her ever getting pregnant from what I read of your excerpts(not backer so no clue if it changed) so you can always just chuck it up to those being her girlfriends.

Regardless, what is your stance in people writing for your NPCs? I like Lezdom and Ivaze is right my alley, so just throwing myself out here.
Ivaze is public! You can enjoy her content RIGHT NOW at no charge!

If you mating press Ivaze and are (coincidentally) virile, after a few days, Ivaze will disappear for a night (coincidentally). Coincidentally, imps have a gestation period of less than a week. Then, coincidentally, she'll arrive with a whole entourage of girl imps. There are multiple ways to infer on what just happened, depending on how you choose to read them (the conclusions you come to will be your own, of course).

If you'd like to write for Ivaze, sure, go for it! Writing sex scenes for pre-existing characters is a great way for a new writer to cut their teeth.
 

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I disagree brother. The champ can have ample experience beating and taming demons, while still managing corruption. You have all the combat encounters and post battle sexy time, then more developed stuff like getting Sandre and Caera in line(those are full demons, more than an imp), all the way to Kass herself who can be visited at leisure and fucked, topped, dommed if you want. After all that the madlad champ can go right back to doing heroics, unbroken. But you're telling me every possible future piping Ivaze - an imp, leads to corruption and enslavement?
Ironically, this game's characterization of demons runs into the same issue that Frieren's demons do. It's hard to sell soullessness when the demons still do those human reflexes.

That said, I see this game's version of Corruption as less empathy blockers and more as metaphor for sublimation into sexual objectification.

Coincidentally... that's a lot of coincidences...
Much like I'm sure it was coincidence that Gywn was knocked up by some guy no one seems to elaborate much on.

By actual coincidence: I've been reviewing the old docs, for reasons, and turns out Garret's outline puts him as a dom that the PC would guide into the role. Tall Lyric is looking to be a much better written, or plotted, version of that.
 

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We gain a second femdom focused pussy lady in a year, and people want to turn her into a sub. SMH.
Femdom is the kind of fetish that many guys bounce off hard, especially if it involves verbal degradation, humiliation kink and emasculation. It's just not what they're into. I, for one, don't generally go for corruption content in general, and throwing in exclusively femdom makes Ivaze eminently skippable for me. Sorry, B.
If you mating press Ivaze and are (coincidentally) virile, after a few days, Ivaze will disappear for a night (coincidentally). Coincidentally, imps have a gestation period of less than a week. Then, coincidentally, she'll arrive with a whole entourage of girl imps. There are multiple ways to infer on what just happened, depending on how you choose to read them (the conclusions you come to will be your own, of course).
Please tell me we're not gonna fuck all our imp daughters.
 
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Femdom is the kind of fetish that many guys bounce off hard, especially if it involves verbal degradation, humiliation kink and emasculation. It's just not what they're into. I, for one, don't generally go for corruption content in general, and throwing in exclusively femdom makes Ivaze eminently skippable for me. Sorry, B.

Please tell me we're not gonna fuck all our imp daughters.
I definitely won't tell you that we're doing that.
 

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Imps, as currently presented, are more akin to forces of nature than real characters, running on instinct, hyperfixated on sex. Ivaze is described as 'lust incarnate' in her appearance tab.

My point is that all those characters have more to offer the PC, and the player, as characters than Ivaze, which is a feature, not a bug. All demons used to be people with souls, immediately putting them closer to par with mortals than imps. I don't think it's such a stretch to suggest that if you repeatedly lay with something as spiritually vacuous as an imp - officially described as 'degenerate' and 'horrid little balls of lust' - to the point that you give them your soul, then the PC becomes spiritually vacuous themselves. Kassyra, Sandre, Caera, etc, all at least have something else going on in their lives. Even in Ivaze's bad end, she doesn't have much going on other than growing her harem (and spending quality time with her favourite).

So, yes, I kind of am saying that every possible future of piping Ivaze would lead to the PC's corruption and enslavement. Which is, you know, the same penalty for losing your soul to anyone else. In the paragraph you quoted, the word 'eventually' is doing some heavy lifting. You are what you eat; if you sleep with dogs, be prepared to wake up with fleas; etc.
Fair enough, I see what you mean now.
When you say repeatedly lay until you give your own soul, it's like the usual way it goes with demons right? If you overindulge, you pay the price. If this is the context, I agree with you.
But is there not a way through this like there is with the other demons? Say if you keep her in the wayfort, fuck her for a weekend, then go on an usual heroic run, visit your Briwives in khorminos, the floof family, Ryn and El, the centaurs and the mares, all the lovely preg ladies and the children, while as usual thwarting evil on the way, then after a week or so you head back to the wayfort, have some more fun with Ivaze and the cycle goes on. Is even such a balanced healthy lifestyle going to result in enslavement and addiction? Surely not, right?
(I'm not bugging you to make sub content for her by the way. You already have plenty of characters I REALLY like. That point just stood out for me as I read it, so I wanted to understand your perspective better)
 

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B, question - I haven't gotten to the point of Ivaze's bad end yet I don't think, but does being soulbound make it impossible to get the bad end? I'd figure it would because you can't lose your soul anymore.
 

