PLAN B

[LonelyHydra]

To say I've been waiting for the big kobold dragon for a long time would be an understatement. I have notes:

- Have you ever thought about writing Lyric as asexual outright? It'd explain a lot about them, and it's a classic savant archetype. Adding dragon hormones would complicate things, of course.

- Tying boobs/balls to gender identity is clever. I actually think it's a good idea to hint at this early. Like when you discuss "futadom" with her/him,

Spoiler: and I hope you don't mind me taking the liberty of messing with your writing: (If you do, Sorry, I'll take it down.)

(...)
Alchemy makes it fairly trivial to make a lot of adjustments to a person’s body, whether it’s anything from changing their hair color to doing something as wild as having a person grow new sexual body parts.

"Like... breasts?", the kobold wonders. [lyric.mf|"I can't really say I'd see myself having a pair, you know?" He raises his arms to strike a strongman pose, as if to show his pride as well as his point.|"It would be nice have a bust as big as the queen's." She looks down to grasp a pair of non-existant, but quite large, orbs on herself.]

That's not what you meant. (...)

- Seriously, no notes on the sexified variation of the feeding scene. How long do we have to wait before the King/Queen starts feeding us treats, perhaps of the alchemical kind?

- Everyone's focused on the stuff after, but don't think I didn't notice that jab there. Not judging, worth a chuckle. Has Arona even met with any kitsune before Kiyoko?

I'm curious - how would you suggest they reconcile?

Lyric was a slave, captured by orcs.
Arona is an orc slaver, unrepentant and unapologetic for her and her people's work. She and Kervus had never dealt with trading kobolds, but she still captures and sells people for a living/her own pleasure.

How should these two compromise?

Okay, here's my take. Things to keep in mind:
1. What we have here is what the roleplayers of old would call "alignment differences". I wouldn't expect them to reconcile, so much as trust the PC's leadership and agree to disagree.
2. I'd expect how Arona views the PC, to dom or sub, to be a factor as well.
3. I understand why you don't want this to end in sex, this should be taken seriously, but it's entirely in character for both Arona to make a pass when Lyric settles down, as much as Lyric would recoil at the thought (out of offense, if nothing else). Domination through sex has been largely normalized within orc culture, if not the setting as a whole. It's not like Orcs don't understand the concept of consent, just ask Hretha. It's that they assume everyone, themselves included, is a low-key masochist.
(For some reason, these two remind me of Amily vs Marble back in CoC1. Crazy times.)
4. Given the setting is a post-Roman Empire pastiche, it helps to do research on the actual Roman Empire. Failing that, crib from media about the Roman Empire. I'm reminded of The Forgotten City:

“Don’t your laws allow slave ownership?”

Sentius: “Of course. What else would we do with those prisoners of war who would otherwise have been executed? And besides, there are laws for their protection as well.”

I wouldn't expect Pure Champs to necessarily buy such a reductive picture about slavery, but treat slaves as best as they can. I assume Tainted Champs to admit they just like the sex.

 

[MarcoPolo121]

Has Arona even met with any kitsune before Kiyoko?

Unlikely, unless you recruit her before you go into the northern forest and meet the three Kitsune scouts trying to get back home. Or have her in the party when exploring the land north of the Wayfort or entering the Kitsune Den.

 

[Gothamson]

I'm gonna throw out a question completely unrelated to this incredibly heavy topic.

Have you ever considered a scene for Lyric where they get rutted by the player? They're pretty small obviously so a heat variant would work too.

 

[dl770041]

If there is going to be a rutting scene I rather have futa lyric rut my champ, instead, especially if its tall(dom) lyric, so my champ can have all her eggs, lol.

 

[Gothamson]

If there is going to be a rutting scene I rather have futa lyric rut my champ, instead, especially if its tall(dom) lyric, so my champ can have all her eggs, lol.

I feel like aside from the recruitment scene we haven't had a chance to really strain the hero worship angle for Lyric. Granted they shows the trait often but I really want to see her kind of second guess it before jumping headlong into something intense.

 

[Karakara]

Thinking on this though, we do have one actual slave to the champion in the game. Jael'yn. She actually has a magic slave collar and has to listen to whatever you say. She is literally your slave. Her free will can literally be controlled by the champion (whether you have the intention to or not - the control is there.)

Jaelyn is so close to feeling like a slave, but there are couple of things that are preventing it.

First off, she is forced on us. You can bit refuse/kill her, Ryn just says that you take her and you take her.

Second, her slave status is questionable. While we have control over her dick, that is all we really have. We can not really order her around and she sexes other people.

