What content would you like added?

WolframL

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No stepping into the pink hair, that's Caits thing
She hasn't complained about my Cowgirlchamp sharing her hair color so far. Maybe the secret is to keep her happy by regularly eating her out xD
Cinderscale Salamanders can have pink hair, but you are going to have to savescum for a while eating Laurel Sprig Cinderleaf.
Also Glitter Dust, with the same one-in-four chance of pink being the one you get.

It's funny, I hadn't even realized pink wasn't one of the options for the stylists. Both their shops could probably use a slight tweak anyways, since they have the red eye lenses listed first, then the growth items, then the rest of the eye lenses instead of grouping all the lenses together.
 

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Speaking of Stylists, I wish they could provide some coverings for skin color as well like the old COC1 oils, at least the "normal" types of pale through brown maybe leaving exotic ones like purple behind TF items. Specifically what I want is the ability to just have tan skin, as opposed to either pale or bronze, this is a skin color that several NPCs in game has (Liaden and Calise at least) but is unattainable as far as I know for players outside of save editing.
 

WolframL

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Ashen Leaf can give tan skin but it can't be refined so you're rolling the dice on whether a skin transformation procs at all and it's the one you want and how many other things you might get that you don't want and have to try and revert.
 
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Also Ice Wine, and yeah it needs savescumming, which I did a bit back for my current character (specifically for pink hair, coincidentally)
Ice Wine only lowers your libido, it doesn't do anything else. If you mean Ice Rose I don't think that can give pink hair (I think it goes from blonde to white to blueish), but I'm uncertain and may be wrong.
 

Tide Hunter

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Ice Wine only lowers your libido, it doesn't do anything else. If you mean Ice Rose I don't think that can give pink hair (I think it goes from blonde to white to blueish), but I'm uncertain and may be wrong.
Ice Rose, yeah. That's what I was thinking of. Ice Wine was just a similar name.
 

morii

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I'm curious. Will the Nareva soulbind require you to be feminine intersex? Will the dragon TF lock you into a certain genital config?

I don't mind either way, but I'm wondering what other people are thinking.
 

WolframL

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We have no idea on what the dragon TF will look like (aside from 'humanoid' because those be the Rules) but we do have a definitive statement from Savin on the Astrida TF. After going back and forth on it for a while, he decided that while normally they're all dickgirls, the Champ is allowed to be an exception.

EDIT: Here's the quote for the curious:
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Sacremas

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I'm just going to put this here with no real explanation and not even apologize about the coming back and forth argument, which I have already acquired snacks for.

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Sacremas

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Sigh, no one falling for my bait? Oh well.

Meanwhile, anyone know if the rumored rework of the Hornet Hive is far off? Just asking as I have a restartitis character that's basically right before it that I wouldn't mind parking for a month or two if it's likely to be part of the ongoing Azzy/Liaden stuff.

And while at it, actual content-I-want-added; while the Bimbo Hornet cuddle-puddle while watching Azzy and Liaden cleanse the hive is nice, I wish the more arcane oriented had an opportunity to actually help them, specifically White and Black Mages, to at least get a chance to choose if they want to lend their power to it, or go cuddle. Lamely shrugging as an Acolyte or Arcanist as to what happened when they cleanse things just feels stupid, and like my character is rather incompetent at what they should know. It's fine for a warrior, thief or charmer, but at the very least an actual mage should get more insight into what happened. Maybe even be able to tell Azzy and Liaden what precisely happened at that, given they are paladin types rather than priests or mages, and newbies at that. Could even ideally be degrees of knowledge depending on White Mage/Black Mage/Arcanist/Acolyte/Scholar class and background combos.
 

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Do we have a world map? It's hard to keep up with places without one
I think I saw this asked before, and then the answer was only in general relation to the existing areas, at this point in dev, Savin wants to keep options open as to where things might be placed down and where places not in the game world yet can be found in relation to existing areas, so they can be moved around in case it serves the story better, or something new placed between them etc. So no, not yet at least.
 