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Femdom is the kind of fetish that many guys bounce off hard, especially if it involves verbal degradation, humiliation kink and emasculation. It's just not what they're into. I, for one, don't generally go for corruption content in general, and throwing in exclusively femdom makes Ivaze eminently skippable for me. Sorry, B.
That's okay! Nothing can appeal to everybody. Ivaze is a shortstack femdom imp - that's several niche fetishes rolled into one (well, 'niche' by normie standards. It's pretty tame by CoC2 standards) and as much as I try to make a quality product, I can't convince you to like something.
But is there not a way through this like there is with the other demons? Say if you keep her in the wayfort, fuck her for a weekend, then go on an usual heroic run, visit your Briwives in khorminos, the floof family, Ryn and El, the centaurs and the mares, all the lovely preg ladies and the children, while as usual thwarting evil on the way, then after a week or so you head back to the wayfort, have some more fun with Ivaze and the cycle goes on. Is even such a balanced healthy lifestyle going to result in enslavement and addiction? Surely not, right?
Smoking one cigarette a week is worse for your health than smoking zero.

Mechanically speaking, having sex with Ivaze increases your Corruption by something like two or three per pop (and something like seven with the gangbang). If all of your other heroic good deeds lower your Corruption back down to levels equal to or below when you had sex with Ivaze, then sure, you can be a shining white-knight paladin and fuck a degenerate hellspawn on the side, as a treat.
B, question - I haven't gotten to the point of Ivaze's bad end yet I don't think, but does being soulbound make it impossible to get the bad end? I'd figure it would because you can't lose your soul anymore.
The only gate I put in was for your Corruption stat to be 100. If there are any exceptions, I didn't put them in and they were added during coding.

It's opt-in, though. If you find it within yourself to resist cumming out your soul, your Corruption goes down by 1 (which will immediately go back to 100 since you're about to fuck Ivaze. You're just signposted that there's an avoidable Bad End ahead)
 

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Still say you should just mindfuck'em all and she isn't a full imp, just an (unique) plant spawn from a seed Kasyrra took during her time with Alraune to experiment on and misplaced. She's a hybrid of corrupted Ivy and Azalea, hence the name she was tattoo'd with before she slipped away. Also explains her more addictive than normal femgirl nectar.
 
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Honnestly, I'm not in the mood hard sub. When I try the black knight and see, she taunt me again and again for exemple with "brat or bitch" in every talk, I hate that sorry, if I try a submit content I need a little respect for me, that's all. For the moment I'm not see a sub content, except Klemaia, I want try. And sorry me too, but even Ivaze is interresting i'm not attract by her in the game, you did a great job but this isn't my preference for the content I try^^'.
 

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Mechanically speaking, having sex with Ivaze increases your Corruption by something like two or three per pop (and something like seven with the gangbang). If all of your other heroic good deeds lower your Corruption back down to levels equal to or below when you had sex with Ivaze, then sure, you can be a shining white-knight paladin and fuck a degenerate hellspawn on the side, as a treat.
Got it. That's how I imagined it would go. Thanks for the info, friend.
 

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Wearing the Ring of Fate (like hell am I giving that to Calise, hell no - that's my corruption reducing spirit moo thank you very much) and occasional trips to Zo or the Cloister and you'll be managing your nightly imp sessions like the pros!
 
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Updated Lyric with 2,500 words! I accidentally made the scene where you get mating pressed by a dragon really long. This scene is basically over now, it just needs some cooldown paragraphs.
Thick, warm splashes of precum fill your [pc.vagAss|tunnel|ass] the longer [lyric.heShe] goes, and with your lifted posture, all of it seeps deeper into you to. You can feel the warm, thin fluid trickle deeper into your body, marking you as thoroughly on the inside as out. The harder [lyric.heShe] fucks you, the more you can feel the momentum of [lyric.hisHer] thick, heavy tail influencing [lyric.hisHer] motions, particularly as [lyric.heShe] sometimes struggles to pull out of you.

[lyric.domTrainingABC|As [lyric.heShe] pants and bucks, [lyric.hisHer] thrusting grows more insistent, but more haphazard, trading technique for mindless urgency. Most of [lyric.hisHer] footlong cock is pounding into your poor, stretched[pc.vagAss| cunny| [silly|booty|asshole]] by now – at least, you think. You can’t see anything other than Lyric’s face. “C-Can I – can you – are you,” [lyric.heShe] stutters, failing to finish [lyric.hisHer] sentence every time.

