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WolframL

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Seriously, how does someone raised in the same culture as Brint and other chill mino dudes become Hirrud, I'll never know.
Nepotism apparently, based on the scene where he tries to get past the gate guards and it ends with him saying that his father is going to hear about this after the captain has enough of his shit and punches him out.

Mind you, all the Undermountain content so far makes it clear that all is not well in Khor'minos and that there are some issues it's going to have to work out eventually. Also, the random miner encounter where they decide the Champ is going to be their cum dumpster and the only question is whether they'll pay you for it or fight you for it.

I always kinda hope we see that Cat Harem again. Like an update on how they are doing and/or maybe doing a mission or two to help them out.
I know there were plans to (optionally) have them work at Catte Temple but I don't think there's anything beyond that.
 

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While im not into the fetish this might apply to, some part of me wants there to somehow be a scene where you can rub it in his face about having kittens with the cat harem. Just fucking salt the wound more to his fucked pride.
 

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I'd rather murder his ass and be done with him threatening the cattos or G-d forbid the kittens ever again. Hirrud has no excuse of corruption, or brainwashing, or scraping by for survival, he is just an irredeemable and dangerous asshole. Edit: Tossing him into the deepest, darkest, most secure cell in Khor'minos and throwing away the key is a decent alternative, I guess.

Speaking of dangerous assholes, a choice to lop off Nakano's hand is something I'm very sad is missing from the game, because unlike killing him I feel it would have been an appropriate punishment for his actions the Champ would have been able to justify to the rest of the kitsune. Plus the edgelord doesn't need two hands to be able to pet Kinu or write bad poetry, so nothing of value would be lost.
 
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Alright I gotta ask why and what actions those were, cause if you mean the inital fight the dude was in the right, home invasion and all that. I think he feels punished enough that the guy who he fought and lost against daughter is the one hes marrying(at least to me because fuck I hate other kinu so much). That and it is doubly insulting when said father becomes Kero's divine champion lol.
 

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The Den of Foxes situation is designed to be ambiguous. They think you're invading their home, you think you're there to discuss a lost item and there's a failure of communication happening because Evergreen 'forgot' to mention that you aren't the first group she's asked to do this which explains why the middle trio of encounters isn't at all interested in talking things out and even Komari will only listen if you have the amulet on you. Miko not owning up to her role in the whole mess until Komari presses her on it doesn't help either.

Basically, there's a failure of communication all around. The takeaway from this is to reject Evil Mommydomme because she was willing to get you killed over some lost sex toys.
 

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Alright I gotta ask why and what actions those were, cause if you mean the inital fight the dude was in the right, home invasion and all that. I think he feels punished enough that the guy who he fought and lost against daughter is the one hes marrying(at least to me because fuck I hate other kinu so much). That and it is doubly insulting when said father becomes Kero's divine champion lol.

He's also extremely dickish, insulting, and is dangerously suicidal in his traditionalism and weebery. And Inari is better Kinu, Hime is worst. And if Nakano is her fiance, he's apparently allowed to be as much of an ass as he wants. I don't know about chopping off his hand, but bullying him relentlessly is required.

The Den of Foxes situation is designed to be ambiguous. They think you're invading their home, you think you're there to discuss a lost item and there's a failure of communication happening because Evergreen 'forgot' to mention that you aren't the first group she's asked to do this which explains why the middle trio of encounters isn't at all interested in talking things out and even Komari will only listen if you have the amulet on you. Miko not owning up to her role in the whole mess until Komari presses her on it doesn't help either.

Ambiguous to us, but the characters may have only had negative interactions with kitsune and they were objectively in the wrong this one specific time. I get that Kazuo wasn't malicious since his honorable height was greatly insulted and Miko and Mai probably heard the fight with Nakano which was apparently pretty bloody, but the rest just refused dialogue to save face. It's even worse on the save Kiyoko route because their actions, while unintentional, where dishonorable to their eternal GILF leader and their God of Just Being a Prank Bro. Even when letting us through, Azami just has us wander off alone so she doesn't get in trouble for not closing the door and letting the local wildlife in. In short, fuck the kitsune. Except for Kura, Hatsu, Kiyoko, and Kohaku. In their case, fuck the kitsune ifyouknowwhatI'msayingwinkwinknudgenudge.

