Your gripes with CoC II

[wery12345]

People want to keep Alissa? I get trying to say it if your a corrupted champions but, holy fuck she did and planned some irredeemable shit to her own sister, lest we forget what Ryns other set is. She deserves nothing bit a swift beheading in my book, how the fuck do you make corrupting the world seem like a lesser evil. Also to keep with the name of the thread, Im mad I cant groom my floof and makes me a big sad to see what Kiyoko has to brush during the groom option.

 

[zagzig]

People want to keep Alissa? I get trying to say it if your a corrupted champions but, holy fuck she did and planned some irredeemable shit to her own sister, lest we forget what Ryns other set is. She deserves nothing bit a swift beheading in my book, how the fuck do you make corrupting the world seem like a lesser evil. Also to keep with the name of the thread, Im mad I cant groom my floof and makes me a big sad to see what Kiyoko has to brush during the groom option.

Hey, if 'hot' and 'morally defensible' were the same thing, people wouldn't be sleeping with Kasyrra. That being said, most people seem to be quite against Queen Alissa generally.

As for gripes, it would be nice if Kiyoko had a dedicated pet us option. Kiyoko's lowkey a pillow princess (not really don't yell at me).

 

[Wint3rRyd3r]

Hey, if 'hot' and 'morally defensible' were the same thing, people wouldn't be sleeping with Kasyrra. That being said, most people seem to be quite against Queen Alissa generally.

It's ironic how the big, evil, red devil isn't the most morally depraved character.

Kiyoko's lowkey a pillow princess (not really don't yell at me).

Excuse you? Kiyoko is a pillow queen thankyouverymuch.

 

[wery12345]

I mean Kas is just corrupting the world, Alissa abused put a soulbound cage on her and by the looks of was planning for more then just that. Like she seems like the one character I feel is being wrote to be "hated" unlike Kas who you can see why she does what shes doing.

 

[Tide Hunter]

I mean Kas is just corrupting the world, Alissa abused put a soulbound cage on her and by the looks of was planning for more then just that. Like she seems like the one character I feel is being wrote to be "hated" unlike Kas who you can see why she does what shes doing.

Also, I feel like there's the idea that the nature of a demon is to cause harm. Like, Kas's evildoings have logic, but also, as a demon, her bringing harm is just what she would do. Demons here seem to be driven by two things, one being sex and the other being some hyper-fixation, and so Kas's actions may simply be driven by her demonic instincts.

Alissa, however, was evil before being a demon. Most of her evil acts were done long before Kas entered into their world, and she's rotten. Her evil is not by what fate was forced on her, but by twisted desires of her own.

 

[PalletTown]

There are way to many interactions that force your character into sleep. Kiyoko post-freedom is really bad at this since most of her interactions and all of her sex scenes make you go to sleep even at 8 o clock.

 

[Burnerbro]

Can we have Alissa as a companion instead of Ryn? That sound you (maybe) just heard is Savin going insane given the sheer amount of work that's gone into Ryn, all the parser shenanigans involving her and the thought of throwing that away in favor of recruiting the Queen Bitch and how much work would be involved in supporting two four companion characters like that.

A switcheroo route ala ME 2 Samara/Morinth can work quite well with relatively little extra writing effotr. Just saying. It would be the most cruel option by far, to both sisters, but still in line with what a DK Champ who doesn't care about Ryn in the slightest might come up with. Plus they are blue ladies who are relatives and look very much like each other - and like all of them other blue elves.

Having Alissa live and stashed anywhere is somethig that can bite the Champ in the ass, but more so due to potential corruption spread and her individual prowess, not any real possibily of staging a coup against Ryn.

unlike Kas who you can see why she does what shes doing

Kas flipflops a lot: one moment she is showing (or feigning) some vulnerability, empathy and genuine affetion for the Champion that surprises even her; the next she is as much of a self-obsessed sociopath as any other Mareth demon. Not someone I'd trust with my soul. And if you at any point chose to kill any of the people she corrupted into being her pawns, killing Kas is the only proper outcome.

Alissa, however, was evil before being a demon. Most of her evil acts were done long before Kas entered into their world, and she's rotten. Her evil is not by what fate was forced on her, but by twisted desires of her own.

I wonder if we will ever get a full, no BS or games version of Kas's backstory and learn if she was a willing convert for Letice or not.