You don’t think [lyric.heShe]’s that close just yet, but rather than assume, you broadly say that you can take anything – <b>anything</b> – that [lyric.heShe] can give you.

“Thank you,” [lyric.heShe] says quickly.
Lyric fucks you with all the speed and experience of a master at work. Gone is the kobold that got so excited at the idea of fucking you that [lyric.heShe]’d put [lyric.himHer]self into a rut, and in its place is a dragon that knows exactly how fast and how deep to go, and when. [lyric.HisHer] strokes are long and full without going to deep, and [lyric.hisHer] pace is somewhere between ‘brisk’ and ‘pounding you into [atCamp|ground so hard that it caves the tent in|the bed so hard that it snaps in half]’.

“I’m g-gonna bottom out,” [lyric.heShe] says gruffly. [lyric.HisHer] eyes remain locked onto yours, watching for any reaction to the news. You don’t give [lyric.himHer] one that [lyric.heShe] doesn’t approve of. “Let me know if you need me to slow down.”

Assertive, takes the initiative, yet communicative, attentive, and empathetic to your needs. You’ve trained one hell of a dom.
The friction builds between you two, and the heat with it. Both of you pant with exertion, but neither of you want to slow down: [lyric.domTrainingABC|Lyric’s enthusiasm for you hasn’t changed since [lyric.heShe] was a kobold, and [lyric.heShe] fucks you like it’s the last opportunity [lyric.heShe]’s ever going to have. Shit, if [lyric.heShe] keeps going like this, you’ll go out of your way to make sure that that isn’t true.|no matter what sort of confident, in-control persona [lyric.heShe] wants to have with you, there’s no denying that the kobold that [lyric.heShe] was – the kobold that leapt at any and every opportunity to fuck you like it’ll be the last time [lyric.heShe]’ll ever get the chance – is still in there, and still has some influence on who and what [lyric.heShe] is now|[lyric.heShe] has the discipline to go slower, and the understanding that, sometimes, less is more… but [lyric.heShe] <b>also</b> understands that now isn’t the time for restraint. The in-control, confident personality that [lyric.heShe]’s crafted melts away to the same kobold that [lyric.heShe] always was underneath – the kobold that treated every opportunity to please you like it was the last one [lyric.heShe]’s ever going to get]. [lyric.HeShe] snarls nasally, sounding less like a booksmart dragon with a fascination in the natural sciences, and more like a rutting, feral beast, single-minded in [lyric.hisHer] focus to rut[pc.vagAss|, claim, and impregnate you with, hopefully, more dragons| and claim you. You, and your ass].
 

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Lyric was such a fun character to play with and explore. How she (for me it's fem-kobold forever) was found, and her story, and her growth. A little scientist and now scratching peoples' dragon itch. Plus feedable.

Updated Lyric with 2,500 words!
I am torn between respectfully noting the very, very few typos... (because it seems presumptive) and having to wait for it to go live so I can let Teawolf destroy them as Zen relaxation.
 

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wait wait wait, is tall!Lyric actually a dragon? because didnt wsan say no dragons? asidefrom those we have?
 

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Well done. Don't worry about the length, aftercare is important. That last part does beg the question of how Lyric would feel only siring/bearing kobolds. It would make for an interesting comparison with the main antagonist's motivations.

I also wonder how the same enthusiasm would be behind her girl form. Developing a taste for your seed is entirely in character, but would it go as far as bearing a fetish for bearing your eggs? Maybe there should be a Blank Powder option.
 

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Having a crossover with Meridyx would be pretty easy, though, especially since Meridyx would do all the talking for them both.
Oh, don't worry. Meridyx does that in spades.
 

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Updated Lyric with 2,500 words! I accidentally made the scene where you get mating pressed by a dragon really long. This scene is basically over now, it just needs some cooldown paragraphs.

I have to wonder if there will ever be a variant for non-bedicked Lyric for this scene, where instead she folds you and goes full snu-snu atop your tool in a reverse mating press. That would be incredibly hot, yet at the same time, I'd imagine it would take a lot to edit and write. But anyhow, great job with Ivaze, it's crazy to see just how much your writing has evolved.
 
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Updated Lyric with 2,300 words! This finishes the scene where Lyric mating presses you, and it gets started on the scene where you tap their booty. It's going to be a big one because their booty has a bunch of parsers associated with it.
[lyric.domTrainingABC|“H-How was that?” [lyric.heShe] asks as [lyric.hisHer] mouth curls into a nervous smile. Knowing [lyric.himHer], it’s an actual question. What are you supposed to say? Is [lyric.heShe] expecting you to grade [lyric.hisHer] work on a letter scale?