Basically, there's a failure of communication all around. The takeaway from this is to reject Evil Mommydomme because she was willing to get you killed over some lost sex toys.

Sex toys are serious business. I'd cut a bitch if they stole my sex toys. This is the one and only thing I'll ever defend Evergreene on though.
 

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Alright I gotta ask why and what actions those were, cause if you mean the inital fight the dude was in the right, home invasion and all that.
In character for a more hardened champ who just won over Nakano would be to recognize how much of a relentless, dangerous and agressive idiot he could be and deal with him accordingly. From the perspective of the player that has seen his bad end, if no quarter is given then no quarter should be expected.

I'd have liked for the option to be there as another element of the grimmer and darker reality of the game's world underlying all the sexy adventures we get to have. Having more options like these would have smoothed out the curve between Gweyr's everything and the rest of the game, for one thing. Most champs and most players will likely not choose the more bloody option and instead will be satisfied with bullying the poor sod, especially if they become his in-laws.

To that end, I'd love to have as scene where we invite the poor bugger for some teatime chat with Komari and have him just sit there politely as his ego is getting systematically demolished through some painfully proper family banter. My Champ would even bake some cookies for the occasion so that swallowing his pride tastes a bit better.
 
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I mean it was basically the price to save your Floof wife and floof family from the orb and get them bodies, Law of equivalent exchange.
if no quarter is given then no quarter should be expected
Reminder that evergreen had been sending mercs, alot of them, and our champ especially if there trying to save the aforementioned floof wife and family, absoluetly refuses to kill those who dont really deserve it. Wouldnt make Kiyoko happy to know you fucking killed her retainers grandkid.
 

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I mean it was basically the price to save your Floof wife and floof family from the orb and get them bodies, Law of equivalent exchange.
Like with most religious commandments, their are treated as a suggestion or something to warrant a token gesture by most of the kitsune in most circumstances - and they sure don't seem to be binding for Keros on any metaphysical level.

Reminder that evergreen had been sending mercs, alot of them, and our champ especially if there trying to save the aforementioned floof wife and family, absoluetly refuses to kill those who dont really deserve it. Wouldnt make Kiyoko happy to know you fucking killed her retainers grandkid.
All those reasons, combined with the lack of in-character knowledge on the part of the victorious champ about the extent of Nakano's ruthlessness, is why I suggested the option to maim him instead. I'd have even taken Hime!Kinu eventually becoming much more distant and bitter towards the Champ over this desicion.

I get that being a mostly bloodless affair that denies the player's murder boner is part of the game's identity as one focused on the sense of adventure and sexual escapades. It also, ironically given Savin's stated position, contributes to a particular form of power fantasy on the part of the PC. They are almost never required to pick messy, uncomfortable and decidedly unsexy solutions to deal with equally messy problems. In many other games the PC has to acquire an incredible amount of power to achieve this ( or be all kinds of special and chosen), or the player has to spend a considerable amount of extra effort; sometimes both.

Still, this leads to a pretty serious tonal whiplash when those bloody messes do intrude into the Champ & Co's fun times bubble, or when the player is suddenly presented with an option to come out of it briefly in seemingly randomly picked situation. So personally, as someone who always prefers to have as much player choice options as possible within reason, I'd rather see more of such decision options applied more consistently throughout relevant points in the story.
 
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Like with most religious commandments, their are treated as a suggestion or something to warrant a token gesture by most of the kitsune in most circumstances - and they sure don't seem to be binding for Keros on any metaphysical level.
Actually, from what The Observer says here it seems like it is metaphysically binding on Keros. Because the kitsune believe that they were commanded by Original!Keros to honor equivalent exchange, New!Keros is bound by that belief to at least some degree.
 

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Actually, from what The Observer says here it seems like it is metaphysically binding on Keros. Because the kitsune believe that they were commanded by Original!Keros to honor equivalent exchange, New!Keros is bound by that belief to at least some degree.
This is a very interesting detail, as always thanks for bringing it up and providing the links. I'm still not convinced that its aspect as a Trickster God won't allow Keros to weasel his way out of any constraits the other aspects of his divinity put on him. It's always a toss-up with fictional deities of that persuasion.