Thirdly, not really fan of her and Daliza content. It kind of feels weird that what is supposed to be my slave has a lover arc with my lover. Slavery in sexual games to me should be centered around the player.

So yeah, not really a slave material in my book.

 

[Sidrake]

Can I Have a suggest, can we sleep with tall and small lyric like etheryn, Dal,... like she come a time and ask if we accept that because she like/love you, like a shy demand.

 

[dl770041]

Jaelyn is so close to feeling like a slave, but there are couple of things that are preventing it.

First off, she is forced on us. You can bit refuse/kill her, Ryn just says that you take her and you take her.

Second, her slave status is questionable. While we have control over her dick, that is all we really have. We can not really order her around and she sexes other people.

Thirdly, not really fan of her and Daliza content. It kind of feels weird that what is supposed to be my slave has a lover arc with my lover. Slavery in sexual games to me should be centered around the player.

So yeah, not really a slave material in my book.

From what I can tell the daliza and jael'yn content, if you don't start a threesome with them both, then daliza will just keep a platonic relationship and nothing sexual happen between them both, which personally I prefer, like daliza is aware of jael'yn's circumstances but wouldn't do anything sexual to her unless pushed into it, by the player.

 

[acobracadabra]

You know, just thought of something funny. Once Lyric becomes beeg, there should be a scene where she puts you in her clothes to stealth sex her rather vice versa when she/he was a kobold. How the turntables.

 

[B]

I'll respond to all these posts later; it's 7:30 AM and I haven't slept yet

Took last week off because I didn't feel well in the head. But, updated Lyric with 10k words! Multiple scenes, some logistic, some sexy, including one sex scene where, if Lyric has a dick and you're short, then Lyric can pick YOU up and carry YOU around on their dick!

You tell Lyric that Ivris’s shop seems awfully cramped for someone of [lyric.hisHer] size, and suggest that [lyric.heShe] might enjoy getting out into the fresh air with you for a little while.

“No, I’m fine,” Lyric replies with a genuine smile and a swish of [lyric.hisHer] tail. “I know I’m much bigger, now, and I sometimes bump my head on the door frame, but I’m actually pretty cozy right here, where I am. And Ivris is so nice and accommodating, too.”

You stare at Lyric. [lyric.HeShe] stares back, oblivious.

“Oh!” [lyric.heShe] says, jolting in place as the realization hits [lyric.himHer] like a thunderbolt. “You want me to – right! Yes, sorry!” [lyric.HeShe] raps [lyric.hisHer] knuckles against [lyric.hisHer] own head, like [lyric.heShe] was knocking on a door. “I still got chemistry on the brain for a bit. And you asked me about Ivris, and I got all twisted and turned around. Yes, we can leave immediately!”

Lyric turns towards [lyric.hisHer] little table to swipe a few vials, waterskins, and ingredients, stuffing things into various pockets along [lyric.hisHer] tunic and into the pockets on [lyric.hisHer] belts. “Okay!” [lyric.heShe] says with one last bounce on [lyric.hisHer] feet. “Onward, [pc.name]!”

You forgive [lyric.himHer], but you note that you’re a bit surprised. You two are already intimate, and [lyric.heShe] has your permission to touch you, but like you said, [lyric.heShe]’s normally so good about asking for permission before impressing [lyric.himHer]self onto you like that. That said, if you didn’t like it, you would have told [lyric.himHer] to stop – and there’s something hot about your partner being so into you that they can barely help themselves.

“Well… yeah,” [lyric.heShe] admits. [lyric.HisHer] tail swishes lazily behind [lyric.himHer]self: [lyric.hisHer] words say that [lyric.heShe]’s sorry, but [lyric.hisHer] tone and body language imply something very different[lyric.hasCock|. And so does the barely-concealed bulge in the bottom hem of [lyric.hisHer] tunic]. “I’ve only ever felt this way once before: in the Undermountain, when I first met the Kobold Queen.”

What way? Horny? Does that mean [lyric.heShe]’s never felt horny around you?

“Not horny,” [lyric.heShe] says, then reconsiders. “Well, yes, horny. But… no, something else. Something…” [lyric.heShe] trails off, [lyric.hisHer] finger tapping on [lyric.hisHer] chin as [lyric.heShe] considers how to explain it.

“Subservient,” [lyric.heShe] eventually settles on.

[pc.isBimbo|Subby? [lyric.HeShe]’s suddenly feeling particularly subby around you?|Subservient? As in, [lyric.heShe] needs you to command [lyric.himHer] to do something?]