There are way to many interactions that force your character into sleep. Kiyoko post-freedom is really bad at this since most of her interactions and all of her sex scenes make you go to sleep even at 8 o clock.

Ditto. Still hoping that one day the Champ will obtain the super power of rubbing one out on the go without getting all tuckered out, lol.

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My gripe for the post: the Watchtower Golem's loss scene. It is impacrful and brief, but man is it a worse mood killer than almost everything else in the game. And it is frustrating to no end if you decide to roll with the punches, as well as incredibly depressing, because you can't even return and destroy that fucking golem and take that damn tower apart brick by brick.

 

[SmithEK]

Look I prefer dominant characters and to me Ryn is pathetic (no offence to her creator). I'd have Alissa as her dominant self, maybe on the corrupt route and Ryn could either stay in winter city or Kas can have her.
What can I say I like evil women.

 

[Savin]

A switcheroo route ala ME 2 Samara/Morinth can work quite well with relatively little extra writing effotr. Just saying.

I wonder if we will ever get a full, no BS or games version of Kas's backstory

I've just finished writing the first chunk of the Dream Palace, and Leek's coding it. You can ask here to tell you her story there, and she says it's the truth.

At some point I want to write a paralogue where you play as Mareth!Kas. Maybe after KM.

My gripe for the post: the Watchtower Golem's loss scene.

git gud

 

[Lone Wolf115]

It's ironic how the big, evil, red devil isn't the most morally depraved character.



Excuse you? Kiyoko is a pillow queen thankyouverymuch.

Well yeah, Alissa was practically glued to Kas' cock. (Before you got there.)

Yeah but she's the Champion's pillow queen.

 

[Burnerbro]

git gud

Lost that one on purpose just to see what kind of Bad End it might lead to, just was woefully unprepared for the critical hit in the feels.

Ended up sticking with the result on a separate save file, since it seemed like a story justification for having my generic warrior dude go full Punisher. No second chances taken with or pardon given to all the murderers, slavers and rapists populating the game's rogues' gallery.

I've just finished writing the first chunk of the Dream Palace, and Leek's coding it. You can ask here to tell you her story there, and she says it's the truth.

At some point I want to write a paralogue where you play as Mareth!Kas. Maybe after KM.

Neat-o for both these things, especially getting some glimpses of Mareth. They are unexpected but very welcome addition to the wait list.


The more I think about the idea of Alissa posing as Ryn, the more I focus on the Silly Mode potential for it. Like explaining to all the other companions how getting a good deal taller and curvyer is obviously normal for the boreal elves, you just need to pull them up by their ears real good and shower them with affection. Or 'Ryn' summoning an imp dressed in the shoddiest bird disguise imaginable and everyone just rolling with it, because it is still a step up from Harrick.

 

[Bast]

My biggest gripe with the game is that there aren't that many demon transformative items yet.

 

[Ruby Opal]

My biggest gripe with the game is that there aren't that many demon transformative items yet.

if I'm not mistaken, they are in the coding area, so it shouldn't take long for them to be released.

 

[KingDragonSendsHisRegards]

Alright, so two questions/gripes:

1. Why do you automatically lose when the player goes down? It makes no sense for companions to suddenly give up the moment the PC is defeated.
2. Why can't my companions use items?

 

[Wint3rRyd3r]

2. Why can't my companions use items?

Because either carrying around a bag with items would mess with their aesthetic, or the loot gremlin of a champion won't share.

Though a more serious answer/guess, it's probably originally to keep them from spamming items when set to automatic.

 

[WolframL]

1. Why do you automatically lose when the player goes down? It makes no sense for companions to suddenly give up the moment the PC is defeated.

Answered here

 

[wery12345]

1. Because fuck you RPG logic and probably because it helps balance things for the real answer.
2. There in your big backpack that is probably filled with Kobold that would bite them if they tried.

 

[PenitentLiar]

Biggest gripe? Being punished by getting gated out of content for choosing the dark path, and the lack of content for it

 

[CitrusWolf]

Biggest gripe? Being punished by getting gated out of content for choosing the dark path, and the lack of content for it

pay or write it yourself, only main writers (people with purple names or higher) are being paid to write, everyone else is writing as a passion project and if no one feels like writing dark knight pc money could be an incentive for them to do it

 

[PenitentLiar]

pay or write it yourself, only main writers (people with purple names or higher) are being paid to write, everyone else is writing as a passion project and if no one feels like writing dark knight pc money could be an incentive for them to do it

Why write it in the first place if they aren't going to continue it?