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This is a technical one, and may not even be feasible:

For mobile, the ability to long-press ability cards to be able to read full descriptions. Perhaps if they populated the Item Description section of the UI until you click out
 
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WolframL

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What's the sentient gear and where do you find it? I too love the living clothes stuff.
Not actually clothing in this case but a magical weapon. You obtain it automatically when you complete Teatime for Dragons. The patch notes hint at something important about it.
 
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This is a technical one, and may not even be feasible:

For mobile, the ability to long-press ability cards to be able to read full descriptions. Perhaps if they populated the Item Description section of the UI until you click out
Adding on to this, some powers overflow their cards far enough they get cut off for me, so an option to have the power card just listed in the normal text screen or something like that would be appreciated, or just a full screen card of some type- Summon Kiyoko and Sun of Jassira being some easy to locate examples, but there are also some on enemies that irk me. I've tried changing my text size, but that doesn't help much for the card text.
 
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I want more options for who gets the dragon spear besides Azzy and Evelyn. Like Cait and Kiyoko, they're both descended from royalty so they could qualify for the spear. Would probably be hell for the parsers, but it would funny to see how the spear influences them. Like maybe we'd get an aggressive power bottom Cait or a more possessive Kiyoko. Maybe Arona? She's the chieftain of her tribe which is like orc royalty. Should be fair game since Azzy counts as royalty in her hive. Or let the PC take a crack at pulling the spear. I'd imagine corrupt PCs at least would want a shot at claiming the power of a conqueror and they're self-centered enough to either see themselves as Kas's future king/queen or their own self-made lord/lady of darkness that maybe the spear will recognize them as a progenitor of a future royal line. And if it doesn't, maybe corrupting the spear using the lethicite shard we picked up as a catalyst would make it see reason. I really want to be a dragon.
 

WolframL

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Yeah... Cait and Kiyoko have been nixed on Discord. In Cait's case Savin pointed out that she's multiple generations removed from actual royalty which makes her not royal enough, and also she already has too many variables to add a whole new appearance and path for her even if that wasn't the case. And outside Ryn who can't take the spear for Story Reasons, she was the closest to being a valid candidate.

Likewise, just being in charge of a group or territory has been said to be not enough. The old lupine jarls were specifically called out as such by Tobs, which means that local chieftain figures (like Atani) or the children thereof (like Ahmri) don't count either, and neither does self-proclaimed or planned future royalty so the Champ is out. There's been a whole discussion on the topic over on the Discord server. TLDR is that the pool of people who meet the spear's definition of royalty is extremely small.

You can become a dragon-morph via an upcoming TF though.
 
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Mouseling

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becoming a dragon is the lesser of it to me, it's just annoying that to finish the quest it has to be either

1. a person who will be removed from the game if you don't have sex with her
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2. a girl who despite being cute I don't really have any interest in and would likely never use again unless another quest resolution was locked behind her


I understand it is very unlikely that another way for the quest to go would be written since that takes time and effort plus there are two characters who had an expansion due to how much needed to change post quest, still, wish there was
 

morii

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Are there plans to include a horse cock as a wyld mark in the character creation menu for the elves?
 
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@Mouseling
I'm with you on not being too fond of either choice. A point in favor of having a PC resolution option is that it is possible to have removed Evelyn and bimbo'd Azzy leaving you with no choice at all to complete the quest. There's also the case where you only have Evelyn as an option and if you enjoy her base content as is, then you may want not want to gift her the dragon spear which also means leaving the quest unfinished.

If we can't pull the spear out ourselves and don't want to or can't gift the spear to someone else, then I think it should be possible for the PC to look into other options. A good bet would be seeking out Sanders, he's a good egg and seems like he would do his best to help you aid Ashe. Or if all else fails, maybe a mercy killing would be necessary to end her suffering.