“Listen, I – I need you to tell me to do something,” [lyric.heShe] suddenly blurts out. [lyric.HisHer] tail thumps against the ground once. “A-And I’d appreciate it if you told me to do something sexy. Like… like telling me to bend over and present[lyric.hasCock|, o-or telling me to rut you as hard as I can]. Or telling – commanding me to service you orally. Something. <b>Anything</b>.”

… You think you’re going to have a lot of fun with whatever instincts you’ve just unlocked in Lyric.

[lyric.HisHer] voice snaps you out of your daze, and you take a quick, sharp inhale through your nose, getting in a fat lungful of [lyric.hisHer] scent. You tell Lyric that you want [lyric.himHer] to do the thing again.

“‘The thing’?” [lyric.heShe] repeats incredulously, but given how [lyric.hisHer] cock throbs, and a string of clear pre forms and slips down the smooth underside of [lyric.hisHer] twelve-inch dick, [lyric.heShe] has a good idea of what, exactly, you want. “You mean… the thing where I lift you up and turn you into a warm, wet sock for my cock?”

Yes, please.

The tip of [lyric.hisHer] tongue slips from [lyric.hisHer] lips, streaking across their length. “Since you asked politely.”

“It’s good to know that I excite you almost as much as you excite me,” [lyric.heShe] purrs. “Kobold or dragon… I could suck this cock all day long and I’d never have enough of you, [pc.name].”

[lyric.domTrainingABC|You place your hand on Lyric’s head, your thumb lightly stroking the scales on [lyric.hisHer] forehead between [lyric.hisHer] horns, petting [lyric.himHer] gently. You’ve never been known for having a weak libido. It’s good to know that you have at least <b>one</b> willing mouth whenever you want it.

“By the Gods, just say the word,” [lyric.heShe] insists. “Anywhere, anytime.”|You reach down with your left hand and gently wrap your fingers around Lyric’s right horn. [lyric.HeShe] purrs, but it comes out as a lower growl, almost like [lyric.heShe]’s daring you to do something bolder. You tell [lyric.himHer] that if [lyric.heShe]’s ever hungry for [pc.race] dick, it’s never going to be too far away.

“Mmm, careful with your promises,” [lyric.heShe] says as [lyric.hisHer] tongue slips out. “Because I might just have an appetite to match your libido.”|[lyric.HeShe] takes a long, slow drag of your scent, burying [lyric.hisHer] nose at the base of your shaft. You reach down to place your hand on [lyric.hisHer] head, and as soon as your hand touches down, [lyric.hisHer] eyes snap open, those golden discs focusing on yours with a hungry, feral intensity.

“It’s a good thing your libido is as legendary as it is,” [lyric.heShe] continues, [lyric.hisHer] voice lower and huskier. “So I can have it whenever, wherever I want, and I know you’ll always have the energy to match my appetite.”

You… don’t think you’ve ever had your own libido weaponized against you like that before. You aren’t sure if it’s a promise or a threat.]

 

[B]

Updated Lyric with 9,000 words! This finishes the scene where Lyric blows you; it does the entirety of Lyric sitting on your face, with lots of variance based on how thicc you've made them; and it gets started on a slower, more sensual scene where Lyric big spoons you!

“[lyric.domTrainingABC|You come straight to me when you have any more to spare, [pc.name],” [lyric.heShe] says huskily, [lyric.hisHer] tongue slipping out to lick at [lyric.hisHer] lips once more. “Gods, you’re like a drug to me.”

If [lyric.heShe] keeps up the unabashed cumsluttery, you’re no doubt going to have another fresh load for [lyric.himHer] in a hurry.

“That’s what I like to hear,” [lyric.heShe] says, biting into [lyric.hisHer] lower lip.|I love seeing you lose your control with me, [pc.name],” [lyric.heShe] says huskily, [lyric.hisHer] tongue slipping out to lick at [lyric.hisHer] lips once more. “I don’t know if it’s because it’s you, or because I’m a dragon, but making you cum like that makes me feel so… accomplished. Powerful, in a way.”

It takes a particular mindsight to get your face fucked and come away from it thinking that <b>you</b> were the one with the power the entire time.

“I could have stopped,” [lyric.heShe] notes. “And you would have begged me to start again.”

You don’t respond. Lyric smirks knowingly, triumphantly.|And now, I have an appetite for all things [pc.name] flavor,” [lyric.heShe] says huskily, [lyric.hisHer] tongue slipping out to lick at [lyric.hisHer] lips once more. “The next time I get a craving, I know just who to go to for my fix.”

Not many tops are the ones repeatedly getting on their knees to suck off their bottoms.