As an aside, the Observer bringing up Discworld specifically makes me a tiny bit salty about the way the idea of messing with the gods exploiting those very same principles was shut down when I suggested it. :p
 

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Would've liked an option to off Nakano in the heat of battle, but I'm aware that would make dealing with all of the floof peacefully oh so much more complicated, if not perhaps impossible. I wonder if saving Kiyoko would have been at all feasible/possible if it happened.

Nakano got hammered on the head until he passed out. I'd say he's either very lucky, his helmet is very good, or he had plot armor at that time (my vote) not to die or have permanent damage from getting bashed on the head repeatedly.
 

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I mean the suicidal post battle swinging fits his character of trying his absolute fucking dandist to be reconized by anyone over-seas, a loss to "barbarians" would tarnish any chance of that if it got out, it fits the character flaw he has. Im not a fucking forum wizard like some but im pretty sure most Kitsune we interact(and fuck because god damn PC keep it in your pants) are flawed in some capacity and was said so by Tobs.
 
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Ya know, I'd personally like it if there was more Attribute Theft content, maybe a Perk or something, that let you steal or give like tiddy size or thickness from enemies you've defeated.
 

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Would've liked an option to off Nakano in the heat of battle, but I'm aware that would make dealing with all of the floof peacefully oh so much more complicated, if not perhaps impossible. I wonder if saving Kiyoko would have been at all feasible/possible if it happened.

Nakano got hammered on the head until he passed out. I'd say he's either very lucky, his helmet is very good, or he had plot armor at that time (my vote) not to die or have permanent damage from getting bashed on the head repeatedly.
Who's to say he doesn't already have brain damage?

That being said he does openly imply in the meet and greet that if Komari hadn't demanded he stay alive, to his eternal shame, he would've committed seppuku for his inability to defend his home, so.
 

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I just regret not getting an opportunity to ask him how many mercs he got to murderate before his family got an opportunity to (politely) mind-rape them, either to condemn him and moralize or to compare our K/D ratio, depending on the Champ in question. Or an oppotunity to let him know in no uncertain terms that if he ever thinks about going after the Champ again, our party will get some nice black fur scarfs for the winter.

While on the subject of black fur boyos, is there any further content planned for Hinata, the non-fuckboy black fox?
 
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I just regret not getting an opportunity to ask him how many mercs he got to murderate before his family got an opportunity to (politely) mind-rape them, either to condemn him and moralize or to compare our K/D ratio, depending on the Champ in question. Or an oppotunity to let him know in no uncertain terms that if he ever thinks about going after the Champ again, our party will get some nice black fur scarfs for the winter.

While on the subject of black fur boyos, is there any further content planned for Hinata, the non-fuckboy black fox?
The K/D ratio would be quite skewed to his side, unless we count all the Imps and hopeless demons the champ may have killed.

EDIT - Content to add: The hobgoblin encounter in the undermountain apparently has 4 males and 4 females, how about scenes for banging the females?
 
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More drider content - I just really like spider stuff. The undermountain seems the perfect place for an encounter with a friendly spider with a penchant for web-related kinks!
 

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Getting some advanced versions of items that apply elemental damage to weapons (with better scaling, an ability to use them out of combat to get a timed buff, or both) would be nice. Similarly, we are currently missing items that apply Storm and Holy damage. With the latter I'd personally get quite a giggle out of having its descriptions and name changed for silly mode, from some kind of holy water or incense type deal to "essential oils".
 
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Getting some advanced versions of items that apply elemental damage to weapons
Yeah we've been talking internally about rebalancing combat consumables. Turning Napatha et. al. into Boons that last however long has been floated as one solution.
 

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That would probably work better, as of right now they drop out of usability even at the current cap of 6, there just free electrum(and even then it isnt that much because 2x money drop ring) made my backpack much cleaner once I realized it.
 

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Even if the combat benefits aren't huge at the current cap for the turn you have to spend setting them up (unless it's a situation where you can target a specific weakness) some of the items still have uses that make them worth bringing along. Naptha and Wyvern Venom are both useful for bypassing a fight in Getting Into The Closet and Oliban Oil and Leananstones are both useful at different parts of the Abyssal Depths dungeon.