@WolframL
Thanks for the info, but now I'm even more confused about what metric the spear uses to determine who is royalty or not. Does bloodline matter if Caits royal lineage is too thin? If that's the case, does that mean any ol' Vesparan can pluck the spear out since they're all descended from a hornet queen? If having territory and people under your command isn't important, then could someone like the Drider Queen take it as well because she's technically a queen in the same vein as a hornet queen? I'm not surprised that there's been discussion about this on the Discord server, the dang thing doesn't make much sense. Like why the heck does it give the owner dragon powers to begin with if it is seemingly jotun in origin? Is it possible for Azzy to turn into a full dragon like Evelyn can or did the power manifest in different ways? So many questions...

As for the TF that's nice to hear but doesn't really scratch the same itch as being an actual dragon does. Still good to have that option.



More on the idea of a corrupt PC resolving the quest by claiming the spear for themselves, becoming a corrupt dragon could be an alternative to soulbinding. Spoilered below is how I think it could realistically be handled:
  • Permanent Dark Knight personality, Corruption can no longer go below 50
  • Height +2 feet
  • Tone +30
  • Permanent dragon arms, legs, tail, eyes, wings, ears, and horns
  • Scale color set as black, red, or purple
You'd be stuck with dragon bits and a 'conqueror' personality, but you'd be able to shrink back down with TFs if you wanted your evil dragon to be a short king or shortstack and you'd still be able to give your scales a dye job if the colors aren't you. Similar to how Keros can reincarnate you if foreign TFs somehow sneak in, you'd be able to reflect upon the spear and have your form reset.

As for consequences, you would be locked out of Ashe and be unable to be godsworn. The excuse could be that your draconic/conqueror nature refuses to let you take their oath since being bound by them may impede your future conquests.

In return. you'd be able to temporarily assume the form of a full dragon for sex scenes with larger npcs like the jotuns, kobold queen, or the behemoth. I'd also put up Daliza as a candidate for some dragon loving. You'd receive a set of dragon powers like a unique version of Dragon's Breath that dishes out blight/fire (unholy flame) damage instead of just fire and have it scale with either attack power or spellpower, whichever is highest. The ultimate could be you assuming your full dragon form for X amount of turns, with X being your character level.
 

zagzig

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There hasn't really been a definitive answer to the royalty question, as far as I can tell. Tobs posited that there's an inherent quality to royalty, divinely given, that makes these high-status people suited to rule and also gives them the ability to pull out the spear. But then the question is "so what's up with the hornets then?" And the answer given thus far is shrug

Another dev has posited that Ahmri could be an option, though it seemed like idle musing rather than "and I will be the one to write this and it's definitely getting into the game". And the writer for Lyla said they believe she could count and might check with Savin about it.

My takeaway is that it's arbitrary magic powered by plot convenience, and it will turn out that any character who has an author willing to do the work will qualify for spear removal.
 
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So it’s an ‘it just werks’ type of spear, huh? Kind of figured that’d be the case.
 

zagzig

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All that being said, it's entirely possible that there is an in-universe explanation that explains how Azyrran is royal enough to remove the spear because hornets call themselves Queens rather than Jarls, and Cait isn't royal enough because the spear can tell when your bloodline isn't in power anymore, and I just haven't heard it or thought of it.

Also, I would be cautious about loading up expacs for the spear. While we do need at least one for the people who managed to lock themselves out of Azzy and Eve, any third option written for the spear will need to compete with a mutually exclusive companion set and personality, and a really hot Evelyn expac with massive implications for the world going forward. No matter how good another option is, it probably won't be seen by a lot of players.
 

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Id love a second bird race with the option to be male maybe to make them different they have tails and back wings (or add the option of having a tail to the harpy tfs that's one grip I have about the race is no bird tail)

Also speaking of harpys I'd love to see a snowy owl based harpy as I think would be cute

Also I hope oneday Evelyn gets preg content

And f9e the dragon tf for pc to have silver scale color to be added to the list of colors

And pink and silver hair dye/eye colors be added to the salon