 

[CitrusWolf]

Why write it in the first place if they aren't going to continue it?

[shrugs~] maybe they felt like it at the time and haven't done so in a while, often official content had dark knight personality, you've likely been seeing things that are written by non staff or just the staff was not in the mood to write for it, ces't la vie

 

[KingDragonSendsHisRegards]

Answered here

Huh. That seems to conflict with the whole "not a power fantasy" philosophy this game is being made with and I completely disagree with the reasoning behind the decision, but hey, it's not like I can do anything about it. Didn't answer my second question though.

 

[SmithEK]

now that's a gripe in itself.. writers that start to write or even implement a character/scene/content and for some damn reason doesn't bother to finish/complete it. That is not only a gripe but bad shit esp when the gamers are charged to play the game.

 

[wery12345]

Not really, sometimes people go in thinking they would have the time to write there stuff but as life continues to show, that is just not the case sometimes and they need to bow out. From what ive seen so far theres maybe 2/3 pieces of content where the writes left and there pretty minor in the grand scheme.

 

[SmithEK]

Not really, sometimes people go in thinking they would have the time to write there stuff but as life continues to show, that is just not the case sometimes and they need to bow out. From what ive seen so far theres maybe 2/3 pieces of content where the writes left and there pretty minor in the grand scheme.

Maybe but people pay to play (yes we don't have to and yes it's not complete) and I get life gets in the way but it's still a let down. Either content doesn't get finished or asshole restrictions cockblock everything. That's my opinion anyway.

 

[PenitentLiar]

[shrugs~] maybe they felt like it at the time and haven't done so in a while, often official content had dark knight personality, you've likely been seeing things that are written by non staff or just the staff was not in the mood to write for it, ces't la vie

I doubt the traditional indie games release their content on a "per mood basis". Whatever, didn't they just release an Azzy update for the DK path where, after the hive swore loyalty to you, Azzy and the others attack you nonetheless? It just makes no sense; or that you have bimbo azzy in game for the light path, but not in the DK? It'd be better if they just removed the DK path altogether than punishing players for playing the content they made

 

[WolframL]

There's still tons of content that reflects the Champ having the Dark Knight personality or high Corruption, there just isn't much content for picking the obviously corrupt choices in certain quests (hive, centaur village, warcamp though that's less corrupt and more 'being chaotic stupid'). By way of recent examples, Ryn's sleep content makes extensive use of the [pc.dcb] parser including variations based on whether you're an asshole and Ryn is beaten down or whether you're an asshole and Ryn has some confidence in herself. There's also a victory sex option with the minotaur miners that's gated behind a minimum corruption threshold. Both of these were added in the last couple of patches.

Of the quests that don't support the 'corrupt' option heavily, Rite of Conquest itself isn't likely to change but Savin has talked about wanting to add some more content for exile!Arona in the future, we know the corrupted hive isn't something SKoW is interested in working on long-term but it did just get recognized in the new horny hornet knights and we don't really know whether there are plans for the centaur village but it's lacking in almost any post-quest content right now regardless of which way you resolved things, aside from marrying Ahmri.

PS> Bimbazzy isn't nearly as bimbofied as Azzy if you kick her into the corrupted honey.

 

[Bast]

now that's a gripe in itself.. writers that start to write or even implement a character/scene/content and for some damn reason doesn't bother to finish/complete it. That is not only a gripe but bad shit esp when the gamers are charged to play the game.

Money is charged for an early access game though. Ofc stuff isn't gonna be finished.

What you and each of us are doing is downloading little baby step patches either monthly or weekly and you seriously expect these patches to hold full story or character arcs? Also have you ever tried writing? If you do and don't feel like writing specific things or continuing on old things, then you shouldn't. The outcome is gonna be shit otherwise.

 

[Wint3rRyd3r]

warcamp though that's less corrupt and more 'being chaotic stupid

I prefer to think of it as being chaotically sick of the orcs' shit but still stupid.

 

[Alypia]

At this point, there's probably more content that locks out non-corrupt characters than content that locks out corrupt characters, for what it's worth.