In response, you bap [lyric.himHer] on the nose and tell [lyric.himHer] that now’s the time for rest.|“G-Good for one more?” [lyric.heShe] asks, trying to keep a smug, cocksure grin on [lyric.hisHer] face. Although [lyric.hisHer] eyes burn with exuberance, [lyric.hisHer] smile doesn’t reach [lyric.hisHer] cheeks, and [lyric.hisHer] tone is unsteady.

You ask [lyric.himHer] if <b>[lyric.heShe]’s</b> ‘good for one more’. [lyric.HeShe]’s a dragon now: does [lyric.heShe] have the famed stamina and virility that dragons are known for?

“No,” [lyric.heShe] says once with a single, sheepish laugh. “Not for a little while, anyway.”

‘A little while’ sounds like a good break to you.|[lyric.HeShe] opens [lyric.hisHer] mouth and tilts [lyric.hisHer] head to one side, about to speak – but then reconsiders and closes [lyric.hisHer] mouth, letting [lyric.hisHer] jaw relax into a long, satisfied smile. A good lover not only knows how to treat their partner: they also know when enough is enough. As the words form on Lyric’s tongue, they vanish. Nothing more <b>needs</b> to be said.

But that’s not to say that there’s nothing to do. With a low, rumbling purr emanating from [lyric.hisHer] throat, Lyric leans down and nuzzles the side of [lyric.hisHer] muzzle against your cheek. Something that no amount of words, no matter how eloquent, could convey.

You return the sentiment, pressing your cheek against [lyric.hisHer] muzzle to increase the friction. It’s time to rest.]
Lyric [lyric.domTrainingABC|sights|snorts|purrs] as you continue to explore [lyric.hisHer] ass with your hands. [lyric.HeShe] presses forward, grinding [lyric.hisHer] crotch against you, in part to give you better access, and in part to enjoy the tactile sensation of [lyric.hisHer] [lyric.hasCock|cock|pussy] grinding against [pc.hasCock|your own|your shaft], leaving slimy trails of [lyric.hisHer] own fluids to mingle with yours. “[lyric.domTrainingABC|You know that my body belongs to you, whenever and however you want, [pc.name],” [lyric.heShe] gasps. “But… wouldn’t you rather… take this a little… further?”

[lyric.HeShe]’s starting to get a little impatient from all the foreplay. And, frankly, so are you. There’s only so much ‘admiring’ a dragon’s ass that a [pc.race] can take before they need to take the next step. And, thankfully, this dragon is more than ready and willing.|We could take this a step further,” Lyric muses. [lyric.HisHer] right hand comes between your bodies, and [lyric.hisHer] index finger lightly nudges the tip of your [pc.cock]. “But, hmm… have you earned the privilege, I wonder?”

You snort back a laugh and ask Lyric if <b>[lyric.heShe]</b> deserves to have <b>you</b>. [lyric.HeShe] can act all confident and dominant [lyric.heShe] wants, but if you asked to have [lyric.himHer], anytime, anywhere, you both know that [lyric.heShe]’d give [lyric.himHer]self to you.

The corners of [lyric.hisHer] mouth slip into a sly smile. “You have me figured out,” [lyric.heShe] answers. “But in that case… let’s finish with the games and move on to the event, hmm?”

That, you can agree with.
I can act like the big, dominant, in-control dragon all I want, but you and I both know, [pc.name], that you don’t belong to me – that I belong to you.” [lyric.HeShe] pauses, [lyric.hisHer] tongue coming out to wet [lyric.hisHer] lips. “You could bend me over the middle of the street in Hawkethorne, or, mmm… the middle of your court in the Wayfort… and I’d take whatever you gave me, right there, on the spot.”

In equal parts, it’s a hot idea. You have a full, proper, eight-foot-tall dragon at your every beck and call, no matter how lascivious. But, on the other hand… you almost want [lyric.himHer] to do that to <b>you</b>. You and [lyric.heShe] went through such lengths to turn [lyric.himHer] into the confident lover that [lyric.heShe] is now, after all.

“That’s what I’m trying to say,” [lyric.heShe] continues. “You mean more to me than any societal taboos, like having sex in public, could get in the way of. I’m a dragon – what are they going to do, tell me no?”

You want to laugh, but instead, you take a sharp inhale through your nose. You take in a long, heady whiff of Lyric’s natural musk – the scent wafting from [lyric.hasCock|[lyric.hisHer] thick, conical cock, throbbing and occasionally spurting with pre[lyric.hasVagina|, mixed with]][lyric.hasVagina|[lyric.hisHer] pungent pussy pheromones, guiding anyone with hot blood and a working cock to [lyric.hisHer] honeypot].

“The point is, [pc.name], you can have me whenever you want,” [lyric.heShe] continues. “So enough with the games. Your dragon’s ass needs something more substantial than your hands.”

You have to admit, [lyric.heShe]’s saying all the right words.
 
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