“The difference, [pc.name], is assertion. There’s a difference between ‘can I suck you off?’ and ‘I’m going to suck you off right now.’” [lyric.HeShe] smiles wryly. “Of course, you’re free to tell me ‘no’ whenever you’d like…”

You don’t respond. You know that you’re not going to deny Lyric, and [lyric.heShe] knows that you won’t. [lyric.HeShe]’s won this round.]

At first, you don’t respond, preferring to press your front to Lyric’s so you can enjoy more of [lyric.hisHer] ass in your hands. The circumference, the heft, the way [lyric.hisHer] scales so smoothly meld from one into the other in a way that skin and fur could never replicate. You could spend all day grabbing it like you are now. You imagine lying down and using just one cheek as a pillow[lyric.electrumRange 0 400||. Hell, you could use the whole damn thing as a blanket].

You want it on your face. The words just kind of blurt out of your mouth.

Lyric tilts [lyric.hisHer] head to one side, rising one arch of [lyric.hisHer] brow skeptically. “[pc.name], you might actually die if I do that,” [lyric.heShe] warns. [lyric.HeShe] reaches back with [lyric.hisHer] left hand and gives [lyric.hisHer] own rump a hearty slap. The impact echoes through the [atCamp|tent|room] like [lyric.heShe] just slapped a quilt. “I use this as a weapon in altercations. That’s a whole lot of ass to be buried under.”

If you die, you die a warrior’s death.

Lyric laughs once at that. “Don’t say I didn’t warn you.”

Now that Lyric is so enormous, you have a… a request, that’s a bit mild compared to some other positions and fantasies.

Lyric’s brow curls upward in slight surprise, and [lyric.heShe] purses [lyric.hisHer] lips together. “Something ‘mild’?” [lyric.heShe] repeats. “[pc.name], I can promise you, every time I’m with you, I feel like I could fall into the sky.”

That’s an… oddly romantic thing for [lyric.himHer] to say.

“Well, what I mean is,” [lyric.heShe] continues, “whatever it is you want, I’m willing to do. I’m your dragon just as much as you’re my [pc.race].”

 

[B]

To say I've been waiting for the big kobold dragon for a long time would be an understatement. I have notes:

- Have you ever thought about writing Lyric as asexual outright? It'd explain a lot about them, and it's a classic savant archetype. Adding dragon hormones would complicate things, of course.

While it's an interesting idea, perhaps saying that Lyric is asexual-except-for-the-PC might makes things a little complicated. Lyric admits to having fantasies of their Village Mother in this expack (this being before Lyric met the PC), and while it's an easy enough line to cut out, making them ace feels like it'd clutter their character a bit.

To say I've been waiting for the big kobold dragon for a long time would be an understatement. I have notes:

- Have you ever thought about writing Lyric as asexual outright? It'd explain a lot about them, and it's a classic savant archetype. Adding dragon hormones would complicate things, of course.

- Tying boobs/balls to gender identity is clever. I actually think it's a good idea to hint at this early. Like when you discuss "futadom" with her/him,

Spoiler: and I hope you don't mind me taking the liberty of messing with your writing: (If you do, Sorry, I'll take it down.)

(...)
Alchemy makes it fairly trivial to make a lot of adjustments to a person’s body, whether it’s anything from changing their hair color to doing something as wild as having a person grow new sexual body parts.

"Like... breasts?", the kobold wonders. [lyric.mf|"I can't really say I'd see myself having a pair, you know?" He raises his arms to strike a strongman pose, as if to show his pride as well as his point.|"It would be nice have a bust as big as the queen's." She looks down to grasp a pair of non-existant, but quite large, orbs on herself.]

That's not what you meant. (...)

I was mostly going to port Lyric's futa and preg scenes for Tall Lyric. But I'll keep this suggestion in mind.

Okay, here's my take. Things to keep in mind:

Mmm, most of these are contingent on Arona's input. I'm going to wait until Savin reviews it to see if there's anything he'd like added or removed wrt Arona's character.

I'm gonna throw out a question completely unrelated to this incredibly heavy topic.

Have you ever considered a scene for Lyric where they get rutted by the player? They're pretty small obviously so a heat variant would work too.

Oooh, Lyric going into rut/heat could be a fun scene! It'd have to be sometime later, though; it'd require a bit of setup and I don't want Tall Lyric to have too much more content than Base Lyric.

Can I Have a suggest, can we sleep with tall and small lyric like etheryn, Dal,... like she come a time and ask if we accept that because she like/love you, like a shy demand.

Someone once wrote a sleep-with doc for Lyric that I never got around to reviewing. I really should...

You know, just thought of something funny. Once Lyric becomes beeg, there should be a scene where she puts you in her clothes to stealth sex her rather vice versa when she/he was a kobold. How the turntables.