But if the system gets tweaked to allow items to last outside of a single fight (without breaking the balancing act that is the combat system) then that'll be a nice added bonus and additional reason to bring those consumables in the future.
 
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Hey, if it gets me more options during combat I'm down. Making the items more viable would be useful, especially since those can't be interrupted like stances can while still needing a turn.

If enchantment ain't on the table, I'd love to at least have Viviane lock the spiral sword into an element and not switch daily. Even if it ends up permanent or requires a significant amount of money and/or resources to change it's element afterwards or start the cycle back up. It's easily my favorite weapon but I don't like the uncontrollable switching since it could either give me an element that's great for the situation, terrible for it, or kinda meh. I'd rather throw money at the local eccentric witch to solve my problems.
 

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Nepotism apparently, based on the scene where he tries to get past the gate guards and it ends with him saying that his father is going to hear about this after the captain has enough of his shit and punches him out.
He also thinks he's entitled to everything. Man I'd love to say out loud in a bar and on the streets way a little bitch ass cowered he is, and beat him to to prove a point hell especially lose to a human or Catfolk warrior Elven to, any of those three smaller races.
 

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More gender swaps for your followers and/or spouses
Corruption for companions and spouses to make them your personal sex slaves
Species transformations for you guessed it companions and spouses
Slave system other than the catgirl Harem
Corrupt morals stuff like incest and stuff i really cant think anything else in corrupt morals that either isn't already included in the game or already on my list
A mansion for your companions and spouses that has less limited storage and a laboratory to do the body changing and corruption stuff I've already mentioned i want
Your followers worshipping you as a god mainly for the religous ones like Cait
....... Mod Support...... so we can add stuff we want that you don't wanna add yourself

I know most this is dark but it is called corruption of champions and not minorly tarnishing of champions.... sorry that sounds ruder than i mean it but it's also pretty clever so I'm leaving it in

Edit(this has been mentioned by other people but...): I almost forgot more followers/spouses of different species like dragons and harpies and lamias and the this list can go on forever also could we get some legendary creatures that we can fuck like phoenixes and hydras and shit
 

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As a preface, I'm not trying to scare you off or anything and by all means keep sharing whatever you want added, but I am gonna point out why some of your wishes just aren't gonna happen for reasons we've been told about previously.
More gender swaps for your followers and/or spouses
Uhhhh, don't hold your breath waiting on that one. It's waaaaay more work than you probably think it is since all of that content has to be written by hand and characters pretty much have to be designed around it, as was the case with Brint/Brienne. See this post by Alypia for an idea what's involved.
Species transformations for you guessed it companions and spouses
See above, plus this post from Tobs. Ain't happening, except for very limited changes that are planned in advance and which the writers can account for, like LeoCait.
Corrupt morals stuff like incest and stuff
Guess what's hard-banned due to both a lack of desire from the writers and Patreon coming down on it like a ton of bricks?
A mansion for your companions and spouses that has less limited storage
Well you're in luck there because the Wayfort will (once it's cleaned up and not a crumbling shithole) be able to serve as your Champion's personal seat. That said it's unlikely that everyone is going to up and move there, certainly not characters who have reason to be anywhere else, like post-WC Ryn or Atani who have their own responsibilities to see to.

We have however been told that the Wayfort won't have extra storage; it'll be shared with the Frost Hound one and we'll be able to get more expansions as the game progresses.
....... Mod Support...... so we can add stuff we want that you don't wanna add yourself
The devs loathe mods because of the absolute clusterfuck that was/is the CoC1 modding scene.
Edit(this has been mentioned by other people but...): I almost forgot more followers/spouses of different species
The list of companions is set in stone due to the restrictions placed on who's allowed to write them. The known two remaining to be implemented are indeed different species (Einin is a mousegirl, Agnimitra is a phoenix) but B just recently indicated that the door is rapidly closing so once that deadline is passed there won't be any more companions written.

There's much more flexibility with future potential marriage partners and Savin's just mentioned that the frostmander princess (who hasn't appeared yet and won't until they're able to write all that Tychris content) is one of them. So there's going to be more variety there than what's currently in-game. Based on some conversations with Imora I wouldn't be too surprised if we can end up 'married' to Seastone (a siorcanna) as one of her betas or as her alpha depending on how the challenge plays out., but that's just my speculation
 
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