If I ever write public sex with Tall Lyric, it's probably not going to be discrete. Tall Lyric's clothes are written as being damn-near skintight - their clothes did not grow with the rest of them, because Character Growth But The Clothes Stay The Same Size is an underappreciated fetish.

Although, I suppose there's nothing stopping them from putting on different clothes for the express purpose of stealth sex.

 

[LonelyHydra]

While it's an interesting idea, perhaps saying that Lyric is asexual-except-for-the-PC might makes things a little complicated. Lyric admits to having fantasies of their Village Mother in this expack (this being before Lyric met the PC), and while it's an easy enough line to cut out, making them ace feels like it'd clutter their character a bit.

Many aces go through some kinky sh*t before they figure themselves out, there's actually a high-profile example from the furry fandom, but I see your point. It'd be a good idea to examine Lyric's past sexual history. If nothing else, the issue may be you did such a good job making them an ideal pet that crossing the line feels like actual bestiality.

I was mostly going to port Lyric's futa and preg scenes for Tall Lyric. But I'll keep this suggestion in mind.

So how do you think tallness would affect her pregnancies going forward? Would it enhance her fertility, to lay bigger clutches? Would her dragon traits pass on to her kids? If not, would her newfound dragonic instincts lead her to create more "minions"?

That last one is, I suspect, pretty much the inspiration behind the creation of much Bowser mpreg art and fanfiction. You should look some up for yourself. I remember a doujin that was a fun read.

 

[B]

If nothing else, the issue may be you did such a good job making them an ideal pet that crossing the line feels like actual bestiality.

I have no idea how to respond to this

So how do you think tallness would affect her pregnancies going forward? Would it enhance her fertility, to lay bigger clutches? Would her dragon traits pass on to her kids? If not, would her newfound dragonic instincts lead her to create more "minions"?

That last one is, I suspect, pretty much the inspiration behind the creation of much Bowser mpreg art and fanfiction. You should look some up for yourself. I remember a doujin that was a fun read.

Savin already vetoed Lyric giving birth to more dragons, so Tall Lyric will give birth to/sire more kobolds. Lyric mentions that dragons of mythology have hoards, typically of shiny things, but I was going to have Lyric say that their hoard consists of exactly one thing: you. I could throw in a line about Lyric thinking of your kids with them as adding to the hoard, maybe, if I can make it sound not-weird.

And uhhh, I'll pass on the Bowser mpreg. I appreciate that you were considerate enough of me and my interests to bring it up, though.

 

[MarcoPolo121]

Dragons coming back is a neat idea, but I guess it would make them less special. I personally would love for Ashelander to become corporeal and make Daliza's brain explode with mixed reverence and horny brain, but I don't see it happening.

 

[Sidrake]

It's sad we cannot give a dragon baby for Lyric but I suppose Savin have a good reason of this, however, we have a other way with the black dragon blood^^ and I hope have a spécial baby with Lyric, like Freja and see child interaction^^ perhaps a Kobold child with Dragon character like wings, horns, a long tail and more tall than the other kobold, an half-blood but it's just an idea^^. The idea to see Lyric in heat his great, i can imagine that^^. I hope see soon the result for this project.^^

 

[LonelyHydra]

(Repost to remove memes. Never try to meme your way out of a hole you dug for yourself, kids.)

I have no idea how to respond to this

It was meant to be a compliment, I swear. You know those graphs used to explain the uncanny valley? Petification is the inverse of that graph, and Lyric might be on the far right of the line. No one want to fuck their Charmander. More want to fuck a Charizard, so I can't wait.

While I have my foot in my mouth, there should definitely be a footplay scene. Entirely in character for Lyric's to have pre-cleaned their feet with sweet oils to lick.

I could throw in a line about Lyric thinking of your kids with them as adding to the hoard, maybe, if I can make it sound not-weird.

Don't worry about making it not-weird, just make it fun to read. That's the essence of camp, bae-by!

And uhhh, I'll pass on the Bowser mpreg. I appreciate that you were considerate enough of me and my interests to bring it up, though.

Do seriously think about taking notes on him for inspiration, for character not porn. There are more connections between Koopa King and Kobold King than you'd think.

Actually, do you have any specific reference points you use in your writing? In general, if not for this character.

 

[Gothamson]

I was speaking more in terms of small Lyric getting overwhelmed by a rut/heat champion. It was in order to play into Lyric's hero worship, essentially causing them to agree to something they hadn't thought entirely through.

Giant Lyric having their own scene with the opposite dynamoc also sounds great but I really think Lyric's champ fetish as ground left to tred.

 

[LonelyHydra]

Ok, last suggestion, I promise: Sleep with scene with Lyric as body pillow.